Monday, 2014-08-11

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m4g0gHello04:14
m4g0gReferenceError: mnemosyManager is not defined - how it can be if before setting qml file I have view->rootContext ()->setContextProperty ("mnemosyManager", new Mnemosy::MnemosyManager (view));04:14
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m4g0ghello07:43
SK_workhi m4g0g07:45
m4g0gCan I use QDomDocument and QXmlQuery or not?07:50
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SK_workm4g0g: yes07:53
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SK_workm4g0g: see https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/blob/master/allowed_libraries.conf#L3407:56
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m4g0gI have strange problem07:58
m4g0ghttp://codepad.org/hitfc4KR07:59
m4g0gWhy I get [W] unknown:37 - file:///usr/share/harbour-mnemosy/qml/harbour-mnemosy.qml:37: ReferenceError: mnemosyManager is not defined07:59
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m4g0gI have done all properly but it complains ^-(08:00
SK_workm4g0g: easy08:00
SK_workdid you load your main.qml file BEFORE setting property ?08:00
SK_workm4g0g: and btw, you should better use qmlregisteruncreatabletype08:01
tbrgood morning everyone, I'm looking for more people to review the TOR package submission to Sailfish Chum: https://build.merproject.org/request/show/67408:01
SK_work!rtfm qmlregisteruncreatabletype08:01
MerbotSK_work: Error: "rtfm" is not a valid command.08:01
DevBotSK_work: Error: "rtfm" is not a valid command.08:01
qtassistantSK_work: QQmlEngine Class | QtQml 5.3 - http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qqmlengine.html#qmlRegisterUncreatableType08:01
m4g0gSK_work: no. I load it after setting contextPropery08:01
SK_workm4g0g: ^08:01
SK_workm4g0g: hum ...08:01
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SK_worktry to use qmlregisteruncreatabletype nevertheless08:02
m4g0gsee link. Part of code there08:02
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tbrI'm particularly concerned with the use of the root account by the bits and scripts added on top of the source code08:02
SK_workm4g0g: wondering08:03
SK_worktbr: I can take a look but I'm really not good at reviewing system packages08:03
m4g0gThe most strange: there is no the same problem in other project with the same behaviour08:04
tbrSK_work: thanks, please comment the item with your thoughts.08:04
SK_worktbr: first point: creating as root folders in /home/nemo (for browser proxy)08:05
tbrSK_work: the whole concept of operating as root is very very conerning08:05
SK_worktbr: fact: tor runs as root08:06
SK_workas a service08:06
SK_workand won't run without this08:06
tbrSK_work: I'm not convinced this is necessary. Would only be if it e.g. tries to bind to a priviledged port (<1024)08:08
SK_worktbr: true ...08:08
SK_workwonder if it can be made to run as user easily08:08
SK_worktbr: honestly, I think that it's just a system daemon (just like tor on desktop)08:09
SK_workallowing it to run as root don't bother me that much08:09
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tbrSK_work: if it doesn't have to, it won't run as root. Same for the scripts that are there.08:19
m4g0gThere are no any suggestion instead of qmlregisteruncreatabletype ? Is it normal way for sending c++ object to qml?08:19
SK_worktbr: true though ...08:19
SK_workm4g0g: sending a global (registered property) qobject can be done via registeruncreatabletype08:20
SK_workand is cleaner, as the engine takes care of creting the global type08:20
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m4g0gbut I need fullfunctional c++ object which can work independently from qml but qml will call methods from this class08:21
SK_workm4g0g: so you need to link those "global" qobjects with C++ code ?08:22
SK_worktell me more about your arch ?08:22
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SK_workm4g0g: ie how you organize your app08:23
m4g0gI understand. qml - only gui. This manager - only one class qml has access to. this manager do all other works: calling network requests, preparing models, reading settings and etc.08:24
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m4g0git aggregate some special classes such as XmlRPC class for api, models, etc08:25
SK_workdoes this manager communicates with other objects created in main, or does it creates objects on it's own ?08:25
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SK_workif the latter, qmlregisteruncreatable is enough, if the former, maybe consider registering qml types08:25
m4g0gSK_work: 2. It create objects inside itself08:25
SK_workm4g0g: go for qmlregisteruncreatable08:26
m4g0gthe most interesting thing: i can't even send string or bool variable via contextPropery to qml08:26
SK_workif 1., I would ask you to use qmlregister to register all types in qml, and then, use qml to create them08:27
SK_workm4g0g: hum ...08:27
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SK_workcan you console.debug(property) inside main.qml08:27
SK_worknot inside any Silica stuff ?08:27
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m4g0gno08:29
m4g0ghttp://codepad.org/47lcz0um08:30
m4g0gthere is no console.log string in output08:30
SK_workm4g0g: use Component.onCompleted: console.debug(something)08:31
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m4g0gI can't see in output even qDebug () << Q_FUNC_INFO08:32
m4g0gSK_work: is not defined in Component.onCompleted08:34
SK_workm4g0g: hum08:35
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SK_workuse ssh to check ?08:35
m4g0ghttp://codepad.org/LwsKPeY208:38
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m4g0gthe same08:38
m4g0gI am trying to create project from very beginning08:39
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tortoisedochmm08:41
tortoisedochttps://together.jolla.com/question/53056/jolla-and-the-first-ones-hk-vips/08:41
tortoisedocinteresting topic, but nonetheless - is community only about "closed clubs"?08:41
tortoisedoc(maybe not only )08:42
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tortoisedochas the winner of the vip box already been announce?08:52
tortoisedoc*announced08:52
tortoisedocthe competition ended on aug 9 right?08:53
m4g0gSK_work: Recreating project fixed all08:56
SK_workm4g0g: Oo08:56
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tortoisedocm4g0g : maybe your .pro file was missing CONFIG +=sailfishapp  ?08:58
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m4g0gtortoisedoc: no08:58
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carepack_hello sailors08:59
m4g0gdeveloping - it is a magic. One more prove of it08:59
tortoisedocno magic ;) only logic09:02
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coderusis there upower sources i can recompile and use in  jolla&09:47
coderus?09:47
Stskeepsmer-packages/upower on github09:50
Stskeepsi think09:50
* tbr finds a binary without source, called 'runasroot' in the TOR package SR. It's like saying 1==2 in an elevator: wrong on so many levels.09:52
coderushttps://github.com/mer-packages/upower/ ?09:53
coderusis it compatible with jolla without additional patches?09:53
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Naranektbr: considering what TOR is, that's extrabad. how hard would it be to sandbox it and see what it does?10:12
m4g0gcoderus: hi10:14
tbrNaranek: it just needs to be done properly10:14
m4g0gYou gave me wonderful pdf with code snippets. Can you share this link again?10:14
tbrNaranek: the packager seems to think they need root for something10:15
tbrNaranek: yes, the irony of shipping a root backdoor with the TOR package is not lost on me. I rejected the SR and asked the packager to address this.10:15
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Naranekyeah, I was just wondering if it's malicious or just stupid10:40
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pp_:-)10:41
pp_where? would love to take a look :D10:42
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pp_qemu-arm or whatnot probably would run it with limited ability to do anything bad10:45
Naranekhttps://build.merproject.org/request/show/67410:45
pp_deleted already :(10:46
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pp_spec file looks awful :-)10:54
pp_some clever setcap usage would be much much better10:54
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Naranekok... in that case it's probably safe to rule out malice ;)11:07
tadzikthat's what they want you to think :>11:07
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tbrpp_: deleted as I pressed the wrong button and accepted it to testing. :/11:27
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pp_fedora tor seems to be happy to run as toranon :-)11:27
tbrbtw: is tor in his OR repo? if so then people might now have a nice backdoor on their phones11:28
pp_https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/tor yes11:30
tbrI don't think it's malice. It's just really clumsy working around some restriction or problem11:30
tbralso tor itself probably does run as nemo11:30
tbrit's the helper script to switch the browser proxy which uses a 'runasroot' binary11:30
tbrthe problem is if that doesn't do super strict checking, then it is just "runasroot /bin/sh" to elevate to root and that's bad.11:31
pp_looks like the script might be hardcoded11:32
tbrI'd rather see the original issue addressed properly and cleanly than even deliberate on usage of such11:32
tbrin the SR there was only a binary of runasroot and that disqualifies it for chum from the getgo11:33
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pp_[pp@the bin]$ qemu-arm -L ~/sftor  runasroot fffdfdfg11:38
pp_sh: /etc/tor/tor.sh: No such file or directory11:38
tbrok, at least some thought then11:42
tbrI wonder why he thinks being root is necessary11:42
pp_   cp /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/tor-off.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/8611:43
pp_x86/apps/tor.png11:44
pp_I'd guess some dbus/systemd/qml love required11:44
tbrcouldn't that be accomplished by a symlink and a file in a non-priviledged location?11:44
pp_...11:48
pp_[pp@the sftor]$ qemu-arm -L `pwd` usr/bin/runasroot  ;/bin/ls11:48
pp_sh: /etc/tor/tor.sh: No such file or directory11:48
pp_etc  home  lib  usr  var11:48
pp_ok, it is bad11:48
tbrgnnnnnnn11:49
pp_hmn except did I escape properly :D11:51
pp_(no I did not, shame on me :P )11:52
tbrif done 'properly' it doesn't take _any_ arguments11:52
tbrbut still...11:52
pp_yea, it doesn't, uses state=`cat /etc/tor/tor-switch`11:52
pp_(quick glance was that it does take 0/1/*)11:53
tbrif there would have been sources for that...11:53
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BasilSemuonovtbr - ask niel at twitter12:01
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coderusm4g0g: https://sailfishos.org/presentations/qtdevdays_beijing_2013_jpetrell.pdf ?12:02
m4g0gcoderus: thx12:04
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tbrBasilSemuonov: done already when I found this12:37
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tuukkahmy jolla seems to have bricked itself :-( rootfs fails to mount and btrfsck aborts. any recovery instructions for a case like this?15:19
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tbrtuukkah: boot into recovery or did you do that already?15:25
tuukkahtbr, yes, that's where i tried the mount and the btrfsck (and the menu entries)15:25
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tbrtuukkah: you're in HVT30, right? Might want to ask a friendly sailor to have a look and visit their office next to the university. I used to do that exact walk quite often.15:27
tbrsounds like a reflash, btw15:27
tuukkahtbr, what's HVT30?15:28
tbrtuukkah: oh, not based in tampere then. The tampere digia office is in Hattanpään Valtatie 30. (so was my desk at tieto)15:30
tuukkahi see :-) no, i'm in helsinki15:30
tbrsomehow I put you into the tampere box, dunno15:30
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tbrthen it's either friendly sailor contact or giving it to care15:31
tuukkahat least i've been to events in tampere sometimes :-)15:31
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tuukkahluckily, recovery menu seems to consist of GPLv2 shell scripts, even if google can't find them16:16
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tbrhmmm, interesting16:21
tbrI wonder if they are in the tarball I always get from jolla/Stskeeps16:22
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tuukkahfiles include: /usr/bin/{recovery-menu{,-devicelock,-flash},restore-lock} /var/lib/platform-updates/{flash-bootimg-sbj.sh,flash-platform-images-sbj.sh}16:26
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tuukkahalso /usr/sbin/flash-partition16:27
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HBP_for some weird reason Transfers (for browser) is under Settings but how can I access it without downloading something?16:49
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tbrARRRRRRRRGH17:22
tbr"I'm too lazy to figure out how to not be a major security risk, so I'll not bother with the minimum review level of Chum, but stick to OR" (not an actual statement, but how I read the attitude that I just got...)17:23
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locusfso chum as official foss beta channel is not happening?17:25
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tbrlocusf: it is happening. It will happen faster if people can be arsed to do proper packaging. This is the first instance where someone fails all sorts of basic checks.17:27
tbrsuid-root for no sensible reason, but just out of convenience, no sources for a random binary, etc17:27
locusfoh ok17:28
tbrthis is the very reason why OR will _never_ come anywhere near my device17:28
tbrIt makes the barrier of entry so low that trash _will_ happen. It's not an question of 'if' anymore.17:28
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tbrjolla store is inflexible for good reasons, chum should be far more flexible, but not a security risk. people need to be able to trust it and Jolla needs to be able to trust it if we want to get something from them like preconfigured repositories in dev mode or such17:30
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locusfthis might sound perverse but has anyone managed to get their Jolla to behave as an Android device target? So that you can use the Android SDK's to run Android .apk's on Jolla?18:06
tbrinteresting thought. I'd avoid messing with USB, but you could try running adbd over network18:07
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HBP_tbr: what is OR?18:09
locusfopenrepos18:09
tbraliendalvid does have an adbd binary on device18:09
locusfand Jolla has adb mode enabled, its just hidden from users18:09
locusfall my android devices are configured to run sailfish now so thats why I asked :)18:10
Stskeepslocusf: maay be possible to start AD's adb but our adb mode has nothing to do with it18:11
locusfStskeeps: ah ok18:12
Stskeepsmight work though18:12
* tbr suspected and thus suggested networked adb18:12
locusfnice, lemme try that18:15
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locusfhmm although my devel Jolla has Android Support its impossible to launch apps from Glacier homescreen as they crash for some reason18:16
Morpog_PCah thats a showstopper18:17
locusfterminal and browser also crash with hwcomposer restart18:18
locusftbr: where is the adbd?18:18
tbr/opt/alien/system/root/sbin/adbd is what I found18:18
locusfactually https://together.jolla.com/question/6289/how-do-i-connect-to-android-with-adb-or-send-shell-commands/18:19
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tbr:)18:19
tbrsurprise18:20
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lukedirtwalkerHm has anyone ever had that messages from 2 contacts are in one conversation, (they share the same fixnet number)19:42
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smokuany hints where to get cheapo TOH to experiment with?20:26
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camporezMaybe http://www.flypig.co.uk/toh/specials.html ?20:29
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smokucamporez: thanks. exactly what I was looking for :)20:34
camporezYou're welcome :)20:35
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kinezo\q21:30
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