Tuesday, 2014-06-10

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chriadamcoderus: ping00:37
chriadamjust fyi with Saapunki we export contact data to (non-privileged) /home/nemo/.local/share/system/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db -- not available for harbour apps, but you can instantiate a QContactManager to access that database via QtPIM apis now without requiring privileges.00:41
chriadamcurrently, all contact data except for data synchronized from Facebook via the Facebook Graph API is available there.00:41
chriadameg, google / exchange / local contacts etc.00:42
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lclcI didn't follow sailfishs / Jolla the last few months, did they open source the UI too?  or still only the core?07:15
lclc *is no everything FOSS?07:15
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Nicd-lclc: the most recent change is that the documents app was open sourced07:16
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lclcok, but the general swipe UI is still not?07:17
chriadamlclc: I might be wrong, but my understanding is that the QML files are open, the C++ bits are still closed.07:17
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fluxwhat is the license of the QML files? I thought they are 'open' due to practical reasons, can they be redistributed?07:20
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zoldyck_why are there broken symlinks pointing to consolehelper at /usr/bin/pm-{hibernate,powersave,suspend,suspend-hybrid} on Jolla (latest update)?07:21
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zoldyck_(since there's no any consolehelper)07:21
chriadamSage_: spiiroin: ^^ re power management symlinks ?07:21
spiiroinfirst thought: something from new systemd that nobody noticed?07:22
chriadamflux: if you cat /usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/Page.qml for example, it's BSD licensed.07:23
chriadamnot sure about the rest of them, but you can check I guess.07:23
chriadamwell, that's my understanding.  I'm not a lawyer, nor speaking in official capacity obviously.07:23
fluxchriadam, nice!07:24
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spiiroinzoldyck_: thanks for reporting, I'm not sure yet why the symlinks are there, but I'll create ticket about it07:30
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stephgmorning guys07:30
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zoldyck_maybe you know the purpose of /home/nemo/android_storage and where it gets mounted and why it is a fuse mount?07:36
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cos-is there some new issue that causes "problem with network" when trying to call anyone?07:47
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cos-the phone thinks it has about half of 3g reception but outgoing calls fail07:47
tigelicos-: could be a problem with the network too07:49
chriadamamccarthy: lpotter: ^07:49
gabriel9|workis there a update for sdk?07:49
tigelicos-: what operator?07:49
cos-tigeli: i just rebooted the phone and now it works. telefinland.07:50
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tigelicos-: sonera has had problems with their network07:50
cos-i think i saw the issue first time last weekend07:50
tigelicos-: "Matkapuhelinverkon datayhteyksissä esiintyy katkeilua", http://www.sonera.fi/etsi+apua+ja+tukea/ajankohtaista/vika+ja+hairiotiedotteet07:51
cos-ok, could be network related then.07:51
tigelicos-: http://www.tietokone.fi/artikkeli/uutiset/soneran_mobiiliverkossa_ongelmia_toista_kuukautta_viimeinkin_korjaus07:51
tigelithat was in the news yesterday07:52
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tigelitoo bad sonera is not really informing about problems they are having07:52
tigelicos-: last autumn their lte-network had huge issues so that the devices would not fallback to umts when there was a incoming call07:52
cos-ok, i'm outside civilization and not following the news :-)07:53
tigeliand they did not inform about it until it got fixed07:53
lpottermight as well blame connman anyway07:53
mfulzdoes anybody knows wehere this home-nemo-android_storage.mount is done? Or is related to jolla only?07:56
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cos-btw "problem with network" is quite lousy error message. user has no clue if it's talking about wifi or cell network.07:59
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Stskeepsmorn faenil08:00
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faenilStskeeps, I opted in last night for the connman stuff, but haven't seen any update notification yet, is there any known issue with that?08:02
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tigelicos-: I've made a bug about it08:03
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Stskeepsfaenil: nooo clue08:03
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lpotterfaenil: don't think the hotfix is ready yet.08:05
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faenillpotter, ah, I see...can you edit this post and specify that? https://together.jolla.com/question/45026/hotfix-opt-in-hotfix-for-connectivity-in-upcoming-update-7/08:08
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zoldyck[]strange thing - Jolla reboots when I recursively grep / as root08:11
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zoldyck[]not immediately :)08:11
zoldyck[]tried 2 times08:12
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lpotterfaenil: I'm not exactly sure whenhow that is working. Aard does08:12
zoldyck[]I guess it's some kernel panic or /proc magic08:12
zoldyck[]can anyone try it too?08:12
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faenilspecial, is there anything I can do to make messages app display only one "Recipient" account?08:16
Aardfaenil: I wrote there we'll release the hotfix in the same week. not immediately :p08:16
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* faenil opens thread again08:16
faenilAard, alright, I'm blind sorry...08:16
tigelizoldyck[]: probably fs-corruption08:18
tigelizoldyck[]: would be my guess ;)08:18
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zoldyck[]btrfs corruption is fearful and I can't think of a way to check08:22
Sage_zoldyck[]: chriadam|away: spiiroin: those are in pm-utils package it seems so I would think they have been there for long time08:23
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zoldyck[]except for kernel messages which don't mention anything btrfs08:23
zoldyck[]in error level at least08:23
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zoldyck[]maybe file in /dev/ make it run out of memory08:25
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p2-matehow can I find out if my sim is 4G capable?08:26
Juubaservice provider?08:27
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pptry it in 4g mode?08:30
tbrwill also depend on your subscription. SIM might work fine in LTE, but subscription might have it disabled.08:31
ppyea, my old saunalahti just didn't go into 4g mode (did the dbus-send trick, naughty me :P )08:31
coderuschriadam|away: Mitakuuluu still have access to Contacts database on Saapunki :)08:32
zoldyck[]do you know if modern prepaid saunalahti is 4G-friendly?08:32
ppthis one is: https://kampanja3.dna.fi/dataprepaid/ :P08:33
pp(still seem to be available, no voice tho)08:33
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zoldyck[]does the lock screen icon switch to 4G with 4G?08:33
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faenildoes anyone know the different between using QQuickFBO and QQuickPaintedItem?09:23
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m4g0ghow to add attachedPage to page which uses as initialPage?10:58
chem|stanyone familiar with proper systemd stuff? I'd like to mount a btrfs subvolume before aliendalvik gets started, to mount the sdcard to data/media before it gets fused10:58
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leszekm4g0g: pushAttached is not working ?11:07
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oniongarlicshould rtsp streams work? I get nothing when playing with QtMultimedia Audio element. And playing with gst-launch from the cli sort-of works but the sound plays for about 2secs then 5sec silence and so on. Exact same pipeline on desktop on same network plays perfectly.11:09
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leszekoniongarlic: rtsp streams work last time I checked. But it depends on the codecs used11:11
oniongarlicleszek: I suspect that too.. as on desktop faad element is used. On the phone, I don't understand what magic element is used.11:12
oniongarliccodec is AAC11:12
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m4g0gleszek: where I should do thus?11:14
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oniongarlicbut how does the Audio element play internaly? using gst ?11:14
m4g0gif I set page in initialPage. May be in Component.onCompleted?11:14
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leszekoniongarlic: ok rtsp is not working for me anymore here xD11:15
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elenrilin the latest update, what does '* Updated kernel to linux-stable 3.4.87 version' mean?11:18
leszekm4g0g: firstPage.pushAttached . Is your problem maybe that you can't access firstPage ? For that matter see https://github.com/llelectronics/videoPlayer/blob/master/qml/harbour-videoPlayer.qml from line 60. Basically create a Item firstPage in ApplicationWindow and then in initialPage component Component.onComplete assign your firstpage to the applicationWindow item11:18
elenrilare you no longer using the android tree?11:18
elenrilor it's still android, but based on the newer upstream11:19
elenriland what's up with the kernel sources11:19
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Sail0rIs there a complete description of the database of the calendar?11:36
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Sail0rfound it https://github.com/mer-packages/mkcal/blob/master/src/sqlitestorage.h11:44
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Dr_Cainnow then, let's try 4G mode11:59
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cos-is there a way to know if i have a 4G subscription?12:04
Nicd-ask your carrier?12:04
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cos-i suppose the "3G" will turn to "4G" in city if i have it12:05
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Accebetter check that there aren't any nice "hidden costs" like "if you use 4G but have only 3G subscription, it costs you 5e / MB ..."12:07
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Dr_Cainnot too shabby12:09
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Dr_Caincos-: you might need a 4G simcard too12:15
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cos-Dr_Cain: ok.. my sim is at least 5 years old so i probably need to change it12:16
Dr_Cainindeed, I had to change mine too12:16
tbrmay or may not, it's hard to know12:16
Dr_Caineasy enough, go into a store and have them replace it, it worked within an hour12:16
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nyuszika7his it possible to install Sailfish OS on Android devices other than Jolla? I just want to try it12:25
Stskeepsyes, nexus 412:25
* nyuszika7h has a Nexus 512:25
Stskeepsnexus 5 is coming by community members12:26
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* Dr_Cain wonders how the battery drain will be in 4g mode12:34
Sceltawful compared to 3G12:35
m4g0gleszek: I can't use pageStack.pushAttached in initial page component. Where I can place this code?12:35
leszekoutside it in applicationWindow directly I guess12:37
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m4g0gwhy friends is not opensource? It uses this and can see there12:38
m4g0ghttp://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.sailfishos.devel/2067 - this is discussion with answers12:40
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coderusm4g0g: https://sailfishos.org/presentations/qtdevdays_beijing_2013_jpetrell.pdf13:39
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he1kkiBig thanks for latest release guys! Feels like modem -> adsl when I received upgrade to 4G network today! :)13:44
he1kki... and girls if there is any13:45
Stskeepsthere's some13:45
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m4g0gcoderus: great/ thx13:45
SK_workhe1kki: there's iekku \o/13:46
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he1kkiIs there any meaningful difference in battery use if I use VPN tunneling when using shared connection via Jolla?14:21
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Wntcoderus: lol, you were faster to respond :D14:37
iekkuhe1kki, thanks :)14:37
Wnt(on the mailinglist)14:37
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artemmaPerformance-wise after update phone seems to be a little faster and freezes somewhat less. Will see how it changes over time14:43
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Morpog_PC__artemma, i guess the final performance will be with scene graph renderer on qt 5.214:53
Morpog_PC__ultimate :D14:53
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Morpog_PC__performance goal14:54
artemmayou mean some particular graphics pipeline related update is going to come at some point?14:54
Morpog_PC__i know it14:54
Morpog_PC__artemma, see here http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/09/02/new-scene-graph-renderer/14:54
artemmabut then my particular phone is known to freeze often. Jolla guys were offering help, I wanted to try update first14:54
artemmaI thought Jolla is on 5.2 for a long time already..14:55
Morpog_PC__and you can see see in commits in nemomobile repos, that they work hard on it14:55
artemmahow do you guys like performance of the updated browser?14:55
Morpog_PC__artemma, nah, should be 5.1.x still14:56
faenilartemma, nope, not on 5.2 yet, but they've been working on that for a few months already14:56
artemmato me new browser feels a little faster, but everything tab related is slow up to seeing "stopped responding" once in a while14:56
Morpog_PC__artemma, it's better, but I wait for the new UI, real tabs are great though14:56
SK_workfaenil: and a few month more for 5.3 :)14:56
faenilSK_work, you mean they're testing 5.3 already?14:56
SK_workfaenil: no :D14:57
iekkucommunity meeting starting in 4 minutes14:57
SK_workjust that 5.3 will also take time14:57
SK_work3 2 1 0 launch !14:57
iekkuat #mer-meeting14:57
artemmaand when browser is frozen (for rendering, not my phone's usual freezing), I cannot even swipe it away. Heh, it's a pity Jolla can't use WebKit. WebCat browser based on that is so much more responsive14:57
faeniliekku, holy s*** I completely forgot that! :D thanks!14:57
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iekkufaenil, you are welcome :)14:58
artemmathough shouldn't ability to swipe app away to task manager be always working regardless of how badly written the app is?14:58
Morpog_PC__artemma, here sailfish browser is as fast as webcat14:58
Morpog_PC__and it never freezes14:58
Morpog_PC__coderus, #mer-meeting now14:59
specialartemma: not being able to push it away means the compositor is frozen or under severe load14:59
specialif an app freezes you get a little dialog14:59
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stephgPSA weekly Sailfish meeting in #mer-meeting starting now15:00
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artemmaMorpog_PC__: I am really-realy surprized to hear that. In my experience long pages with many photos (e.g. typical travel blogger reports) performance-wise are like day and night in sailfish browser compared to webcat15:04
tortoisedocjeee update!15:04
* tortoisedoc loves jolla15:04
tortoisedocthanks guys!15:04
iekkutortoisedoc, :) <315:05
Morpog_PC__artemma, maybe a device reset could help?15:05
Morpog_PC__anyway, will be busy next 60min at #mer-meeting15:05
tortoisedochmm hey sailors15:07
tortoisedocusing dbus-monitor15:07
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tortoisedoci noticed this signal called whenever the home screen changes15:07
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tortoisedocis there more info available on it or is it cs?15:08
SK_worktortoisedoc: what do you mean and what do you want ?15:08
* tortoisedoc wants 3v3r1th1ng15:08
tortoisedocjokes apart15:08
tortoisedocim talking about a dbus signal15:09
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tortoisedocit reports a value between 0 and 3 depending on which part of the homescreen you are15:09
tortoisedoc(upon switching)15:10
tortoisedocis there more documentation on this?15:10
specialsounds like internal API15:10
tortoisedocspecial : re-dang :|15:10
specialnobody will stop you from using it, but it might change or go away15:11
tortoisedocyeah as usual :/15:11
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specialI know it sort of sucks, but internal API is a useful thing.15:12
specialif we published and documented and maintained compatibility for everything, we'd never be able to change anything15:12
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tortoisedocspecial : understandable15:13
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tortoisedocis there a way to detect lock screen?15:21
tortoisedoc(i.e. when phone has lockscreen on)15:21
specialyou can watch signals from mce15:22
SK_worktortoisedoc: what's your need ?15:22
SK_workwhat are you trying to do ?15:22
tortoisedocto detect when the home screen is on lock screen vs other screens (switchers , apps grid)15:23
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tortoisedocSK_work  : heavy testing going on :P15:23
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specialrun as root: dbus-monitor --system and try locking/unlocking15:24
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tortoisedocI see15:25
tortoisedoccrap this nemo is so handy i forget about devel-su all the time :P15:26
tortoisedocthanks special!15:26
* tortoisedoc owes two already 15:26
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netzviehcoderus: for after the meeting: well it'd be restricted for the beta devs, wouldn't it? I don't see any reason not to have this on sailfish-devel. you might want to have a general ml then though, for not that devvy questions15:43
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coderusnetzvieh: we'll see, just i see it as many lines of coding info and so on15:46
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Nc_any easy ways to see why an app failed to install from the Jolla store?16:14
Yanielwas there a way to reset/recover the security code?16:16
Yanielor is factory reset the only thing to do there16:17
netzviehYaniel: IIRC nope16:17
netzviehNc_: hmm maybe logs, or you could install it via zypper/pkcon, that'd give you an error message16:18
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Yanieljournalctl ?16:18
Nc_netzvieh, hmm... might try pkcon later - really wanting a proper twitter client on my phone :)16:20
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Sage_Yaniel: that is called security code for a reason, if you forget it the way to get it reset is more or less sending to service16:32
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Sage_Yaniel: when doing factory reset it resets it however if it is set it asks the code before you can do factory reset16:34
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Yanieleven in recovery mode?16:35
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Sail0rIf you exceed the number of tries for the Unlock code, as a security measure, your data becomes inaccessible. You will need to contact Care to have your device reset.16:37
Sage_Yaniel: yes16:38
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locusffinally a great journalctl with colors!!!17:27
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locusfno buffering issues too, great job Jolla boys and girls :)17:27
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Turskilocusf: and on next update we will also have bash on fingerterm execute .bashrc as it's supposed to do !!17:29
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carbon_Hello community. I would like to be added to the Early Adopters emails for the n4. Carbon@mykolab.com17:51
Stskeepssledges: ^17:51
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nyuszika7hwait, journalctl? systemd?18:04
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Turskinyuszika7h: what about that?18:14
nyuszika7hSailfish OS uses systemd?18:14
Turskinyuszika7h: sure18:14
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gabriel9what element/property is used in sailfish media player for controlls18:33
gabriel9it is not transparent18:33
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gabriel9i think it is SilicaFlickable, SilicaListView or SilicaGridView because of pullup menu18:35
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Turskigabriel9: maybe Drawer?18:42
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Turskigabriel9: see the component gallery18:43
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Turskior DockedPanel18:44
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gabriel9how the hell did i not see that ones18:48
gabriel9i created all by myself :(18:48
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gabriel9damnation, still my SilicaListView go over DockedPanel19:10
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gabriel9i placed SilicaListView and DockedPanel in Page19:10
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zoldyckIs Yandex no longer installed along with Android support? I did a factory reset on Jolla, updated OS and installed Android support.19:12
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fluxthat is correct. this also means yuo can remove it without removing android support.19:13
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sledgescarbon's in19:23
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cos-should sending files via bt work?19:26
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gabriel9can someone test this code: http://paste.kde.org/pyy66jpco19:57
gabriel9list items are passing through boundaries19:57
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gabriel9is this bug? or feature :)19:57
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FireFly<Turski>   locusf: and on next update we will also have bash on fingerterm execute .bashrc as it's supposed to do !!   ← !20:03
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FireFlyTurski: what about updating fingerterm to a newer version?20:03
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TurskiFireFly: ?20:04
TurskiFireFly: that's not fingerterm related20:05
stephgFireFly: guess we'll see what that looks like when the next N4 image lands20:05
stephg(new fingerterm I mean)20:05
FireFlyTurski: I know, but I added support for some escape sequences a few months ago20:06
FireFlywould be nice to not have to override the fingerterm binary after each update :D20:06
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TurskiFireFly: so you're talking about silica version of fingerterm?20:06
FireFlyI guess. the nemomobile/fingerterm repo on github, the /usr/bin/fingerterm on jolla20:07
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Turskiok, that's not silica version20:07
Turskii think20:07
FireFlyThere's a new version in the works?20:07
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FireFlyAh, it's not all that important anyway (what I asked for, I mean)20:08
stephgthe one on the n4 is the new silica one yeah20:08
TurskiFireFly: oh, looks like there's just a silica branch on that repo20:08
gabriel9guys, can someone check my codez :) I am going crazy for the last 3h20:08
coderusSailfishOS folder patch: http://i.imgur.com/SCgK08i.png http://i.imgur.com/v5FMEqi.png20:11
gabriel9coderus: nice one20:11
Turskicoderus: well, that didn't take long... and looks nice20:11
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FireFly! neat20:12
MerbotFireFly: Error: "neat" is not a valid command.20:12
stephgoh that's niiiiice coderus20:12
coderusgabriel9: what problem?20:12
FireFlycoderus: what happens when there's >4 apps within a folder?20:12
Morpog_PC__FireFly, I guess the same as on n9 :D20:13
coderusFireFly: only first 4 are showed20:13
gabriel9Items in list go outside boundaries20:13
gabriel9over DockedPanel element20:13
FireFlyMaybe replacing the bottom-right one with three dots would be an idea20:13
FireFlyTo indicate "there's more than what's shown"20:13
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Morpog_PC__but only if it's more than 420:14
gabriel9or maybe to add just top of the next row20:14
gabriel9like on N920:14
gabriel9you can see next row of icons just a little bit20:14
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coderusgabriel9: in which orientation they are outside?20:16
gabriel9only if DockedPanel is beneath SilicaListView20:17
coderusgabriel9:  you using column20:17
coderusgabriel9: why you think it should fit horizontal layout? :)20:17
Morpog_PC__coderus, a white rectangle with opacity 0.1 behind the folder icons could look great20:18
gabriel9i am so sorry, i dont get it :(20:19
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gabriel9i removed Column from DockedPanel, and it is the same. I can see VerticalDecorator boundary. And some items from SilicaListView are outside when i scroll list20:20
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gabriel9i tried my own custom component and it did not work, then one of the nice dudes told me that i should use DockedPanel. Same results20:23
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ejjomancoderus: I need this patch o.o20:26
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coderusgabriel9: what you want to achieve?20:29
gabriel9can you run that code?20:30
gabriel9my desire si that SilicaListView items dont go outside SilicaListView20:31
coderusgabriel9: clip: true20:31
gabriel9i see them on DockedPanel20:31
gabriel9now i want to kill someone20:32
gabriel9i want that20:32
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gabriel9thank you coderus, and step aside. I will find that one who writes docs for sailfish silica and kill him :)20:33
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scharelgabriel9: i looked at youre code and tried clip:true in dock, didn't help20:34
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gabriel9it works for me20:34
schareloh yes, must be in ListView ;)20:34
gabriel9yea, i am in pain20:35
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scharelI had something similar in an app, with a flickable in flickable, there clip:true helped too20:35
gabriel9coderus: спасибо20:36
gabriel9qml is great, but docs and examples are pain20:36
coderusgabriel9: its common Item property. All QML items have this property. Same as width and height, x and y. Nobody write about these properties in docs.20:37
gabriel9all should be in docs20:37
gabriel9and option to hide inherited20:37
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gabriel9I don't know did enyone worked on ExtJS, best docs20:38
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scharelThese are the usual annoying little things you spend lots of time at the beginning but after that you know it and next time everithing is better20:40
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coderusgabriel9: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-item.html20:41
coderusgabriel9: and low look at this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-listview-members.html20:43
coderusgabriel9: clip property is here20:43
gabriel9i searched overflow :O20:44
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coderusMorpog_PC__: it looks better w/o background imho: http://i.imgur.com/c8cmn36.png20:51
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stephgthe squares do look a bit ugly, if they weren't square?20:54
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faenilI'm getting so angry at Skype20:55
faenilit's freaking not working20:55
stephgwhen does Skype ever work20:56
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coderuswhite transparent looks better: http://i.imgur.com/in4Lg6q.png20:58
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coderusand i dont think "more" indicator is necessary21:01
coderusits your phone21:02
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coderusyou should know how many icons you have in folder21:02
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chem|stcoderus: ehrm I got frenzy when I started using folders...21:05
chem|stI created like 6 folders (just like on the n9) and tried sorting them by icons as you do not have any chance to guess which is which while in editor mode ^_^ bad21:05
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stephgchem|st: yeah, also the max 12 icons before it starts to scroll confused the hell out of me21:06
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chem|stwell I never get to 16 icons...21:07
chem|stI have sane categories21:07
stephgwell if you do you'll wonder where 17 goes when you add it ;)21:07
coderusi have 42 games in folder :)21:07
chem|stimagine 8 categories with 16 each, that is alot of programs I never use and could just uninstall21:08
chem|stcoderus: ok thats valid^^21:08
coderusi'm installing almost every free app of the day from amazon app store :)21:08
chem|stbut I have categories like location, math&converters, media, mediaremotes, stores, utils, etc21:09
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coderuschem|st: look at my screens :)21:10
chem|sthmm sane!21:11
chem|stcoderus: are you from austria?21:11
coderusno :)21:11
chem|stor some around it?21:11
coderusi'm from russia :)21:11
chem|stthe banking logo... I am so used to only see it in hungary and austria21:12
coderusits Raiffeisen bank21:12
coderuswe're like that bank in russia :D21:13
chem|stok so you suggest dimmed background?21:13
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coderusno, i like no background :)21:13
chem|stI'd like a cut shape glassy21:14
ejjomancoderus: I just saw, that you had the same problem like me now with Silica's SearchField losing focus: https://together.jolla.com/question/37278/searchfield-losing-focus-when-placed-in-silicalistview-header/21:14
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chem|straiffeisen is that popular in russia?21:14
ejjomancoderus: how did you solve it?21:14
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chem|stwell it is called volksbank&raiffeisen for some decades now in germany21:15
dr_gogeta86I dunno if is appropiate here ornot21:15
coderusejjoman: currentIndex: -121:15
dr_gogeta86Websocket and power consumption, anyone?21:15
ParkerRAccording to the blog everything but camera is working on the 2012 nexus 7 (grouper). Is there any download link for this? I would love to try it out.21:15
ejjomancoderus: i set currentIndex: -1 on SilicaListView, but it does not work :(21:15
chem|stParkerR: send sledges your credentials and devices you like to beta test21:16
coderusejjoman: show your code21:16
ParkerRAre credentials anything special or just email/device?21:16
stephgjust that really21:17
ejjomancoderus: one moment... i'll test one last thing...21:17
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artemmachem|st: I've seen iPhone ppl with several screens full with just folders, each of them full. That's something like 150-300 apps :)21:25
ejjomancoderus: http://pastebin.com/Qrd1EF9621:25
ejjomannow I get error: Invalid alias reference. Unable to find id "headerItem"21:26
* artemma now also understands why iOS hard limits number of apps per folder to 9 - that makes all of them visible and sorta recognizable in the folder thumbnail21:26
ejjomanwith the column at the bottom, that i commented out, it worked - except for focus stealing :/21:26
coderusejjoman: tip: Silica have own Formatter21:27
dr_gogeta86Artemma ios user install apps due deal of the day21:27
dr_gogeta86Real usage is under 10%21:28
dr_gogeta86The rest21:28
coderusfor headerItem you should declare it and set headerItem = searchField in searchfield onCompleted21:28
dr_gogeta86Is the same things you use on jolla21:28
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artemmappl still install apps "just in case" :)21:29
ejjomani will try that - not well documented at all...21:29
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ejjomanfor Formatter: Yes, I know (even if I could not find any docs for it, also) - but I use custom logic for it... in this page it is not even used, just forgot to remove it while copying :)21:32
coderusjust check SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/plugins.qmltypes21:33
chem|startemma: friends showes a picture of three of their phones on the table, caption said something like "20k euro in apps"21:33
coderusejjoman: try to move searchfield out of header, just for test if focus still loosing21:34
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ejjomancoderus: wow there is a "documentation" :D thank you!21:34
coderusejjoman: :D21:35
ejjomanit did not even work in header... i contantly get reference errors. when i use the column on the bottom, it works (no errors + layout is fine) but then it loses focus :(21:36
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coderusejjoman: try to add in page onStatusChanged: { if searchPage.status == PageStatus.active { searchPage.forceActiveFocus() } }21:38
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ejjomancoderus: build and deployment needs ages every time :/21:39
coderusejjoman: i'm just using sftp to phone, and didnt rebuild project on every qml change :D21:40
artemmathere was some blog entry on speeding up pure qml development cycle to seconds with enter. or enterd?21:41
artemmaBasically it was about mapping qml folder from device to desktop and auto-restarting app whenever qml was changed21:42
* artemma hopes to see something like that as a part of SDK one day21:43
ejjomanyes, i am just too lazy to look into it... when i remember right, that was not a problem in N9 times21:44
artemmamaybe n9 apps were just faster to package/install?21:44
* artemma doesn't remember anymore21:44
coderusn9 apps are hell slow to install/remove :D21:44
coderusejjoman: mean building probably21:45
coderusfor me building is very fast for sailfish21:45
ejjomanso, this works without any errors and layout is looking good: http://pastebin.com/dxuC3BGV21:45
coderusmaybe because i'm using sdk under chroot in my linux, not using vm21:45
ejjomanbut there it loses focus all the time :D21:45
artemmaah, now I remember, most of my n9 development was pure qml and it was running in desktop as well. It's a pity there's no even half-working Silica for desktop21:46
ejjomancoderus: yes, that is what my next project is :D how long did it took to move it from vm to local machine?21:46
coderusejjoman: try this: http://pastebin.com/UhKYkbnV21:47
artemmathough there is project by M4rtinK I think that lets you map (some?) Silica controls to QtQuick Controls. Should be runnable from desktop as well21:47
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ejjomanthank you, i will try that, once the deployment has finished again -.-21:48
coderusinteresting idea by JollaSpain: http://i.imgur.com/OP6Yauv.png21:49
M4rtinKartemma: there it is https://github.com/M4rtinK/universal-components21:49
M4rtinKand you can check the modRana QML GUI to see how it can be used: https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana/tree/master/modules/gui_modules/gui_qt5/qml21:50
artemmacoderus: Looks quite similar to iOS idea by Jony Ive :) Not that it makes it bad certainly21:51
M4rtinKand artemma promised to write a simple example application :P21:51
M4rtinKcoderus: well, this is basically how it works on Harmattan21:51
artemmaM4rtinK: I was thinking about it. But I do not do any SailfishOS development lately - so no new proects to try that in greenfield21:51
M4rtinKcoderus: you you get an idea what is in the folder21:51
ejjomancoderus: looks good :) are the icons good-looking on-screen?21:51
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M4rtinKno idea why the did not do it - aesthetic matter or maybe some patents ?21:52
* artemma suddenly got excited when noticed Flashligh app icon in JollaSpain concept screenshot21:52
artemmaM4rtinK: I would guess it's just more work. I would also guess they are going to implement it in the future21:53
M4rtinKwell, you can kinda get used to the icons you can configure now21:53
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M4rtinKbut it is not very intuitive21:53
artemmaand, hmm, interested ppl probably can contribute as well. IIRC that's just lipstick launcher that is public21:54
M4rtinKbut at least we finally have those folders :)21:54
artemmaI mean open sourced in nemo21:54
ejjomancoderus: it does not work :( loses focus all the time :/21:54
coderusejjoman: can you make test case without your model, but some standart, check if it loosing focus, and share?21:55
* ejjoman needs more coffee and cigarettes before fighting against silica21:56
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ejjomanokay, i will try that22:02
ejjomanso, i took the model from silica searchfield docs example...22:04
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Morpog_PC__coderus, true22:05
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wazdWhat if you'd be able to put EMOJI symbol onto the folder icon in sailfish?22:09
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stephgwazd: someone's done that with the icon text already22:10
ejjomancoderus: strange, that does work... http://pastebin.com/in6y1pK822:10
wazdstephg: yeah, that was actually what gave me that idea :P22:11
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wazdstephg: but proper emoji icon, how cool is that?22:11
wazdstephg: and I think it's a matter of a few lines of code22:12
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coderuswazd: what you mean? install emoji keyboard and put emoji where you want22:13
coderusejjoman: thats i supposed :)22:14
coderussomething wrong with your model22:14
coderusseems it rebinded every time, not updated22:14
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ejjomancoderus: the model is generated from QxOrm, which accesses data from sqlite... i had the same problem while using generic Qt QSqlTableModel (and others) :/22:17
wazdcoderus: can you do something like this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96361817/emojifish1.png22:17
wazdcoderus: see "openrepos"22:17
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wazdoh, the number shows app count in the folder. Why would you ever need that?22:21
coderuswazd: emoji are images, make icon you want :)22:21
wazdcoderus: I'm just not familliar, can you assign a costom icon to the folder?22:21
wazdcoderus: not from a list of pre-defined, but custom22:22
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ejjomancoderus: okay, i got it... jolla hackers themselves use another workarround... see /usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Contacts/ContactBrowser.qml @ line 28922:25
ejjomanfocusOutBehavior: FocusBehavior.KeepFocus22:25
coderusits edge workaround ;)22:26
coderusif you do something wrong you cant clear focus :D22:26
ejjomanit is the only hack that works... sad but true :/22:28
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coderuswazd: ~/.config/lipstick22:29
coderusset icon you want22:29
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ejjomancoderus: thank you for your help :)22:40
coderusejjoman: its good you have a solution now, but you found that yourself :)22:44
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chem|stso what do I need to alter coderus to get the icons instead for the folders in launcher-page?22:51
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coderuschem|st: it will be released as patch for patchmanager later, i hope :)22:53
Dr_CainThanks for fixing the brightness issue, the phone is now usable in bed again :)22:54
coderustime to sleep now, bye22:54
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