Tuesday, 2014-04-01

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jussimorning all05:40
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squiddI dont believe you05:42
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squiddmaybe its not morning05:42
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jussisquidd: I suppose you also don't believe in global warming, obama being born in america etc?05:43
Siddeobama hussein, he's the dictator from iraq right?05:44
squiddtoday I dont believe anything05:45
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chriadamit's definitely afternoon05:47
chriadamabout a quarter to four.  perfect sunshine, slight breeze05:47
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Siddechriadam: sounds awful. Where did your tuesday goo?05:49
chriadamworking.  it was pretty much like this: http://diegoe.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/tumblr_lqjnz2hvse1r2owmbo1_500.gif05:52
Siddei don't want to work either. I have things to fix on my boat05:54
Siddework gets in the way of living05:54
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chriadamcue the lonely island song05:59
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stephganyone know what the deal is with tweetian and not remembering the last tweet you read was?07:18
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chem|stmorning o/08:07
ln-yes it is o/08:07
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Nicd-morning our praised Jolla lord08:33
Stskeepsah no, you mean overlord08:33
Nicd-slave master?08:34
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raa70on step from god, upwards08:36
kimmoli_sailing_he-man ?08:36
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dr_gogeta86who can help me to mangle this bug08:45
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dr_gogeta86phone app sometimes have a strange behaviour08:45
dr_gogeta86become black08:45
dr_gogeta86and you can't kill it08:46
dr_gogeta86you need to reboot whole phone08:46
dr_gogeta86neither kill lipstick works08:46
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cos-dr_gogeta86: haven't seen that one. anything strange in system logs?08:50
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dr_gogeta86how to check ?08:53
dr_gogeta86i did it with terminal directly from phone08:54
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cos-dmesg in terminal, for starters09:03
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cos-have you searched together for similar symptoms?09:03
chriadamdevel-su -c journalctl -ba09:04
chriadamand send me the log to chris dot adams at jolla dot com09:04
chriadamI have to leave for home very shortly, if you send me the logs I'll make sure they get to the right people, tomorrow.09:05
chriadamhi NoGy_.09:08
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NoGy_I'm having a strange bug with the N409:09
NoGy_Somehow I'm not able to turn the display on or have the phone log into a wifi network it knows. However it is not totally crashed since it reacts upon charger plug/unplug changes. Will try to get into it using usb09:10
NoGy_hm, ssh via usb works09:11
NoGy_but still nothing when I press the power button09:11
NoGy_Stskeeps, sledges ^^09:12
StskeepsNoGy_: yeah there's a bug there -- can you grab me output of journalctl as root?09:14
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: ping09:16
NoGy_Stskeeps: have it, will send via mail, ok?09:16
NoGy_or would you like a gist paste09:16
Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: pong09:16
StskeepsNoGy_: email is fine09:17
NoGy_Stskeeps: do you know how the power button is interfaced? through the pmic or via a gpio?09:18
Stskeepsevent interface09:19
Stskeepsbut try to do some power button presses and check journal09:19
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/commit/0abe93a3f35b466ae70ad921c242aca3f38cdc0009:20
Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: what do I need to review here ?09:20
NoGy_I did, should be in the journal I sent09:21
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: Background/ListItem09:21
NoGy_nothing in the log09:21
coderusStskeeps: no power button events in lournal09:22
coderusonly display on/off logs09:22
Stskeepscoderus: well, you'll see mce being spammy09:22
Stskeepsand that's what i'd like to see09:22
coderusStskeeps: i see no mce logs here after pressing power button09:23
coderusi only see:09:23
coderusApr 01 15:22:47 localhost lipstick[970]: unsleepDisplay09:23
coderusApr 01 15:22:47 localhost statefs[831]: Display: "on"09:23
Stskeepsthat's good enough too09:23
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StskeepsNoGy_: hmmm09:23
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Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: does it works or not09:24
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm not sure about it09:24
Sfiet_Konstantinlooks good though09:24
NoGy_Stskeeps: looks like the subsystem needed to interface the powerbutton is cut off09:25
StskeepsNoGy_: ps aux | grep mce09:26
NoGy_root      5263  0.0  0.1  14824  2824 ?        Ssl  Mar31   0:15 /usr/sbin/mce --systemd09:26
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: working :)09:26
artemmawhat was the way to uninstall package from phone completely so that old icon is not kept in some cache? I can't update icons. Even after reboot app keeps showing the old one09:27
StskeepsNoGy_: hmm wonder if it's stuck09:27
Stskeepsstrace -fFp 5263  ?09:27
NoGy_Stskeeps: ok events get there09:28
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Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: feel free to merge then :)09:29
Sfiet_Konstantinthanks for it :)09:29
artemmaah, sorry, I was replacing an icon in the wrong place it seems09:29
NoGy_Stskeeps: https://gist.github.com/nogy/29d51f7bbfd3b1b00e3609:29
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Stskeepsspiiroin: how was it we enable mce debugging again?09:30
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NoGy_Stskeeps: Hm, is the mce_display_on wakelock intended to be held right now?09:35
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sledgesStskeeps: `killall -USR1 mce`09:36
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sledgesNoGy_: anything more now with `journalctl -f` ?09:42
sledgeswhen pwr button pressed09:43
NoGy_sledges: no reaction09:43
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: its already commited09:44
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: and i didnt understand what you mean by "dont use separators everywhere" or something like this09:44
sledgesNoGy_: could you tell what might have triggered it?09:44
NoGy_however I updated the gist above09:44
NoGy_sledges: no, I read email, browsed a bit and have a xmpp and a google account registered09:45
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NoGy_nothing extraodinary09:45
sledgesand nothing to do with April fools either? ;)09:45
NoGy_The device was left unplugged and suspended throughout the night. this morning I noticed it. It seems to be a stable state09:46
sledges(just kidding :)09:46
NoGy_no seriously not. Bugs are too evil to be turned into a joke09:46
sledgeswas it usable this morning?09:47
sledgesor already in 'koma'?09:47
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Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: maybe I will do a PR at some point09:47
NoGy_already in koma09:47
Sfiet_Konstantin(not now: I'm working on doing some hacks)09:47
StskeepsNoGy_: go edit mce.service and add -vvvvvv to the parameters09:47
Stskeepsand reboot, make it happen again09:47
NoGy_will try. killing mce by the way resolved the issue just now09:50
NoGy_screen went on instantly09:51
NoGy_ok, rebooted and mce is now -vvvvvv09:57
NoGy_btw.: Charger-Port detection for 1.5Amp USB Hubs works09:58
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spiiroinNoGy_: the "mce_display_on" is released via timeout -> stays listed in stats whether it is actually locked or not10:18
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spiiroinStskeeps, NoGy_ : just one -v might be enough. adding more easily makes mce so noisy that journald just ignores it10:25
Stskeepsok :P10:25
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NoGyspiiroin: Ah ok, thanks10:26
spiiroinbasically all external events get logged with "mce -v", if more details are needed, it probably is better to use the '-l' option, say "mce -v -l powerkey.c:*"10:27
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Beankyllasorry bout that ^10:41
Stskeepsmoo khertan10:42
jussipfft, intel10:42
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stephgoh dear11:07
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jussistephg: freenode+ ?11:08
stephgI've gone all of today so far without seeing one joke11:08
stephgand that was it11:08
jussiyou didnt see the one in here earlier?11:09
khertanHello Stskeeps11:09
jussistephg: [11:38:14] <kimmoli_sailing_> http://www.ifixit.com/apple_press_release11:09
stephgoh I hadn't read that yet :)11:10
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Nicd-the best IRC april fools was quakenet's, where they had achievements and a raiding game11:10
Nicd-they still have the achievements running because they became so popular :P11:11
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Stskeepskhertan: how is it going?11:12
Nicd-every now and then on some channel you can see <Q> Nicd- has unlocked the achievement: Q Power User! :D11:12
Nicd-or something like it11:12
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khertanStskeeps, half face asleep, after seeing dentist, else nice :)11:19
khertanStskeeps, and you not too much reports ? and complain ? :)11:19
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Stskeepskhertan: well, there's always complaints, some unreasonable and some reasonable ones11:24
Stskeepspeople are pretty happy with the sailfish on nexus 4 thing, it seems11:24
Stskeepskhertan: hope they manage to get your device in a better shape11:25
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khertanStskeeps, yep ... i ll see what they can fix11:29
khertanStskeeps, sailfish is pretty good, of course there are still things to do11:31
khertanStskeeps, but as u know, i m disapointed by the phone.11:32
Stskeepskhertan: yeah :/ i hope you know that i'm not happy about that people are having shutdowns and reboots11:32
Stskeepsit's like my baby not performing well in school :)11:32
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Stskeepsso a lot of effort goes into getting those problems fixed11:33
khertanStskeeps, of course ... and i didn't blame people :) I know you re doing your best ...11:33
khertanStskeeps, the main problem is the marketting ...11:33
Stskeeps:nod: i'm not the best to either defend or recommend our marketing, as i'm just a software engineer at heart11:34
khertanStskeeps, i can clearly understand that s frustrating when some have problem, critics your baby when you put a lot of efforts in it ...11:34
khertanStskeeps, and as an employee you should probably not comment about it :)11:35
Stskeepsyeah, probably ;)11:35
pp_it's annoying when it's soooo close to being perfect11:35
Stskeepsbut anyway: i actually got my own phone to do the shutdown/reboots over the weekend and right after MWC11:35
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Stskeepsso i'm happy from a debugging point of v iew11:36
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Stskeepswhat i'm more shocked about is if i start looking at other phones in the market and what kind of problems they have..11:37
Stskeepsnexus 4 has shut down issues too; samsung galaxy s3/4 just looses all data once in a while, etc..11:37
Stskeepsi thought things were honestly better on the other side11:37
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dr_gogeta86for me just fix mi vibrator11:39
dr_gogeta86and phone app ....11:39
dr_gogeta86no problem at all11:39
pp_I've seen phone X has broken data == assumption: phone X is broken, reality: nat table overflow on operator side11:39
khertanStskeeps, yeah i didn't like what s available on market today, i come back to that good old n9 :)11:39
Stskeepskhertan: n9 certainly has it's quality things11:39
Stskeepsthat's what a 4-5 year product programme does to quality ;)11:39
khertanStskeeps, and as a developper, i ll probably never bought a Android Phone ... you know ... a Java VM ... :)11:41
Stskeepsnokia x is on the market, i've considered getting one to sailfish it..11:41
jussiStskeeps: I actually had similar thoughts... Nokia HW + Sailfish :D11:42
Nicd-I've thought about Nokia X or XL too11:42
Stskeepsi don't fully understand the point of a XL with a 800x480 display though11:43
khertanand i don't understand the point of a Nokia with a so small camera resolution ;)11:43
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Nicd-oh, I meant X+ actually instead of XL11:45
Nicd-their names are confusing11:45
jake9xx_artemma: ping11:49
artemmajake9xx_: pong11:49
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pp_it has to have worse specs than entry-level lumia :-)11:49
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Nicd-but they seem enough for Sailfish11:50
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jake9xx_artemma: I've used your github projects as test platform for upcoming sdk :) I'm asking now is it just a bug or did you leave Qt5Test out on purpose from BuildRequires in f.ex helloworld-pro's yaml?11:51
artemmajake9xx_: you have to have it out if you want project to pass the harbour criteria I believe :)11:52
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artemmacool to know SDK is going to be improved BTW!11:53
* artemma hopes for semi-automatic bundling of needed binaries to a project. I learned it already, but would save time for many people11:53
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artemmajake9xx_: so it is only tests subpackage that depends on Qt5Tests as, well, it's only tests that do need Qt5test :)11:54
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jcookemanHi there everyone. I am going to ask a question hopefully several other people have. And, that is, I would love to install SailfishOS on by BB Q10. It would be lovely if this was possible and, even better, if there were instructions somewhere.11:54
Stskeepsjcookeman: no, sorry - you can't boot linux or android on it11:55
Stskeepskhertan: if that was a Nokia X i might really consider it.11:55
jcookemanStskeeps: darn11:55
jcookemanI love the form factor and the physical keyboard. Why is it not bootable?11:55
jake9xx_artemma: it's "soon" now :)11:55
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vans01jcookeman, I believe cause it have kinda different system with no open drivers....11:56
Nicd-jake9xx_: we <3 you for new sdk11:56
jake9xx_artemma: yes, kinda like that. blind building failed until I put the Qt5Test in to BR section11:56
jcookemanvans01: darn11:56
vans01jcookeman, btw, bb10 is quite cool, isn't it?11:56
jcookemanvans01: I love the Q1011:57
vans01jcookeman, and not the system? :D11:57
jcookemanlove the form factor11:57
jcookemanthe OS is good too, but BB needs to pull their head out of the bum11:57
vans01jcookeman, oh I see...11:57
artemmajake9xx_: hmm, I build HWPro quite regularly and it is enough to have Qt5QuickTest in PkgConfigBR in a subpackage only.. though now my SDK definitely has it already. Yet I think even fresh users get everything built fine11:58
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jcookemanvans01: it would be great if BB would open the hardware and drivers if that is the case11:58
jcookemanQNX is some wicked stuff, but they are falling behind the power curve and can learn a few things by us geeks11:58
jcookemandoes anyone have any suggestions on a Q10 like phone for sailfish?11:59
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vans01jcookeman, yep, bb10 is based on qnx (great system btw, imho), but bb has spent money buying qnx and I guess they want some return of investments.... :)12:00
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jcookemanOf course they do. But, they didn't have iphone and Android to compete with at that time12:01
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jcookemanthey blew a few 0s and now wtf!12:01
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vans01jcookeman, they have to work hard, and to sell hard to be still in trend and to be in the market....12:02
vans01jcookeman, btw12:02
vans01jcookeman, bb10 have nice gestures, I like it. Sailfish have gestures - I like it too.12:03
jcookemanI love Android and BB10. I've had both for years. Got the Q10 last May or so.12:03
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vans01jcookeman, bb10 have qt-based sdk, sailfish have qt sdk... That's awesome. ^_^12:03
jcookemanI do like BB10, but the usability compared to Android is not there. Of course, Google isn't helping them.12:04
jcookemanvans01: There's Qt for BB10?12:04
vans01jcookeman, they call it cascades.12:04
jcookemanHmm I did not know that12:04
jcookemanI use PyQt for RAD, but I would never claim to be a proficient or competent UI dev12:05
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vans01jcookeman, well... Seems you have to have a "partner"12:06
vans01competent UI dev partner ^_^12:06
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jcookemanSince everything is going mobile maybe I will put more time and effort in that. I may not have enough time and may need to find a partner.12:10
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jake9xx_artemma: Qt5QuickTest is one story, Qt5Test is another12:56
jake9xx_for some reason in the latest sysroot Qt5QuickTest does not pull Qt5Test-devel in automatically12:56
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Almindoris it possible to record calls on sailfish?13:02
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artemmajake9xx_: then I don't know what you are asking about. HW Pro declares only Qt5QuickTest as dependency13:04
Nicd-Almindor: if you do find out how, please make an app for it :)13:05
AlmindorNicd-, that's why I'm asking :D13:06
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Almindorit's usually a question of closed-sourcedness in the RIL-level13:06
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AlmindorI have no idea how sailfish handles telephony13:06
Almindorhow do you make the release build strip the binaries?13:08
w00tAlmindor: afaiui/r (i'm not a telephony person) we use ofono, with ofono-ril talking to rild13:08
Almindordo I need to add a step or is it some option?13:08
Almindorw00t: that's good then, might be a way to get voice multiplexed then13:09
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vans01Stskeeps, hi.13:14
vans01sledges, ping?13:19
Almindorso nobody knows how to make the IDE strip the resulting binaries?13:19
lbtvans01: ask if you have a question :)13:20
vans01yep, I've got one)13:21
lbtAlmindor: afaik the SDK will strip binaries if you do a 'Release' rpm13:21
Almindorlbt: it didn't13:21
lbtit also prepares a debuginfo package13:21
vans01yesterday, Stskeeps, told to add some params to /var/lib/environment/ofono/noplugin.conf and I've said I have no such file. So he has told me to create it. ok, I've created it. What's the syntax to add param -d?13:22
Almindorlbt: the release rpm is same as the dev one (mostly) and the binary in the release build folder is non-stripped13:22
lbtAlmindor: and the one in the rpm ?13:22
lbtcheck the installroot/ area13:22
Almindornot stripped 1.2mb13:23
lbtvans01: OFONO_ARGS= ...13:23
vans01lbt, so Would OFONO_ARGS="-d" be ok?13:23
AlmindorI think it needs QMAKE_STRIP or somesuch, the Makefile in that folder has "QMAKE_STRIP=" (empty value)13:24
lbtvans01: I'd suggest :          OFONO_ARGS=-d13:24
vans01lbt, ok...13:24
lbtAlmindor: the strip is usually done as part of the rpmbuild13:24
lbtthat allows the rpm to prepare debuginfo files even for release code13:24
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Almindormakes sense, but the .spec doesn't seem to do much more than qmake install13:26
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lbtAlmindor: ok .. so the installroot is done inside the mersdk vm13:27
lbtlook in /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin/13:27
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lbtthat's because it needs to make install to a linux fs, which is tricky on a windows host :)13:27
Almindoryep, not stripped13:30
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Almindorlet me do a full clean/release RPM13:30
Almindorbtw. what's the diff. between "deploy as RPM" and "deploy as building an RPM"?13:31
Nicd-the other one deploys to device/emulator, the other one just generates RPM files and puts them into the build dir13:31
lbtAlmindor: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin/harbour-dice: ELF 32-bit LSB  shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=59d8f88d020a981baa1eb3806c1c7df95265f744, stripped13:33
lbti9305 should be rebuilding13:36
lbtwrong channel :)13:36
Almindorlbt: Lighthouse: ELF 32-bit LSB  shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=ce8d13e41a04b0bf860fa4289f5becda165bf36a, not stripped13:36
fzklbt: i didnt miss that ;-)13:36
Nicd-it's stored forever now13:36
fk_lxlbt: so how's the i9305 port going? :-P13:37
Almindorlbt: and from SDK after deleting it, doing a clean and deploying release/rpm: Lighthouse: ELF 32-bit LSB  shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=ce8d13e41a04b0bf860fa4289f5becda165bf36a, not stripped13:37
fk_lxlbt: nah, I know that page, thought you will tell sth new/more ;-)13:38
lbtfk_lx: that's our live working page, for real13:39
lbtAlmindor: I think the SDK runs in a quiet mode13:40
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Almindorlbt: yeah it doesn't mention that much on the RPM parts13:40
lbtit's been a while since I looked at it and I don't recall exactly where/when stripping happens13:41
lbtit definitely strips all the time for me - I have to jump through hoops to make debug work :)13:42
lbtin gdb I do :   set debug-file-directory /opt/sdk/harbour-dice/usr/lib/debug:/usr/lib/debug   FWIW13:42
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lbtare you using the standard template?13:43
Almindorgot it13:44
dr_gogeta86guys but no one with mtk chipset ?13:44
Almindorit was old SDK generated a .spec13:45
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Almindorit had duplicate file paths in it too (manual as opposed to using %templates%)13:45
AlmindorI deleted the .spec and it worked fine now13:45
AlmindorI think I made this project before I updated the SDK13:45
lbtAlmindor: ok, good to know :)13:47
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Almindorlbt: btw. why id the .spec listing files 2x?13:52
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Almindorlbt: I'm getting these warnings (even now): warning: File listed twice: /usr/share/Lighthouse/qml/pages/CPU.qml13:52
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lbtAlmindor: 2x files is a bug in the developers13:54
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Almindorlbt: I hope I don't have a bug in me :D13:55
lbtessentially QtC doesn't understand the rpm macro expansion (not unreasonably)13:55
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kaltsithat is fixed in the next installer13:57
Almindorwhat determines the RPM name?13:58
AlmindorI'd like to be lowercase (for harbour), but it seems to follow my project name which is capital L13:58
lbtTARGET afaik13:58
lbtbut ensure the yaml Name: field is correct13:59
kaltsiit's the name you have created your project with.. otherwise it's what is the Name: field in the yaml file13:59
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Almindorah I see13:59
lbtkaltsi: and TARGET has to match to make a binary for harbour rules ?13:59
Almindorif I change TARGET I need to change all the icon filenames etc.13:59
kaltsilbt: the binary name doesn't have to have harbour- afaik.. hmm14:00
Almindorso you can't have "application.rpm" install something with icon/name Application?14:00
lbtyeah, think it does... not 100% sure... FAQ?14:00
Almindorno harbour is not required14:01
Almindorit greenlighter "lighthouse...." for me14:01
lbtcheck the faq :)14:01
kaltsihmm strange.. faq says no :)14:01
lbt??  <HARBOUR_APP_NAME>  ,,,   the executable binary: /usr/bin/<HARBOUR_APP_NAME>14:01
Almindorbut that makes it somewhat branchey for releases in other stores14:02
kaltsiyeah sorry, I forgot about that.. so ignore my name comment and trust the FAQ14:02
lbtAlmindor: kaltsi integrated the checker script into the SDK - use it :)14:03
lbtand yes, it's a bit of a pain wrt naming like that14:03
Almindoryeah thanks, I will14:04
Almindormaybe you guys should have an "export" build or somesuch14:04
AlmindorHarbour target  :)14:04
Almindorit could even include a form to upload right away, that'd be cool14:04
Almindor(lazy ass programmers :D)14:05
kaltsimaybe some day :)14:05
kaltsiwe've talked about it yes, so it's "in the backlog"14:05
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lbtAlmindor: the SDK and scripts are is OSS14:07
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Almindorlbt: damnit :D14:08
Almindorlbt: now I have to shut up about these requests or do them myself huh? :)14:08
lbtOSS - best tech support tool ever ... "you have the src, fix it yourself"14:09
Almindoruse the source luke14:09
pp_fork and send a pull request!14:09
lbtbasically, yes14:09
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flotronHi, i accidentally remove the calendar app from my N4. How can i restore it?14:09
lbtflotron: how?14:10
lbtand : pkcon search name calendar14:10
Stskeepswell, by uninstalling it14:10
lbtpkcon install ....14:10
Stskeepsand no, it's not that easy14:10
flotronin main screen i long press and X14:10
Stskeepswe preinstalled store apps14:10
lbtah yes, it's a store app14:10
flotronno RPM for that?14:11
Stskeepsnot offhand no14:12
lbtflotron: the good news is that you know how to flash already :)14:12
locusfsomeone should enable cache and redownload calendar14:13
Stskeepsflotron: i'll note that as a problem, sorry about that issue14:14
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narchieany idea why the windows version can't find any kits/doesn¨'t automatically have the "start VM" button14:16
narchietalking about the ide of course14:17
kaltsinarchie: close qtcreator and remove the directory C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha314:17
kaltsinarchie: then start qtcreator again.. try and see if that helps14:17
kaltsinarchie: did it ever work for you or is this your first install?14:18
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narchieactually it did work before - I just deleted and updated the sdk14:20
narchienow they're gone14:20
narchietried deleting SailfishAlpha3 - didnt work14:20
kaltsihmm strange14:21
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kaltsiwhich windows do you have?14:22
kaltsihave you updated it recently from 8.0 -> 8.1?14:23
narchiesome time before, this is a fresh 8.1 setup14:23
kaltsiwhen the sdk worked for you, was it win 8.1 too?14:23
kaltsiwhere did you install it this time.. do you happen to have space character in install path or username?14:24
kaltsispace or some non-ascii?14:24
narchiealright now I find a kit, did some updates to the SDK via the web frontend14:25
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narchienope, all default14:25
narchieinstall folder is SailfishOS14:25
kaltsiin c:\ ?14:25
kaltsiok.. the updates should not really affect the kits though14:25
narchienow I can see them14:25
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narchieuh oh14:28
narchie"bash: /opt/sdk/app is a directory"14:28
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narchieeverything's working14:29
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narchiety ;)14:30
n1ckyhey all, i just wanted to pop in and say that I appreciate all the work you guys are doing to bring an open source OS to the world14:30
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flotronwinscp is awesome with sailfish compared with n9. No flaws14:30
lbtn1cky: you missed the news?  ... it's going closed source :(14:30
n1ckyYOU BASTARD. april fools. fucker.14:31
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lbt*g* ... my first14:31
flotronyeah, an nokia is going to launch an android phone14:31
flotronoh wait..14:32
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leinirflotron: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nokia-3310-given-41-megapixel-camera-upgrade-on-april-fools-day-50294414:32
n1ckyi'd buy it14:32
carepackor become an android phone.... http://forum.nitdroid.com/14:33
leinirpeople would buy the shite out of that one ;)14:33
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n1ckycan someone explain to me why if sailfish shares the kernel that cyanogenmod uses for mako, why things like bluetooth, mtp, camera, etc. don't work yet?14:34
Stskeepsn1cky: the bits from android HAL that aren't wired up to our OS14:34
n1ckyokay, cool14:35
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n1ckyare you guys going to be able to write a general solution then, where once sailfish knows how to piggy-back off of android's standard HAL, if the device has a working cyanogenmod base, you will have it working?14:36
dr_gogeta86Sfiet_Konstantin: nice hack14:36
dr_gogeta86its seams nova launcer ...:-D14:36
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Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: actually not only that14:37
Stskeepsn1cky: we are already piggybagging off quite a lot14:37
Sfiet_Konstantinthe launcher thing is something, but basically, you can do everything14:37
Stskeepsn1cky: its' a joy to get sailfishos running these days atm, but, it's a matter of grease work14:37
dr_gogeta86Stskeeps: tell me a device to destroy14:37
dr_gogeta86i've just burned an huawei14:38
dr_gogeta86next one pls14:38
n1ckyStskeeps: awesome. I appreciate the work you all are doing, godspeed!14:38
n1ckyI hope to be running sailfish full time before long.14:38
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flotronSailfish adaptations aim to use the full production quality? or just for developers?14:49
Stskeepsflotron: i think daily usage is a valid goal14:50
flotronThe only thing that i need for a daily usage is Exchange service, is there in the plans?14:51
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Stskeepsflotron: hehe, now that's a tough topic as it's a pay per device thing :)14:52
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: did you dig out anything interesting from l-j-h qrc?14:54
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Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: well, the QML source14:58
Sfiet_KonstantinI patched lipstick-qt5 to be able to load those QML files from disk14:58
Sfiet_Konstantinso basically, opened to patch14:59
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Almindorif an app is running in the background (active cover), and the phone screen turns off, is the app paused?15:06
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AlmindorI mean things like rendering of the cover15:11
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lbtyour app is always running - it's up to you to play nice15:18
lbtcheck out my 3D dice app in the store ... the 'run when minimised' shows that quite well :)15:18
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Almindoryeah well mine is a sysmonitor, I'll add the option to "not monitor when screen is off"15:22
Almindorit doesn't have graphs yet, but it will and then it makes sense to keep collecting (+ analytics later)15:23
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Almindorlbt: um.. how do you get notified of a screen off/on btw? I know about the state-change to background but I didn't see anything about screen shutdown events15:24
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StskeepsAlmindor: wayland protocol probably15:25
Stskeepsie standard window events15:25
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dr_gogeta86did you know ?16:10
dr_gogeta86all fin lakes16:10
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narchieany tips whether my VM config is borked or what's wrong - I'm trying to access HTTP with XMLHttpRequest but it returns absolutely nothing16:57
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coderusSearchField losing focus for everyone?16:59
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coderushm, moved out of ListView header and it not losing focus17:01
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coderusPlease vote: https://together.jolla.com/question/37278/searchfield-losing-focus-when-placed-in-silicalistview-header/17:09
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chem|stofono is gone again...17:15
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coderusany fast jsobject listmodel sorting sample, maybe?17:21
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.2-9 released17:48
Hartzicoderus: hopefully not april fools' :)17:49
Hartzichangelog :'D17:50
Morpog_PCyep :D17:50
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coderusbest of the beast update17:56
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Morpog_PCcoderus, in about page openrepos image doesn't show up anymore which seems to cause the openDesc label to being aligned at parent top18:09
Morpog_PCand yeah, I know I should add an issue on github :D18:09
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coderusMorpog_PC: its new feature18:18
Morpog_PCyeah, more bugs :D18:18
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Drone__Could anyone help me mount the sailfish partition on android?18:21
Drone__Nexus 4 to be exact18:21
coderusMorpog_PC: chmod 664 /usr/share/harbour-mitakuuluu/images/*18:21
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coderusfirst comments about brcking device after installing v0.2-9 of Mitakuuluu appearing on TMO18:25
Stskeepswhat does it do that would cause that?18:26
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coderusStskeeps: included new exploits making malware executions in kernel threads and erasing boot sectors18:27
coderusVote please: https://together.jolla.com/question/37278/searchfield-losing-focus-when-placed-in-silicalistview-header/18:28
narchieany help with http requests in QML_?18:28
coderusnarchie: what problem?18:28
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narchieI'm using XMLHttpRequest but can't get anything out18:28
narchieno response18:28
narchieinvalid states18:28
Morpog_PCcoderus, permission change fixed it18:29
coderusMorpog_PC: yeah. no idea what changed permissions in package18:29
coderusnarchie: tried diffferent server?18:29
coderusnarchie: paste your code then (pastebin)18:30
narchiecoderus: all urls give nothing18:30
narchieok sec18:30
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coderusnarchie: ooh...18:39
coderusnarchie: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-xmlhttprequest-get-qml.html18:39
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narchiecoderus: thanks!18:41
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flotroni restored the calendar with pkcon install jolla-calendar20:32
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sledgesflotron: good job!21:25
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