Thursday, 2014-06-26

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coderussmoku: use SeasideCache, it have no docs at all => more fun!04:24
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faenilmorning! :)07:38
faenilchriadam, anything I can do? xD07:38
chriadamnope, no ideas07:38
faenilchriadam, are your android contacts ok?07:39
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chriadamseem fine, yeah, except that they don't have avatars07:40
chriadambut names are fine, and other data07:40
chriadamno duplication etc07:40
faenilI wonder how this can happen then, since I did things from scratch :/07:40
chriadamno idea :-/07:40
faenilthat means no fix in upd8 at least :/07:41
faenilat this point I'd just like to get my situation straight via workaround or something, but there doesn't seem to be any, either :/07:43
faenil(that's some bad english)07:44
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gogetagood morning guys08:06
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SK_workhi gogeta08:07
SK_worklost dr_ ?08:07
gogetahi SK_work ... I never was dr08:08
gogetaI quit university after 3 month08:08
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gogetaSK_work: sometimes life is hard08:13
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tortoisedocgogeta : keep on trying :P08:14
tortoisedoc(aka dont give yo)08:14
tortoisedochow to handle gestures on c++ side with qtquick2 ? :/08:15
coderustortoisedoc: ping08:16
coderuswhat ads servicce you using08:16
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tortoisedoconly one with qt sdk :(08:17
tortoisedocwhich required some tweaking of the sdk08:18
tortoisedoc(as it is originally based on qtwidgets)08:18
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tortoisedocI believe this is the reason why it's showing only one type of ads (smaato) :P:P08:18
tortoisedoccoderus : how can I handle gestures on c++ side in qml2?08:19
lainwir3dhi ! :)08:20
tortoisedoci was actually thinking about putting the modded adapi online08:22
tortoisedocbut with the feedback I got about ads on QuickBar, I thought better not :P08:22
coderustortoisedoc: QmlView is QGraphicsView08:23
coderuswhat about using mouseMoveEvent ?08:23
tortoisedocno gestures api anymore? (like in widgets)08:23
coderusprotected:        void mouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent *event);08:24
coderusmousePressEvent (release etc)08:24
tortoisedocmouseMoveEvent  :~~~~08:24
* tortoisedoc shrugs08:24
tortoisedocill have to re-implement qt gesture recognition system :(08:24
lainwir3dtortoisedoc: maybe this ?
SK_worklainwir3d: that's sensors08:25
lainwir3din the files at the bottom, there is a qmlsensorgestures/plugin/qcountergestureplugin.cpp08:25
SK_worktortoisedoc: QGesture is in widgets module08:26
tortoisedocSK_work : i know :-(08:26
SK_workso you need to reimplement to make it work inside a Qml based stuff08:26
SK_workwhat ar you trying to do actually ?08:27
tortoisedocSK_work : i need it on c++08:27
tortoisedocfix broken gestures on lockscreen when quickbar is shown08:27
SK_worktortoisedoc: ???08:27
SK_workcontext ?08:27
tortoisedocquickbar? :)08:27
tortoisedocis version of quickbar for sailfish (was on meego as well)08:28
SK_workhow do you do this ?08:28
tortoisedocblack magic :P08:28
SK_workand how gesture have to do with this ?08:29
tortoisedocswiping gestures (or in general all gestures except pulling) are not working on the lockscreen when quickbar is displayed08:29
tortoisedoc(moving the screen up / down does however)08:30
SK_workwhat's the bug you are trying to fix, and how are you attempting to fix it ?08:30
SK_worktortoisedoc: how did you do quick bar ?08:30
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SK_workdid you patched the lockscreen ?08:30
tortoisedocSK_work : no08:30
tortoisedocits all qt c++08:30
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tortoisedoc(and qml for presentation)08:31
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SK_workstill, how did you do this without altering the system homescreen08:31
tortoisedocit is internal stuff which according to some jolla guys might stop working in the future08:31
coderustortoisedoc: just make sample project opensoure please, without quicckbar stuff08:31
coderusand we can hack it08:31
SK_workthe fact is that it seems that you managed to override (?) the gesture recognizer08:31
tortoisedocso I am a bit reticent to show it :08:31
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tortoisedocSK_work : gesture recognizer?08:31
SK_worktortoisedoc: exploiting lipstick's window capabilities ?08:32
tortoisedocwhere is that?08:32
tortoisedocSK_work : yes08:32
SK_worktortoisedoc: in silica windows, there are ways to handle gesture built-in08:32
SK_workcheck the QML source code08:32
tortoisedocSK_work : qml source code of silica?08:34
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tortoisedocis closed :(08:34
SK_worktortoisedoc: ls /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml ?08:34
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intehello is it possible to modify an app starzer to send a kill-comnand when the app is closed?08:36
SK_workinte: why ?08:36
intelike the starter opens a terminal app and starts a background process08:37
tortoisedocinte : start a process which starts a childprocess, when it exits, it kills it=?08:38
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tortoisedocinte: see QProcess08:38
SK_workinte: write a script with yourDaemon & && term && killall yourDaemon ?08:39
intewhen the app is killed the process should also08:39
intesk_work tried that already08:39
SK_workinte: don't work ? :(08:39
intethat works if you kill the app regulary, e.g. with the quit-command08:40
intedoesn't work when killing by swiping08:40
SK_workdaemon & <nl> term <nl> killall daemon ?08:41
SK_workwhen term is killed, the next line will be executed (without checking the exit code)08:41
intetortoisedoc i don't know much about qt, it's a ncurses app08:41
tortoisedocinte : get the proc id of your process from the app (when it is started), add a file monitor to /proc/<procid/cmdline :P08:41
tortoisedocinte : aah ok08:42
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tortoisedocoldskool :)08:42
intesk_work doesn't work either:(08:42
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SK_workinte: what happens ?08:43
SK_workthe app got killed directly ?08:43
intejup, but not the process08:44
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tortoisedocinte : is the app starting the process or the other way around?08:45
inteboth are independend08:45
tortoisedocinte : ok, so they can start independently?08:45
tortoisedocmake a pipe?08:46
tortoisedoc(named pipe)08:46
intewith | or with && ?08:46
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intethe && do not work08:47
inteits this thing btw08:49
intekillibg gpg-agent works fine when closing mutt regularly08:49
intewhen swiping gpg-agent keeps running08:50
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fluxsoo, people use mutt on jolla? must be an exercise in frustration?-)08:55
intetortoisedoc ah got it will try it thanks!!08:55
inteflux for me it works for gpg messages08:55
fluxinte, you use it via imap or can use use some local spools for it?08:56
intejust wanted to share it and obviously people are using it08:56
intenot too many, though:)08:56
inte~100 dl08:56
fluxthat's fine, in a sense it's pretty cool but I would really rather have hwkbd for mutt :)08:56
inteflux both possible i made a fechtmail rpm as well08:57
inteflux works better than you'd expect08:57
intetry it:)08:57
fluxnah, I can always access my mutt via ssh :)08:57
fluxwhich is of course even worse08:57
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intestill better than using k9mail on alien;)08:58
intehave you tried mutt via ssh on jolla?09:00
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fluxwell, not really, but I have the option as I do use irc over ssh and my mutt is runing the same screen09:00
inteflux why don't you use irc for SailfishOS?09:02
inteits great!09:02
intei use it with bip09:02
fluxwell, I would need to use ircproxy with it and I doubt it works as nice in ping timeouts etc.09:02
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fluxI have an irc client yes, but I rarely run it09:02
intei installed bip on my fritzbox router and use i use sailfishirc to connect to it09:03
inteworks great!09:04
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inteif you consider mutt without hw keyboard a pain, how can you use irssi or bitchx?? :)09:05
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fluxI use them very little09:05
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intei probably would also:)09:06
intecan't you use irssi or bitchx as ircproxy as well?09:06
intei don't know, it's been a while:)09:07
fluxyes I can, but it's not quite as smooth still09:07
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fluxmaybe I'll try setting it up some day(TM) again09:07
fluxI maybe used it with n90009:07
intejust thought it might be at least a littlw mor comfortable09:07
inteok but there you HAD a hw keyboard09:08
intewould have loved to buy a n950 those days09:08
intethat was a shame... but it's over (and fine)09:09
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matrixxkimmoli: just wanted to say I love your Paint <310:08
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kimmolimatrixx: thank you !!10:09
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SK_workcos-: paint app by kimmoli10:28
tortoisedocSK_work: why is there org.nemomobile.lipstick and com.jolla.lipstick?10:28
SK_worktortoisedoc: lipstick-qt5 and lipistck-jolla-home10:29
SK_workin practice, they should be the same dbus interface10:29
SK_worklipstick is oss, jolla-home is based on lipstick to create jolla homescreen10:30
mike7b4_on_x230 I have tried pkcon install vim some times latest week but it "hangs" just at "0%  installing packages" I can however install my own apps etc...10:30
tortoisedocSK_work: can i use com.jolla.lipstick from qml?10:31
Nicd-mike7b4_on_x230: how long did you wait?10:31
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locusfcom.jolla.lipstick is probably something private they need eg. for app covers10:33
mike7b4_on_x230Nicd-: just tried now still 0%10:37
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SK_worktortoisedoc: no11:35
SK_worktortoisedoc: except if you use nemo.dbus11:35
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tortoisedocSK_work :how is com.jolla.lipstic related to nemo.dbus?13:00
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SK_worktortoisedoc: DBus API ?13:05
SK_workwhat do you refer as com.jolla.lipstick ?13:05
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BasilSemuonovWhy there is no native gmail app for sailfishos with hours of apii being opened? time to set sail (-:13:53
SK_workBasilSemuonov: :D13:54
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SK_workyep :):)13:54
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SK_workBasilSemuonov: even better, we should have gmail integration in email app13:54
gogetafor me we need to boycot API13:55
gogetawhile you have IMAP13:55
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gogetaBuild business on top of public API13:55
gogetais like create sand castles13:55
SK_workgogeta: it's google :/13:55
gogetafuck up google13:56
gogetasorry for harshness13:56
intewhy would one need an app for gmail?13:56
inteit also works through exchange protocol or not?13:56
intei barely use google anyways, but for what i do it works fine with contacts, calendar and stuff13:56
Nicd-still no Google+ write API :/13:57
intewhat was google+ again?13:57
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SK_workinte: no13:58
SK_workNicd-: no13:58
SK_workNicd-: and I don't know if it's that bad13:58
inteis *anyone* actually using google+13:58
SK_workG+ shouldn't become a FB bis, with bots posting ads13:59
SK_workbut well, FB API is already so bad13:59
intekimmoli_sailing_: ok :)13:59
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intei guess i set up an account once and added some friends but there is barely any activity13:59
Nicd-SK_work: I just wanted a native G+ app...13:59
Nicd-and google sure isn't going to make one13:59
intemostly from clients which are simultaniasly posting to twitter, google and facebook14:00
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inteand I already barely use facebook14:00
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SK_workNicd-: I understand the feeling14:00
inteNicd isn't it possible to hook g+ to a (private) twitter account?14:01
intethen you could at least post to g+ through twitter :)14:01
inteim works via xmmp14:02
inteand read it through the mobile website (make a bookmark)14:02
inteshould somehow work14:02
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intebtw. I was talking to someone before my client crashed regarding sync and facebook accounts14:03
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inte`oh noo, sorry that was in jolla mobile14:05
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tortoisedocSK_work : in lipstick-jolla-home there is import com.jolla.lipstick15:14
SK_workyou mean this15:14
SK_workthere are specific imports from different QML modules15:14
tortoisedocseems like there is no plugin for it tho15:14
tortoisedocso maybe some runtime object?15:14
tortoisedoc(i.e. unaccessible)15:15
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SK_worktortoisedoc: why do you want to mess with these plugins btw ?15:18
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tortoisedocSK_work : more tests :P15:26
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SK_worktortoisedoc: we won't be able to help you if you are justdoing tests witout telling anything15:27
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tortoisedocSK_work : define "we" :P15:35
SK_workpeople around that are curious about what you are doing :)15:35
SK_worklike people in this chan15:35
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tortoisedocSK_work; I am exploring possibilities to show quickbar in the event viewer15:44
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SK_worktortoisedoc: I see15:45
tortoisedocunfortunately there is no easy way to do it15:45
tortoisedocwho could know?15:45
tortoisedocspecila : ping?15:45
SK_worktortoisedoc: the events view is already a window15:45
SK_worktortoisedoc: I give you one hint to implement this easily15:45
tortoisedocSK_work : ofc15:45
* tortoisedoc shrugs15:45
SK_workor roll-out your own system patch15:45
tortoisedocpatches :~~~~15:45
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faenilis there any way to sync android gallery with sailfish gallery?15:52
faenilit often happens that when sending pics via android apps, the gallery is not updated with the latest taken pics15:52
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faenilI always have to reboot in such cases :/15:54
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stephgfaenil: I found stopping the dalvik service a couple of times usually sorts it15:56
faenilstephg, most likely, yes15:56
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faenilshould be equivalent...15:56
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faenilbut still15:56
faenilmaybe Stskeeps can check if it's being worked on?15:56
stephgwell if you do a TJC I'll vote ;)15:56
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faenilmmm no it seems he can't :P16:28
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tortoisedocis patchmanager available on harbour?16:49
locusftortoisedoc: no, openrepos only16:50
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tortoisedocthought so, thanks locusf16:51
tortoisedocbtw locusf does glacier work on sailfish emulator as well=16:51
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locusftortoisedoc: I haven't tried, it should work when built for i38616:52
SK_worktortoisedoc: :D16:53
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* tortoisedoc would like to try on emulator first16:55
tortoisedocusing jolla as main dev device, do not want to cause any harm to it atm ^^16:55
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locusfyeah, understood16:55
tortoisedoclocusf : do you have any plans to build it for i386?16:57
locusftortoisedoc: no plans but I could do it for you16:58
tortoisedocI cannot promise anything from our end, we are pretty loaded with bugfixing here atm16:58
tortoisedocbut definitely for the future why not16:58
tortoisedocsounds like an interesting idea16:58
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locusftortoisedoc: I'll do it tomorrow if I remember17:00
tortoisedocok thanks17:00
tortoisedoclocusf : do you know anything about lipstick-jolla-home package?17:01
locusftortoisedoc: only from qml side, no idea about c++17:01
SK_worktortoisedoc: still hunting info about ljh ?17:02
SK_workwhat do you want to know ? :)17:02
tortoisedocSK_work : yes :P17:02
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tortoisedocimport com.jolla.lipstic 0.1 no work on my qml test :/17:03
tortoisedocso I really assume ljh is registering it as run-time class17:03
SK_worktortoisedoc: ah ?17:03
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SK_worktortoisedoc: tell us what you want exactly17:03
SK_workactually I might have an idea17:03
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tortoisedocSK_work : patcher? :P17:04
SK_workstill the launcher in events view ?17:04
SK_worktortoisedoc: nope17:04
SK_worktortoisedoc: maybe you should read code of events view17:04
SK_workI'm afraid it's less easy than in lockscreen17:04
tortoisedocthou who searchet, shall find my friend ;)17:04
SK_workand you might need to use silica to have the gesture detector17:04
tortoisedocusing silica is not necessarily a problem17:04
SK_workor patcher17:05
tortoisedocill take the noeasy_option + silica then17:05
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tortoisedoccodesample kthzbye :P17:05
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Jabbounethi all17:05
tortoisedocthanks SK_work17:05
SK_worktortoisedoc: well17:05
SK_workit is17:05
SK_workin events view I wonder if this is possible17:05
SK_workhi Jabbounet17:06
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tortoisedocim not afraid17:06
SK_worktortoisedoc: you need to be interested by /usr/share/lipstick/eventfeed17:06
SK_workthere are the "events view accounts" widgets17:07
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SK_worktortoisedoc: you need to install an account17:08
SK_workthat provides events view as a service17:08
SK_workand install events view stuff17:08
SK_workbut 'm searching for something else17:08
SK_workone sec plz17:08
tortoisedocyeah I thought of that  - but it requires username / pass=17:08
tortoisedocbut then again17:09
tortoisedocit would make more sense17:09
tortoisedoccause you would be able to automatically activate / deactivate the quickbar through it17:09
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SK_worktortoisedoc: ???17:09
tortoisedoc(automatically === manual)17:09
SK_workit doesn't require username pw17:10
tortoisedocsorry SK_work using this as my brainstorm wall :17:10
SK_workit does require providing an account17:10
SK_workthat's not simple and can easily break17:10
tortoisedocyeah that's what I mean17:10
SK_worktortoisedoc: I have something else17:11
SK_workthough, as you do, I will keep it secret :P17:11
tortoisedocI told you what I needed? :P17:11
SK_workI need to do a POC this week end and OSS it17:11
SK_worktortoisedoc: right, I don't know how this works17:11
SK_workbut I want a GPLv2 on this idea17:11
SK_work(this doesn't sound really good :D)17:12
SK_workanyway, I can tell you17:12
tortoisedochow about a GPL3 then we are all out :P17:12
SK_worktortoisedoc: study /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml/WeatherBanner.qml17:12
M4rtinKgplv2 or above ? :)17:12
tortoisedocalso btw what is used for quickbar is nothing secret17:13
tortoisedocit can be found from the nemo code17:13
tortoisedocotherwise I wouldnt have been able to make it :P17:13
tortoisedoci just am hesitant to tell as it is a complete hack and might stop working17:13
SK_workM4rtinK: GPLv2 or above :D17:13
tortoisedocso its better to let people find it on their own :P17:13
SK_worktortoisedoc: well, bundling ads is not the way to do either :D17:13
SK_workit's not about jailbreak honestly, Jolla don't care if we tweak their UI experience17:14
tortoisedocwhat other way do you give me, Jolla, if u n0 p4id 4pps support :(((17:14
SK_workand if it don't work anymore, then ... there is still patchmanager17:14
SK_worktortoisedoc: donations ?17:14
tortoisedocSK_work : haha17:14
SK_worktortoisedoc: I hate ads17:14
tortoisedoci am considering it17:14
SK_workand if you bundle ads in your apps, I will not use them17:14
SK_workthat's all :P17:15
M4rtinKSK_work: so do I :)17:15
tortoisedocbut then you have the "donate" ad17:15
M4rtinKSK_work: +117:15
tortoisedocwould the donate button be more efficient than ads=?17:15
SK_worktortoisedoc: I had the donate banner after each update of friends, it worked quite well17:15
tortoisedocif I put an donate button17:15
SK_worktortoisedoc: but on patchmanager, it doens 't work17:15
tortoisedocjolla gets no revenue17:15
tortoisedocthe app does most likely not get into harbour17:15
SK_worktortoisedoc: does ads give them revenue ?17:15
tortoisedoc(pretty sure of tha)17:15
M4rtinKDonate button on About page is fine (my apps do that) is fine.17:15
tortoisedocSK_work: good point17:16
SK_workanyway, not about ads or not, but the fact is: if we share Jolla haxx, they won't immediately fix it and lock it down17:16
SK_workJolla is not apple :D17:16
tortoisedocit would be an interesting project to implement i agree17:16
M4rtinKmaybe even some non frequent "what about donating ?" popup17:16
tortoisedocbut by the time it works, most likely jolla has paid app support17:16
M4rtinKanything beyond that is too much in my case17:16
M4rtinKif I wanted adds I would be using Android :P17:17
tortoisedocSK_work : it's not a hack17:17
tortoisedocit's used by jolla17:17
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SK_worktortoisedoc: it is a hack :D17:17
tortoisedocbut as it is not public it might change17:17
SK_workwell, the way you are doing it is a huge hack :P17:17
tortoisedocno it relies on normal properits17:17
tortoisedocnothing strange17:17
tortoisedocno mumbojumbo17:17
SK_worktortoisedoc: just like patches, just like hacking sailfish weather etc.17:17
SK_workthey are all hacks17:17
SK_workwhat I call non-hack is harbour :P17:17
M4rtinKwhat are we talking about actually ?17:18
tortoisedochmm quickbar on n9, THAT was a hack :P17:18
M4rtinKI seem to be missing the context17:18
SK_workM4rtinK: tortoisedoc have a quickbar thing17:18
SK_workthat looks quite nice17:18
tortoisedocM4rtingK quickbar on sailfishos17:18
M4rtinKlike on the N9 ?17:18
M4rtinKwell, the whole thing is QML so why not17:18
SK_workI'm giving him hints on how to implementing it WITHOUT relying on lipstick imports, or gestures etc.17:18
tortoisedocthere is the other point (highlighted on tjc)17:18
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SK_worktortoisedoc: I gave you my best hint btw17:18
tortoisedocand that is that quickbar as it is now (on the lockscreen) is accessible only frm there17:19
SK_workthe WeatherBanner thing17:19
tortoisedocSK_work : thanks17:19
tortoisedocill test it and if it works credit + paypal you17:19
M4rtinKyou could have a Nyan cat video playing on the background using the Video element if you wanted, so why not a N9 bar :)17:19
SK_workM4rtinK: :D17:19
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M4rtinKIIRC it is all in *.qml files present on the device, so anything is possible17:20
tortoisedocNyan cat in the lockscreen w0000t17:20
* tortoisedoc wants that17:21
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SK_workM4rtinK: tortoisedoc don't want to mess with QML files17:21
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SK_workso patchmanager out17:21
SK_workand any qml manipulation thing out17:22
tortoisedocyes i think patching is bad17:22
tortoisedocmuch better with overlays :P17:22
SK_worktortoisedoc: I think it's fun17:22
M4rtinKwell you still need to make it load your qml somehow17:22
M4rtinKbasically adding a single line somewhere17:23
SK_workM4rtinK: WeatherBanner :):)17:23
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locusfSK_work: where is the weatherbanner showing in the ui?17:23
SK_workM4rtinK: in events view, it is basically: exploit WeatherBanner the way it shouldn't17:23
SK_worklocusf: in events17:23
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tortoisedocinteresting concept17:24
tortoisedoci must admit17:24
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M4rtinKwell, yeah if it is broken like this why not use it :)17:25
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M4rtinKand one can patch it if it is fixed needed17:25
SK_worklocusf: cd /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home/qml17:25
SK_workgrep Weather17:25
SK_workyou will see in EventsView a loader using WeatherBanner as a source17:25
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locusfSK_work: yeah I know, thanks17:25
locusfoh that too17:25
M4rtinKstill the ideal solution would be to send a pull request to the Lipstick project for a proper overlay API :)17:25
SK_workif you read logs you even see that Sailfish.Weather 1.0 do not exist17:25
M4rtinKlol, that's quite an oversight & easy to use :)17:26
SK_workso, implement Sailfish.Weather17:26
SK_workimplement SailfishWeather as a QML module and provide what's being used in WeatherBanner17:26
SK_workand ... enjoy17:26
tortoisedocM4rtinK : it would be enough to get a dbus signal17:27
M4rtinKwhy does this remind me of original XBox & Wii homebrew ? :D17:27
tortoisedocSK_work : now THAT is a hack :P17:27
SK_workM4rtinK: tell us more17:27
SK_worktortoisedoc: I have said that this was the ultimate hack17:27
M4rtinKtortoisedoc: yeah, a call to add an overlay module, remove, list registered and maybe change ordering17:27
SK_worksome secret stuff17:28
M4rtinKI remember reading about how people did it17:28
locusftortoisedoc: building i386 packages for you now17:28
tortoisedocSK_work : black magic :P17:28
M4rtinKand there was quite similar stuff - they would load a specific game with a bug and use it to jump to their own code17:28
tortoisedocM4rtinK : nothing too fance17:29
tortoisedocjust a dbus signal17:29
tortoisedocmore than enough17:29
SK_workM4rtinK: :D17:29
tortoisedoctotal freedom to implementer17:29
SK_workM4rtinK: tortoisedoc wonder how your "overlay API" would work17:29
M4rtinKtortoisedoc: or maybe a line in the .desktop file17:29
SK_worknot seeing how this fits in lipstick17:29
M4rtinKparaphrasing: "provides:homescreen/overlay"17:30
SK_worklipstick don't provide any QML stuff17:30
tortoisedocM4rtinK : DBus is the way to go :P17:30
M4rtinKand user would be able to activate/deactivate the given overlay plugin17:30
SK_worktortoisedoc: M4rtinK are your overlays sort of widgets ?17:30
SK_workjust wondering17:30
SK_worknot sure that I understand17:30
M4rtinKI'm thinking - overlay = stuff you can display on the homescreen implemented in a QML file17:31
tortoisedocM4rtinK : even more generally, overlay is something you can draw everywhere at any time17:32
tortoisedocsee for example thp's billboard on n9 :P17:32
tortoisedocthat's most likely some overlay17:32
M4rtinKactually I think there might be multiple layers17:32
* tortoisedoc sees niamcat coming closer...17:33
M4rtinKunder/above the items on the screen17:33
M4rtinKalso each screen could have a separate one17:33
tortoisedocwhat is the event viewer component on nemo?17:34
tortoisedoclocus: awesome17:34
M4rtinKthat reminds me that we really need more stuff making use of the event view17:34
locusftortoisedoc: there is none in any of the FOSS homescreens17:34
M4rtinKright now it is pretty much useless17:34
tortoisedocM4rtinK : exactlu17:35
tortoisedocit is the one screen which gets access from everywhere17:35
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M4rtinKeven if it would just mean cloning the N9 even screen (I've used it a lot)17:35
M4rtinKyeah, quite a shame17:35
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tortoisedocactually from the n9 i love the idea of the status bar17:38
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tortoisedocbut then again17:38
tortoisedocthat's very similar to android17:38
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locusfhmm how did I make mb2 to ignore the shadow building instructions from armv7hl17:38
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locusfalso I'm getting Fatal: Too many spec files - please use -s to identify which one to use17:44
locusfwhen trying to deploy to emulator17:44
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tortoisedoclocusf: you are close :)18:07
locusfyeah I got it now18:07
locusfand running in emulator too18:07
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tortoisedocwow :D18:09
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tortoisedocSK_works : the second option (to replace weatherbanner) is very difficult18:44
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tortoisedocwhere again did i have to look for the gestures..18:55
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tortoisedocpong : special18:56
tortoisedocspecial :pong :P18:56
* special says nothing18:56
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special(because that is the correct response to an unsolicited pong; drop it, continue waiting for other traffic, such as a ping)18:59
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kimmoliis everyone having a bad hair day today ???19:01
kimmolino one is even asking when is the next update ...19:01
Sceltsomeone said early July19:04
* kimmoli just arrived home, cup of tea, relaxing after succesful plasma cutting cnc testing (after 2 hours of emc immunity headbanging)19:04
Sceltit's not July yet. Wait for the first of July and there will be a lot of asking...19:04
kimmoliaa , that explains, late june still19:04
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tortoisedocwhy oh why qtquick2 thou has no gesture module??19:08
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ppor maybe people are just about completely happy with it :-)19:09
tortoisedockimmoli : when is the next update??19:09
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faeniltortoisedoc, I expect within first 7 days of july19:12
tortoisedocyeah :)19:12
tortoisedocnow if I can just understand why my gestures are not working on lockscreen when quickbar is displayed19:13
kimmolitortoisedoc: grrrr :p19:13
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stephggood evening folks20:23
M4rtinKnight! :)20:24
stephggnight M4rtinK!20:27
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ottuloor not /10char20:34
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smokucoderus: LOL22:10
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stephgoh that's curious, my n4 seems to have lost its sim22:44
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