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spiiroin | tbr: libiphb source tree has hbtest3.c that does iphb wakeup + keepalive. but the logic is geared towards making test cases as simple as possible instead of making keepalive stuff as easy as possible. | 04:50 |
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spiiroin | might better to make a c library available ... | 04:52 |
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tbr | spiiroin: I resorted to libiphb.h + test2.c - that was enough o get the concept. still things are contradicting each other there. | 05:25 |
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tbr | iphb_wait2: "Once the socket comes readable, the incoming data must be flushed - iphb_discard_wakeups can be used for this." | 05:30 |
tbr | iphb_discard_wakeups: "This function is private for Qt wrapper." | 05:31 |
tbr | also iphb_discard_wakeups has half of copy paste from the above "has woken up by some other method than via iphb." | 05:32 |
tbr | spiiroin: I can file a bug in mer bz, github or JB if that helps, but I don't understand it enough to suggest a patch | 05:33 |
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spiiroin | tbr, the data just needs to be read so that select/poll does not deem the fd as readable until next wakeup | 05:48 |
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spiiroin | basically it should be only one timestamp that can end up queued, so what that discard wakeup is bit of an overkill | 05:49 |
tbr | spiiroin: yes, that I understand, but is iphb_discard_wakeups suitable for that or does it actually disable the wakeup as "has woken up by some other method than via iphb." suggests and is it private to Qt or can it be used? | 05:50 |
spiiroin | IIRC it is just fancy read, should not wakeup other processes (but cancelling a timer could) | 05:53 |
* spiiroin checks | 05:53 | |
spiiroin | tbr: it is just a fancy read; my guess is that is was added for qt aligned timer support, hence the comments | 05:55 |
spiiroin | i.e. no harm from calling it | 05:55 |
tbr | ok, then at least delete the spurious "has woken up by some other method than via iphb." in the .h | 05:55 |
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tbr | spiiroin: is there a good concept how to not sleep if the device is awake? I somehow haven't figured out anything else than: poll(many-fds,...,1000) - where other fds are e.g. TCP connections. | 05:59 |
spiiroin | on a closer look: the function blurb probably was copy pasted from iphb_I_woke_up() ... the other process part was left in accidentally | 05:59 |
spiiroin | tbr: to stay awake, just start cpu-keepalive session with mce (over dbus) | 06:00 |
tbr | spiiroin: yes, but how do I know if someone else is keeping the CPU alive? | 06:00 |
spiiroin | tbr: the sessions are separate, so you do not need to care about others | 06:01 |
tbr | or should I just pretend to always be sleeping unless I keep it alive myself | 06:01 |
* tbr ponders if he should try to come up with some crude python binding for IPHB as he tends to use that a lot | 06:03 | |
spiiroin | I do not understand what "pretend to be sleeping" would be | 06:03 |
tbr | or if such iphb python already exists somewhere, e.g. by thp | 06:04 |
tbr | spiiroin: don't worry, it's not really important | 06:04 |
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smoku | coderus: it's a good policy to do clean rebuild for releases anyway ;-) | 06:26 |
coderus | smoku: :D | 06:27 |
smoku | coderus: with rpm output parsing you're giving the version installed, not the version running (which in certain circumstances may not be the same) | 06:28 |
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smoku | thus, I'm for nailing the version into the binary ;-) | 06:29 |
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coderus | smoku: :D | 06:29 |
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entil | why aren't there any notifications about app comments or have I just screwed something up? | 06:51 |
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satmd | my jolla phone failed on me and I missed my wakeup call! | 07:02 |
BasilSemuonov | entil, maybe caused by recent harbour update? | 07:04 |
BasilSemuonov | entil, they changed notifications system(or something like that) | 07:05 |
HBP_ | satmd: asking for pin code? | 07:06 |
HBP_ | at least my phone is asking pin code about twice a day | 07:07 |
HBP_ | and asking to select connection method like 10 times a day | 07:07 |
entil | BasilSemuonov: oh ok, it's not like I'd get a ton of feedback or anything, but there was one I could have reacted to sooner | 07:07 |
entil | anyway, the shop is nice, and good thing I got flappy bird installed before its mysterious disappearance :D | 07:08 |
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lainwir3d | hi | 07:41 |
SK_work | hji lainwir3d | 07:43 |
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tbr | iekku: I also prodded carsten, but please keep in mind the actions from http://www.merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-07-22-10.03.html during this week. Also actions from previous meetings are probably open. | 08:17 |
thp | tbr: iphb python 3 bindings would be cool if you have the time :) | 08:17 |
iekku | tbr, :nod: | 08:18 |
tbr | thp: I suspect as an intermediate step I'll just compile a tiny binary and system() it. But in the long run something without all the fork() etc would be so much better. | 08:18 |
iekku | tbr, stats are in already btw | 08:18 |
tbr | iekku: noted, yes | 08:18 |
* tbr just loves push notifications for IRC hilights that are now reliably delivered to his Jolla! <3 | 08:19 | |
thp | tbr: that the api? https://github.com/nemomobile/libiphb/blob/master/src/libiphb.h -- might even be able to wrap that with a bit of ctypes | 08:19 |
tbr | thp: correctomundo | 08:19 |
iekku | tbr, i'm on sick leave, but i will participate to iteration planning to get some things clarified before i start my annual 4 weeks vacation | 08:20 |
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tbr | thp: I guess for you this will be just a couple of minutes. I'm not the pro so it would take me a lot longer. :) | 08:20 |
tbr | iekku: what are you doing on IRC then, shoo, off you go, get well soon! ;-) | 08:21 |
iekku | tbr, this is freenode :P | 08:21 |
tbr | and you work for jolla, the company where people don't understand the concept of free time and sick leave, I know. | 08:22 |
iekku | tbr, haha | 08:24 |
tortoisedoc | thp : does lpm trigger dbus signals when it goes on / off? | 08:24 |
tortoisedoc | (it seems at least then enabling / disabling it does) | 08:25 |
tortoisedoc | *when | 08:25 |
iekku | tbr, some parts are my hobby too. + i have been using irc almost 20 years now | 08:25 |
tbr | iekku: sure, I know. My point stands though that getting work-life balance right is hard in this context | 08:26 |
swl | Free time? Sick leave...? Strange words. | 08:26 |
thp | tortoisedoc: should be https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/screenlock/screenlock.cpp#L48 aka lpm_ui_mode_ind from mce on system bus | 08:26 |
iekku | tbr, but i have been taking it easy | 08:27 |
tortoisedoc | thp : thanks! | 08:27 |
iekku | tbr, and when not working, i have more time to chat with community ;) | 08:30 |
tbr | :) | 08:30 |
thp | tbr: what would use use iphb's python bindings for? | 08:31 |
tbr | thp: I'm working on a push notification service for Sailfish apps. Python is much easier for me than C. It might get rewritten in C ofc later. | 08:33 |
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tbr | the MQTT protocol bindings currently seem to use sleep() and that can last much much longer than the intended time and lead to timeouts | 08:34 |
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spiiroin | tbr: iphb alone is useless for anything except very brief processing, it really should be combined with keepalive - similarly to nemokeepalive | 08:50 |
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tbr | spiiroin: yes, I'm trying to figure out if the brief timeslot is enough to handle an incoming message and pass it on. It should be just a few cycles. | 09:00 |
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tbr | spiiroin: base on how well my crude hack is already working, I'd say it's sufficient | 09:11 |
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spiiroin | tbr: if iphb wakeup occurs due to rtc, jolla phone stays on 1-2 seconds. but some of that is lost on resume & ipc & scheduling | 11:16 |
tbr | I expect that to be plenty, but will ofc have to keep an eye on it. | 11:17 |
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gogeta | systemd crashed again .... | 12:06 |
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tbr | thp: seems ctypes was enough. I did a quick patch that added an iphb socket to the select() and currently don't see any timeouts and the ping arrives within a close margin (probably should tweak to shift it). | 12:52 |
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thp | tbr: cool stuff! | 13:35 |
tbr | thp: to give you an idea - https://gist.github.com/dm8tbr/b36c6afca8904d15027a | 13:36 |
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coderus | lINUX kERNEL 3.16 WITH >> 80 changes and fixes to Btrfs filesystem | 16:28 |
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Morpog_PC | sounds like backport time :D | 16:37 |
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Hartzi | made new backports or closed old ones? | 16:41 |
tbr | might want to make sure you can flash your device if you try such a low level thing like btrfs | 16:41 |
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Morpog_PC | tbr, not fo rme, for Jolla :) | 16:45 |
tbr | Morpog_PC: there was some major rewrite around 3.8 or 3.10 and backporting beyond that seems to be royal PITA, so I wouldn't expect too much from that | 16:48 |
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Morpog_PC | damn, that btrfs stuff really could need some work | 16:50 |
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Naranek | Is debugging working on the SDK? I've read some messages that say that it isn't, but they've been written some time ago. | 18:25 |
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tbr | did anyone notice a problem recently with connman losing connection to wifi? | 18:41 |
tbr | for me it gets in a state where it only has IPv6 local connectivity | 18:41 |
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xcv_ | has anybody tried to port GHC or a modern version of GCC/Clang (good C++11 support)? | 19:02 |
xcv_ | I'd like to write some application but I'm too used to C++11 features | 19:03 |
torotisedoc | xcv_ : having clang support in jolla would be cool | 19:03 |
lukedirtwalker | +1 | 19:03 |
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torotisedoc | xcv_ : i suggest you talk into #mer | 19:04 |
torotisedoc | which is where it would end up in | 19:04 |
xcv_ | oh, wrong channel | 19:04 |
xcv_ | thanks | 19:04 |
torotisedoc | sailfishos would then be able to inherit it :) | 19:04 |
torotisedoc | np :) | 19:04 |
torotisedoc | now back to qml'ing | 19:04 |
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walokra | is there some way to get the version of sailfishos to qml? | 20:06 |
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lukedirtwalker | walokra: you can try if sailfish-version in spec/yaml and QMakeOptions helps with this trick: https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.sailfishos.org/msg04764.html | 20:11 |
lukedirtwalker | but propably it won't work | 20:12 |
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lukedirtwalker | walokra: or just look at about.qml in /usr/share/jolla-settings/pages/about | 20:18 |
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walokra | lukedirtwalker: k, will see | 20:21 |
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walokra | seems like too much hassle | 20:29 |
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inte | i seem to have a problem with system sounds in terms that they seem to crash | 21:30 |
inte | no sounds at all | 21:31 |
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coderus | inte_away: reboot didnt helped? :) | 22:08 |
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