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| jussi | morning all | 05:40 |
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| squidd | I dont believe you | 05:42 |
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| squidd | maybe its not morning | 05:42 |
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| jussi | squidd: I suppose you also don't believe in global warming, obama being born in america etc? | 05:43 |
| jussi | :P | 05:43 |
| Sidde | obama hussein, he's the dictator from iraq right? | 05:44 |
| squidd | today I dont believe anything | 05:45 |
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| chriadam | it's definitely afternoon | 05:47 |
| chriadam | about a quarter to four. perfect sunshine, slight breeze | 05:47 |
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| Sidde | chriadam: sounds awful. Where did your tuesday goo? | 05:49 |
| chriadam | working. it was pretty much like this: http://diegoe.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/tumblr_lqjnz2hvse1r2owmbo1_500.gif | 05:52 |
| Sidde | i don't want to work either. I have things to fix on my boat | 05:54 |
| Sidde | work gets in the way of living | 05:54 |
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| chriadam | cue the lonely island song | 05:59 |
| chriadam | :-P | 05:59 |
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| stephg | anyone know what the deal is with tweetian and not remembering the last tweet you read was? | 07:18 |
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| carepack | morning | 07:23 |
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| coderus | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-38003 | 07:41 |
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| chem|st | morning o/ | 08:07 |
| ln- | yes it is o/ | 08:07 |
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| Stskeeps | morning | 08:32 |
| Nicd- | morning our praised Jolla lord | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | ah no, you mean overlord | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 08:33 |
| Nicd- | slave master? | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | close | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:34 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | sailord | 08:36 |
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| raa70 | on step from god, upwards | 08:36 |
| raa70 | *one | 08:36 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | he-man ? | 08:36 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | http://www.ifixit.com/apple_press_release | 08:38 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | g'day | 08:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | who can help me to mangle this bug | 08:45 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | phone app sometimes have a strange behaviour | 08:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | become black | 08:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and you can't kill it | 08:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you need to reboot whole phone | 08:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | neither kill lipstick works | 08:46 |
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| cos- | dr_gogeta86: haven't seen that one. anything strange in system logs? | 08:50 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | how to check ? | 08:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i did it with terminal directly from phone | 08:54 |
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| cos- | dmesg in terminal, for starters | 09:03 |
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| cos- | have you searched together for similar symptoms? | 09:03 |
| chriadam | devel-su -c journalctl -ba | 09:04 |
| chriadam | and send me the log to chris dot adams at jolla dot com | 09:04 |
| chriadam | I have to leave for home very shortly, if you send me the logs I'll make sure they get to the right people, tomorrow. | 09:05 |
| NoGy_ | morning | 09:08 |
| chriadam | hi NoGy_. | 09:08 |
| * chriadam heads home | 09:08 | |
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| NoGy_ | I'm having a strange bug with the N4 | 09:09 |
| NoGy_ | Somehow I'm not able to turn the display on or have the phone log into a wifi network it knows. However it is not totally crashed since it reacts upon charger plug/unplug changes. Will try to get into it using usb | 09:10 |
| NoGy_ | hm, ssh via usb works | 09:11 |
| NoGy_ | but still nothing when I press the power button | 09:11 |
| NoGy_ | Stskeeps, sledges ^^ | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy_: yeah there's a bug there -- can you grab me output of journalctl as root? | 09:14 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: ping | 09:16 |
| NoGy_ | Stskeeps: have it, will send via mail, ok? | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:16 |
| NoGy_ | or would you like a gist paste | 09:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: pong | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy_: email is fine | 09:17 |
| NoGy_ | Stskeeps: do you know how the power button is interfaced? through the pmic or via a gpio? | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | event interface | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | but try to do some power button presses and check journal | 09:19 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/commit/0abe93a3f35b466ae70ad921c242aca3f38cdc00 | 09:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: what do I need to review here ? | 09:20 |
| NoGy_ | I did, should be in the journal I sent | 09:21 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: Background/ListItem | 09:21 |
| NoGy_ | nothing in the log | 09:21 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: no power button events in lournal | 09:22 |
| coderus | only display on/off logs | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: well, you'll see mce being spammy | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | and that's what i'd like to see | 09:22 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: i see no mce logs here after pressing power button | 09:23 |
| coderus | i only see: | 09:23 |
| coderus | Apr 01 15:22:47 localhost lipstick[970]: unsleepDisplay | 09:23 |
| coderus | Apr 01 15:22:47 localhost statefs[831]: Display: "on" | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | that's good enough too | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | NoGy_: hmmm | 09:23 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: does it works or not | 09:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm not sure about it | 09:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | looks good though | 09:24 |
| NoGy_ | Stskeeps: looks like the subsystem needed to interface the powerbutton is cut off | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy_: ps aux | grep mce | 09:26 |
| NoGy_ | root 5263 0.0 0.1 14824 2824 ? Ssl Mar31 0:15 /usr/sbin/mce --systemd | 09:26 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: working :) | 09:26 |
| artemma | what was the way to uninstall package from phone completely so that old icon is not kept in some cache? I can't update icons. Even after reboot app keeps showing the old one | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy_: hmm wonder if it's stuck | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | strace -fFp 5263 ? | 09:27 |
| NoGy_ | Stskeeps: ok events get there | 09:28 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: feel free to merge then :) | 09:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks for it :) | 09:29 |
| artemma | ah, sorry, I was replacing an icon in the wrong place it seems | 09:29 |
| NoGy_ | Stskeeps: https://gist.github.com/nogy/29d51f7bbfd3b1b00e36 | 09:29 |
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| Stskeeps | spiiroin: how was it we enable mce debugging again? | 09:30 |
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| NoGy_ | Stskeeps: Hm, is the mce_display_on wakelock intended to be held right now? | 09:35 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps: `killall -USR1 mce` | 09:36 |
| NoGy_ | done | 09:36 |
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| sledges | NoGy_: anything more now with `journalctl -f` ? | 09:42 |
| sledges | when pwr button pressed | 09:43 |
| NoGy_ | sledges: no reaction | 09:43 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: its already commited | 09:44 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: and i didnt understand what you mean by "dont use separators everywhere" or something like this | 09:44 |
| sledges | NoGy_: could you tell what might have triggered it? | 09:44 |
| NoGy_ | however I updated the gist above | 09:44 |
| NoGy_ | sledges: no, I read email, browsed a bit and have a xmpp and a google account registered | 09:45 |
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| NoGy_ | nothing extraodinary | 09:45 |
| sledges | and nothing to do with April fools either? ;) | 09:45 |
| NoGy_ | The device was left unplugged and suspended throughout the night. this morning I noticed it. It seems to be a stable state | 09:46 |
| sledges | (just kidding :) | 09:46 |
| NoGy_ | no seriously not. Bugs are too evil to be turned into a joke | 09:46 |
| sledges | ;) | 09:46 |
| sledges | so | 09:46 |
| sledges | was it usable this morning? | 09:47 |
| sledges | or already in 'koma'? | 09:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: maybe I will do a PR at some point | 09:47 |
| NoGy_ | already in koma | 09:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (not now: I'm working on doing some hacks) | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy_: go edit mce.service and add -vvvvvv to the parameters | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | and reboot, make it happen again | 09:47 |
| NoGy_ | will try. killing mce by the way resolved the issue just now | 09:50 |
| NoGy_ | screen went on instantly | 09:51 |
| NoGy_ | ok, rebooted and mce is now -vvvvvv | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:58 |
| NoGy_ | btw.: Charger-Port detection for 1.5Amp USB Hubs works | 09:58 |
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| spiiroin | NoGy_: the "mce_display_on" is released via timeout -> stays listed in stats whether it is actually locked or not | 10:18 |
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| spiiroin | Stskeeps, NoGy_ : just one -v might be enough. adding more easily makes mce so noisy that journald just ignores it | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok :P | 10:25 |
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| NoGy | spiiroin: Ah ok, thanks | 10:26 |
| spiiroin | basically all external events get logged with "mce -v", if more details are needed, it probably is better to use the '-l' option, say "mce -v -l powerkey.c:*" | 10:27 |
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| Beankylla | amd | 10:38 |
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| Beankylla | sorry bout that ^ | 10:41 |
| Nicd- | nvidia | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | moo khertan | 10:42 |
| jussi | pfft, intel | 10:42 |
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| stephg | oh dear | 11:07 |
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| jussi | stephg: freenode+ ? | 11:08 |
| jussi | :P | 11:08 |
| stephg | yeah | 11:08 |
| stephg | I've gone all of today so far without seeing one joke | 11:08 |
| stephg | and that was it | 11:08 |
| jussi | you didnt see the one in here earlier? | 11:09 |
| khertan | Hello Stskeeps | 11:09 |
| jussi | stephg: [11:38:14] <kimmoli_sailing_> http://www.ifixit.com/apple_press_release | 11:09 |
| stephg | oh I hadn't read that yet :) | 11:10 |
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| jussi | hah! | 11:10 |
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| Nicd- | the best IRC april fools was quakenet's, where they had achievements and a raiding game | 11:10 |
| Nicd- | they still have the achievements running because they became so popular :P | 11:11 |
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| jussi | hah | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: how is it going? | 11:12 |
| Nicd- | every now and then on some channel you can see <Q> Nicd- has unlocked the achievement: Q Power User! :D | 11:12 |
| Nicd- | or something like it | 11:12 |
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| khertan | Stskeeps, half face asleep, after seeing dentist, else nice :) | 11:19 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, and you not too much reports ? and complain ? :) | 11:19 |
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| Stskeeps | khertan: well, there's always complaints, some unreasonable and some reasonable ones | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | people are pretty happy with the sailfish on nexus 4 thing, it seems | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: hope they manage to get your device in a better shape | 11:25 |
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| khertan | Stskeeps, yep ... i ll see what they can fix | 11:29 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, sailfish is pretty good, of course there are still things to do | 11:31 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, but as u know, i m disapointed by the phone. | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: yeah :/ i hope you know that i'm not happy about that people are having shutdowns and reboots | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | it's like my baby not performing well in school :) | 11:32 |
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| Stskeeps | so a lot of effort goes into getting those problems fixed | 11:33 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, of course ... and i didn't blame people :) I know you re doing your best ... | 11:33 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, the main problem is the marketting ... | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: i'm not the best to either defend or recommend our marketing, as i'm just a software engineer at heart | 11:34 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, i can clearly understand that s frustrating when some have problem, critics your baby when you put a lot of efforts in it ... | 11:34 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, and as an employee you should probably not comment about it :) | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, probably ;) | 11:35 |
| pp_ | it's annoying when it's soooo close to being perfect | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway: i actually got my own phone to do the shutdown/reboots over the weekend and right after MWC | 11:35 |
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| Stskeeps | so i'm happy from a debugging point of v iew | 11:36 |
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| Stskeeps | what i'm more shocked about is if i start looking at other phones in the market and what kind of problems they have.. | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | nexus 4 has shut down issues too; samsung galaxy s3/4 just looses all data once in a while, etc.. | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | i thought things were honestly better on the other side | 11:37 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | for me just fix mi vibrator | 11:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and phone app .... | 11:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | no problem at all | 11:39 |
| pp_ | I've seen phone X has broken data == assumption: phone X is broken, reality: nat table overflow on operator side | 11:39 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, yeah i didn't like what s available on market today, i come back to that good old n9 :) | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: n9 certainly has it's quality things | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | that's what a 4-5 year product programme does to quality ;) | 11:39 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, and as a developper, i ll probably never bought a Android Phone ... you know ... a Java VM ... :) | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | nokia x is on the market, i've considered getting one to sailfish it.. | 11:41 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: I actually had similar thoughts... Nokia HW + Sailfish :D | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | I've thought about Nokia X or XL too | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | i don't fully understand the point of a XL with a 800x480 display though | 11:43 |
| khertan | and i don't understand the point of a Nokia with a so small camera resolution ;) | 11:43 |
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| Nicd- | oh, I meant X+ actually instead of XL | 11:45 |
| Nicd- | their names are confusing | 11:45 |
| jake9xx_ | artemma: ping | 11:49 |
| artemma | jake9xx_: pong | 11:49 |
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| pp_ | it has to have worse specs than entry-level lumia :-) | 11:49 |
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| Nicd- | but they seem enough for Sailfish | 11:50 |
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| jake9xx_ | artemma: I've used your github projects as test platform for upcoming sdk :) I'm asking now is it just a bug or did you leave Qt5Test out on purpose from BuildRequires in f.ex helloworld-pro's yaml? | 11:51 |
| artemma | jake9xx_: you have to have it out if you want project to pass the harbour criteria I believe :) | 11:52 |
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| artemma | cool to know SDK is going to be improved BTW! | 11:53 |
| * artemma hopes for semi-automatic bundling of needed binaries to a project. I learned it already, but would save time for many people | 11:53 | |
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| artemma | jake9xx_: so it is only tests subpackage that depends on Qt5Tests as, well, it's only tests that do need Qt5test :) | 11:54 |
| khertan | http://conversations.nokia.com/2014/04/01/nokia-3310-gets-41-megapixel-windows-phone-makeover/ | 11:54 |
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| jcookeman | Hi there everyone. I am going to ask a question hopefully several other people have. And, that is, I would love to install SailfishOS on by BB Q10. It would be lovely if this was possible and, even better, if there were instructions somewhere. | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | jcookeman: no, sorry - you can't boot linux or android on it | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: if that was a Nokia X i might really consider it. | 11:55 |
| jcookeman | Stskeeps: darn | 11:55 |
| jcookeman | I love the form factor and the physical keyboard. Why is it not bootable? | 11:55 |
| jake9xx_ | artemma: it's "soon" now :) | 11:55 |
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| vans01 | jcookeman, I believe cause it have kinda different system with no open drivers.... | 11:56 |
| Nicd- | jake9xx_: we <3 you for new sdk | 11:56 |
| jake9xx_ | artemma: yes, kinda like that. blind building failed until I put the Qt5Test in to BR section | 11:56 |
| jcookeman | vans01: darn | 11:56 |
| vans01 | jcookeman, btw, bb10 is quite cool, isn't it? | 11:56 |
| jcookeman | vans01: I love the Q10 | 11:57 |
| vans01 | jcookeman, and not the system? :D | 11:57 |
| jcookeman | love the form factor | 11:57 |
| jcookeman | the OS is good too, but BB needs to pull their head out of the bum | 11:57 |
| vans01 | jcookeman, oh I see... | 11:57 |
| artemma | jake9xx_: hmm, I build HWPro quite regularly and it is enough to have Qt5QuickTest in PkgConfigBR in a subpackage only.. though now my SDK definitely has it already. Yet I think even fresh users get everything built fine | 11:58 |
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| jcookeman | vans01: it would be great if BB would open the hardware and drivers if that is the case | 11:58 |
| jcookeman | QNX is some wicked stuff, but they are falling behind the power curve and can learn a few things by us geeks | 11:58 |
| jcookeman | does anyone have any suggestions on a Q10 like phone for sailfish? | 11:59 |
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| vans01 | jcookeman, yep, bb10 is based on qnx (great system btw, imho), but bb has spent money buying qnx and I guess they want some return of investments.... :) | 12:00 |
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| jcookeman | Of course they do. But, they didn't have iphone and Android to compete with at that time | 12:01 |
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| jcookeman | they blew a few 0s and now wtf! | 12:01 |
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| vans01 | jcookeman, they have to work hard, and to sell hard to be still in trend and to be in the market.... | 12:02 |
| vans01 | jcookeman, btw | 12:02 |
| vans01 | jcookeman, bb10 have nice gestures, I like it. Sailfish have gestures - I like it too. | 12:03 |
| jcookeman | I love Android and BB10. I've had both for years. Got the Q10 last May or so. | 12:03 |
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| vans01 | jcookeman, bb10 have qt-based sdk, sailfish have qt sdk... That's awesome. ^_^ | 12:03 |
| jcookeman | I do like BB10, but the usability compared to Android is not there. Of course, Google isn't helping them. | 12:04 |
| jcookeman | vans01: There's Qt for BB10? | 12:04 |
| vans01 | jcookeman, they call it cascades. | 12:04 |
| jcookeman | Hmm I did not know that | 12:04 |
| jcookeman | I use PyQt for RAD, but I would never claim to be a proficient or competent UI dev | 12:05 |
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| vans01 | jcookeman, well... Seems you have to have a "partner" | 12:06 |
| vans01 | competent UI dev partner ^_^ | 12:06 |
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| jcookeman | Since everything is going mobile maybe I will put more time and effort in that. I may not have enough time and may need to find a partner. | 12:10 |
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| jake9xx_ | artemma: Qt5QuickTest is one story, Qt5Test is another | 12:56 |
| jake9xx_ | for some reason in the latest sysroot Qt5QuickTest does not pull Qt5Test-devel in automatically | 12:56 |
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| Almindor | is it possible to record calls on sailfish? | 13:02 |
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| artemma | jake9xx_: then I don't know what you are asking about. HW Pro declares only Qt5QuickTest as dependency | 13:04 |
| Nicd- | Almindor: if you do find out how, please make an app for it :) | 13:05 |
| Almindor | Nicd-, that's why I'm asking :D | 13:06 |
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| Almindor | it's usually a question of closed-sourcedness in the RIL-level | 13:06 |
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| Almindor | I have no idea how sailfish handles telephony | 13:06 |
| Almindor | how do you make the release build strip the binaries? | 13:08 |
| w00t | Almindor: afaiui/r (i'm not a telephony person) we use ofono, with ofono-ril talking to rild | 13:08 |
| Almindor | do I need to add a step or is it some option? | 13:08 |
| Almindor | w00t: that's good then, might be a way to get voice multiplexed then | 13:09 |
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| vans01 | Stskeeps, hi. | 13:14 |
| vans01 | sledges, ping? | 13:19 |
| Almindor | so nobody knows how to make the IDE strip the resulting binaries? | 13:19 |
| lbt | vans01: ask if you have a question :) | 13:20 |
| vans01 | yep, I've got one) | 13:21 |
| lbt | Almindor: afaik the SDK will strip binaries if you do a 'Release' rpm | 13:21 |
| Almindor | lbt: it didn't | 13:21 |
| lbt | it also prepares a debuginfo package | 13:21 |
| vans01 | yesterday, Stskeeps, told to add some params to /var/lib/environment/ofono/noplugin.conf and I've said I have no such file. So he has told me to create it. ok, I've created it. What's the syntax to add param -d? | 13:22 |
| Almindor | lbt: the release rpm is same as the dev one (mostly) and the binary in the release build folder is non-stripped | 13:22 |
| lbt | Almindor: and the one in the rpm ? | 13:22 |
| Almindor | sec. | 13:22 |
| lbt | check the installroot/ area | 13:22 |
| Almindor | not stripped 1.2mb | 13:23 |
| lbt | vans01: OFONO_ARGS= ... | 13:23 |
| vans01 | lbt, so Would OFONO_ARGS="-d" be ok? | 13:23 |
| Almindor | I think it needs QMAKE_STRIP or somesuch, the Makefile in that folder has "QMAKE_STRIP=" (empty value) | 13:24 |
| lbt | vans01: I'd suggest : OFONO_ARGS=-d | 13:24 |
| vans01 | lbt, ok... | 13:24 |
| lbt | Almindor: the strip is usually done as part of the rpmbuild | 13:24 |
| Almindor | hm | 13:24 |
| lbt | that allows the rpm to prepare debuginfo files even for release code | 13:24 |
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| Almindor | makes sense, but the .spec doesn't seem to do much more than qmake install | 13:26 |
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| lbt | Almindor: ok .. so the installroot is done inside the mersdk vm | 13:27 |
| lbt | look in /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin/ | 13:27 |
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| lbt | that's because it needs to make install to a linux fs, which is tricky on a windows host :) | 13:27 |
| Almindor | yep, not stripped | 13:30 |
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| Almindor | let me do a full clean/release RPM | 13:30 |
| Almindor | btw. what's the diff. between "deploy as RPM" and "deploy as building an RPM"? | 13:31 |
| Nicd- | the other one deploys to device/emulator, the other one just generates RPM files and puts them into the build dir | 13:31 |
| Almindor | ah | 13:31 |
| lbt | Almindor: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin/harbour-dice: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=59d8f88d020a981baa1eb3806c1c7df95265f744, stripped | 13:33 |
| lbt | i9305 should be rebuilding | 13:36 |
| lbt | wrong channel :) | 13:36 |
| Almindor | lbt: Lighthouse: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=ce8d13e41a04b0bf860fa4289f5becda165bf36a, not stripped | 13:36 |
| fzk | lbt: i didnt miss that ;-) | 13:36 |
| Nicd- | it's stored forever now | 13:36 |
| lbt | *g* | 13:37 |
| fk_lx | lbt: so how's the i9305 port going? :-P | 13:37 |
| Almindor | lbt: and from SDK after deleting it, doing a clean and deploying release/rpm: Lighthouse: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=ce8d13e41a04b0bf860fa4289f5becda165bf36a, not stripped | 13:37 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 13:38 |
| fk_lx | lbt: nah, I know that page, thought you will tell sth new/more ;-) | 13:38 |
| lbt | fk_lx: that's our live working page, for real | 13:39 |
| lbt | Almindor: I think the SDK runs in a quiet mode | 13:40 |
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| Almindor | lbt: yeah it doesn't mention that much on the RPM parts | 13:40 |
| lbt | it's been a while since I looked at it and I don't recall exactly where/when stripping happens | 13:41 |
| lbt | it definitely strips all the time for me - I have to jump through hoops to make debug work :) | 13:42 |
| lbt | in gdb I do : set debug-file-directory /opt/sdk/harbour-dice/usr/lib/debug:/usr/lib/debug FWIW | 13:42 |
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| lbt | are you using the standard template? | 13:43 |
| Almindor | got it | 13:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | guys but no one with mtk chipset ? | 13:44 |
| Almindor | it was old SDK generated a .spec | 13:45 |
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| Almindor | it had duplicate file paths in it too (manual as opposed to using %templates%) | 13:45 |
| Almindor | I deleted the .spec and it worked fine now | 13:45 |
| Almindor | 32k | 13:45 |
| Almindor | I think I made this project before I updated the SDK | 13:45 |
| lbt | Almindor: ok, good to know :) | 13:47 |
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| Almindor | lbt: btw. why id the .spec listing files 2x? | 13:52 |
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| Almindor | lbt: I'm getting these warnings (even now): warning: File listed twice: /usr/share/Lighthouse/qml/pages/CPU.qml | 13:52 |
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| lbt | Almindor: 2x files is a bug in the developers | 13:54 |
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| Almindor | lbt: I hope I don't have a bug in me :D | 13:55 |
| lbt | essentially QtC doesn't understand the rpm macro expansion (not unreasonably) | 13:55 |
| Almindor | ah | 13:55 |
| lbt | *g* | 13:55 |
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| kaltsi | that is fixed in the next installer | 13:57 |
| Almindor | what determines the RPM name? | 13:58 |
| Almindor | I'd like to be lowercase (for harbour), but it seems to follow my project name which is capital L | 13:58 |
| lbt | TARGET afaik | 13:58 |
| lbt | but ensure the yaml Name: field is correct | 13:59 |
| kaltsi | it's the name you have created your project with.. otherwise it's what is the Name: field in the yaml file | 13:59 |
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| Almindor | ah I see | 13:59 |
| lbt | kaltsi: and TARGET has to match to make a binary for harbour rules ? | 13:59 |
| Almindor | if I change TARGET I need to change all the icon filenames etc. | 13:59 |
| kaltsi | yes | 14:00 |
| kaltsi | lbt: the binary name doesn't have to have harbour- afaik.. hmm | 14:00 |
| Almindor | so you can't have "application.rpm" install something with icon/name Application? | 14:00 |
| lbt | yeah, think it does... not 100% sure... FAQ? | 14:00 |
| lbt | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 14:01 |
| Almindor | no harbour is not required | 14:01 |
| Almindor | it greenlighter "lighthouse...." for me | 14:01 |
| Almindor | *greenlighted | 14:01 |
| lbt | check the faq :) | 14:01 |
| kaltsi | hmm strange.. faq says no :) | 14:01 |
| lbt | ?? <HARBOUR_APP_NAME> ,,, the executable binary: /usr/bin/<HARBOUR_APP_NAME> | 14:01 |
| Almindor | oh | 14:02 |
| Almindor | but that makes it somewhat branchey for releases in other stores | 14:02 |
| kaltsi | yeah sorry, I forgot about that.. so ignore my name comment and trust the FAQ | 14:02 |
| lbt | Almindor: kaltsi integrated the checker script into the SDK - use it :) | 14:03 |
| lbt | and yes, it's a bit of a pain wrt naming like that | 14:03 |
| Almindor | yeah thanks, I will | 14:04 |
| Almindor | maybe you guys should have an "export" build or somesuch | 14:04 |
| Almindor | Harbour target :) | 14:04 |
| Almindor | it could even include a form to upload right away, that'd be cool | 14:04 |
| Almindor | (lazy ass programmers :D) | 14:05 |
| kaltsi | maybe some day :) | 14:05 |
| kaltsi | we've talked about it yes, so it's "in the backlog" | 14:05 |
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| lbt | Almindor: the SDK and scripts are is OSS | 14:07 |
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| Almindor | lbt: damnit :D | 14:08 |
| Almindor | lbt: now I have to shut up about these requests or do them myself huh? :) | 14:08 |
| lbt | basically | 14:08 |
| lbt | OSS - best tech support tool ever ... "you have the src, fix it yourself" | 14:09 |
| Almindor | use the source luke | 14:09 |
| pp_ | fork and send a pull request! | 14:09 |
| lbt | basically, yes | 14:09 |
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| flotron | Hi, i accidentally remove the calendar app from my N4. How can i restore it? | 14:09 |
| lbt | flotron: how? | 14:10 |
| lbt | and : pkcon search name calendar | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | well, by uninstalling it | 14:10 |
| lbt | pkcon install .... | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | and no, it's not that easy | 14:10 |
| flotron | in main screen i long press and X | 14:10 |
| lbt | oh | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | we preinstalled store apps | 14:10 |
| lbt | ah yes, it's a store app | 14:10 |
| flotron | no RPM for that? | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | not offhand no | 14:12 |
| lbt | flotron: the good news is that you know how to flash already :) | 14:12 |
| Almindor | lol | 14:12 |
| flotron | :P | 14:13 |
| locusf | someone should enable cache and redownload calendar | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: i'll note that as a problem, sorry about that issue | 14:14 |
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| narchie | any idea why the windows version can't find any kits/doesn¨'t automatically have the "start VM" button | 14:16 |
| narchie | talking about the ide of course | 14:17 |
| kaltsi | narchie: close qtcreator and remove the directory C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3 | 14:17 |
| kaltsi | narchie: then start qtcreator again.. try and see if that helps | 14:17 |
| kaltsi | narchie: did it ever work for you or is this your first install? | 14:18 |
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| narchie | actually it did work before - I just deleted and updated the sdk | 14:20 |
| narchie | now they're gone | 14:20 |
| narchie | tried deleting SailfishAlpha3 - didnt work | 14:20 |
| kaltsi | hmm strange | 14:21 |
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| kaltsi | which windows do you have? | 14:22 |
| narchie | 8.1 | 14:22 |
| kaltsi | eek | 14:22 |
| kaltsi | have you updated it recently from 8.0 -> 8.1? | 14:23 |
| narchie | some time before, this is a fresh 8.1 setup | 14:23 |
| kaltsi | when the sdk worked for you, was it win 8.1 too? | 14:23 |
| narchie | yes | 14:23 |
| kaltsi | where did you install it this time.. do you happen to have space character in install path or username? | 14:24 |
| kaltsi | space or some non-ascii? | 14:24 |
| narchie | alright now I find a kit, did some updates to the SDK via the web frontend | 14:25 |
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| narchie | nope, all default | 14:25 |
| narchie | install folder is SailfishOS | 14:25 |
| kaltsi | in c:\ ? | 14:25 |
| narchie | yes | 14:25 |
| narchie | oh | 14:25 |
| kaltsi | ok.. the updates should not really affect the kits though | 14:25 |
| narchie | now I can see them | 14:25 |
| kaltsi | funny | 14:25 |
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| narchie | uh oh | 14:28 |
| narchie | "bash: /opt/sdk/app is a directory" | 14:28 |
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| narchie | alright | 14:29 |
| narchie | everything's working | 14:29 |
| narchie | nice | 14:30 |
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| narchie | ty ;) | 14:30 |
| n1cky | hey all, i just wanted to pop in and say that I appreciate all the work you guys are doing to bring an open source OS to the world | 14:30 |
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| flotron | winscp is awesome with sailfish compared with n9. No flaws | 14:30 |
| lbt | n1cky: you missed the news? ... it's going closed source :( | 14:30 |
| n1cky | ...oh | 14:31 |
| lbt | :D | 14:31 |
| n1cky | YOU BASTARD. april fools. fucker. | 14:31 |
| n1cky | :S | 14:31 |
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| lbt | *g* ... my first | 14:31 |
| n1cky | :D | 14:31 |
| flotron | yeah, an nokia is going to launch an android phone | 14:31 |
| flotron | oh wait.. | 14:32 |
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| leinir | flotron: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nokia-3310-given-41-megapixel-camera-upgrade-on-april-fools-day-502944 | 14:32 |
| n1cky | i'd buy it | 14:32 |
| carepack | or become an android phone.... http://forum.nitdroid.com/ | 14:33 |
| leinir | people would buy the shite out of that one ;) | 14:33 |
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| n1cky | can someone explain to me why if sailfish shares the kernel that cyanogenmod uses for mako, why things like bluetooth, mtp, camera, etc. don't work yet? | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | n1cky: the bits from android HAL that aren't wired up to our OS | 14:34 |
| n1cky | okay, cool | 14:35 |
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| n1cky | are you guys going to be able to write a general solution then, where once sailfish knows how to piggy-back off of android's standard HAL, if the device has a working cyanogenmod base, you will have it working? | 14:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Sfiet_Konstantin: nice hack | 14:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | its seams nova launcer ...:-D | 14:36 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | dr_gogeta86: actually not only that | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | n1cky: we are already piggybagging off quite a lot | 14:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the launcher thing is something, but basically, you can do everything | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | n1cky: its' a joy to get sailfishos running these days atm, but, it's a matter of grease work | 14:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps: tell me a device to destroy | 14:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've just burned an huawei | 14:38 |
| dr_gogeta86 | next one pls | 14:38 |
| n1cky | Stskeeps: awesome. I appreciate the work you all are doing, godspeed! | 14:38 |
| n1cky | :D | 14:38 |
| n1cky | I hope to be running sailfish full time before long. | 14:38 |
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| flotron | Sailfish adaptations aim to use the full production quality? or just for developers? | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: i think daily usage is a valid goal | 14:50 |
| flotron | The only thing that i need for a daily usage is Exchange service, is there in the plans? | 14:51 |
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| Stskeeps | flotron: hehe, now that's a tough topic as it's a pay per device thing :) | 14:52 |
| flotron | oops | 14:52 |
| locusf | Sfiet_Konstantin: did you dig out anything interesting from l-j-h qrc? | 14:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: well, the QML source | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I patched lipstick-qt5 to be able to load those QML files from disk | 14:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so basically, opened to patch | 14:59 |
| locusf | nice | 15:00 |
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| Almindor | if an app is running in the background (active cover), and the phone screen turns off, is the app paused? | 15:06 |
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| Almindor | I mean things like rendering of the cover | 15:11 |
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| lbt | your app is always running - it's up to you to play nice | 15:18 |
| lbt | check out my 3D dice app in the store ... the 'run when minimised' shows that quite well :) | 15:18 |
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| Almindor | yeah well mine is a sysmonitor, I'll add the option to "not monitor when screen is off" | 15:22 |
| Almindor | it doesn't have graphs yet, but it will and then it makes sense to keep collecting (+ analytics later) | 15:23 |
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| Almindor | lbt: um.. how do you get notified of a screen off/on btw? I know about the state-change to background but I didn't see anything about screen shutdown events | 15:24 |
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| Stskeeps | Almindor: wayland protocol probably | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | ie standard window events | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | (afaik) | 15:25 |
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| leszek | hi | 15:39 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | did you know ? | 16:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.jarviwiki.fi/wiki/ | 16:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | all fin lakes | 16:10 |
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| Elleo | /36=/1 | 16:13 |
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| narchie | any tips whether my VM config is borked or what's wrong - I'm trying to access HTTP with XMLHttpRequest but it returns absolutely nothing | 16:57 |
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| coderus | SearchField losing focus for everyone? | 16:59 |
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| coderus | hm, moved out of ListView header and it not losing focus | 17:01 |
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| coderus | Please vote: https://together.jolla.com/question/37278/searchfield-losing-focus-when-placed-in-silicalistview-header/ | 17:09 |
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| chem|st | ofono is gone again... | 17:15 |
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| coderus | any fast jsobject listmodel sorting sample, maybe? | 17:21 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.2-9 released | 17:48 |
| Hartzi | coderus: hopefully not april fools' :) | 17:49 |
| Hartzi | changelog :'D | 17:50 |
| Morpog_PC | yep :D | 17:50 |
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| coderus | best of the beast update | 17:56 |
| kimmoli_sailing | +9 | 18:01 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, in about page openrepos image doesn't show up anymore which seems to cause the openDesc label to being aligned at parent top | 18:09 |
| Morpog_PC | and yeah, I know I should add an issue on github :D | 18:09 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: its new feature | 18:18 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, more bugs :D | 18:18 |
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| Drone__ | Could anyone help me mount the sailfish partition on android? | 18:21 |
| Drone__ | Nexus 4 to be exact | 18:21 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: chmod 664 /usr/share/harbour-mitakuuluu/images/* | 18:21 |
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| coderus | first comments about brcking device after installing v0.2-9 of Mitakuuluu appearing on TMO | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | what does it do that would cause that? | 18:26 |
| Morpog_PC | lol | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:26 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: included new exploits making malware executions in kernel threads and erasing boot sectors | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | okiedokie | 18:27 |
| coderus | Vote please: https://together.jolla.com/question/37278/searchfield-losing-focus-when-placed-in-silicalistview-header/ | 18:28 |
| narchie | any help with http requests in QML_? | 18:28 |
| coderus | narchie: what problem? | 18:28 |
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| narchie | I'm using XMLHttpRequest but can't get anything out | 18:28 |
| narchie | no response | 18:28 |
| narchie | invalid states | 18:28 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus, permission change fixed it | 18:29 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: yeah. no idea what changed permissions in package | 18:29 |
| coderus | narchie: tried diffferent server? | 18:29 |
| coderus | narchie: paste your code then (pastebin) | 18:30 |
| narchie | coderus: all urls give nothing | 18:30 |
| narchie | ok sec | 18:30 |
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| narchie | coderus:http://pastebin.com/R03QJKXh | 18:36 |
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| coderus | narchie: ooh... | 18:39 |
| coderus | narchie: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-xmlhttprequest-get-qml.html | 18:39 |
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| narchie | coderus: thanks! | 18:41 |
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| chem|st | http://pastebin.com/KhUSfC1K | 18:42 |
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| stephg | ning! | 20:14 |
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| sledges | flotron: good job! | 21:25 |
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