Wednesday, 2014-06-18

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coderusw00t: wow, Qt 5.2 coming :)05:56
coderusw00t: i can test anything you want on my device :)05:56
Nicd-Qt 5.2, when?05:59
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iekkui think w00t is sleeping, or should be at least06:05
Stskeepswe had to put him down after that mail06:06
Nicd-what mail?06:07
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iekkuStskeeps, :D06:15
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kimmoliw0Qt 5.2 ...06:32
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SK_workthanks to w00t, we know Qt 5.2 will land soon07:28
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SK_workand we got his phone number too07:28
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Nicd-can someone explain what's going on? :P07:28
Stskeeps ,
SK_workNicd-: nothing interesting, except that Qt 5.2 is coming07:29
SK_workthanks Stskeeps07:29
Nicd-did he send it to the devel list by mistake?07:30
SK_workNicd-: I guess :D07:30
Nicd-aww. shit happens07:31
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fluxwhat will the 5.2 upgrade bring to the table?07:35
fluxothen than better everything ;)07:35
fluxnew apis?07:35
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Stskeepsfaster scenegraph07:35
Stskeeps(much faster)07:35
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fluxI suppose scenegraph will enhance performance all around, though I haven't really seen performance trouble so far07:38
fluxperhaps if I were to write a scenegraph-intensive app07:38
SK_workStskeeps: isn't there a new JS interpreter too ?07:38
SK_workthat is (sadly) x2 slower ?07:38
AcceI thought the new JS interpreter was also faster07:39
slettaflux: things like calendar (with loads of elements) will see improvements due to the new renderer.07:39
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Acceat least some qt guy told so on a conference video07:39
fluxacce, do you believe everything cute guys say?07:40
Acceyes, of course!07:40
Nicd-"It is already introducing a performance improvement over Qt 5.1 when running QML code, but for extensive JavaScript calculation it is still lacking a bit behind."07:41
SK_worksletta: cool :)07:41
slettaSK_work / Acce: there is a new JS interpreter as well. V8 is replaced by the Qt-inhouse V4 engine. For most things it is equivalent. Bindings and light javascript are as before or sometimes better. Raw JS performance is down a bit, but the overall result should not be worse07:41
SK_worksletta: except if people use jQuery and stuff like that07:41
tbrStskeeps: what, you didn't proceed to delete it from the web archive? *snerk* *snerk* *run*07:41
Accewell, no problem for me, since my mindset is already that processing is better being done on the C++ side07:42
Nicd-so, with Qt 5.2, will we be seeing Qt Creator 3.0?07:42
Nicd-in the SDK07:42
slettaSK_work: I haven’t tried, so I cannot say :)07:42
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fluxand when do we get a nice Bluetooth LE GATT interface :(07:42
Stskeepstbr: already on gmane :P07:46
SK_workI guess w00t should change his phone number :D07:47
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stephgmorning guys 'n' gals07:50
Stskeepsmorn stephg07:50
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tbrStskeeps: quick, send a c&d!07:53
tbrreality never stopped meego trying to fight it...07:54
kaltsiNicd-: no qtc 3 anytime soon07:55
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kaltsiit's in the plans, but the mer plugin needs to be ported to it and redesigned possibly considerably07:58
kaltsias-is, it does not build with the qtc3 source tree07:58
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Stskeepstbr: barbara streisand gets brought up quite often when pondering what to do about things08:03
Stskeepsthat usually settles most arguments08:03
tbrStskeeps: she's a nice gal at settling disputes, isn't she :D08:07
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stephg(well, except her own, obvs)08:17
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matrixxQA was blazing fast, Tuska 1.1 already published :)08:27
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m4g0gIs it a way to use Flow with model? I need grid view with different cells size?08:31
SK_workm4g0g: Flow { Repeater { model: yourModel; delegate: something } }08:32
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Nicd-matrixx: nice work :)08:35
matrixxNicd-: could not do all the stuff you mentioned, at least not before next week, but let's see, might be that I'll still update once before the festival08:36
matrixxNicd-: and thanks for the feedback! I also think it's better now :)08:38
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coderusMGConfItem in SF modified to work with  dconf now or not?09:06
Morpog_PCcoderus, yesterday I also suffered a very bad reception while I was in hospital to visit my grandma. There I also saw that mitakuuluu used almost 100% of cpu time. I guess it's because mitakuuluu frequently tries to reconnect in such situations. Maybe you could detect such behavior and throttle reconnect attempts for a given time (like 30 minutes?). So it would try to reconnect only all 5 minutes or so.09:06
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coderusMorpog_PC: no, thanks.09:07
Morpog_PCok :)09:07
Morpog_PCit would for sure stop complaints by people ;)09:07
Stskeepsor go 1,3,5,10,1509:07
Stskeepswhich is a little saner09:07
Morpog_PCI just quit mitakuuluu after I noticed the cpu usage and my warm jolla :D09:08
coderusi can disable reconnect if 5 reconnects in 10 minutes. its only rational solution i see09:08
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TMavicawhere is the database of chinese database store??09:09
Morpog_PCcoderus, sounds good, but would be good to get a notification then on the phone09:10
SK_workTMavica: what do you mean ?09:10
Morpog_PClike the disconenct/connect notification that already is implemented09:10
Morpog_PCJust notificate that Mitakuuluu got forced disconnect to save Battery or so09:11
TMavicaSK_work: the recognition of chinese handwriting, the chinese word database09:12
SK_workTMavica: dunno09:12
SK_workcheck in/usr/share/maliit ?09:12
TMavicaand i found my chinese input preduction word not working anymore. LOL09:12
TMavicaSK_work: cant find09:12
SK_workcan't help*09:13
Morpog_PCTMavica, how about posting in TJC, so that jolla sees it? I'm sure they are interested in such a bug, given the rumours they want to sell in china soon.09:13
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TMavicacoderus: i saw this, but seem is useless..09:14
coderusTMavica: its base09:14
TMavicaand i use my own database09:14
coderusfind ~/ | grep maliit09:15
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TMavicaMorpog_PC: good idea09:17
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MoritzJTHi can anybody tell me how to reset the calendar db manually via CLI?09:45
SK_workMoritzJT: devel-su --privileged09:45
SK_worksomething like that09:46
SK_workcd .local/share/system/privileged/Calendar09:46
TMavicaMoritzJT: is your emoji keyboard work?09:46
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MoritzJTTMavica: 😱😢09:47
MoritzJTTMavica: yes, it works just fine, tried another reset?09:47
MoritzJTSK_work: Just delete the db? Thanks for the help :-)09:49
SK_workMoritzJT: back it up if you are afraid09:49
MoritzJTNo no, not that, i want to start with a fresh one anyway. Thought there might have been a less brute way. I mean by that i could also login as root on SCP and delete it from there, unless privileged is different09:51
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TMavicaMoritzJT: i do factory reset and just install emoji keyboard, same. No emoji show in keyboard..09:52
TMavicai mean I have emoji selection, but inside the keyboard is empty09:53
TMavicaso strange..09:53
TMavicaand seem only i got this problem09:54
MoritzJTCould it be that some dependency is not pulled, some network firewall or provider issue?09:55
MoritzJTTMavica: MoritzJT: Could it be that some dependency is not pulled, some network firewall or provider issue?09:55
TMavicadependency? there is more dependency needed?09:56
TMavicanetwork firewall??? not relative...09:56
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MoritzJTTMavica: Can you log what's being installed?10:01
TMavicawhole list@@?10:02
MoritzJTI'm still looking for the path to that damn calendar db 😀 Any clues?10:02
MoritzJTTMavica: I meant when installing emoji stuff10:03
TMavicaMoritzJT yours is 0.4-1?10:03
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MoritzJTOh wait, what language and thus font are you using?10:03
MoritzJTTMavica: 0.4.1-210:04
TMavicalanguage? english uk10:04
TMavicafonts? never change10:04
TMavicaall stock10:04
MoritzJTTMavica: Thought it might have been a different conflict10:04
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TMavicabut it is factory reset ed10:05
TMavicayou confirm u can select emoji inside the keyboard?10:06
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w00tcoderus: yep, coming within a few updates unless it all goes to hell :p10:11
MoritzJTTMavica: Yes, all working fine!10:11
TMavicau reset to 1.005 then 1.020 then 1.0718?10:11
MoritzJTI'm puzzled - what could be the culprit for your environment TMavica10:12
MoritzJTTMavica: Exactly10:12
MoritzJTw00t: What's coming? Nothing goes to hell!10:12
TMavicaculprit in my environment??10:13
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MoritzJTTMavica: *cause -> culprit10:16
MoritzJTw00t: Thank you10:19
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coderusw00t: can you please add me in 18 hotfix group?10:28
coderusi'm getting 16 update notification now :D10:28
w00tcoderus: unfortunately I know nothing at all about those10:28
stephgcoderus: the connman hotfix?10:28
coderusstephg: yes10:30
stephgsend a mail to from the email address that you registered with the jolla store with10:30
stephgand you'll automagically get it10:30
coderusi sent mail, but it still showing me about update to 16 version, i have 18 installed :)10:30
stephgbuuug :)10:30
coderusi updated with ssu re && version --dup10:31
specialthe list only gets checked periodically10:31
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kimmolitbr: ping. What is the status with usb host? massaging the kernel?10:43
stephgweird, I can't log into ssh over wireless any more, even though I can over usbnet10:45
stephgover usbnet key auth and password work10:45
stephgover wifi neither10:45
stephg... and there's nothing in the journal10:45
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tbrkimmoli: phdeswer if so. I only gave him ideas.10:51
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tortoisedoccan someone point out where the logic for displaying the notification screen (swipe from the bottom) can be found?10:54
Plntstephg: did you restarted jolla after enabling developer mode? i think there is a change in the latest update that you nned to do that in order to access ssh over wifi (at least on my device).10:54
stephgwell I've had developer mode on for aeons10:55
Plntoh, okay10:55
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kimmolitbr ok10:59
stephghm restart doesn't fix either11:01
stephgvery curious11:01
kimmolican you ping phone over wifi?11:06
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stephgit's there, it thinks it's there11:10
stephgit even does the ssh negotiation and rejects my private key11:10
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stephghm so debugging on ssh works over usbnet (i.e. setting the daemon logging level) so the problem is systemd somewhere11:13
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* stephg is an idiot, ignore him11:24
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TMavicaMoritzJT: i got emoji working now11:27
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TMavicafinally figure out mine input method SPEC fuxked up my phone..spec need remake...12:42
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TMavicaanyone can locate the problem in my SPEC of input?12:51
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SK_workTMavica: wondering: do you use yaml ?12:53
SK_workTMavica: a lot of stuff sounds wrong :/12:53
SK_work1. don't install in /home/nemo/.xxxx even if you are doing something hacky12:53
SK_work2. don't call su to move stuff: you are already a root user when installing packages12:53
ln-// is not a valid way to indicate comments in bash scripts12:53
SK_work3. don't move as root: better move the first time the db is needed. For example, insert a specific QML module inside maliit to perform the move as user12:54
SK_work4. as ln- said, use # instead of // for comments12:54
TMavicaSK_work: take a look of it12:56
TMavicai just do a extraction, to make a rpm12:56
SK_workTMavica: please don't use localstorage to do this :(12:57
TMavicacan u help me make a new one12:57
SK_workplease please pleas12:57
SK_workdo you ever write in your db ?12:57
SK_workor do you only read ?12:57
TMavicaread and write12:57
SK_workif so, why aren't you installing a db in /usr/share/ stuff ?12:57
TMavicathe database contain all chinese char form12:57
SK_workright, doing read + write: install the db when first run12:57
SK_workso basically, you should write some C++ code12:57
SK_workTMavica: do you know how to write a QtQuick module ?12:58
SK_workto an user path12:58
SK_workuse QStandardPath12:59
TMavicaok, take a look12:59
SK_workwrite a simple one that copy an db that you install inside /usr/share/<something>12:59
SK_workso you won't need this HORRIBLE spec12:59
SK_workthat is super hakish12:59
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SK_workTMavica: better open the SFOS SDK and use the template spec / yaml provided, it would be easier :)12:59
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SK_workTMavica: thank you for contributing chinese kbd btw :)13:00
TMavicabut seem only self using13:00
TMavicabut i saw 17x downloaded in openrepos13:00
SK_workTMavica: well, there are no much chinese people with jolla out there13:01
SK_worknot much (yet ?) :)13:01
TMavicai feel 17x is many13:01
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TMavicabecause not yet release in asia13:01
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SK_workTMavica: +113:03
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camerisHi, how can I colorize an image in qml, so that the alpha channel is left out?13:41
SK_workcameris: what do you want to do ?13:42
SK_workcameris: maybe in QtGraphicalEffects you will find a nice filter (they use shaders)13:42
camerisSK_work: thx, will have a look at those. I just want to have an icon which I can change the color. Just like the Silica Icon Button hightlight.13:44
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Inte_is there any possibility to sync notes to caldav?13:47
Inte_i tried adding the caldav task folder to accounts13:48
Inte_no error message13:48
SK_workcameris: are you trying to replicate the behaviour of the silica icon button highlight ?13:48
Inte_no sync as well, though:(13:48
SK_workif so, better use their API13:48
Inte_notes not tasks13:48
Inte_i'm trying to sync caldav notes to the jolla notes app!13:49
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Inte_ah damned13:51
Inte_completely confusef13:51
Inte_i was trying to sync TASKS to the Tasklist app which doesn't work13:52
Inte_I'm trying to sync NOTES to the Jolla Notes app with a webdavs share13:53
Inte_doesn't work either13:53
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camerisSK_work: yes14:35
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camerisSK_work: found a ready to use shader in QtGraphicalEffects, ColorOverlay. many thx for the tip!14:48
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coderushmm, android can't access contacts. anyone?16:44
coderuscameris: share your solution to public please :)16:44
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coderuswhy you ignoring meeee? :(17:21
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WntI thought that android applications are restricted from accessing the phone contacts17:22
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javispedroWnt, coderus: they don't. I learned this the hard way after realizing Google has recently learned all of my contacts' phone numbers :(17:41
javispedro(ie dalvik allows access to contacts)17:41
javispedroNightmare__, and obviously systemd will be the center of all this new infrastructure because... systemd!17:42
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ppsoon they'll merge the linux kernel into systemd17:43
pp... for performance reasons17:43
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cameriscoderus: install qt5-graphiceffets (search for exact name). import QtGraphicalEffects 1.0; Image {id:myimage, visible:false}; ColorOverlay{ source: myimage.source, color: Theme.rgba( color, opacity) }17:59
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camerisbtw, ColorOverlay.source expects an Item, thats why you need the invisible Image.18:01
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cameriscoderus: ... and sry for the late response. Was away, not ignoring you.18:04
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coderusjavispedro: hmm-m-m, whatsapp doesnt see my contacts...18:06
coderuscameris: thanks :)18:06
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yoldovahhey guys , anyone active to answer a few questions ?18:29
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yoldovahLibhybris is a compatibility layer for Android drivers18:31
cameriscoderus: minor mistake in above example. It has to be ColorOverlay { source: myimage /*instead of myimage.source*/ }18:31
Stskeepsyoldovah: right18:32
WntI just got a notification about the Connmann hotfix. Was it published for all users today, or was my registration for the hotfix stuck somehow? I registered for the hotfix over a week ago18:32
yoldovahso sailfish can run on anydevice that already has android ?18:32
Stskeepsyoldovah: we like to say cm10.1 and above18:33
yoldovahok so i have an S4 and ive been working on Ubuntu-touch but id like to work on this also ,  is there a portguide and source code readily available ?18:33
Stskeepsyoldovah: we're working to push out our hardware adaptation development kit, but we're sorting out some rough edges atm18:34
Stskeepsyoldovah: if you send 'sledges' a private message with your name/devices/e-mail, you'll get notified when it comes18:34
Stskeepsdid you see videos of sailfishos on nexus 4 for example?18:34
yoldovahthanks  + no , but i heard about it , hense my interest in development of the OS18:35
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Stskeeps - apologies for the italian, but it's quite good quality18:36
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yoldovahStskeeps, NICE ,  im assuming calls work ?18:38
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Stskeepsyoldovah: yeah, they do, but latest released version has a broken volume control, we'll release next one ideally monday18:38
yoldovahi see .  unfortunately i dont own a nexus :(18:39
Stskeepswe also did work on i9305 but it's bit on a backburner atm18:39
yoldovahwell id like to start up on i9505, sending sledges a message now18:40
yoldovahim sure im not the only one a bit bored of android lol18:41
Stskeepsi'm sure too :)18:42
yoldovahok well , i think ill get back to ubuntu touch lol   ... lots of compile errors :(18:43
Stskeepsgood luck, hopefully you'll get started on sailfishos soon enough :)18:43
yoldovahcan only hope :)18:44
yoldovahprogress would go faster if sailfish uses universal tools to build   ... ubuntu-touch forces me to use ubuntu ,   and im on gentoo 90% of the time18:45
Stskeepswell, you need a 64-bit machine, sadly; but, we aim for a chroot you can install on your OS18:45
Stskeepsso you kinda go for russian doll18:45
Stskeepsit works quite nicely18:46
Stskeepsi have my setups working fine on fedora, ubuntu, debian, etc18:46
Stskeepswith shared /home18:46
Stskeepsok, $HOME, to be exactly18:46
yoldovahah  ,  i have 64bit :)   its a beast18:47
Stskeepswe have very diverse desktops even in the company, so something like this is needed18:48
Stskeepsthe chroot is factually a small version of what runs on the device, so18:48
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Stskeepswith development environment, etc18:48
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yoldovahi see :)18:49
Stskeeps - i930518:49
cvp_hi :)18:50
Stskeepsmoo cvp18:51
yoldovahhow open is sailfish to being compatible to new hardware drivers ?18:51
Stskeepsyoldovah: quite18:51
peppelakappaIt's amazing how sailfish scales on various resolutions btw18:51
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Stskeepsi've run it on everything from a crap firefox os phone to high end devices18:51
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cvp_after the last update can i use the stop/play button on my in ear beats headphone, but forward/back is still not working. Is there maybe a solution ? :)18:53
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yoldovahcbp_ well its linux  so is it possible to measure when each button is pressed and then map the keys ?18:56
yoldovahcvp_, **18:56
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cvp_is there a terminal command to see if the phone receive the button signal?18:59
yoldovahyes  for example   cat /dev/inpu/event518:59
yoldovahnsure how it would be on a phone though19:00
coderuscvp_: Jolla?19:00
cvp_jolla yes19:00
coderuscvp_: using native Media?19:00
coderusso, my bh-505 working fine :)19:01
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cvp_my only play/pause :(19:02
coderuscvp_: try to open all media and shuffle19:02
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cvp_yoldovah: i try with your comand line (inpu=input!) and no reaction with forward/back, but playpause19:03
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coderusyoldovah: event5 is not for bt-audio19:03
cvp_i dont have bluetooth19:03
cvp_my are wire19:03
coderusah :D19:03
yoldovahthat was an example command ,  i dont know what dev the device uses19:04
coderusand i have no wired :)19:04
coderusafaik it's differ with some manufactures19:04
Morpog_PCI only got old Nokia N9 ones, but I guess those are not compatible19:04
coderusand they can mess with some functions with wired buttons19:04
Morpog_PCbut I tried them last time with update 1 :D19:05
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giucamStskeeps: that video may be good quality but that guy seems a little bit confused. he says at the end, like "you wouldn't really say it's android". duh19:10
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Stskeepsyeah.. well19:11
Morpog_PChah, you guys fooled us all the time, it's an android phone :D19:11
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cvp_damn i hate it to take the phone from my bag if i biking to forward the music ...19:15
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cvp_coderus: i install the superuser , but cant see any app in the list, i check with root verifier if i have root, and yes i have it,19:17
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Morpog_PCcvp_, apps that need root rights will show up there.19:21
cvp_aha, have thinking i can block internet connection or block reading any information from phone, like xposed/xprivacy19:22
peppelakappawhat does xprivacy ecxactly do?19:23
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Morpog_PCno cvp_ it's only there to allow/grant apps root rights19:23
Morpog_PCAt least it was like that when I last time rooted my old Nexus 7 which I gifted to my sister a while back.19:24
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cvp_peppelakappa: you can block the apps/games to read sms, phonecall history, contacts, gps info and all this stuff19:24
yoldovahXPrivacy can prevent applications from leaking privacy sensitive data. XPrivacy can restrict the categories of data an application can access. This is done by feeding an application with no or fake data. There are several data categories which can be restricted, for example contacts or location19:25
coderuscvp_: you can do it with LuckyPatcher by blockong activities and rebuilding apks :D19:25
cvp_yeah now we can use luckypatcher, before not ;)19:26
coderusbut of course its not solution for paranoid users :)19:26
cvp_and i thnak you, i will try with LuckyPatcher19:26
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peppelakappadoing this using xposed could block them only in the android environment or i am wrong?19:26
cvp_hehe right :D19:26
coderuspeppelakappa: what are you talking about?19:26
peppelakappacoderus: using xprivacy inside android runtime in sailfish19:27
coderuspeppelakappa: we're talking about aliendalvik stuff19:27
cvp_peppelakappa: its only for andrid not jolla and aliendalvik, i dont think you can use/install it on jolla... but coderus write with LuckyPatcher is it possible too19:27
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coderusLuckyPatcher is per-app basis19:27
cvp_also real android device19:27
cvp_* i mean19:27
coderusif you don't trust some application you can edit it's activities :)19:28
peppelakappaI know, didn't understood :)19:28
cvp_whats the last version of luckypatcher ?19:29
coderuscvp_: i have 4.3.519:29
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cvp_oh my gosh.... second goal19:43
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TMavicagoodbye spain20:00
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APTXafter the last update my phone started to randomly stop working. It always happens when I use the defaultweb browser.21:07
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APTXI'm traying to find kernel logs to see if it panics or if something happens but systemd seems to be the worst thing ever21:08
cvp_looks like, that android drain the batterie21:10
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APTXthe battery doesn't drain21:14
APTXif I take the battery out and put it back in it boots21:14
APTXwhen it happened today I had 60%  left after it booted again21:15
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cvp_APTX: i will try it tomorow21:17
APTXoh yeah and when it stops working the jolla boot logo appears21:18
APTXforgot to mention that21:18
cvp_moment, tomorow i plug the charger out... i turn off, turn on, but put batterie fast out and put it in... and than ?21:19
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APTXif you're asking how to reproduce this then unfortunately I do not know how. It happens randomly to me21:22
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cvp_good night21:39
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Van_ess0_Hi everybody, can you explain me usage of com22:29
Van_ess0_Tried to find information myself, but it wasn't successfull22:30
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saber_just want to know more about yaml23:12
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saber_I am trying to make a Qt Quick Extension Plugin23:27
saber_But it doesn't work23:29
saber_the error is23:29
saber_Fatal: No spec file found in '/home/mersdk/share//quickZHStorage/rpm/' and couldn't make one from a yaml #123:29
saber_this project only contains *.h *.pro *.p23:30
saber_that means I need to make .yaml by myself ? but where should be the location23:31
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stephgmorning saber_23:41
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