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| Piero | where can I find an image for Sailfish OS on the Nexus 4? | 01:20 |
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| brendyn | hai ho | 04:44 |
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| v3ng3anc3 | Hello | 05:19 |
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| SK_work | coderus: really no much time because of work :( | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | at least your work doesn't block 6667 port | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:02 |
| SK_work | matrixx: Metal festivals FTW \o/ | 07:02 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: webIRC | 07:02 |
| artemma | Communi? :) | 07:03 |
| SK_work | webIRC :) | 07:03 |
| SK_work | kept the browser open all night :D | 07:03 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: what about 22? | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: blocking 22 is just sad and any IT people doing that should be shot on sight | 07:04 |
| matrixx | SK_work: indeed :) | 07:04 |
| matrixx | the app in QA \o/ | 07:05 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: great, that would immediately eliminate this company | 07:05 |
| matrixx | I wonder when do I learn that the status does not necessarily change by constant F5 | 07:05 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: they don't do that in .fi though, here they'd face an immediate lynchmob | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:06 |
| tbr | everybody likes their ssh+screen+irssi (or combinations of tmux and weechat) | 07:06 |
| SK_work | matrixx: it's impossible to learn this :D | 07:06 |
| matrixx | SK_work: I can see :D | 07:06 |
| matrixx | too excited, feel like s child waiting for christmas present | 07:07 |
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| iekku | matrixx, :D | 07:10 |
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| iekku | matrixx, you made me smile when i checked queue this morning :P | 07:11 |
| matrixx | iekku: :] | 07:11 |
| matrixx | I would be happy even if 1 jolla user would join the festival and use the app :))) | 07:13 |
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| SK_work | matrixx: there will be you :) | 07:14 |
| matrixx | yeah, but it doesn't count :D | 07:14 |
| matrixx | my purpose was not make an app for only myself :( | 07:14 |
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| SK_work | :) | 07:15 |
| SK_work | you will see the number of dls | 07:15 |
| matrixx | is it working already in harbour? | 07:15 |
| tbr | matrixx: my guess is, that you'll be positively surprised | 07:16 |
| matrixx | tbr: let's see if it passes QA first :P | 07:16 |
| matrixx | at least can't dissapoint easily if one user + me is enough ;) | 07:16 |
| matrixx | I hope I don't dissapoint many users by not having N9/N950 app this year :( | 07:17 |
| matrixx | or symbian ;( | 07:18 |
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| matrixx | whoops, *disappoint.. *coffee* | 07:19 |
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| jake9xx | matrixx: congrats on the app submission! | 07:36 |
| matrixx | jake9xx: thanks :)) | 07:37 |
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| matrixx | jake9xx: heyy, you're gonna be one Tuska sailfish app user, right? :D | 07:39 |
| jake9xx | matrixx: plan to, let's see | 07:40 |
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| matrixx | jake9xx: great, I hope you can make it :) | 07:41 |
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| kimmoli | jake9xx: ping | 07:45 |
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| jake9xx | kimmoli_sailing_: pong | 08:01 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | jake9xx: hi, pinged yesterday? | 08:02 |
| jake9xx | kimmoli_sailing_: sure, when do you want to look at the FET project :) | 08:03 |
| jake9xx | kimmoli_sailing_: I had the fans connected as PARALLEL not SERIAL, tnx god controller did not fail - it was +30C in Stockholm and Motala... | 08:03 |
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| SK_work | the FET project ? | 08:16 |
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| kimmoli | Fun Electronics Thingy ? | 08:44 |
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| nazanin | is the developer of Sailyfish somewhere in here? :) | 09:34 |
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| leszek | nazanin: sailfish is developed by more than one person :) | 09:36 |
| kengu | nazanin: what does sailyfish do? | 09:36 |
| nazanin | leszek: kengu it's a game :P | 09:36 |
| nazanin | like flappybird | 09:36 |
| kengu | ok | 09:36 |
| leszek | ah ok I just thought he made a typing mistake :P | 09:36 |
| leszek | my bad | 09:36 |
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| nazanin | leszek: nope :) and it's a she here :P | 09:38 |
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| leszek | ah :) | 09:38 |
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| Price15 | Is the HADK and the EA nexus build handled by two separate teams? | 10:09 |
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| Stskeeps | Price15: no | 10:10 |
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| Price15 | Stskeeps: so HADK work and the Nexus Roms are essentially the same? | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | hadk is how we do it, nexus roms is when we do i | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | t | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:13 |
| Price15 | Awesome | 10:15 |
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| matrixx | yey, my app approved \o/ | 10:26 |
| matrixx | when it should become visible in the store? | 10:26 |
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| mirkolone | in the next release for nexus 4 will the waking up delay bug be fixed? | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, some of the problem were sorted in EA2 at least | 10:30 |
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| mirkolone | good :) | 10:32 |
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| Nicd- | matrixx: when it says "published" in harbour | 10:41 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: ah alright, so it's yet one step to go :) | 10:42 |
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| Price15 | I got the harbour-communi.spec file how do I make an rpm to install? | 11:42 |
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| stephg | Price15: do you have the SDK? | 11:43 |
| Price15 | nope. But I can download it | 11:44 |
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| stephg | yeah you need the build env to do it:- that's a vm that comes with the sdk | 11:44 |
| Price15 | okay I have ubuntu desktop I guess I can install the sailfish sdk. | 11:45 |
| Price15 | But what I do after that? | 11:45 |
| stephg | so you have the spec and the source or the whole source or...? | 11:46 |
| Price15 | I didnt download the entire source from the github | 11:46 |
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| stephg | you'll need the whole source | 11:47 |
| Price15 | okay then | 11:49 |
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| pompon | hi all | 11:55 |
| pompon | is someone know when can be out the 1.07 version for nexus 4 ? | 11:55 |
| pompon | 1.0.7* | 11:56 |
| tbr | soon™ | 11:56 |
| Price15 | soon | 11:56 |
| pompon | lol easy answer ^^ | 11:56 |
| pompon | I saw the final version should be out soon | 11:57 |
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| Price15 | Well I asked earlier, they said earlier this week. | 11:57 |
| pompon | so maybe no any new testing release before | 11:57 |
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| Price15 | They said that they are in the testing phase. So I dont think it would take too long | 11:57 |
| pompon | that's very good | 11:57 |
| pompon | it's a good OS | 11:58 |
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| Price15 | yes and pretty stable for a test release. Hopefully EA3 would fix more issues and fingers crossed for camera | 11:59 |
| pompon | yes on nexyus 4 I had some bugs with camera, and on some menus, like "about" menu | 12:00 |
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| pompon | and do you know if the 1.0.7 can be updated directly ? I don't see this option on the testing release, to install the new updates directly without reflashing | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | no, not updateable | 12:01 |
| pompon | even for final releases ? | 12:02 |
| pompon | or it's just a functionality for jolla phones | 12:02 |
| Price15 | Stskeeps: will the Jolla Store functionality work :D | 12:03 |
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| matrixx | yey, got published status and already 8 downloads :)) | 12:17 |
| matrixx | way over my expectations already :P | 12:18 |
| Nicd- | let's check it out | 12:19 |
| Price15 | whats the name of the app? | 12:19 |
| matrixx | it's Tuska 2014 :) | 12:21 |
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| matrixx | specific app for Tuska festival in Finland, don't expect thousands of jolla users there :P | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | matrixx: small feedback based on the screenshots: clickable stuff should be primaryColor (white) | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | like the buttons "Poista suosikeista", "Kuuntele Spotifyssa", "Katso webbisivu" (those could be moved to a pulley menu too) | 12:22 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: I guess I missused the colors a bit, I used primary color only in band delegate which is currently playing :/ | 12:23 |
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| scharel | matrixx: I will have a look at it, even if I don't visit the festival ;) | 12:23 |
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| Nicd- | matrixx: the buttons should also highlight when you click on them | 12:24 |
| matrixx | scharel: nice :) | 12:24 |
| Nicd- | like in all list views | 12:24 |
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| matrixx | Nicd-: need to rethink the layout, colors and all better on next year's app, this was quite crude porting of the N9 client | 12:25 |
| matrixx | basically I didn't do much more than removing options from tab bar to pulley menu | 12:26 |
| Nicd- | matrixx: I'll write the rest to you anyway :) the "add to favorites" is duplicated needlessly (it's already in the top right corner) and all clickable things should have highlights when you press them (missing from all lists it seems) | 12:26 |
| Nicd- | but it seems to work and is surely useful for all festival goers, that's the main thing :) | 12:26 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: go on, I write it down :) | 12:27 |
| * SK_work gonna dl Tuska 2014 :) | 12:27 | |
| scharel | spotify link doesn't seem to work | 12:28 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: i wonder how should I separate the "played already", "playing in 30 mins", "playing now", and "playes in X days/minutes", if I should use primary color for text, maybe on different colored background? | 12:29 |
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| matrixx | scharel: oh, need to check that out | 12:29 |
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| HtheB | guys, does anyone knows the command to trigger the lockscreen? | 12:30 |
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| Nicd- | matrixx: maybe background color or some other indicator (a small vertical bar on the left denoting bands that are playing/about to play?) | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | matrixx: read https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-application-pitfalls.html | 12:32 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: maybe both, just to be sure | 12:32 |
| matrixx | scharel: argh, seems that the spotify links are in spotify internal format, starting like spotify: which doesn't work on browser :( | 12:34 |
| scharel | or a GlassItem with its center on x=0, this looks like unread emails in email app | 12:34 |
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| matrixx | hmm.. it seems that "spotify:" is not recognized by the system | 12:36 |
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| matrixx | even though I have CuteSpotify and android spotify installed | 12:36 |
| Nicd- | I don't think sailfish supports custom protocol handlers yet | 12:37 |
| special | use use xdg | 12:37 |
| special | we use xdg* | 12:37 |
| special | I don't think android handlers are translated, though. | 12:37 |
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| matrixx | :/ | 12:37 |
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| special | you could try creating a .desktop file for spotify: URIs and figure out a way to pass them to one of the two apps | 12:38 |
| matrixx | maybe I should replace the links with http ones | 12:38 |
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| matrixx | special: sounds like a complicated workaround :/ | 12:41 |
| special | well, CuteSpotify would be doing that itself, ideally | 12:41 |
| spiiroin | HtheB: depends on what you mean by "trigger the lockscreen" ... | 12:41 |
| matrixx | yeah it should be done by apps themselves, not my app who wants to share spotify: links :) | 12:41 |
| Price15 | what is the WindowID? | 12:42 |
| special | (it's not hard - see /usr/share/applications/jolla-messages-openurl.desktop and run update-desktop-database if you change anything) | 12:42 |
| Nicd- | does xdg always return one handler? what happens if I hypothetically install two spotify apps? | 12:42 |
| special | chaos and explosions, I'd hope | 12:43 |
| Nicd- | I'd hope for a selection dialog like in android | 12:43 |
| Wnt | matrixx: if you manage to get CuteSpotify to open spotify: links somehow you can just send a poll request to the CuteSporify developer ;) | 12:44 |
| Wnt | or pull request | 12:44 |
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| matrixx | Nicd-: does android have a possibility to select a permanent default app? So that it doesn't ask every time if you have more than one app | 12:46 |
| special | it does | 12:46 |
| HtheB | spiiroin: I mean to trigger phone into Lock mode | 12:46 |
| Nicd- | I don't know | 12:47 |
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| matrixx | special: sounds good, do we have an entry for that in jtc? | 12:47 |
| special | I don't know. It's possible to implement, but it hasn't come up so far | 12:47 |
| spiiroin | HtheB: still not clear ;-) do you mean the normal lock screen or device lock or something else? | 12:47 |
| HtheB | device lock | 12:47 |
| matrixx | I'll look for it when I'm off work, and create one if there isn't yet | 12:48 |
| matrixx | Wnt: actually I see Elleo is here ;) (if same Elleo) | 12:49 |
| spiiroin | HtheB: AFAIK device lock is timer based only. But Jonni should know better... | 12:49 |
| HtheB | spiiroin: no, it has also "immidiately mode" | 12:49 |
| HtheB | so when you press the power button, screen goes black and device will be also locked | 12:49 |
| spiiroin | HtheB: In immediate mode you just need to: set tklock and turn off display -> device lock should kick in | 12:50 |
| HtheB | I want to make a button on my homescreen, like we have on Harmattan | 12:50 |
| Wnt | HtheB: search for the qml code for the part that get's triggered when you swipe down in the applications view ;) | 12:50 |
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| HtheB | Wnt: let me check it out | 12:50 |
| Wnt | it shows the lock icon and dims the screen | 12:51 |
| spiiroin | HtheB: untested, but something like: mcetool --set-tklock-mode=locked --blank-screen | 12:51 |
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| Elleo | matrixx: yep, same Elleo; patches always welcome :) | 12:52 |
| Jonni | HtheB: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /devicelock org.nemomobile.lipstick.devicelock.setState int32:1 | 12:53 |
| HtheB | Jonni: thanks! Let me try it out | 12:53 |
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| matrixx | Elleo: nice, i love CuteSpotify :) | 12:53 |
| Elleo | thanks :) | 12:53 |
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| matrixx | I see there was nice things coming to audio handling in next two updates | 12:55 |
| matrixx | like better integration to system volume | 12:55 |
| Scelt | Elleo: cutespotify is great, thanks mano! are you planning to add possibility to queue tracks? | 12:55 |
| Wnt | in which directory are the built in icons stored on the device? | 12:56 |
| HtheB | Jonni, do you also have the command to turn off the screen? | 12:56 |
| Elleo | Scelt: yeah, it's been on my todo list for a while; but I haven't had much time to work on it since switching from freelancing to full-time work | 12:56 |
| Wnt | like tha one you see when swiping down in the applications view | 12:56 |
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| Jonni | HtheB: depends what you mean by turn off the screen... spiiroin's blank-screen should work | 12:57 |
| Jonni | too lazy to dig out the dbus command for it :) | 12:57 |
| HtheB | Jonni: nooo dont be lazy :p | 12:58 |
| Jonni | run the command and use dbus-monitor to see what it uses :) | 12:58 |
| HtheB | ok | 12:58 |
| HtheB | :D | 12:58 |
| Scelt | Elleo: kewl. the work is always in the way of important things like hobbies | 12:58 |
| Elleo | heh, yeah | 12:58 |
| matrixx | Wnt: in /usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch/icons/ | 12:59 |
| matrixx | iirc | 12:59 |
| kimmoli | HtheB: where was that thing you (me) tried already? | 12:59 |
| HtheB | which thing? :p | 13:00 |
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| kimmoli | devicelock | 13:00 |
| HtheB | I did Internet Connection with you :P | 13:01 |
| kimmoli | yeah, and you did try to get the device locked, but it went only to the lockscreen not locking the device? | 13:02 |
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| Wnt | matrixx: thanks | 13:03 |
| HtheB | kimmoli: it locked the device | 13:03 |
| kimmoli | did it? | 13:03 |
| HtheB | but I also want to turn off the screen | 13:03 |
| HtheB | but mcetool isn't recognised | 13:04 |
| kimmoli | aa you are missing that still | 13:04 |
| HtheB | ah wait... /sbin/mcetool | 13:06 |
| HtheB | oh, no :p | 13:06 |
| HtheB | false alarm | 13:06 |
| HtheB | seems like I need to install mce-tools first | 13:07 |
| HtheB | kimmoli: do you know by any chance the dbus command? Because I've checked out the dbus monitor, couldn't see that action when I lock my screen | 13:08 |
| kimmoli | looking for... getting some "This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library." | 13:09 |
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| spiiroin | HtheB: that mcetool thingy is roughly equal to: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply=y --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_display_state_off | 13:11 |
| spiiroin | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply=y --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:locked | 13:11 |
| kimmoli | HtheB: dbus-send --system --dest=com.nokia.mce --print-reply --type="method_call" /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_display_state_off | 13:11 |
| HtheB | :D | 13:11 |
| kimmoli | almost on same sec :)O | 13:11 |
| spiiroin | ... the closest thing to documentation we have is here: https://github.com/nemomobile/mce-dev/blob/master/include/mce/dbus-names.h | 13:12 |
| HtheB | ok, let me try it out | 13:12 |
| HtheB | spiiroin: first command worked! | 13:15 |
| HtheB | second also, but it doesnt blank out the screen | 13:15 |
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| spiiroin | you need both; 1st locks ui, 2nd turns off display | 13:15 |
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| spiiroin | ... or actually the other way around | 13:16 |
| kimmoli | hmm, "req_display_blanking_pause" didnt work at all | 13:16 |
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| spiiroin | kimmoli: from dbus-send? not meant to, gets cancelled if dbus client that made the request drops from bus | 13:17 |
| kimmoli | ah ok | 13:17 |
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| kimmoli | should work from registered instance? | 13:17 |
| spiiroin | from anyone who stays on bus (the private name of sender is tracked) | 13:18 |
| spiiroin | kind of what happens with: mcetool -P -B50 -P -B50 -P -B50 ... | 13:19 |
| spiiroin | but for qt/qml there are helper classes in nemo-keepalive | 13:19 |
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| HtheB | :D | 13:23 |
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| Stskeeps | OK, release is postponed until monday | 13:28 |
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| Stskeeps | of the N4 image | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | we hit a problem in testing phase | 13:29 |
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| HtheB | does anyone know if I can run 2 commands on a .desktop file? | 13:35 |
| HtheB | exmple "Exec=test && test2" | 13:36 |
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| SK_work | HtheB: try ? | 13:39 |
| HtheB | SK_work: didnt work | 13:39 |
| SK_work | HtheB: best is to write a shell script and put the two commands inside | 13:39 |
| HtheB | true | 13:40 |
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| kimmoli | got SoX compiled on jolla, but now pondering to get some audio output with it | 13:49 |
| kimmoli | but, priorities first, its BBQ time. | 13:50 |
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| HtheB | kimmoli: you there? | 13:53 |
| HtheB | argh, you'r;e gone to bbq | 13:53 |
| kimmoli | no, not yet | 13:53 |
| kimmoli | need packagin? | 13:54 |
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| kimmoli_sailing_ | HtheB: ping me after 1 hour. | 13:56 |
| HtheB | kimmoli_sailing_: exactly :D | 13:57 |
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| avivbyo | When will the update for N4 be out ? :) Can't wait to test my instagram client! | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | sadly first monday | 16:51 |
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| avivbyo | Um what do you mean? | 16:56 |
| lbt | at the earliest monday | 16:57 |
| avivbyo | cool | 16:57 |
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| matrixx | hmmph, spotify webplayer does not work on jolla, I might as well remove the spotify links from my app :/ | 17:12 |
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| scharel | matrixx: :( | 17:17 |
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| matrixx | maybe next year we already have the custom uri handler UI | 17:18 |
| special | you don't need the ui! | 17:19 |
| matrixx | which reminds me to check the tjc if already wished | 17:19 |
| special | add a .desktop file to openspotify and it's done | 17:19 |
| special | might need some dbus glue too, but | 17:19 |
| matrixx | special: it's not that simple, how about people who don't have any spotify app | 17:19 |
| matrixx | they need to be notified properly | 17:20 |
| matrixx | or people with multiple spotify apps | 17:20 |
| matrixx | I'm looking for a nice long term solution here, not a simple hack | 17:20 |
| matrixx | should be integrated in the system | 17:20 |
| special | well, blocking it on us is going to keep it blocked for awhile. We're busy :| | 17:21 |
| matrixx | special: I know, that's why I said maybe next year :) | 17:21 |
| special | personally I'd rather people do cool things anyway and demonstrate the gaps that way ;) | 17:21 |
| matrixx | special: yeah, that's a valid approach too :)) | 17:22 |
| special | also gives me more chances to try to push people into contributing | 17:22 |
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| matrixx | Nicd-: I still had an extra hour to create an update for the tuska-app, I did some of the UI changes suggested :) | 19:29 |
| matrixx | at least now items have pressed highlight and links are made as buttons | 19:29 |
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| Hartzi | matrixx and all the other finnish sailors: --> #jollasuomi :) (saa käyttää mut ei oo pakko). | 19:41 |
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| avivbyo | Is it possible to get Jolla Phone system dump somewhere? (not SDK , looking for jolla phone's one specificly) | 23:54 |
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