Friday, 2014-04-11

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william_gen_be quited always,sad02:34
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coderuskimmoli: ping08:17
coderusStskeeps: thanks, already updating right now :)08:18
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coderuskimmoli: do you fixed keyboard toh input?08:18
kimmoliit should be fixed (not me)08:18
coderus? gone? :)08:19
stephganother nice picture :)08:20
stephgfor next month btw, are there any lakes that begin with 'Q'?08:20
sharpneliNot in Finland.08:20
pp"Ku.*(lampi|järvi)" probably exists08:21
coderuskimmoli: just got an idea to make input proxy in maliit keyboard. send keyboard events to proxy, not emulate keypress, and do proper acctions on maliit keyboard side08:22
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william_genStskeeps: new update published?08:26
Stskeepswilliam_gen: yes, rolling out atm08:26
Stskeepshoping nexus 4 update soon, too08:26
william_genmy net speed is pool to go to jolla.com08:26
Stskeepswilliam_gen: are you in hong kong or china, by the way?08:27
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william_genStskeeps: plan porting new update to nexus4?08:31
kimmolicoderus: hmm. Now i use uinput, as i didn't want to to touch maliit itself.08:31
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stephgwow reading the bug list on tjc08:33
stephgso many that we (well I) weren't aware of08:33
william_genStskeeps: the next EA of sailfish for nexus4 can voice call?08:34
Stskeepswilliam_gen: yes08:34
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coderuskimmoli: you can make qmlplugin and use it in your keyboard directly08:34
william_genStskeeps: and more function?08:35
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kimmolicoderus: i tried to look for that, but ended up in to a very rocky road...08:35
william_genStskeeps: or which bugs will be solved?08:36
kimmoliand decided to do it with "my way"08:36
chem|stanyone up for some ofono hickup?08:38
chem|stI just hit update in events and the device went red LED, reproducable first time it was vcardconverter[25441]: [W] QtVersit::QVCard30Writer::encodeVersitProperty:107 - Variant value is a QStringList but the property's value type is neither CompoundType or ListType08:39
chem|stQtVersit::QVCard30Writer::encodeVersitProperty:107 - Variant value is a QStringList but the property's value type is neither CompoundType or ListType08:39
chem|stthe second time was08:39
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chem|stdbus[543]: [system] Rejected send message, 5 matched rules; type="method_return", sender=":1.11" (uid=0 pid=822 comm="/usr/sbin/ofonod -n --noplugin=dun_gw,hfp,hfp_ag ") interface="(un08:39
william_genmore function and which bugs solved to  the next EA of sailfish for nexus408:41
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coderuskimmoli: no problem if it fixed now :)08:46
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coderusinstalled update08:47
coderusafter reboot it said "should reinstall android apps la-la-la"08:47
coderusnow i see progress indicator on andoid icons08:48
coderusybut probably nothing happening08:48
chem|stas this is the easter update... any eastereggs?08:48
coderusah no, journalctl says apks are updating08:49
ppcoderus: takes several minutes08:49
coderusjust no indication per apps08:49
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Jonnicoderus: yes it can take a while to reinstall all the apks in the background.... took 30 mins for me (but I have a lot of apps installed)08:54
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chem|stdo we finally have eduroam support? my device isn't connecting to EAP network with manual settings08:58
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coderusfor me its about 15 minutes :)09:13
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chem|st[WLAN EDUROAM] were does it pull the settings from? I just deleted all settings from the folders but they get pulled in from somewhere else09:22
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coderusMorpog: ping09:52
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dr_gogeta86hi guys09:58
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stephgthink android is a fair bit better Stskeeps10:43
stephgyou'd asked earlier10:43
stephgseems smoother, faster10:43
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roboroleszek: hi... did you upgrade yet?11:06
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leszekroboro: yeah upgraded11:08
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roborommm I found all the video streams for my TVHeadFish seem to have stopped working11:09
leszekeverything seems a little bit faster and I did not had a wayland crash or reboot yet11:09
roboroI am getting audio... but no video11:09
roboroso I guess gstreamer update11:09
leszekroboro: My test on some videos with my videoPlayer worked fine11:10
roborommmm need to do some debugging... if I work out what's going on... I'll let you know... since I lifted some of your code for my player11:11
leszekyoutube video streams are also working fine. Tested webm video and its working fine aswell as h264(mp4)11:11
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roboroyeah... tried your player on youtube... was looking good11:12
roborolet me find out what is coming through from my tvheadend server and then let you know11:12
leszekroboro: ok you are right. rtsp streams seem not to work anymore11:15
leszekat least I also get only audio on some11:16
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roboroleszek: weird video codec is mpeg-2 and I'm getting a 'No decoder available for type' message...12:26
roboroI checked what I have installed... and gst-plugins-bad is there12:26
roboroapparently the mpeg2 codec stuff is in that12:26
roboroor its meant to be12:26
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tbrroboro: use gst-inspect to verify that12:30
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roborommm the ffmpeg decoder is meant to be available12:31
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roborompegtsdemux is also there :(12:34
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roborothat said... running gst-launch from the command line gives me: Missing element: MPEG-2 Video decoder12:40
dr_gogeta86hi Sfiet_Konstantin12:41
dr_gogeta86upgrade or not12:41
Sfiet_Konstantinhello dr_gogeta8612:41
dr_gogeta86meanwhile i can't become root anymore :-(12:42
roboroSfiet_Konstantin: hi...12:42
Sfiet_Konstantinhello everybody12:42
roboroSfiet_Konstantin: I was thinking that you might want to incorporate this into your patches:
roborosee the last answer there12:43
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Sfiet_Konstantinroboro: feel free to package it as a patch12:45
Sfiet_Konstantinyou don't need me ;)12:45
* roboro looks at the patchmanager pages to see how to do this12:47
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Morpogcoderus pong12:57
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Sfiet_Konstantinroboro: you can look at source13:15
Sfiet_Konstantincheck pandora-box source for instance, it's my collection of patches13:15
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dr_gogeta86Sfiet_Konstantin: may i query u ?13:20
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: about ?13:21
coderusMorpog: can you make mitakuuluu icon as map marker?13:21
Morpoglike icon-m-location?13:22
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: what do you want ? :D13:23
dr_gogeta86Sfiet_Konstantin: you find a way to extend toggles ?13:23
dr_gogeta86ala unrestricted ui ?13:23
Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: I'm thinking of it, but first, I would love to fix annoying bugs like why the hell is this volume slider not showing up :D13:23
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Sfiet_Konstantindr_gogeta86: technically though, you can already start in writing switches13:25
dr_gogeta86from today i want honegap for sailfish ui13:25
dr_gogeta86*from today i want phonegap for sailfish ui13:25
Sfiet_Konstantinsince I use jolla settings framework for the control center, if you write a jolla settings switch, it will appear automatically13:25
Sfiet_Konstantin(maybe a reboot needed but it should work easily)*13:25
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Morpogcoderus, here you go: made it in same size as icon-m-location13:41
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Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog: so cute and awesome <313:47
Morpogoh thx Sfiet_Konstantin13:51
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Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog: looks really good ;)13:52
coderusMorpog: need outline:,61.36392&zoom=14&size=480x300&markers=55.16546,61.36392,mitakuuluu&maptype=mapnik13:54
coderusMorpog: and sorry, didnt noticed you before13:55
coderusbottom-left corner is active in marker13:55
Morpogdo you have some opacity in there?13:55
Morpogoh, so should i rotate it?13:56
Morpogbut then it just looks like normal mitakuuluu icon13:56
coderusMorpog: probably, but dont rotate pnone icon13:56
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coderusMorpog: nvm, just moved active point ot middle of width13:58
coderusbut image should be edited13:58
Morpogok, so I add an outline13:58
coderusit should be visible anyway :)13:58
Morpogsure you have no opacity involved there?13:59
Morpoginside is 100% visible and plain white13:59
coderusno opacity13:59
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Morpogcoderus, two more variations, icon-location-mitakuuluu2 is with wihite outline, icon-location-mitakuuluu3 is without outline but inverted:
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dr_gogeta86Morpog: but something like this ?
Morpogwell, dr_gogeta86 I just made what coderus wanted ;)14:16
lbtPSA OBS has latest SailfishOS and  sailfishos:latest is now
dr_gogeta86lbt: i'm scared to upgrade14:18
dr_gogeta86i read some bad tweets right now14:18
Morpogwent totally fine for me14:18
lbtdr_gogeta86: which ?14:19
coderusmaybe colored outline or more dark?14:20
Morpoglet me check how it looks in officiam maps application14:20
dr_gogeta86lbt: wrong ui14:21
dr_gogeta86ui glitches14:21
Morpogcoderus, the seem to color it with highlight color14:21
lbtdr_gogeta86: links - not seen/heard of any issues myself14:22
dr_gogeta86twitter search jolla14:22
dr_gogeta86#Jolla update 5 have new ugly thing in UI: dark efect on top of lockscreen - broke many Ambiences. For example Terminal UI Ambience. :\14:22
dr_gogeta86#Jolla update 5 return back ugly things in UI: dropout fonts, fat pulley line, dots ... maybe work for patchmanager. :)14:23
lbthehe ... it doesn't take long for people to not want change does it :)14:23
dr_gogeta86people want's harmattan14:24
dr_gogeta86is clear14:24
Morpoghmm, looks same for me as in update 414:24
lbtMorpog: the UI changes are not exactly flashing pink neon ... a few pixels here and there.14:25
Morpogsounded like when reading that tweets, lol14:25
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coderusMorpog: i cant dynamically highlught, its for my static map you see by link14:30
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Morpogaah, ok, thought that was inside mitakuuluu :D14:31
coderusdrawing marker over map image?14:34
coderuswill try14:34
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matrixxHi o/14:47
matrixxanyone who can debug problems on sdk in win8?14:47
matrixxI have a problem when running qmake and I'm getting an error: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.gDtxOS: line 34: : command not found14:48
matrixxdidn't come with some earlier sdk version14:48
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tbrhmmm can you pastebin a bit more?14:48
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crndmatrixx, did you remove the old sdk before installing the new one?14:57
Morpogcoderus, made some variations:
matrixxcrnd: I didn't have any version before in this machine14:57
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mikmaso. i installed latest firmware. started well because i got 3 random shutdowns in 30mins. wheeeee!½14:58
Morpogif you like one of these:
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artemmaIs there a way to see Android's logcat on jolla? I want to check if Android app I want crashes because of no Google services or not15:00
* artemma seems to remember that he saw Jolla's logcat once somehow, but can't recall how I did that15:01
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artemmaah, /opt/alien/system/bin/logcat on ssh15:04
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artemmanah doesn't look like a lack of Google services: E/AndroidRuntime(15360): java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start receiver java.lang.NullPointerException15:06
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tbrmatrixx: try building this one and compare logs
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coderusMorpog: dropbox?15:13
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Morpog<Morpog> if you like one of these:
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coderusThanks :)15:14
coderuswill test and you'll see it in next update :)15:15
matrixxtbr: thanks, it seems to work, so maybe my project has some kind of legacy structure which just won't work anymore with newer sdk15:16
matrixx-> new project and copy code from the old15:16
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artemmanah, even newest apk oh easypark doesn't work, sigh15:20
artemmaE/AndroidRuntime(15910): Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException15:20
artemmaE/AndroidRuntime(15910): at
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artemmaor maybe that is some timing Android-Sailfish bridge that doesn't work?15:26
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matrixxtbr: thanks, your irl tip worked :)15:39
tbr(create new project from scratch and copy over sources)15:40
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Almindorhow is an app supposed to be closed if the "swipe from top" is turned off in the latest version of sailfish OS?16:39
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tbrAlmindor: long press in the running app grid on the app16:39
Almindortbr: so only from the overview then?16:39
tbrthat's my guess16:39
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Stskeepsthere's a setting if you love it, though16:40
Almindoryeah I was asking as an app developer16:40
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Almindorwas wondering if there was supposed to be some "close" functionality now16:41
AcceAlmindor: I think the option is there just to satisfy some old N9 users, who didn't want to get used to it16:42
kimmoli_sailingor android users16:43
Almindorwell it does get destructive in games16:43
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AlmindorI think apps should have an option to be "fullscreen" with no gestures16:44
Almindorwith some sort of indicator of course, so when you open an app like that you'd get a "warning" of some non-intrusive sort16:45
Almindorlike a 1-2s blended overlay16:45
Almindorproblem is how to handle16:45
Almindorhangs :)16:45
artemmaHmm, I guess app can intercept all of the events if it likes effectively blocking all system gestures16:45
Almindorwell if you play chro.mono or Heebo you know what I mean :)16:46
artemmaor are touches exactly  next to the screen edge somehow being delivered straight to the system?16:46
AlmindorI closed/minimized those games to many times by accident16:46
AlmindorI think they need to be16:46
Almindorotherwise hung apps would brick the phone16:46
Almindorbut I think a "press+hold and push from edge"  option should be maybe introduced16:47
artemmayeah, I think there's tiny touch area close to edge that's actually beyond display16:47
Almindorgood enough for games and still prevents freezes16:47
artemmathough.. how would it be porrted to nexus hardware then?16:47
Almindorno it's just the OS doing it first16:47
Almindorit only forwards to the app if it doesn't think it's an edge-gesture I think16:47
artemmaah, possible16:48
Almindorbut a press-hold+swipe option would solve this for games16:48
artemmabut could mean noticeable delay then?16:48
Almindorso you'd have to press for 1+ seconds first and then swipe16:48
Almindorthat's like milliseconds at most16:48
Almindor+ it probably just does a "is it at the complete edge" check first16:49
Almindorforwards that16:49
Almindorand only if it's considered a gesture then it takes control16:49
artemmasounds logical16:49
AlmindorI'm just guessing tho, that's how I'd do it16:49
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simbrownIs there a way with pkcon I can find out which files a pacage installs?17:21
sledgessimbrown: rpm -ql RPM17:23
sledgesor package name instead of RPM17:23
sledgesthis is a good one:
simbrownsledges: Thanks.17:25
simbrownStrangely the answer is no files17:25
simbrownI wonder what libhybris-sbj-libOpenCL- is17:25
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Nicd-so here's my QML:
Nicd-when I push that page on the stack, I get the error [W] unknown:111 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/PageStack.js:111: TypeError: Cannot read property 'parent' of null17:34
Nicd-it's probably something silly17:35
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Nicd-coderus: can you take a look?17:40
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: I get this all the time in Friends17:43
Sfiet_Konstantinignore it17:43
walokraSfiet_Konstantin: does "sorting applications in launcher" in patchmanager mean that you can sort all your installed apps?17:45
walokrathat would be excellent feature as with 3 pages of apps it's hard to find what you need17:46
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Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: oh, ok17:46
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Nicd-SfietKonstantin: problem is that it doesn't want to create the page at all :/17:56
SfietKonstantinNicd-: are you sure17:56
SfietKonstantinNicd-: try without line 17-19 ?17:57
Nicd-well no page appears on the screen17:57
SfietKonstantinwhat happens ?17:57
SfietKonstantinNicd-: you might want to wrap your signal handler in a Connection component17:58
SfietKonstantin!rtfm Connections17:58
Merbot`SfietKonstantin: Error: "rtfm" is not a valid command.17:58
qtassistantSfietKonstantin: Connections | QtQml 5.2 -
SfietKonstantinNicd-: ^17:59
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kimmolican i somehow detect that pullmenu is being activated (ie pulled down but nothing selected yet)?18:00
Nicd-SfietKonstantin: thanks, I'll take a look at that link. the qt documentation is pretty terrible, it's not easy to find what I want18:02
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kimmoliRTFM  PullDownMenu has property 'active' which is true when pulling18:27
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coderusNicd-: link is not valid18:37
Nicd-coderus: I deleted it already18:39
Nicd-I got it working with SfietKonstantin's Connections element18:39
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dr_gogeta86hi guys18:44
dr_gogeta86stimulate me18:46
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coderusNicd-: ah, okay. didnt read all conversation, busy at moment18:53
Nicd-coderus: thanks anyway :)18:54
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coderusrewriting mitakuuluu totally :)19:05
coderusit will be over 9000 better :D19:06
dr_gogeta86as telepathy plugin ?19:08
Morpogcoderus, yay \o/19:08
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coderusdr_gogeta86: no. it will be released as firmware to microwave overn.19:11
dr_gogeta86i did a nagios notify method with yowsup19:12
dr_gogeta86my collegues hit me the next day19:13
dr_gogeta86f*ck d*bag19:13
dr_gogeta86even on whatsapp that shit19:13
coderusanyone can explain what dr_gogeta86 means?19:14
Nicd-hmm, "Component objects cannot declare new functions"19:17
Nicd-I want to create a custom component with functions that are only relevant when using it, how is this usually done?19:18
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varbenHi there, never used irc, the only reason is my desire to be included on the early adopters list for this interesting and good looking os19:23
dr_gogeta86coderus: you said next mita will be released  as microwave firmware19:24
dr_gogeta86i did it even worse19:24
Nicd-varben: /msg sledges with your email and other information (including what devices you have)19:24
dr_gogeta86i've use tgalal yowsup library as nagios notification agent at work19:24
varbenHopefully this is the right place to ask to be included in that lost and use sailfishos on, my nexus 4 and grouper.19:24
varbenSorry lost=list19:25
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coderusNicd-: emmm19:32
coderusNicd-: what>19:32
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coderusNicd-: ?19:32
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Nicd-coderus: ?19:33
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coderusNicd-: >> I want to create a custom component with functions that are only relevant when using it, how is this usually done?19:33
coderusNicd-: wtf you doing?19:34
Nicd-well I thought that since I'm going to have many pages with a scrolling text list component, I might as well make a generic version of it and use it in all the pages19:34
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Nicd-so I figured I should just put it in its own file inside a Component { }19:35
coderusComponent is just object storage19:35
Nicd-anyway, I have a SilicaListView inside the Component19:36
Nicd-so I thought I would be able to put functions inside the Component too, which would then act as an API for the SilicaListView19:37
coderusi see you dont know QML basics and trying to coding19:37
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coderusnot programming, just coding :D19:38
Nicd-I'm trying to read qml docs but they're really not that good :/19:39
Nicd-and yeah, I've read that page19:39
coderusThe Component element encapsulates a QML component definition.19:40
coderus> encapsulates19:40
coderusComponent cant contain any other properties and functions than id19:41
coderusyou need to create your own listview object with base functions19:42
Nicd-I wouldn't have guessed that from 'encapsulates'. I now did spot "the Component type essentially allows QML components to be defined inline" though so I'm trying something19:42
Nicd-it worked \o/ thanks coderus19:44
coderuslearn harder :)19:44
Nicd-I just had to remove the Component {} from around the SilicaListView and put my functions inside the SilicaListView19:45
Nicd-then I use it as MyFileName { } in my pages19:45
Nicd-I do have to be honest, learning QML has been surprisingly hard for me19:46
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coderusNicd-: how many programming languages you know?19:53
Nicd-coderus: tough to count. QML isn't really programming though. the problem I have is with the documentation and the lack of good examples19:55
artemmayeah, qml is half-markup, half-programming19:56
* artemma likes it this way though: declaring as much can be declared efficiently, but no more19:56
artemmaat least that's how I see QML19:57
coderusNicd-: ask please. how many?20:00
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coderuss/ask/answer :D20:01
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Nicd-coderus: know or have written something in?20:02
coderuscan write something in and understand20:03
coderusyou said it hard, i just mean it depends on your common experience20:04
Nicd-off the top of my head 15 + mircscript + brainfuck20:06
coderusthen i cant understand why its hard for you :)20:06
Nicd-well as I said, it's not programming :P20:06
coderusmaybe just need more practice :)20:07
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Nicd-it's markup which means it's completely different from programming languages and most of the time I can't deduce how to do something based on my programming knowledge20:08
Nicd-instead I would need an example which the docs don't have much of20:08
Nicd-and half the google results I get are for qt4 which might or might not work in qt5 (rather not waste my time by testing :P)20:09
Nicd-so I appreciate all the help coderus :)20:10
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artemmaAmazing article on how exactly a clever and polite app should ask for permissions (hint: let *user* request permissions). Hope, that will be a UI standard when Sailfish gets permissions in use
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* Stskeeps clicks send to kindle20:21
artemmaNicd-: IRC is very helpful on qml (having great set of examples online would help as well). BTW, almost everything if not everything in QML since 4.8 should work in Qt5. I copy-paste most of such examples without doubt20:21
artemmahmm, shall somebody create a request on TJC for creating something like Nokia developer wiki? - That grew up into quite an amazing resource full of good examples and kind people20:23
artemmaalmost all it took was giving out labels such as Champion of a month or something like this and a tiny bit of prizes20:23
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artemmaGuys, what do you think is the best position for most/least important menu item in pulley menu?20:30
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Stskeepspersonal opinion: go by most often used; most often used is first20:30
artemmaI sometimes think that least important actions like About should be on the bottom, because, well, that's Western culture way and what all other user experience suggests20:31
artemmaBut then the bottom one is first to pull20:31
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* artemma only learned NOT to put the destructive action to the bottom. Hitting "new tweet" by accident very often when scrolling Tweetian to the top20:32
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artemmaStskeeps: "most often used is first" meaning top or bottom? :)20:32
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Stskeepsmeaning first item you hit20:32
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* artemma went to browse Jolla own apps..20:32
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artemmaIndeed most important ones seem to be in the bottom20:34
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artemmacoderus: you use very cool scrolling bar with positioning in Mitäkuuluu. Is it something of your own or some public component?21:00
* artemma is thinking about scrolling through hundreds of images21:00
artemmaMorpog: ping21:02
artemmaMorpog: tweetian has a cool icon apparently done by you21:04
artemmaone that scrolls everything u21:04
artemma mike7b4 20 days ago new icon by morpog also change toppadding21:04
Morpogah that one, yep21:04
artemmaif I get it correctly it's licensed under GPL as the rest of the tweetian21:05
artemmaany chance to get it under another license?21:05
Morpogwell, yeah, I didn't care about it :D21:05
* artemma will gladly refer to you, but wouldn't like to make my whole app GPL21:06
Morpognormally my work is always cc-by21:06
artemmawell, if you like to share this particular icon as cc-by, I will happily refer to you, just tell how you like to be referred21:07
artemmathat is if I use the icon (considering options for fast scrolling to top now)21:07
Morpoghopefully tehre will be a sailfishos solution for that soon21:07
artemmaI am not sure if there could be a standard solution for it :/21:08
Morpogjust  @Morpog or Morpog in freenode is enough21:08
artemmageneral practice on the web e.g. for flickr pics seems to be to say "photo by @authorName" linked to the page with the photo21:08
Morpogthe tweetian idea is nice, although I would have positioned it at the bottom21:08
artemmaokay, got it, thanks!21:08
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artemmais there a catalog of theme icons somewhere?21:34
* artemma is usually scp'ing whole theme to some temporary folder, later deletes it and then tries to recall the location of theme foder again..21:34
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* artemma_ Mac rebooted on trying to open one of the Jolla theme's cover icons :)21:58
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sjnI think I've managed to muck up permissions settings in my ~nemo homedir (Jolla), anyone know if there's an overview of what these are supposed to be? (e.g. a list/script with where and what to chown, chgrp, and chod to)22:53
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Turski(why have you even been messing with them)22:56
sjnTurski: factory reset + restore of old files from a tarball22:57
Turskisjn: well, generally everything should be owned by nemo, but some directories should have priviledged as group22:59
sledgessjn: sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf ....22:59
sjnsledges: nah, I mucked around a little more than that, including trying to "fix" stuff with a recursive chown :-\23:01
sjnshould the files that have a "privileged" group also be writable for the group?23:03
* sjn would guess so23:03
* sjn is getting a bunch of warnings in the log23:06
sjnSailfishKeyProvider_ini_read: unable to open file23:06
sjn(from lipstick, when I try to set up the jolla user)23:07
sjnjolla s/user/store account/23:07
sledgessjn: is your tarball mucked already?23:08
sjndid a plain tar cvf /path/to/sdcard/backup.tgz nemo/ -- from /home as root23:11
sledgessjn: suffice to untar on your host pc to check check perms/ownerships23:11
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sjnthe "SailfishKeyProvider_ini_read" function... where can I find it?23:34
sjncan't seem to get any obvioously good hits on google23:35
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sledgesgrep your /usr/lib/ for starters23:37
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sjnsledges: no published source code?23:40
sledgesbest lxr is on your phone with strings and grep23:40
sledgesafterwards you perform `rpm -qf FILE` and see if package is in the open (mer/nemo) or not23:41
sjnI'll try that23:41
sledgeshave fun :)23:41
sjnseems the settings program crashes a lot now23:46
sjncan't even remove my other accounts23:46
sledgessjn: anything in the logs?23:47
* sjn is also struggling with a crappy wlan network to the phone23:53
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