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| coderus | kimmoli: http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/87464226712/iconbutton-how-to-use-own-icons-with-highlight | 05:16 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: gm | 05:19 |
| Stskeeps | morn coderus, kimmoli | 05:19 |
| coderus | morning early finns :) | 05:20 |
| coderus | its 11:20 here :P | 05:20 |
| kimmoli | i forgot alarn from yesterday | 05:21 |
| coderus | hehe | 05:21 |
| Stskeeps | 7:22am here in poland | 05:22 |
| kimmoli | OT: those functions at QPaint looks lots like canvas stuff | 05:23 |
| kimmoli | i need to finish paint, and get started soldering the eink board. but first coffee. ttyl | 05:24 |
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| Stskeeps | cool on eink | 05:26 |
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| ekcmc3 | hello everyone | 06:30 |
| ekcmc3 | is there a guide to install sailfishos on a nexus 7 2013 | 06:32 |
| tbr | not at the moment | 06:33 |
| ekcmc3 | awwww. | 06:34 |
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| tbr | for determined people it shouldn't be too hard, but you'd need to start at zero and bring up a hardware adaptation | 06:39 |
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| ekcmc3 | indeed. i wish i had a device i could dedicate to that. i use the nexus 7 a lot. which samsung galaxy was sailfish ported to? it was a big thing on the blog | 06:47 |
| tbr | currently Nexus4 is officially supported. community ports are available at least for the Nokia N9/N950 and the Nexus5. | 06:49 |
| tbr | galaxy S3 LTE is in the works by jolla but as of today unreleased | 06:50 |
| ekcmc3 | sweet | 06:57 |
| ekcmc3 | does the ports have a lot of work done on them? like updates and such. | 06:57 |
| ekcmc3 | i have been really interested in a n9 | 06:57 |
| tbr | I wouldn't recommend a N9 at this point | 07:01 |
| ekcmc3 | oh? | 07:02 |
| tbr | unless you want the original OS on it | 07:03 |
| tbr | the hardware is really dated | 07:03 |
| ekcmc3 | how about a nexus 5? | 07:04 |
| tbr | install and go, apparently | 07:07 |
| tbr | not every function working yet, but I don't know the details | 07:07 |
| ekcmc3 | indeed | 07:08 |
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| kimmoli | i try to be cooperative but then ; [W] QQuickContext2D::toImage:3495 - Pixel readback is not supported in Cooperative mode, please try Threaded or Immediate mode | 08:01 |
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| stephg | morning | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | morn stephg | 09:08 |
| stephg | it's a sunny sunday | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | it is, going for garden when kid wakes up | 09:11 |
| stephg | asleep? you lucky parent ;) | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. well, got up at 6:30 | 09:14 |
| stephg | hehe | 09:17 |
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| stephg | ekcmc3: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 09:20 |
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| Mikkosssss | How to create text file (.desktop) from my application? | 09:27 |
| stephg | Mikkosssss: copy one of the existing ones or someone elses' from their source? ;) | 09:29 |
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| Mikkosssss | I mean I want make desktop file from application. "Click here to create shortcut!" | 09:30 |
| stephg | ah! | 09:30 |
| stephg | so writing the file would be easy, the complication is getting it into /usr/share/applications | 09:33 |
| stephg | unless I've missed something (really quite possible) | 09:33 |
| kimmoli | make shortcut-only rpm, and call pkcon install-local to install that rpm? but i assume you want to have dynamic shortcuts created? | 09:35 |
| kimmoli | not the best way | 09:35 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: stephg: isnt sailfish loading files from .local/share/applications? | 09:36 |
| stephg | doesn't look like it, no | 09:36 |
| scharel | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq#Naming says they are in /usr/share/applications/ | 09:37 |
| coderus | lol, i know, just there are many linux distributions allow adding custom desktop files to .local/share/applications | 09:39 |
| coderus | it seems to be just lipstick restriction, sadly then | 09:39 |
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| stephg | it's probably how things like favourites on the n9 were done too, so it might be an upcoming feature. Mikkosssss may be worth opening a question on tjc about it? | 09:41 |
| Mikkosssss | I made .desktop file to .local/share/applications/ and it wont show up | 09:43 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: i just tried it too myself | 09:45 |
| Mikkosssss | Wanted to make application to create web shortcuts for upcoming folder support. | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | w00t might know | 09:45 |
| coderus | also appearing desktop files require lipstick refresh by calling desktop-file-install, which requires root privileges | 09:46 |
| coderus | while it requires root such applications wont be allowed in harbour (just if you want t publish there) | 09:47 |
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| special | coderus: Mikkosssss: remember that lipstick is opensource, you could look at adding ~/.local/share/applications/ support and submit a patch ;) | 09:49 |
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| coderus | special: sure, but it also require to update desktop-file-install | 09:49 |
| Mikkosssss | when I copy new .desktop file to /usr/share/applications/ it doesnt need any refresh | 09:53 |
| Mikkosssss | So how to create text files from application? | 09:54 |
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| coderus | hm, really. wat desktop-file-utils doing then? | 09:55 |
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| coderus | Mikkosssss: using QTextStream for example | 09:55 |
| Mikkosssss | And how to manage them? I have no idea how to create listwiew from them | 09:57 |
| coderus | listview for them? what are you talking about? | 09:58 |
| coderus | you should use C++ side for this, its not doable with qml only | 09:59 |
| Mikkosssss | If you create random.desktop you cant delete it from laucher | 10:02 |
| Mikkosssss | so I need somehow to manage them | 10:02 |
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| coderus | emm, what the problem to save filenames you created? | 10:05 |
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| Mikkosssss | Only problem is I dont knoe how to code :D | 10:08 |
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| coderus | this is a problem, sure :) | 10:09 |
| coderus | the best thing you can do is create tjc poll for saving bookmarks as desktop icons for sailfish-browser :) | 10:10 |
| Mikkosssss | then how I can learn if I dont do stuff :D | 10:11 |
| coderus | aah, you want to learn? i think you should start from easy operations before :) | 10:12 |
| coderus | i undestand you have an idea and waht to eralize it, but you really should start from some essential things first :) | 10:13 |
| coderus | want* | 10:13 |
| coderus | want to realize* | 10:13 |
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| Mikkosssss | problem is I can do stuff only on weekends and still most of time goes on other stuff | 10:18 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: what about readin articles other time? | 10:19 |
| coderus | if you read more you can implement more ideas. | 10:20 |
| Mikkosssss | There isnt much to read for sailfish | 10:20 |
| coderus | Sailfish have nothing unique | 10:21 |
| coderus | you should read abiut basic Qt and QML stuff first | 10:21 |
| coderus | when you making cars you not reading about mercedes, you reading about engines and so. | 10:21 |
| scharel | yes, basic, general knowlege about programming is mor important than sailfish specific stuff | 10:22 |
| coderus | main thing is programmer knowledge, drawing in mund how algorytms are working and things communicete | 10:23 |
| coderus | *sorry for typos | 10:23 |
| coderus | specific I/O, Internet, hw access stuff can be different between programming languages, but you should be able to construct in mind main, common abstract processes your application should do | 10:25 |
| coderus | if you not doing something monstrous, it should be very simple too keep in mind abstract stuff | 10:26 |
| Venemo | just some stuff to laugh at: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/remember-to-close-your-casts | 10:27 |
| scharel | haha | 10:28 |
| coderus | Venemo: nice, thanks :) | 10:28 |
| Venemo | coderus :) | 10:29 |
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| scharel | thats why i always get nonsense when i use casts, i always forget to glose them :D | 10:30 |
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| Venemo | :) | 10:31 |
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| stephg | oops have a repeatable segfault in the settings app for the mail app settings :/ | 12:58 |
| stephg | faenil: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::parseFile:1096 - Failed to parse profile XML: "/home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/syncemail.xml" | 13:00 |
| stephg | think you're right | 13:00 |
| faenil | :) | 13:00 |
| faenil | yeah VDVsx already helped another guy few days agfo | 13:00 |
| stephg | VDVsx: ^^ you've seen that before I understand | 13:00 |
| stephg | cool | 13:00 |
| stephg | weird the file is 0 bytes long | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: well, it's ot a valid xml :) | 13:01 |
| stephg | ... and deleting it and it the settings app comes back :) | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | some guy got same issue while abusing the "restart lipstick" option from patchmanager :D | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | https://twitter.com/SfietKonstantin/status/473083147404722176 for people who didn't see it BTW :) | 13:02 |
| stephg | Sfiet_Konstantin: cool | 13:02 |
| faenil | stephg, yes the fix was to delete the file D: | 13:03 |
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| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: nah, it was Schturman posted you bug, he always have a lot of bugs with every app and tons of requests. i never surprising :D | 15:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: :D | 15:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: want to join the sailfishos-patches group ? :) | 15:50 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: sure, why not :) | 15:52 |
| phdeswer | Sfiet_Konstantin: what is that group? | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | phdeswer: https://github.com/sailfishos-patches | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | patchmanager and stuff | 16:09 |
| phdeswer | Thanks! Interesting stuff there | 16:10 |
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| * stephg rant nnnnnnnng kde device manager fffffffffs | 16:30 | |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: what's the problem ? | 16:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it works here :) | 16:49 |
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| stephg | kio_mtp not installed by default | 16:55 |
| stephg | no my tablet is not a camera... | 16:55 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: relaunching voicecall-ui (or messages) implemetned | 17:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (in patchmanager) :) | 17:50 |
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| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: good, thanks, will check it soon :) | 17:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: not pushed yet | 17:55 |
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| coderus | ...tomorrow. tired today :) | 18:26 |
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| tortoisedoc | rooo | 19:43 |
| tortoisedoc | fifteen men | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | on a dead-men's chect | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | jouhouhou | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | and a bottle of rum? | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | or two :P | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | crap why is setMask not working for me? :( | 19:44 |
| stephg | good evening internet! | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | good evening | 19:46 |
| tortoisedoc | good evening | 19:46 |
| stephg | it's still, well, not, sunny, but not raining! | 19:46 |
| scharel | is there a way in Qt Creator to manage the app version? I mean when I change the version of the app? i have to change it in spec, yaml, changes file and in my about page | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : do you know if qt wayland compositor actually checks input mask for mouse (set for example via setMask)? | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: not in detail sorry | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc | dang :( | 19:47 |
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| Stskeeps | ask during daytime perhaps, giucam might know | 19:47 |
| * tortoisedoc writes down note with naem | 19:47 | |
| tortoisedoc | thanks! | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | now for something completely different :) | 19:48 |
| * tortoisedoc wonders if there is harbour limitation on ads? | 19:48 | |
| stephg | ponies? | 19:48 |
| stephg | ooh | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | stephg -> rum bottles | 19:48 |
| stephg | even better | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc | ive got me own here | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc | it certainly does not mention ads in the "nono" list on the harbour faq | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc | so I would imagine it being ok? | 19:50 |
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| tortoisedoc | ... | 19:53 |
| stephg | Stskeeps if you have a sec a bit confused about the current structure of the piratepad | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps | mm the chair is cybette isn't it | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | no, netzvieh | 19:57 |
| stephg | this week looks to be tbr (unless I'm looking at the wrong one) | 19:57 |
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| stephg | ok I might be on the wrong one then | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | meeeting(s) | 19:58 |
| stephg | thanking you :) | 19:58 |
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| netzvieh | hm? | 20:00 |
| * tbr is NOT aware of being the chair of anything, JFTR! | 20:01 | |
| Stskeeps | tbr: yeah, i think he got the original etherpad | 20:01 |
| tbr | *nod* | 20:01 |
| stephg | yeah, someone should delete this: http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeeting | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: you volunteered as chair at last meeting? | 20:01 |
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| netzvieh | Stskeeps: jep | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:03 |
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| stephg | so question to everyone, can anyone think of a (harbour compliant) way of sending a dbus message on RPM install? | 20:10 |
| tbr | you can't run scripts, so that's out | 20:13 |
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| Stskeeps | stephg: perhaps some context? | 20:14 |
| tbr | I suspect you'll have to resort to "first start" instead | 20:14 |
| stephg | sure: ambiences, you install a jolla ambience from the store (i.e. the nfc detects it calls the store which pulls it down) somewhere in that process something sends a message to ambienced saying 'here are the new files, add them to your db' | 20:15 |
| stephg | when you do it via pkcon obvs none of that happens | 20:15 |
| stephg | you can %post a systemctl-user restart of ambienced and it will see them, but that's a nono | 20:16 |
| stephg | assuming 3rd-party ambiences behave in the same way on the store then it doesn't matter if one were happy that being the only method of distribution; if not then everything has to be packaged twice | 20:20 |
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| stephg | tbr, the problem in this case is there's nothing to run | 20:40 |
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| tbr | stephg: noticed, didn't expect that... | 20:48 |
| tbr | stephg: file question on TJC, make noise, poke jollans | 20:48 |
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| stephg | okies, will do, have added it to the pirate pad | 20:49 |
| netzvieh | stephg: on which one? :D I don't see it in the community meeting pad? | 20:52 |
| stephg | http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings is nestling under BasilSemuonov's big section as it is in a general way related | 20:53 |
| netzvieh | ah I see | 20:54 |
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| stephg | I've only just noticed, which is extraordinary given the harbour is how very many months old, but it's spelled correctly | 20:56 |
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| stephg | ^^ woop for proper English ;) | 20:56 |
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| lbt | stephg: jolla uses UK english ... although the finns can throw a few z's here and there :) | 21:16 |
| stephg | hehe | 21:17 |
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