Monday, 2014-08-04

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spiirointbr: libiphb source tree has hbtest3.c that does iphb wakeup + keepalive. but the logic is geared towards making test cases as simple as possible instead of making keepalive stuff as easy as possible.04:50
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spiiroinmight better to make a c library available ...04:52
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tbrspiiroin: I resorted to libiphb.h + test2.c - that was enough o get the concept. still things are contradicting each other there.05:25
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tbriphb_wait2: "Once the socket comes readable, the incoming data must be flushed - iphb_discard_wakeups can be used for this."05:30
tbriphb_discard_wakeups: "This function is private for Qt wrapper."05:31
tbralso iphb_discard_wakeups has half of copy paste from the above "has woken up by some other method than via iphb."05:32
tbrspiiroin: I can file a bug in mer bz, github or JB if that helps, but I don't understand it enough to suggest a patch05:33
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spiirointbr, the data just needs to be read so that select/poll does not deem the fd as readable until next wakeup05:48
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spiiroinbasically it should be only one timestamp that can end up queued, so what that discard wakeup is bit of an overkill05:49
tbrspiiroin: yes, that I understand, but is iphb_discard_wakeups suitable for that or does it actually disable the wakeup as "has woken up by some other method than via iphb." suggests and is it private to Qt or can it be used?05:50
spiiroinIIRC it is just fancy read, should not wakeup other processes (but cancelling a timer could)05:53
* spiiroin checks05:53
spiirointbr: it is just a fancy read; my guess is that is was added for qt aligned timer support, hence the comments05:55
spiiroini.e. no harm from calling it05:55
tbrok, then at least delete the spurious "has woken up by some other method than via iphb." in the .h05:55
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tbrspiiroin: is there a good concept how to not sleep if the device is awake? I somehow haven't figured out anything else than: poll(many-fds,...,1000) - where other fds are e.g. TCP connections.05:59
spiiroinon a closer look: the function blurb probably was copy pasted from iphb_I_woke_up() ... the other process part was left in accidentally05:59
spiirointbr: to stay awake, just start cpu-keepalive session with mce (over dbus)06:00
tbrspiiroin: yes, but how do I know if someone else is keeping the CPU alive?06:00
spiirointbr: the sessions are separate, so you do not need to care about others06:01
tbror should I just pretend to always be sleeping unless I keep it alive myself06:01
* tbr ponders if he should try to come up with some crude python binding for IPHB as he tends to use that a lot06:03
spiiroinI do not understand what "pretend to be sleeping" would be06:03
tbror if such iphb python already exists somewhere, e.g. by thp06:04
tbrspiiroin: don't worry, it's not really important06:04
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smokucoderus: it's a good policy to do clean rebuild for releases anyway ;-)06:26
coderussmoku: :D06:27
smokucoderus: with rpm output parsing you're giving the version installed, not the version running (which in certain circumstances may not be the same)06:28
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smokuthus, I'm for nailing the version into the binary ;-)06:29
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coderussmoku: :D06:29
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entilwhy aren't there any notifications about app comments or have I just screwed something up?06:51
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satmdmy jolla phone failed on me and I missed my wakeup call!07:02
BasilSemuonoventil, maybe caused by recent harbour update?07:04
BasilSemuonoventil, they changed notifications system(or something like that)07:05
HBP_satmd: asking for pin code?07:06
HBP_at least my phone is asking pin code about twice a day07:07
HBP_and asking to select connection method like 10 times a day07:07
entilBasilSemuonov: oh ok, it's not like I'd get a ton of feedback or anything, but there was one I could have reacted to sooner07:07
entilanyway, the shop is nice, and good thing I got flappy bird installed before its mysterious disappearance :D07:08
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tbriekku: I also prodded carsten, but please keep in mind the actions from http://www.merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-07-22-10.03.html during this week. Also actions from previous meetings are probably open.08:17
thptbr: iphb python 3 bindings would be cool if you have the time :)08:17
iekkutbr, :nod:08:18
tbrthp: I suspect as an intermediate step I'll just compile a tiny binary and system() it. But in the long run something without all the fork() etc would be so much better.08:18
iekkutbr, stats are in already btw08:18
tbriekku: noted, yes08:18
* tbr just loves push notifications for IRC hilights that are now reliably delivered to his Jolla! <308:19
thptbr: that the api? https://github.com/nemomobile/libiphb/blob/master/src/libiphb.h -- might even be able to wrap that with a bit of ctypes08:19
tbrthp: correctomundo08:19
iekkutbr, i'm on sick leave, but i will participate to iteration planning to get some things clarified before i start my annual 4 weeks vacation08:20
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tbrthp: I guess for you this will be just a couple of minutes. I'm not the pro so it would take me a lot longer. :)08:20
tbriekku: what are you doing on IRC then, shoo, off you go, get well soon! ;-)08:21
iekkutbr, this is freenode :P08:21
tbrand you work for jolla, the company where people don't understand the concept of free time and sick leave, I know.08:22
iekkutbr, haha08:24
tortoisedocthp : does lpm trigger dbus signals when it goes on / off?08:24
tortoisedoc(it seems at least then enabling / disabling it does)08:25
tortoisedoc*when08:25
iekkutbr, some parts are my hobby too. + i have been using irc almost 20 years now08:25
tbriekku: sure, I know. My point stands though that getting work-life balance right is hard in this context08:26
swlFree time? Sick leave...? Strange words.08:26
thptortoisedoc: should be https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/screenlock/screenlock.cpp#L48 aka lpm_ui_mode_ind from mce on system bus08:26
iekkutbr, but i have been taking it easy08:27
tortoisedocthp : thanks!08:27
iekkutbr, and when not working, i have more time to chat with community ;)08:30
tbr:)08:30
thptbr: what would use use iphb's python bindings for?08:31
tbrthp: I'm working on a push notification service for Sailfish apps. Python is much easier for me than C. It might get rewritten in C ofc later.08:33
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tbrthe MQTT protocol bindings currently seem to use sleep() and that can last much much longer than the intended time and lead to timeouts08:34
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spiirointbr: iphb alone is useless for anything except very brief processing, it really should be combined with keepalive - similarly to nemokeepalive08:50
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tbrspiiroin: yes, I'm trying to figure out if the brief timeslot is enough to handle an incoming message and pass it on. It should be just a few cycles.09:00
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tbrspiiroin: base on how well my crude hack is already working, I'd say it's sufficient09:11
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spiirointbr: if iphb wakeup occurs due to rtc, jolla phone stays on 1-2 seconds. but some of that is lost on resume & ipc & scheduling11:16
tbrI expect that to be plenty, but will ofc have to keep an eye on it.11:17
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gogetasystemd crashed again ....12:06
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tbrthp: seems ctypes was enough. I did a quick patch that added an iphb socket to the select() and currently don't see any timeouts and the ping arrives within a close margin (probably should tweak to shift it).12:52
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thptbr: cool stuff!13:35
tbrthp: to give you an idea - https://gist.github.com/dm8tbr/b36c6afca8904d15027a13:36
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coderuslINUX kERNEL 3.16 WITH >> 80 changes and fixes to Btrfs filesystem16:28
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Morpog_PCsounds like backport time :D16:37
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Hartzimade new backports or closed old ones?16:41
tbrmight want to make sure you can flash your device if you try such a low level thing like btrfs16:41
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Morpog_PCtbr, not fo rme, for Jolla :)16:45
tbrMorpog_PC: there was some major rewrite around 3.8 or 3.10 and backporting beyond that seems to be royal PITA, so I wouldn't expect too much from that16:48
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Morpog_PCdamn, that btrfs stuff really could need some work16:50
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NaranekIs debugging working on the SDK? I've read some messages that say that it isn't, but they've been written some time ago.18:25
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tbrdid anyone notice a problem recently with connman losing connection to wifi?18:41
tbrfor me it gets in a state where it only has IPv6 local connectivity18:41
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xcv_has anybody tried to port GHC or a modern version of GCC/Clang (good C++11 support)?19:02
xcv_I'd like to write some application but I'm too used to C++11 features19:03
torotisedocxcv_ : having clang support in jolla would be cool19:03
lukedirtwalker+119:03
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torotisedocxcv_  : i suggest you talk into #mer19:04
torotisedocwhich is where it would end up in19:04
xcv_oh, wrong channel19:04
xcv_thanks19:04
torotisedocsailfishos would then be able to inherit it :)19:04
torotisedocnp :)19:04
torotisedocnow back to qml'ing19:04
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walokrais there some way to get the version of sailfishos to qml?20:06
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lukedirtwalkerwalokra: you can try if sailfish-version in spec/yaml and QMakeOptions helps with this trick: https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.sailfishos.org/msg04764.html20:11
lukedirtwalkerbut propably it won't work20:12
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lukedirtwalkerwalokra: or just look at about.qml in /usr/share/jolla-settings/pages/about20:18
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walokralukedirtwalker: k, will see20:21
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walokraseems like too much hassle20:29
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intei seem to have a problem with system sounds in terms that they seem to crash21:30
inteno sounds at all21:31
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coderusinte_away: reboot didnt helped? :)22:08
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