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coderus | tortoisedoc: ping | 05:21 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: did you checked my last request? | 05:21 |
tortoisedoc | coderus : sorry, not really - which request? | 05:22 |
tortoisedoc | been extremely busy :/ | 05:22 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus : where did you have the request, here on irc? | 05:24 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: please check PowerMenuDialog { z: 4 } without reparenting | 05:24 |
tortoisedoc | coderus : ok I will :) | 05:24 |
coderus | how to compare rpm versions? | 05:25 |
tortoisedoc | does reparenting cause problems? | 05:25 |
coderus | should i make my own algo or its already here? | 05:25 |
tortoisedoc | rpm might have something? | 05:25 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc: tortoisedoc a lot of patching work and i'm not sure about users | 05:25 |
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coderus | best way will be removing current version and installing update | 05:26 |
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coderus | but mixed installing one verion for other will cause problems | 05:26 |
tortoisedoc | coderus : i assume you are now talking about rpm in general? or do you refer to powermenu | 05:27 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: rpmdevtools have something, but it's not available in jolla/nemo/mer repos | 05:27 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus : port it :P | 05:27 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: about powermenu | 05:27 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: i dont want | 05:27 |
tortoisedoc | im sure Stskeeps will be happy :D | 05:27 |
coderus | i want algo for comparing versions or already done tool for this | 05:27 |
tortoisedoc | coderus : but if the patch to lipstick is one liner, and it contains the parenting, what is the problem? | 05:28 |
coderus | problem is upgrading | 05:29 |
coderus | and downgrading if user too stupid | 05:29 |
tortoisedoc | uh oh | 05:29 |
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tortoisedoc | that is life with patches :/ | 05:29 |
coderus | better way will be just chenging PowerMenuDialog.qml | 05:29 |
tortoisedoc | aah | 05:29 |
tortoisedoc | and set z in powermenudialog.qml? | 05:29 |
coderus | yes | 05:29 |
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coderus | layerParent isn't available from that qml | 05:30 |
tortoisedoc | yes | 05:30 |
coderus | so i'm asking if it working with just z property | 05:30 |
tortoisedoc | need to test :/ | 05:30 |
tortoisedoc | might be, might not be | 05:30 |
coderus | well, if not i have an idea now | 05:30 |
tortoisedoc | lol | 05:30 |
tortoisedoc | what idea | 05:30 |
coderus | i can reparent it dynamically with findCHild thru parent :) | 05:30 |
tortoisedoc | hmm | 05:31 |
tortoisedoc | actually | 05:31 |
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tortoisedoc | that is not a bad idea :) | 05:31 |
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coderus | i just hope z: 4 will be enough :P | 05:32 |
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tortoisedoc | :P | 05:36 |
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tortoisedoc | there might be a chance it actually will be enough | 05:36 |
tortoisedoc | but who knows | 05:36 |
tortoisedoc | other option is for powermenu to detect if quickbar is installed and in that case not display in full screen but leave some space at the bottom for quickbar ? | 05:37 |
tortoisedoc | coderus * | 05:37 |
tortoisedoc | coderus : ^ | 05:37 |
tortoisedoc | (installed & running, that is) | 05:37 |
tortoisedoc | I can make a dbus api for that | 05:38 |
tortoisedoc | but z:4 is definitely preferrable :P | 05:38 |
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lpotter | checking out qtbase is painful | 05:43 |
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tortoisedoc | lpotter : checking out qt in general is painful :P | 05:48 |
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tortoisedoc | but luckily you usually end up finding what you need (at least to my exp) | 05:48 |
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coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.3-2 minor bugfix released: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 06:00 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: i'm sure you need to make option to display quickbar on powermenu or not :) | 06:00 |
tortoisedoc | coderus : yes ofc | 06:01 |
coderus | and just make that f**ng quickbar declarative component | 06:01 |
tortoisedoc | I was actually also thinking to give possibility for user to tell how it should be displayed | 06:01 |
tortoisedoc | lol | 06:01 |
coderus | i will just load it to quickbar :) | 06:01 |
tortoisedoc | remember however, normal notifications will also not be displayed on top of powermenu unless z is fixed | 06:02 |
tortoisedoc | :| | 06:02 |
tortoisedoc | so it is not only a problem for quickbar | 06:02 |
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lpotter | tortoisedoc: whats more painful is compiling it:) | 06:12 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc: powermenu designed to be on top of everything | 06:13 |
coderus | if os stuck you should be able to call powermenu anyway | 06:13 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus : the fact powermenu is below notifications does not mean it's not on top of other stuff, no? | 06:14 |
tortoisedoc | also, if os stuck -> lipstick stuck -> powermenu stuck? | 06:15 |
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coderus | os stuck != lipstick stuck :) | 06:15 |
tortoisedoc | :D | 06:15 |
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tortoisedoc | define os stuck :P | 06:15 |
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coderus | something other tnak lipstick stuck :P | 06:17 |
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tortoisedoc | :D | 06:17 |
tortoisedoc | so app stuck === os stuck? | 06:17 |
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tortoisedoc | ;) | 06:17 |
coderus | sure | 06:17 |
cameris | morning | 06:18 |
tortoisedoc | moin | 06:18 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus : shouldnt patching be able to handle upgrades? | 06:19 |
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tortoisedoc | i.e. recognize previous patches etc | 06:19 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc: previous patches? :D | 06:19 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus: recognize presence of previous patches and handle accordingly? :P | 06:20 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc: yes i did that, but it's not handy and dangerous. don't want to release it. | 06:24 |
coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/powermenu/commit/05199da7f5730ad13a90d4f56e879fd2aa3cf8a8 | 06:24 |
tortoisedoc | there will always be a chance to have a conflict as long as patches are involved | 06:25 |
tortoisedoc | even without z setting, if something is manipulated, it might break updates | 06:28 |
tortoisedoc | work computer not recognizing phone ;_; | 06:29 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus : im afraid without the parent it won't cut it | 06:33 |
tortoisedoc | yeah | 06:34 |
tortoisedoc | parent is needed | 06:34 |
coderus | ok | 06:36 |
coderus | i will reserve space when, waiting for your api | 06:37 |
tortoisedoc | hmm perhaps reparenting could work? | 06:37 |
tortoisedoc | it is worth a try at least? | 06:37 |
tortoisedoc | I can try for you if you want, but it will have to wait until later today :P | 06:37 |
tortoisedoc | wow usb connection is blazing fast compared to wifi | 06:39 |
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stephg | morning | 06:44 |
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tortoisedoc | coderus : ^ | 06:46 |
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tuba | vilken modell var din telefon | 07:10 |
tuba | sorry, wrong channel | 07:11 |
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tobbe_ | morning all sailors! | 07:22 |
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Armadillo | tobbe_: morning | 07:25 |
HereAGoat | hey | 07:26 |
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HereAGoat | In sailfish is any dialog looked like a " pop-up dialog"? | 07:28 |
HereAGoat | I'm trying to port cocos2d-x game engine for sailfish , and sailfish's dialog looked different, so | 07:28 |
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Armadillo | Sailfish UI has no popup dialog in the classic meaning I think | 07:30 |
Armadillo | what do you want to realize with the popup? | 07:30 |
stephg | if it's out of app, then a notification, if it's in-app, er, I dunno | 07:31 |
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HereAGoat | it's in-app. If a dialog show with full screen , it will cover the game view scene | 07:32 |
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Armadillo | you should try the UI element demo to try out which UI element fits your needs | 07:33 |
HereAGoat | yes, I had tried ,and no | 07:33 |
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HereAGoat | maybe, does a pulldown menu can show a Multiple lines object ? | 07:35 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc: use DockedPaned or Drawer | 07:48 |
HereAGoat | oh yeah ! a popup panel with a label and a button | 07:48 |
coderus | oopw wrong highlight | 07:48 |
coderus | HereAGoat: ^^ | 07:48 |
HereAGoat | thank U ;) | 07:49 |
coderus | DockedPanel* | 07:49 |
SK_work | morning \o/ | 07:50 |
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tortoisedoc | :D | 07:59 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: i'll check it ofc. asap. | 07:59 |
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Wnt | I built the sailfish-browser from master for armv7hl using these instructions: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/wiki/BuildingInstructions | 10:37 |
Wnt | when trying to install the result rpm (sailfish-browser-1.1.12-1.armv7hl.rpm) on the device I get an error "Fatal error: nothing provides nemo-qml-plugin-policy-qt5 >= 0.0.4 needed by sailfish-browser-1.1.12-1.armv7hl" | 10:37 |
Wnt | Do I need to add a repository to the device to get it installed? | 10:38 |
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coderus | Wnt: no, you need to build it yourself too :) | 10:39 |
Wnt | I can see binaries for that in http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/mw/latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 10:40 |
Wnt | is it safe to run "ssu ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/mw/latest_armv7hl/ nemo-latest-mw" on the device? | 10:41 |
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Wnt | I guess that would then provide it for the package manager? | 10:41 |
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coderus | Wnt: sure its safe unless you do upgrade with this repo enabled :) | 10:43 |
coderus | but you can just grab rpm | 10:44 |
Wnt | yeah, I just installed that one single RPM and now have the new browser running on the device :) | 10:44 |
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coderus | Wnt: which branch did you build? | 10:58 |
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King_DuckZ | hello, anybody knows how to see at what time a missed call was received? | 11:01 |
King_DuckZ | like somebody called me, I opened the page where all the in/out calls are logged | 11:02 |
King_DuckZ | and I called the person back, but then the log didn't show at what time I received his call, instead it was showing at what time I tried to call back | 11:03 |
King_DuckZ | how do I get to the missed call registry? | 11:03 |
tbr | you can get that. IIRC someone had a "patch" for that | 11:04 |
tbr | might be in SK_work's stuff | 11:04 |
King_DuckZ | I also have a problem with the media player, I've put 3 songs on my phone, and a load of songs on the memory card - the 3 songs on the phone are displayed with their info and cover, all the others are mixed up in "all songs", though I'm sure at some point they were also sorted by album | 11:05 |
King_DuckZ | tbr: what's SK_work? | 11:05 |
King_DuckZ | ah the dev branch maybe? | 11:06 |
Wnt | King_DuckZ: I have used this: https://together.jolla.com/question/3464/show-complete-call-log/#post-id-26946 | 11:06 |
Wnt | coderus: master | 11:06 |
King_DuckZ | I haven't seen any update so far, I thought the development was frozen | 11:07 |
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King_DuckZ | Wnt: thanks, I'm having a look | 11:08 |
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coderus | Wnt: apply text selection and search branches :) | 11:15 |
artemma | Stskeeps: ping | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | artemma: pong | 11:16 |
artemma | Stskeeps: did you get endurance reports link yesterday? | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | artemma: yes, arrived home from finland last night so am catching up to everything now | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | will dl it | 11:16 |
artemma | ok | 11:16 |
King_DuckZ | nobody's having the same issue I have with the multimedia app? | 11:17 |
Stskeeps | getting myself a test device atm | 11:17 |
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King_DuckZ | hm I just plugged the memory into my pc, I think the filesystem got damaged, somehow | 11:19 |
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ttttkl | does anyone else lose conenction to server quite regularly? forgot to copy/paste the error msg, really annoying, using webchat.freenode in FF32 beta (OSX). | 11:41 |
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Armadillo | hobana.freenode.net was stable the last hours, but sometimes I'm experiencing disconnects, too | 11:43 |
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juke | how does sailfishos show what the current mobile network type is? i tried using 3 different qt-APIs in c++ but none of them work | 11:51 |
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juke | QNetworkInfo returns garbage, so does QNetworkConfiguration | 11:52 |
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juke | is there some dbus API i can use? | 11:53 |
locusf | there is a qml bit you might wanna take a look at | 11:53 |
King_DuckZ | something's wrong with the multimedia app imo | 11:54 |
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King_DuckZ | I've re-copied my music (mixed ogg/mp3/flac) onto my vfat memory card, now /some/ albums are shown properly, the rest is under "all songs", all mixed up | 11:55 |
King_DuckZ | the player also thinks they all have a duration of 00:00 | 11:55 |
King_DuckZ | but they play fine | 11:56 |
locusf | http://pastie.org/9509929 | 11:56 |
coderus | juke: QNetworkConfigurationManager::ConfigurationChanged(QNetworkConfiguration) signal | 11:56 |
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juke | coderus, thanks i'll try that. QNetworkConfigurationManager::defaultConfiguration().bearerType() is not working | 11:57 |
juke | also i'm pretty sure that QNetworkConfigurationManager does not know about LTE BearerType | 11:59 |
juke | yes, just checked, qnetworkconfiguration.h does not have LTE in BearerType enum | 12:00 |
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Aciid | get juked | 12:03 |
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coderus | juke: so what type it have at LTE? | 12:14 |
coderus | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qnetworkconfiguration.html | 12:15 |
coderus | have BearerLTE | 12:15 |
coderus | ;) | 12:15 |
juke | but isn't the current jolla phones 4.8? | 12:15 |
Stskeeps | no, 5.1 | 12:16 |
Stskeeps | soon 5.2 | 12:16 |
juke | it says unknown | 12:16 |
coderus | ]LOL[ | 12:16 |
coderus | devs doesn't know on whichplatform they developing :') | 12:16 |
juke | my build box doesn't know the type to have BearerLTE | 12:17 |
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juke | SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/include/qt5/QtNetwork/qnetworkconfiguration.h | 12:18 |
coderus | so, just check on device what value returning when LTE connected :) | 12:18 |
juke | it says unknown | 12:18 |
coderus | just compile and check value :) | 12:19 |
juke | i did, it returns BearerUnknown | 12:19 |
coderus | ah | 12:20 |
coderus | so, you can decide for now BearerUnknown is LTE :) | 12:20 |
coderus | with Qt 5.2 it will be BearerLTE :) | 12:20 |
juke | when's that? | 12:20 |
coderus | everybody hope update 9 | 12:21 |
faenil | at least according to the released roadmap for up9 :D | 12:22 |
juke | ok, it seems that even the status icon doesn't understand lte, so it's probably using the same API | 12:26 |
juke | so nevermind, i'll be waiting for update 9 | 12:27 |
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King_DuckZ | is there an update planned then? I was expecting more updates tbh | 12:36 |
faenil | King_DuckZ: they promised updating once a month | 12:36 |
King_DuckZ | on the average pc distro you get weekly updates | 12:36 |
King_DuckZ | faenil: ok | 12:36 |
faenil | and they're keeping the promise with a 1week delay on avg | 12:36 |
Nicd- | they also said they would have a break during the summer | 12:36 |
Stskeeps | King_DuckZ: yeah, but pc distros rarely do deep qa | 12:36 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:37 |
faenil | so I think they're doing good | 12:37 |
King_DuckZ | faenil: ok, that explains why I haven't seen any update yet | 12:37 |
cos- | i think the current delay is because of summer holidays | 12:37 |
cos- | they shouldn't let developers keep them | 12:37 |
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King_DuckZ | I've only had my phone for 6-7 weeks now | 12:38 |
cos- | oh, ok. during spring they released (almost) once in month | 12:38 |
Stskeeps | cos-: it's either summer holidays or somebody going postal.. :P | 12:39 |
faenil | King_DuckZ: August update was skipped (as planned) because of summer holidays, otherwise, you should get an update every 2nd week of a month (usually) | 12:39 |
King_DuckZ | so they have a roadmap? | 12:39 |
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King_DuckZ | nice | 12:40 |
cos- | it's posted on mailing list | 12:40 |
faenil | King_DuckZ: not really...let me explain | 12:40 |
faenil | the promise is: once a month you'll get an update | 12:40 |
faenil | then, halfway through an update development they post a "features to be expected in the next update" mail on mailinglist | 12:40 |
faenil | that's it :) | 12:41 |
King_DuckZ | what's the website where you can find the mailing list address, the irc channels and all the info? | 12:41 |
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ttttkl | >.> https://sailfishos.org/community.html Also see footer of that page | 12:43 |
ttttkl | side-note: that page is prolly overdue for a big overhaul, like the one done recently for jolla.com... | 12:45 |
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chem|st | is there something like kismet around in mer/nemo/sfos? | 13:08 |
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coderus | i really want to see sources of this app: https://openrepos.net/content/ovekaaven/scumstopper | 13:57 |
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coderus | Mitakuuluu happy anniversary! 200 issues at bugtracker! | 14:18 |
faenil | congrats! :) | 14:19 |
nazanin | coderus: you're the mitakuuluu developer? | 14:20 |
Nicd- | nazanin: you didn't know? | 14:20 |
nazanin | nope | 14:20 |
coderus | no, i'm just following its bugtracker | 14:21 |
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King_DuckZ | what's that? some boat? http://svmitakuuluu.blogspot.co.uk/ | 14:22 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: this one: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2 | 14:23 |
King_DuckZ | http://mita-kuuluu.com/ | 14:23 |
King_DuckZ | ah a chat client | 14:24 |
King_DuckZ | hmm what does the name stand for? | 14:25 |
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Nicd- | "Mitä kuuluu?" is "What's up?" in Finnish | 14:25 |
King_DuckZ | oh... I thought it was an acronym | 14:25 |
King_DuckZ | or something | 14:25 |
coderus | does anyone have some example project using telepathy-qt ? | 14:26 |
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Nicd- | King_DuckZ: that's a loooong acronym | 14:27 |
kimmoli | just MK ? | 14:27 |
King_DuckZ | idk, I'd use a name people would understand... iono, whatsdown, or chatup or something | 14:29 |
King_DuckZ | Nicd-: well, I'm not used to see two u together in a word that is not an acronym :) | 14:29 |
King_DuckZ | seeing* | 14:29 |
King_DuckZ | I'll try it btw, but it's not on the store, right? | 14:30 |
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kimmoli | on openrepos only | 14:31 |
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till | i guess finnish ppl do understand :) | 14:34 |
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kimmoli | imho better than "persecute" | 14:35 |
tadzik | at least it's cute | 14:35 |
kimmoli | ass-söpö ? | 14:36 |
King_DuckZ | ah that's easy | 14:36 |
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King_DuckZ | an ass that makes you sleepy | 14:36 |
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King_DuckZ | so about this openrepos, it looks very complicated... how would a non-technical person install something from there (assuming he/she ever learns such a thing exists)? | 14:38 |
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kimmoli | browse there with jolla, download the RPM, click to transfers (e.g. from Notifications) click on file, allow it to install. (works if no dependencies needed) | 14:39 |
kimmoli | or install the OR application (?) i have never used that so i dont know... | 14:39 |
kimmoli | was it called warehouse? | 14:40 |
King_DuckZ | https://openrepos.net/content/basil/about-openrepos I thought there wasn't one? | 14:40 |
King_DuckZ | oh maybe I saw that, hold on | 14:40 |
coderus | install this: https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse-sailfishos | 14:41 |
King_DuckZ | nope, I didn't | 14:41 |
coderus | and you can browse openrepos, install apps, receive update notifications and remove apps :) | 14:41 |
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King_DuckZ | how comes none of this is on the official repo? | 14:42 |
Nicd- | because they use APIs that are not allowed on the store | 14:42 |
kimmoli | some is also there, so is not allowed due harbour rules, some are not as they are "beta" | 14:43 |
kimmoli | tjsp | 14:43 |
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King_DuckZ | shouldn't this be more advertised? | 14:44 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: everybody know openrepo | 14:45 |
coderus | isnt it? | 14:45 |
King_DuckZ | it sounds as if they're fragmenting a repo that is already tiny, compared to android at least, and if I wasn't here today looking at the room at that particular moment I wouldn't know either | 14:45 |
King_DuckZ | not me | 14:46 |
King_DuckZ | where is it linked from? | 14:46 |
Nicd- | King_DuckZ: openrepos is not by jolla, that is why jolla does not advertise it | 14:46 |
Nicd- | it is purely a community project | 14:46 |
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King_DuckZ | it won't let me install it, I get something like "untrusted software disabled" | 14:48 |
kimmoli | settings of jolla | 14:48 |
Nicd- | you need to enable it in settings | 14:48 |
King_DuckZ | ah found | 14:49 |
kimmoli | i think this is "typical" lifecycle: TMO > dropbox RPM links > OpenRepos (> Jolla store if pass Harbour QA) | 14:49 |
King_DuckZ | wth it says if I enable that I'll void my warranty | 14:49 |
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Nicd- | King_DuckZ: it *may* void warranty | 14:50 |
nieldk | Need some assistance in first attempts creating a flashable system image for Jolla device, see http://pastebin.com/hD34Zuua | 14:50 |
Nicd- | it means that if you install software that bricks the phone by using root permissions to do evil stuff, it will not be covered | 14:50 |
tbr | because it enables you to do very dumb things with your phone that will render it unrecoverable by you | 14:50 |
tbr | and openrepos is _the_ prime location if you are looking to break your phone. At least by what you hear. *snerk* | 14:51 |
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King_DuckZ | but how can I tell if whatever I install from there won't brick my phone? or even the openrepos itself? | 14:51 |
Nicd- | you can't | 14:51 |
tbr | you can not | 14:51 |
ln- | btw, there is/was some app in harbour, which requires command line to uninstall. how did that pass QA? | 14:51 |
Nicd- | you can only trust the people that wrote the software | 14:52 |
tbr | ln-: did you complain? | 14:52 |
ln- | tbr: i didn't, but i also didn't install it... the removal instructions were in its description. | 14:52 |
tbr | o.O | 14:52 |
Aard | ln-: which app? | 14:52 |
coderus | nieldk: adding zeroes to the end of file while it is multiple of bs ? | 14:52 |
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coderus | King_DuckZ: read commets | 14:53 |
Nicd- | ln-: I think you mean Quickbar beta, it no longer requires you to use the CLI to uninstall | 14:53 |
nieldk | coderus: thought of that, but that would possibly give issues when flashing back to device | 14:54 |
ln- | can't remember its name, but it could have been Quickbar | 14:54 |
King_DuckZ | it doesn't make any sense, I may decide to install makalulu 'cause you guys look trustworthy, but I can't imagine non-techies going through that | 14:54 |
King_DuckZ | it should be somehow endorsed by jolla | 14:54 |
coderus | nieldk: img2simg should take care of it, no? | 14:54 |
Nicd- | I agree, they should work with coderus to make mitakuuluu harbour-approved | 14:54 |
tbr | King_DuckZ: want to have endorsed by jolla, use the jolla store aka harbour | 14:54 |
Nicd- | but this is how it is currently | 14:54 |
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King_DuckZ | admittedly ppl who jailbreak their stuff install random crap that anonymous ppl are tossing at them... but iono | 14:55 |
nieldk | codderus: Not sure, will try it later | 14:55 |
coderus | i can make it harbour-approved, but i wont, because it will lose many nice features then :) | 14:55 |
kimmoli | mäkälulu ... i just choked on pulla | 14:55 |
locusf | :D | 14:56 |
nazanin | ln-: afaik there was one app with which had this problem and it's been a long time since it's fixed | 14:56 |
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King_DuckZ | coderus: what kind of feature they would reject? why would they want you to trim down your code? | 14:56 |
ln- | nazanin: still, how did it pass QA? | 14:57 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: i mean if i rewrite mitakuuluu to fir harbour rules | 14:58 |
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coderus | many features like camera, location, autostart, led notifications, background daemon, dbus service are not approved | 14:59 |
coderus | you will get just an app you can use if it launched. | 14:59 |
kimmoli | hmm. just-chat-mitäkuuluu, would it be called "morjens" ? | 14:59 |
tbr | or "moro" | 15:00 |
King_DuckZ | hm I see | 15:01 |
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nieldk | kimmoli: what would useless be in Finnish | 15:01 |
King_DuckZ | and is it possible to write something that integrates into sailfish like xmpp does? | 15:01 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: sure | 15:01 |
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kimmoli | nieldk: turhanpäiväinen | 15:02 |
coderus | as soon as sailfish conversations will support MUC and give access to roster :) | 15:02 |
King_DuckZ | coderus: would that be against their rules as well? | 15:02 |
coderus | also features like attachments and extra toolbars will be nice to have | 15:02 |
Aard | King_DuckZ: integrating there would be done by doing a telepathy-provider | 15:03 |
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coderus | King_DuckZ: same, it will require private api anyway | 15:03 |
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King_DuckZ | yeah, that's what I'm thinking also... is it possible atm to send pictures through xmpp? | 15:03 |
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Nicd- | kimmoli: I think hyödytön would be better | 15:03 |
tbr | coderus: there are several things that would benefit from open sourcing the messaging app | 15:03 |
tbr | coderus: MUC being one of them, certainly | 15:03 |
nieldk | coderus: I think your openrepos version have been proven accepted by people ;) sad that it cant be accepted for harbour, but oh well | 15:03 |
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coderus | tbr: sure, we're waiting for it | 15:03 |
tbr | I intend to poke that topic on the next meeting | 15:04 |
tbr | nothing happens if you don't push it around here | 15:04 |
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nazanin | ln-: at that time,when the quickbar app was submitted to Store, it was rejected in the beginning, the developer fixed so many issues and stated how you can quit the app... so at that stage it got approved but I asked him directly to put a qui option for quiting the app | 15:04 |
coderus | nieldk: no exceptions :) | 15:04 |
nazanin | Aard: ? | 15:04 |
Aard | nazanin: I was waiting for the answer :p | 15:04 |
King_DuckZ | well I can see why they don't want you to run daemons at boot, it might slow down the phone and increase battery usage, and it's a huge opportunity to install crapware that you can't close easily | 15:05 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: sure | 15:05 |
ln- | nazanin: okay | 15:05 |
coderus | i even pushed sources to obs and chum and everywhere | 15:05 |
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coderus | but nobody is interested :) | 15:05 |
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coderus | and then my webhook from git to obs broken and nobody helped me to fix it | 15:07 |
coderus | and now my obs account is useless | 15:07 |
nieldk | coderus: wow, that sucks | 15:07 |
tbr | there was a SR to chum of mitakuulu? I don't remember that | 15:08 |
coderus | tbr: yes just right after i registered to chum and you witk SK helped me to setup webhook | 15:08 |
coderus | i pushed up-to-date version and you approved it | 15:09 |
coderus | and then my webhook was broken | 15:09 |
Aard | lbt: where are we with rolling out the new webhooks version with acls? | 15:09 |
coderus | SK tried to help me | 15:09 |
* King_DuckZ is so tired today | 15:09 | |
coderus | but cant | 15:09 |
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kimmoli | obs is too hard to use imho | 15:09 |
kimmoli | or to setup | 15:09 |
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tbr | coderus: ah, ok | 15:10 |
coderus | kimmoli: well, setup just did once, and webhooks | 15:10 |
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coderus | then you just push new tag and it build your project | 15:10 |
kimmoli | yes i know. i have lots of small apps | 15:10 |
tbr | kimmoli: for me it was very easy to use, especially if the app was "harbour ready" | 15:11 |
kimmoli | i just wanted to be able to setup weboohk myself | 15:11 |
tbr | I mostly either just use git service or upload a source tarball (from upstream) | 15:12 |
Aard | kimmoli: the software for that has been ready for >2 months, it's just waiting for deployment on mer infrastructure | 15:12 |
kimmoli | Aard: i have heard yes | 15:13 |
kimmoli | but once you get to topic, one needs to complain :P | 15:13 |
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kimmoli | I made decision back then, that my projects/apps use only spec, and i can build them either on obs or with sdk... | 15:14 |
kimmoli | why is the yaml there anyway? yet-another... | 15:14 |
Aard | no comment on the yaml from me in public :p | 15:14 |
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coderus | i'm removing yaml every time :D | 15:21 |
coderus | probably it should be very usable gui for yaml in qtc | 15:22 |
coderus | but it sucks and removed for mow :D | 15:22 |
coderus | for now * | 15:22 |
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kimmoli | now the sdk supports windows CRLF .spec too, i have removed yaml from my project template too | 15:24 |
coderus | yaml fo noobs | 15:24 |
coderus | every should know spec | 15:24 |
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King_DuckZ | what's wrong with yaml? I find it pretty cool | 15:28 |
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King_DuckZ | what do you use instead? | 15:28 |
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King_DuckZ | btw guys, I'm working on a doodle jump clone https://bitbucket.org/King_DuckZ/clooneljump which I'd like to port to sailfish at some point | 15:34 |
King_DuckZ | it shouldn't be too hard as it already builds and run on arm | 15:35 |
King_DuckZ | if anybody wants to help with that... :) | 15:35 |
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coderus | King_DuckZ: using spec of course :) | 15:44 |
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King_DuckZ | coderus: http://www.spec.org/ ? | 15:47 |
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coderus | http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-build-creating-spec-file.html | 15:53 |
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King_DuckZ | it looks very specific to that purpose, it's not an alternative to yaml | 15:56 |
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lbt | Aard: not started on that yet | 16:04 |
coderus | really? :D rpm build from spec, it generates from yaml :D | 16:04 |
coderus | (in case of sailfish template project) | 16:05 |
lbt | coderus: yeah we know .. "I'm an expert, I can code in assembler, C is for wusses" | 16:05 |
lbt | same thing for spec/yaml | 16:05 |
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coderus | yaml is just less features spec | 16:05 |
lbt | *I* don't need it now I learned it so it's crap | 16:05 |
coderus | less featured* | 16:05 |
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lbt | coderus: and that's bad because? | 16:05 |
coderus | i see no reason why it should be used | 16:05 |
lbt | I see no reason C should be used instead of asm .. it's less featured | 16:06 |
coderus | i never write it is crap | 16:06 |
coderus | just i'm not using it :) | 16:06 |
lbt | yep - but I get fed up with "it's not right for me and my use case so it's no good" arguments | 16:06 |
lbt | totally selfish | 16:06 |
coderus | << i'm removing yaml every time :D << probably it should be very usable gui for yaml in qtc << but it sucks and removed for now :D | 16:07 |
coderus | my position | 16:07 |
* lbt bets that most spec files that 'experts' write could be improved by running spec2yaml and then specify :) | 16:08 | |
King_DuckZ | lbt: you don't code in assembler, you code in assembly :) the assembler takes your assembly and assembles it ;) | 16:08 |
lbt | I use butterflies ;P | 16:08 |
King_DuckZ | coderus: I thought you were talking about general case | 16:08 |
King_DuckZ | lbt: nice, I've got a shortcut in vim for that :p | 16:09 |
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* lbt worships M- | 16:09 | |
kimmoli | i'm out of my league here, but i get rid of yaml, as sdk did self-edit it every time you opened project, which made git dirty | 16:10 |
* kimmoli knows how to exit vim, nano and emacs, and notepad. enough for CV ? | 16:10 | |
lbt | kimmoli: sdk handling of yaml sucks for sure - and that annoyed the hell out of me and ruined a great design | 16:10 |
Armadillo | I only had this before the plain text editability of the yaml file | 16:11 |
kimmoli | yes, iirc it was solved by removing editing "gui" | 16:11 |
Armadillo | yep | 16:12 |
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kimmoli | out of curiosity, what and where is this spec2yaml ? i can found it from this channel logs 12/2013 | 16:21 |
kimmoli | http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2013-12-10.log.html#t2013-12-10T15:03:10 | 16:21 |
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lbt | kimmoli: part of the spectacle package | 16:26 |
kimmoli | ... i was just checking what *spec* *yaml* packages there are... | 16:27 |
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kimmoli | aa spec2spectacle | 16:29 |
kimmoli | Error <spec2spectacle>: Input spec file is a spectacle generated one, do NOT convert it again. | 16:29 |
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kimmoli | it did insert bugs to the freshly created spec | 16:43 |
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kimmoli | is the googletalk/hangout voice call partially implemented? | 16:53 |
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kimmoli | my mom tried to call be through gtalk, and i dont have mic, so called via cellphone back to her, and phone said "call already going on" (or something else lost in translation) | 16:54 |
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kimmoli | ah, nothing. i just pressed the dial button twice in a row | 16:59 |
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cariveri | Hi. heard of this OS. what phone could I have for it? | 17:04 |
SK_work | hi cariveri | 17:06 |
SK_work | the best way to get it is to buy a Jolla | 17:07 |
SK_work | there is an initiative to bring it to Android phones | 17:07 |
SK_work | Nexus 4 do have testing images | 17:07 |
SK_work | Nexus 5 port is in a good shape | 17:07 |
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cariveri | how much opensource is sailfishos ? | 17:08 |
SK_work | cariveri: not fully | 17:08 |
SK_work | but quite a bit | 17:08 |
SK_work | most base and middleware is | 17:08 |
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SpeedEvil | Has anyone asked about sailfish on Samsung Gear S yet? :) | 17:09 |
cariveri | that would have been great. | 17:09 |
SK_work | you got the glibc, gcc, qt for gui, and a lot of middleware (sms management phone, photos, etc.) | 17:09 |
SK_work | the UI is not opoensource | 17:09 |
SK_work | some apps are being opened too: the browser is oss, as well as the office document viewer | 17:09 |
SK_work | SpeedEvil: ask Stskeeps he got something IIRC | 17:09 |
SK_work | cariveri: the fact is that it is really an open community. As the base OS is quite open (kernel aside, and drivers) | 17:10 |
cariveri | SK_work: ok thanks. Ill look up jolla. | 17:10 |
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tigeli | cariveri: shop.jolla.com | 17:10 |
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SK_work | you have people who do hacks, people who enhance the middleware etc. | 17:10 |
SK_work | and the community welcome this quite much :) | 17:11 |
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cariveri | thanks. | 17:17 |
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Naranek | Can I bind a ListModel inside another ListModel so that it's not a copy of the original but a reference | 18:07 |
Naranek | so that if I change a value in the original model, it's also updated inside the other model | 18:07 |
coderus | Naranek: only in qt | 18:14 |
coderus | as proxy model | 18:14 |
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Naranek | ok. thanks. | 18:34 |
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Naranek | ListModel.get() docs include a warning, that The returned object is not guaranteed to remain valid. | 18:57 |
Naranek | how should I reference model parts in JS if I want them to remain valid? | 18:58 |
coderus | just dont get values while it changing :) | 18:58 |
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coderus | QMediaRecorder error: "Recording permissions are not available" | 19:00 |
coderus | lol | 19:00 |
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coderus | can't record video when calling :D | 19:00 |
Naranek | that might be it. I'm using timers to update the data periodically, and the whole model is built with duct tape and get-functions | 19:01 |
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coderus | use Qt :) | 19:06 |
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Naranek | yeeaaaah... I probably should | 19:08 |
Naranek | I'm just waiting for python support | 19:09 |
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coderus | python is for python stuff | 19:13 |
coderus | afaik there are no good listmodel from python to QML | 19:14 |
coderus | listmodel is Qt bindings anyway | 19:14 |
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tortoisedoc_ | coderus : any luck with the reparenting? | 19:30 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc_: ah, forgot about it | 19:31 |
coderus | some minutes :) | 19:31 |
tortoisedoc_ | coderus : :P | 19:33 |
tortoisedoc_ | coderus : no worries, fighting currently with layout orientation | 19:35 |
coderus | tortoisedoc_: also: eventsLayer not working with quickbar? | 19:37 |
tortoisedoc_ | eventsLayer? | 19:39 |
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tortoisedoc_ | coderus : eventsLayer? | 19:39 |
tortoisedoc_ | as parent you mean? | 19:39 |
coderus | yes yes | 19:44 |
tortoisedoc_ | heh | 19:46 |
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tortoisedoc_ | eventsLayer : not tested, one sec | 19:47 |
tortoisedoc_ | need to revert to workable version of quickbar :/ | 19:48 |
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tortoisedoc_ | grrr | 20:01 |
tortoisedoc_ | child woke up, sorry coderus will have to wait : | | 20:01 |
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coderus | tortoisedoc_awk: http://paste.kde.org/phiahlhin | 20:32 |
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