Friday, 2014-06-06

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uvatvmwHi all.. I just noticed something odd in my sailfish qtcreator: My project is split across a bunch of directories for convenience and clarity. For every new port of my application I create a pro file that includes a bunch of pri files. In all qtcreators other than the sailfish qtcreator, I can see all the files referenced by the pri files under the folder structure.01:57
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uvatvmwin the sailfish qtcreator however, I see thefolder structure created because of the individual pri files, but not the sources and headers that I see in the (for example) regular qt5.3 qtcreator01:58
uvatvmwis there a setting that I'm supposed to turn on somewhere?01:59
uvatvmwis this the right place to ask?01:59
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Juubaanyone know if there is an usable GPS tracker software for Jolla04:07
amccarthyJuuba: checkout Halftrail in the Jolla store. Disclaimer, I haven't used it myself.04:09
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JuubaI will try an advanced Store-feature: use the Search!04:18
JuubaHalftrail is the only one app it seems04:19
Juubawarehouse has some "MEeRun Sports Tracker", le'ssee04:22
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camerisI got a question about Flickable and it's inheriting Classes. Currently flicking stops at first/last content. Is it possible to add a padding area so that for example I can flick to first content-item to about half of the screen? Would be nice so I don't  have to reposition my (rather small) hand on the phone and reach all contetn-items.07:39
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Stskeepsmoo wazd07:40
coderuscameris: you want some space free after items?07:40
wazdStskeeps: heya :)07:40
coderusStskeeps: hi07:40
Stskeepsmoo coderus07:40
coderusStskeeps: just roll that awsfunsome! update to everybody!07:41
cameriscoderus: space before and after all items.07:41
Stskeepscoderus: i'm useless, not involved with updates07:41
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coderuscameris: but using flickable topMargin and bottomMargin isnt solution for your case?07:41
coderusStskeeps: and dont forget to describe all new features and how to use them in release notes :)07:42
coderusStskeeps: it isnt trivial to reach some of them :D07:42
* coderus going to fix that awsfunsome! viewfinder in Mitakuuluu...07:43
SK_workcameris: either use topMargin / bottomMargin, like coderus said, or you can put some big empty header / footer too07:43
cameristop-/bottomMargin dont seem to have an effect in SilicaListView. will try header / footer.07:44
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coderuscameris: so its listview, not just flickable? :)07:45
coderusthen use header / footer, sure :)07:45
coderusjust set header: Item { height: Theme.paddingLarge; width: 1 }07:46
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coderusand same for footer07:46
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camerisas said Flickable and inheriting classes.07:46
SK_workcoderus: usually I anchors empty stuff left right, but width1 works of course :)07:47
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iekkuahoy, check this out: :)07:52
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cameristhx, header/footers are working. Another question if you don't mind: Initially the ListView should display the first Item at the top of the screen. What would I have to do? Seems that ListView does not have an onCompleted signal.08:00
SK_workcameris: positionViewAtBeginning ?08:01
SK_workcameris: it's tricky08:01
SK_workbecause ListView is slightly buggy08:01
SK_workpositionviewatbeginning might not even work08:01
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camerisSK_work: no, doesn't seem to work08:12
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SK_workcameris: I have to say: good luck with this because it is pretty hard08:17
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camerishmm, maybe I skip this whole thing. Was just an idea that I would have found nice to have.08:18
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camerisanother thing: In my app I set some c++ class as context for the qml part. this class opens a database as default connection and other child-classes do queries on the db. Is it a good idea to leave the db open all the time and just close it in the deconstructor of the data-class?08:22
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SK_workcameris: IMO it's ok if you use transactions08:24
SK_workif you write when db is closed, that's bad08:24
SK_workand it depends on the activity done on db08:24
SK_workif you just seldomly write on it, better close and reopen when needed08:24
camerisk, thx.08:25
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coderusMSameer: ping08:47
coderuswould your camera implementation allow ro record 1:1 aspect ratio video?08:48
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tortoisedocis it update time?? yes ? yes? :D09:20
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tortoisedocseems like everyone is busy !09:22
tortoisedocgood sign :)09:22
tortoisedocspecial: is the code for the silica activate accessible?09:23
Stskeepstortoisedoc: lunchtime09:23
specialtortoisedoc: activate() method of ApplicationWindow if I recall correctly09:23
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tortoisedocgrr crappy nokia09:24
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tortoisedocspecial: yea, isnt that code in the silica lib?09:24
tortoisedocis it available on nemo?09:24
specialno, it's not open. But it's just the three functions I mentioned yesterday09:24
tortoisedocyeah thanks :)09:25
tortoisedocill see if that helps09:25
tortoisedocthanks for the support!09:25
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tortoisedochmm funny09:33
tortoisedocvirtual box blocks my alt gr sometimes when restarting emulator09:33
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* tortoisedoc wonders09:39
tortoisedocis there plans to get capability to install sdk & emulator vm's on a separate machine?09:39
tortoisedocnot much luck with the three functions..09:42
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tortoisedocis there any way to debug windows behaviour in qt?09:42
tortoisedoc*qquickwindows that is09:42
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tortoisedoclike windows has winspy09:44
maciejkrupaAny news on the update?09:45
tortoisedocyes, its not out yet ;)09:46
tortoisedoc(sorry, couldnt resist)09:46
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tortoisedocits just not coming back09:50
* tortoisedoc reverting to hide / show09:50
SK_worktortoisedoc: what are you trying to achieve, out of curiosity09:51
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tortoisedocSK_work : simple qquickview->show from main09:52
tortoisedocthen applicationwindow->deactivate from qml09:52
SK_workexport it as a QML module and done09:53
SK_worktortoisedoc: I have done the "desactivate" from C++09:53
SK_worktortoisedoc: one sec09:53
tortoisedocthen calling show /requestactivate / raise from c++ to show it again09:53
SK_workwhat's desactivate ?09:53
SK_workwhat is not working ?09:53
tortoisedoclast part, showing after app deactivated09:53
tortoisedocwindow is not coming back :/09:53
tortoisedoci want to test if normal hide/show work (havent done yet)09:54
tortoisedocmight give some help on where it aches09:54
tortoisedocSK_work : what you mean by export as QML module?09:54
SK_workI have done this in C++ code to activate the view09:55
SK_workbasically, it listen to a dbus signal09:55
SK_workbut in your case you can create a QObject (that knows abiout the QQuickView of the app), and setContextProperty this QObject09:55
SK_workin the QObject, you would export a specific Q_INVOKABLE method to call raise for view, and then use this from QML side :)09:56
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tortoisedocSK_work, yea I was planning to do so09:57
SK_worktortoisedoc: please do :) it worked in my side09:57
tortoisedocbut was hoping there would be something ready already :|09:57
SK_worktortoisedoc: nope :(09:58
tortoisedocit seems setting visible=false from qml hides09:58
tortoisedoclets see if from c++ it works09:58
tortoisedocSK_work : I guess also friends app is not on harbour (as dbus is not allowed currently)?10:00
tortoisedocSK_work : thanks for the support :)10:01
coderustortoisedoc: you can initialize dbus, you can't have .service for it10:08
tortoisedoccoderus : ah ok, so dbus interface registration is ok?10:09
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coderustortoisedoc: sure. you just can't launch app by using dbus service call10:12
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tortoisedocgrrr crappy wlan10:15
tortoisedoccoderus: I might have missed your answer (if there was one)10:16
rcg<coderus> tortoisedoc: sure. you just can't launch app by using dbus service call10:18
rcgtortoisedoc, ^10:18
tortoisedocrcg : thanks10:18
tortoisedochmm launching != raising, right?10:18
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tortoisedocit works! :D10:22
tortoisedocraise was the trick :P10:22
tortoisedocthanks SK_work10:22
camerisSK_work: positionViewAtIndex(0, ListView.Beginning) works :)10:23
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gabriel9i noticed that wehen i run app from Qt creator something is wrong with pull down menu fonts and some other elements are wrong sizes10:32
gabriel9is this common bug? or i did something to my installation10:33
leszekgabriel9: you mean your app is wrong or qtcreator ui is messed up ?10:33
gabriel9app is wrong10:34
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leszekhmm... did not experience that. Do you run it in the emulator or on a real device ?10:34
gabriel9in both case i noticed that10:34
leszekoh thats strange10:35
gabriel9i know, but app works10:35
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gabriel9and when i start normaly(click on icon) all is ok10:36
leszekgabriel9: it happens with all apps you try to test or only a particular ?10:36
gabriel9i'm working on one now10:37
gabriel9did not tried rest of my apps10:37
gabriel9i just checked other app10:38
leszekyeah let me try that too. I think I need to write a new app anyways :P10:38
gabriel9there is no issues :/10:38
gabriel9are no*10:38
leszekok then it is definitely something with this particular app10:39
gabriel9i wonder now what i did wrong10:39
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dr_gogeta86for who needs ssh on windows11:02
dr_gogeta86install just client11:03
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Stskeepshow about .. putty?11:04
dr_gogeta86putty sucks11:04
dr_gogeta86and was a film to setup mer11:05
dr_gogeta86morning Stskeeps11:05
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leszekWTF code written (100lines) for an app without even once running to check if it works and boom it works. Nice. Love QML11:30
MSameercoderus: I am not sure. it depends on the resolutions allowed by the sensor11:31
MSameercoderus: but we can always crop11:31
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coderusMSameer: runtime or after?11:53
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dr_gogeta86says connman not available14:03
dr_gogeta86how to deal ?14:03
SK_workdr_gogeta86: why are you depending on connman ?14:06
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dr_gogeta86just add a repo to sdk vm14:06
dr_gogeta86via sb214:06
javispedrossu seems to trigger a warning when connman is not found on dbus14:06
javispedrobut that's ssu, not sb2.14:06
javispedroI think it's harmless.14:06
dr_gogeta86via ssu is ol14:06
dr_gogeta86via ssu is ok14:06
dr_gogeta86i'm behind proxy14:07
MSameercoderus: both depending on what you are trying to do :)14:07
dr_gogeta86i needed to set proxy in profile14:07
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MSameercoderus: actually, we get jpegs from android HAL. I am not sure we can get other formats as well14:07
MSameercoderus: so if we stick to jpeg then we have to crop the jpeg (quality will suffer a bit)14:08
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fluxjpegs can be cropped without lossy recompression, with some limitations? or was this relevant :)14:11
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SpeedEvilyeah - you can crop to 16*16 boundaries with no quality loss.14:32
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Umeaboysledges: You here?15:08
UmeaboyI can't find the Sailfish launcher anywhere.15:09
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UmeaboyWasn't it supposed to be added to Google Play?15:09
sledgeswas it?15:10
Nicd-I don't think it's released yet?15:11
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UmeaboyMust be the latter part of June.15:19
UmeaboyI come to think about how cool it would be to run Sailfish on an iPad 4th Gen which I happen to own.15:19
UmeaboyIt is Jailbroken.15:19
Umeaboy7.0.4. ;)15:20
UmeaboyHere's a project to proceed with I guess:
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UmeaboyIt's made for iPhone, but it could be made to work on iPad as well I guess.15:21
Stskeepsyeah.. sadly won't work on those15:23
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UmeaboyStskeeps: Because of hardware-drivers?15:26
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UmeaboyThat could be solved by using Xorg instead.15:26
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SK_workUmeaboy: no xorg with sailfishos :)15:30
UmeaboySK_work: Do you refer to the bootloader then?15:31
SK_workUmeaboy: I don't know15:32
SK_workI'm not an Apple expert15:32
SK_worknever hacked an apple product15:32
SK_workand I think that I will never do this (even if you give me a free iPad 2)15:33
UmeaboySK_work: I'll give you a free iPad Air instead then.15:33
SK_workbut it's really a different platform15:33
SK_workUmeaboy: :)15:33
SK_workdon't mind free iPads though :D15:33
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UmeaboyAs long as you work on it to port Sailfish. You have to come here in order to do so. ;)15:34
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UmeaboySo I can make sure that you just don't want free stuff without doing anything with it to make it better. ;)15:34
SK_workUmeaboy: don't you think you could step in ?15:35
SK_workor not enough experience in this things either ?15:35
UmeaboyNo. Not well experienced to most stuff. Just making RPM-packages.15:35
SK_workUmeaboy: that's already sopmething :)15:35
UmeaboyNot for Sailfish. For Mageia.15:36
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SK_workUmeaboy: let me check my emails on mga dev15:38
SK_workUmeaboy: that's already something :)15:38
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UmeaboyHave to go.15:45
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coderusMSameer: okay. we just need solution for recording 480x480 video for Whine port :)15:48
MSameerwhat's Whine port?15:49
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SK_workcoderus: seriously, in talk with knobvinker ? :)15:51
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MSameercoderus:  what's Whine port?15:53
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MSameerand why does it have to be 480x480?15:58
dr_gogeta86I don't know15:59
dr_gogeta86but also iphone use that15:59
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MSameerthat's a question for sailfish OS camera/mm guys not me :p16:01
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coderusMSameer: vine requires 480x480 video to upload :)16:37
MSameercoderus: I don't know if the camera can produce that or not16:37
MSameerif you have cameraplus installed then do:16:37
coderusMSameer: no, camera capabilities have ho 1:1 aspect ratio16:37
coderushave no*16:38
MSameerGST_DEBUG="droidcamsrc:5" harbour-cameraplus16:38
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MSameerso it doesn't16:38
MSameerso we need some sort of post processing to crop that16:38
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MSameeror we need to crop the buffers as they go out of the camera hw16:38
MSameeroption 1 is easier but it will cause reencoding16:39
MSameeroption 2 is harder16:39
MSameerit might be possible that omx encoder can accept a cropping command and in that case it'd be easier16:39
MSameerbut the reality is: it's not implemented16:39
MSameerI have all custom stuff for cameraplus so I can see if I can do it but the video recording is not that perfect16:40
MSameerI need to fix it first then I can add more features :/16:40
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MSameerso as much as I'd love to help you as much as I am unable to at the moment :(16:42
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coderusits not a rush16:43
coderusjust keep this in mind :)16:43
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MSameercoderus: keep it in mind when I am doing what?16:45
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coderusyou decide :)16:47
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MSameercoderus: I don't get you. don't give me such a vague line16:48
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vgradeevening all17:16
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sledgesevening vgrade17:20
vgradehey sledges17:22
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vgradewas planning a push on n950 adaptation help welcome17:24
* vgrade checks OBS17:24
tbris it alive again?17:26
tbrI can offer to test and debug17:26
vgradedoesn't look alive17:27
vgradetbr: thanks17:27
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vgradewill take stock when OBS comes back.  new kernel, new systemd, new pulseaudio, and get the changes made for sailfish already into shape, webhooked17:31
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vgradewith a view to getting an image build done of latest sailfish17:32
vgradeand also nemo17:33
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faenilvgrade, new kernel without telephony17:36
MSameervgrade: good work!17:37
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vgradefaenil: yes17:38
vgradeMSameer: just planning17:39
faenilvgrade, alright, keep me posted as I could want to spend some time on it, to keep nemomobile working17:39
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leszekok had a few minutes to write a new app for sailfish. A quick and dirty TurboReader port(originally for BB10 by QtHelex and I only went with the basic features) called TurboReadR. Hopefully soon on harbour17:48
MSameervgrade: the kernel from filipz (spelling)?17:48
MSameerleszek: good work!17:49
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coderusMSameer: i mean keep in mind this feature and implement it one time :)18:56
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coderushow can i get device orientation if page orientation is fixed?18:57
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coderusstill fighting with viewfinder, after rotating device it loosing aspect ratio and stretches :D18:57
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MSameercoderus: i can't promise to do it. You have the sailfish media maintainer's email so feel free to email him19:45
MSameercoderus: get the orientation via the orientation sensor19:45
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MSameeryou can use that as a starting point19:46
MSameerbut note that front camera is not flipped so it will be upside down when the phone is in portrait19:47
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coderusMSameer: what is meta?19:52
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stephgkimmoli, dearest beautiful amazing kimmoli20:03
stephg(ver) quick question about paint: is file-opening on the roadmap?20:03
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MSameercoderus: something specific to my implementation20:17
MSameercoderus: it gives the direction of sensor and the orientation angle20:18
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kimmolistephg: you mean this?
kimmolistephg: will be in next version20:26
stephgkimmoli: exactly20:27
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stephgthought I found a bug today and didn't have a computer so took a screenshot but it had sensitive data which needed that special kimmoli attention ;)20:28
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MSameeri wonder what would be the easiest way to build RPM  packages without having to install the full SDK...20:37
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stephgMSameer: you mean on a 'computer'? i.e. something not in chroot or not arm?20:39
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MSameerstephg: i am fine with a chroot20:39
MSameerI just don't want to install the SDK and use the vms20:39
stephgbut you'd be happy on-device?20:39
MSameerusually I use mer obs with a sailfish target but OBS is being upgraded20:39
MSameeri don't think I am happy doing that on the device20:40
stephgif you were willing to install the sdk to get the disk image of the build engine20:43
stephgchrooting into that would be quite straight forward20:43
MSameeri can download it20:43
MSameerand use binwalk to extract the stuff20:43
stephgand would -in principle- work out of the box20:43
MSameerand put that in the mer platform SDK as a target20:43
stephgor should anyway20:43
stephgbut there may be 1001 edge cases in the implimentation20:44
stephgworth a shot tho'20:44
specialMSameer: you can still use the sb2 SDK and mb/mb220:45
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MSameerspecial: and where to get that sb2 sdk from?20:51
tortoisedochow to get rid of the cover?20:51
specialthat's a good question. mine was set up almost two years ago20:51
tortoisedoci.e. when sailfish app is started cover is displayed -> any way to hide it?20:52
MSameertortoisedoc: assign undefined to cover20:52
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MSameertortoisedoc: do you want to hide the cover during startup or in general?20:52
tortoisedocMSameer : in general20:52
stephgquick question of someone that has (any) clue about how translation stuff works in the sdk20:52
tortoisedocMsAmeer : ApplicationWindow._coverWindow20:52
MSameerspecial: don't bother then20:52
MSameertortoisedoc: I don't think it's possible but I don't know20:53
MSameerspecial: and how to get the sailfish rootstrap from?20:53
specialMSameer: build yourself a "sailfish sdk target" image, I think20:53
specialand remember to ssu register it20:54
faenilinternal access....good ol' times <320:54
MSameerdo you want me to blog " build yourself a "sailfish sdk target"" ? :p20:54
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kimmolistephg: what about translations?21:00
stephgfinal step in getting an ambience template (based on the TOH dev kit template) that works is localisation21:01
stephgbut every time I run theirs it's throwing a no such file... error at build21:02
stephgI are confused21:02
kimmolii did found this helpful'
stephgit's entirely possible their template is broken as it doesn't look like the one for the browser for example21:03
kimmolidid include the lupdate/lrelease in .pro file;
stephgoh also cool21:04
stephgwill read that21:04
* stephg is stupid, but persistent21:04
specialsmart people are just stupid and persistent people who learn from their mistakes.21:05
stephgheh no I'm an admin, I don't think like most of the good folk in here ;)21:05
* MSameer is not "in here" :D21:08
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tortoisedocso smart people are stupid people who think? :P21:34
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Stskeeps.. or smart people are stupid people who hit their head too much as children?21:35
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specialI can confirm this, I was dropped on my head twice21:36
tortoisedocthat does not make sense21:36
tortoisedocthat would mean smart people are like super heroes21:36
tortoisedocstupid people who become smart by accident21:37
tortoisedoclike peter parker being bitten by a radioactive spider21:37
stephgspecial: only once on my head, or at least that's what my parents say :)21:38
lpotterI always wanted to know whay Peter Parker picked a peck of pickled peppers21:38
stephglpotter: was he on a see shore at the time21:38
stephgalso, isn't it past your bed time ;)21:38
lpotterstephg: nearly 8 am here21:39
tigelilpotter: go to bed :D21:39
stephgisn't it time you got up?21:39
* lpotter drinks another coffee21:39
* special wishes he could survive on as little sleep as lpotter does21:40
lpotterspecial: get some young kids21:41
lpotterI also usually have a 10-20 minutes midday sleep on the couch21:42
lpotterthe kids will train you to be able to do with little sleep21:42
specialbabies: the new productivity fad?21:42
tigeliyeah, I might go sleeping at 1-2am and will have to wake up at 7am21:42
lpotter6 hour night is good for me21:43
tigeligot used to that when they were babies :D21:43
tigeliI can sleep 12 hours if I get the possibility21:43
tigelibut I do not need to21:43
tigelisleeping is nice21:44
kimmoliGM or GN everyone, i need some sleep now.21:44
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MSameerlpotter: i have a young kid and sleep as i want "sort of" :p21:58
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lpotterit's that "sort of" part that gets ya22:03
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faenillpotter, does sailfish do 3g-wifi switching when it's suspended now?22:22
faenilor is it still so that I have to wake the device up to make it connect to wifi when I'm home?22:22
faenil(haven't tried lately)22:22
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lpotterfaenil: display off or deep sleep?22:52
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faenillpotter, deep sleep (which is what happens after X time when you switch display off,right?)22:54
faeniland 2) what happens (in deep sleep) when you move from one wifi area to another wifi area?22:57
faenil(please tell me it reconnects without having to wake the device up, or at least that it will, in update8 or 9 :P )22:57
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lpotterwifi has low power during deep sleep22:58
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faenilalright...good night :/23:04
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ShadowJKin my experience it doesn't maintain/update connectivity when sleep23:38
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