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| piggz | https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/506564275050397696 | 05:34 | 
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| tortoisedoc | jee update? :P | 06:38 | 
| Nicd- | no | 06:38 | 
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| Scelt | mushroommushroom | 06:39 | 
| Nicd- | every time you ask if the update is out, Stskeeps delays it for a day | 06:39 | 
| Stskeeps | well, i'd say aard instead | 06:39 | 
| cameris | whats coming in the next update? | 06:39 | 
| Nicd- | then they all laugh in their lair of evil | 06:39 | 
| Nicd- | at least that's what I love to imagine :D | 06:39 | 
| Nicd- | cameris: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/004939.html | 06:40 | 
| aard_ | cameris: biggest change is moving to qt5.2 | 06:40 | 
| aard_ | which is a lot of fun | 06:40 | 
| cameris | thx | 06:40 | 
| Nicd- | also devs have to fix their dialogs apparently. have to check if my app explodes | 06:40 | 
| tbr | Nicd-: broken backwards compatibility? unpossible! | 06:42 | 
| cameris | Fix to WLAN disconnect issue while roaming due to RSN IE mismatch. yay! | 06:43 | 
| * tbr is still unsure of the newer connman fixes his wifi problems. something fubared the wifi stack, again | 06:44 | |
| cameris | is there a screenshot off how the new dialog page will look? | 06:44 | 
| pp_ | :-) I always associate the wlan RSN with "This stuff will work properly really soon now" | 06:44 | 
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| Nicd- | tbr: I'm not angry about it, I know BC breaks have to happen. it was merely an observation | 06:45 | 
| pp_ | it was introducted in 2005ish and it's still like that for the more complex stuff, even on mainstream OS's :-) | 06:45 | 
| tortoisedoc | badgerbadger | 06:47 | 
| tortoisedoc | Nicd- : whoa that will increase the chances to get a bugfree update, excellent :P | 06:47 | 
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| stephg | morning folks | 07:12 | 
| Stskeeps | morn stephg | 07:12 | 
| stephg | hey Stskeeps how's life, the research and everything? :) | 07:12 | 
| Stskeeps | it's good | 07:12 | 
| Stskeeps | doing some system level work atm though | 07:12 | 
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| stephg | satisfying-solving-problems or pulling-your-hair-out | 07:13 | 
| Stskeeps | a bit of both. but that's what i like | 07:13 | 
| stephg | well you gotta roll with the punches, personally I'm waiting for BT to turn up to reconnect my phone after the builders seem to have damaged the line | 07:13 | 
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| Naranek | can I use the built in icon-m-backspace.png in my app, or will is result in rejection in harbour? | 08:29 | 
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| stephg | Naranek, depends what you mean by use? | 08:34 | 
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| stephg | if you packaged it then you may be breaching its copyright but I doubt they'd actively look for that | 08:34 | 
| stephg | if you just make reference to it in your code at it's original path it'd be fine no? | 08:35 | 
| Naranek | I was thinking of making a reference. | 08:35 | 
| Naranek | technically it's not an issue, but it still might not be allowed | 08:36 | 
| stephg | I don't think they'd be looking for it | 08:37 | 
| Naranek | I'd rather use it instead of a custom icon, because custom backspace would be more confusing for the user | 08:37 | 
| stephg | yeah | 08:37 | 
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| Wnt | Naranek: I have used a icon that is in the same directory as the icon you were wondering about and my application passed the harbour QA: https://github.com/Wnt/PlanningPoker/blob/master/qml/pages/CardPage.qml | 09:16 | 
| Wnt | line 21 | 09:16 | 
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| kimmoli | Naranek: yes, recommended to use sailfish theme icons, iconSource: "image://theme/icon-m-...." | 09:40 | 
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| Naranek | thanks guys :) | 09:46 | 
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| cameris | following TextField is inside a delegate: http://pastebin.com/v9Ki4AS1 . Can anyone tell me why it is always errorHighlighted until I completly erase the number (count). | 09:52 | 
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:02 | 
| Stskeeps | dzien dobry | 10:03 | 
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| zGrr | :) | 10:04 | 
| Stskeeps | good to see more jolla users in poland | 10:04 | 
| zGrr | Stskeeps: I don't have a Jolla yet. | 10:05 | 
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:05 | 
| zGrr | Stskeeps: I'm planning to buy one. | 10:06 | 
| Stskeeps | alright, any info you'd like? | 10:06 | 
| zGrr | I'm still on N900 and N9. N900 is my primary phone yet. | 10:06 | 
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| zGrr | I'd love to have HW keyboard. | 10:07 | 
| Stskeeps | currently there's some community projects ongoing | 10:07 | 
| zGrr | I heard of them. | 10:07 | 
| Stskeeps | i used to love hw keyboard too but i don't use it as much anymore.. | 10:07 | 
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| zGrr | Never had enough time to follow them and migrate my N9. | 10:08 | 
| kimmoli | cameris: do you need more to IntValidator { bottom: 1 } than just bottoms? this is 0 not alloved? | 10:08 | 
| zGrr | I would prefer just to buy Jolla. | 10:08 | 
| flux | yeah, I too only miss it whenever I need to write stuff. | 10:08 | 
| zGrr | I need to have two pieces of software on my handset. | 10:09 | 
| kimmoli | jolla vkb is kinda ok, only issue is that i want to use english dictionary with finnish layout | 10:09 | 
| zGrr | Cisco client and x3270. | 10:09 | 
| zGrr | Cisco is easy, I guess. | 10:09 | 
| Stskeeps | well, if it's available under android.. | 10:09 | 
| zGrr | x3270 might be much more dificult. | 10:09 | 
| Stskeeps | are you speaking VPN client though? | 10:09 | 
| zGrr | Yup. | 10:10 | 
| zGrr | I don't think it is available for the Android. | 10:10 | 
| Stskeeps | mm, should be possible with a bit of manual setup perhaps | 10:10 | 
| Stskeeps | we do have connman | 10:10 | 
| Stskeeps | was it available under n900/n9? | 10:10 | 
| zGrr | It was community project on Freemantle anyway. | 10:10 | 
| cameris | kimmoli: 0 and lower not allowed. top is default to max of int. | 10:10 | 
| zGrr | It was working well on Freemantle. | 10:11 | 
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| Stskeeps | got a link to what was in use there? | 10:12 | 
| tbr | both the vpnc and the openconnect clients should work. Making them cooperate with connman is probably an exercise left to the user. | 10:12 | 
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| pp_ | x3270 might be interesting yea, I'd assume it uses something like athena widgets or whatnot | 10:13 | 
| zGrr | It should also be easy to compile it for incepted N9 | 10:13 | 
| zGrr | Actually i have a question. | 10:13 | 
| zGrr | How open is Sailfish? | 10:14 | 
| zGrr | do you need some sort of inception? | 10:14 | 
| zGrr | Or is it fully open? | 10:14 | 
| zGrr | nope | 10:14 | 
| Stskeeps | you can get full root with no inception through developer unlock, and unlock the bootloader in recovery mod | 10:14 | 
| Stskeeps | e | 10:14 | 
| Stskeeps | err, developer mode, that is | 10:14 | 
| zGrr | old fashioned xlib | 10:15 | 
| tbr | which obviously means it's after that also open to shoot yourself in the foot | 10:15 | 
| Stskeeps | zGrr: also note we're a wayland based device.. | 10:15 | 
| zGrr | It looks like it was taken straight from the 1970ties | 10:15 | 
| zGrr | Of course. | 10:15 | 
| zGrr | I know that. | 10:15 | 
| zGrr | is it possible to run something like easydebian on it? | 10:15 | 
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| Stskeeps | probably, but nobody has done Xwayland yet | 10:16 | 
| zGrr | wayland is still in it's early stage. | 10:17 | 
| zGrr | It will come earlier or later. | 10:17 | 
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| zGrr | I will probably order Jolla soon. | 10:18 | 
| zGrr | Is there a sailfish os port for virtualbox or vmware? Just to have a look? | 10:19 | 
| pp_ | yea, just get the sdk | 10:19 | 
| stephg | zGrr, the sdk has an emulator | 10:19 | 
| zGrr | ... and possibly port 3270 emulator. | 10:19 | 
| zGrr | Great little piece of software. Much better than any of its bloated commercial alternatives. | 10:20 | 
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| tortoisedoc | 3270 emulator? | 10:26 | 
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps, zGrr : full root access is currently not granted in harbour tho | 10:26 | 
| Stskeeps | of course, it's a user thing | 10:27 | 
| Stskeeps | not an app thing :P | 10:27 | 
| tortoisedoc | (only " limitation") | 10:27 | 
| tortoisedoc | yes but if zGrr plans to release on harbour and finds out at the end, he might be disappointed :P | 10:27 | 
| tortoisedoc | (finds out he cannot due to root elevation) | 10:27 | 
| tortoisedoc | so better mention it now | 10:27 | 
| tortoisedoc | and mention also there is openrepos :P | 10:28 | 
| zGrr | aha | 10:28 | 
| zGrr | :) | 10:28 | 
| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 10:28 | 
| kimmoli | c3270 (curses version) on fingerterm ? | 10:29 | 
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : is the ppp package currently in mer not supporting ppp? | 10:29 | 
| Stskeeps | err.. we have a ppp package? | 10:29 | 
| tortoisedoc | d'oh xD | 10:30 | 
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?expand=0&file=disable-vpnplugins-vpnc-and-pptp.patch&package=NetworkManager-kde&project=home%3Awonko%3Apa-networkmanagement-tests&rev=637d541ae1a02887c89f57f85a66f98e | 10:30 | 
| tortoisedoc | this one :P | 10:30 | 
| Stskeeps | no clue | 10:30 | 
| tortoisedoc | ack :/ | 10:30 | 
| tortoisedoc | I was just wondering if it there is a particular reason for it not being present or it is just missing | 10:30 | 
| Stskeeps | well | 10:31 | 
| pp_ | pptp requires ppp requires complexity? | 10:31 | 
| Stskeeps | well, more like not packaged | 10:32 | 
| tortoisedoc | ok, so it is just missing :) | 10:32 | 
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| tortoisedoc | i'd love to have pptp support on my jolla | 10:32 | 
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| tbr | tortoisedoc: package and submit to chum, simple. | 10:36 | 
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| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : chum? | 10:45 | 
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| tbr | https://build.merproject.org/project/show/sailfishos:chum:1.0.8.19:testing | 10:53 | 
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| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : thanks | 10:56 | 
| zGrr | Is Jolla planning to release a tablet? | 10:59 | 
| zGrr | That would be nice. | 10:59 | 
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| cos- | zGrr: even if they would be, they wouldn't announce it on irc when somebody asks :-) | 11:01 | 
| zGrr | true | 11:01 | 
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| tbr | you can run sailfish on the Nexus7, the UI isn't very tablet tuned though | 11:02 | 
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| Sailor10487 | anyone running sailfish on Xperia Tab Z? | 11:05 | 
| tbr | Sailor10487: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 11:07 | 
| Sailor10487 | ok, thanks | 11:08 | 
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| Nicd- | Galaxy Nexus support seems to be pretty good | 11:09 | 
| tbr | especially the 2012 edition | 11:10 | 
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| cameris | still need help with the TextField problem from above. Don't know why it does that. | 11:35 | 
| coderus | cameris: can't find your problem in backlog | 11:38 | 
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| cameris | coderus: 11:52 < cameris> following TextField is inside a delegate: http://pastebin.com/v9Ki4AS1 . Can anyone tell me why it is always errorHighlighted until I completly erase the number (count) | 11:43 | 
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| coderus | cameris: IntValidator sucks | 11:49 | 
| coderus | use RegExpValidator | 11:49 | 
| cameris | coderus: ^^ | 11:50 | 
| zGrr | How does the Jolla's power consumption compares to N9s? | 11:51 | 
| cameris | coderus: RegExpValidator works, but I get not as good performance while flicking | 11:51 | 
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| pp_ | it lasts longer, but no power save mode (which was nice to prevent running completely out of battery) | 11:54 | 
| zGrr | good | 11:55 | 
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| coderus | cameris: RegExpValidator{ regExp: /[0-9]*/;} ? | 12:01 | 
| cameris | coderus: /^[1-9][0-9]*$/ | 12:01 | 
| coderus | maybe replace it with Slider component then? :) | 12:02 | 
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| cameris | coderus: not practical in this case. but thx. I will use regexp for now. | 12:05 | 
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| coderus | cameris: did you tried to set manually both top and bottom in intvalidator? | 12:10 | 
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmmm | 12:41 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | I wonder, is there any chance lipstick-jolla will end up on github? | 12:41 | 
| Stskeeps | doubt it | 12:42 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | :| | 12:42 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | it would be unmanageable | 12:42 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | although it would allow for devs to make pull requests | 12:42 | 
| Stskeeps | well, not today at least.. | 12:42 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | (which is would make it unmanageable maybe) | 12:43 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | ah so there IS hope in the future? :) | 12:43 | 
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: most of sources are just for checkmark, no real pull requests will be allowed from end developers. only from menonobile dev team and sailors itself :) | 12:47 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | menonobile, right :P | 12:48 | 
| coderus | aha | 12:48 | 
| coderus | nemomobile | 12:48 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | lapsus ;) | 12:48 | 
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| coderus | its just my vision | 12:52 | 
| Stskeeps | coderus: ah.. that's not true, it's all about chasing down reviewers | 12:53 | 
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| coderus | Stskeeps: just commits "hack to make my QuickLaunch" make better won't be approved :D | 12:59 | 
| Stskeeps | well, if it's a reasonable api.. got an example of it happening? | 12:59 | 
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: ^ | 13:17 | 
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : no, but I can arrange it :) | 13:48 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : not yet, but will soon - if it gets reviewed? :) | 13:49 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | and where to get the assurance on that? | 13:50 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | :| | 13:50 | 
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: exactly :D | 14:02 | 
| Stskeeps | well, you don't have any assurance anywhere :P | 14:02 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | Everything changes all the time :P | 14:02 | 
| tortoisedoc_ | ha! it's a chicken / egg problem ^^ | 14:03 | 
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| cos- | i hope the slowness during incoming call is fixed in next update | 14:44 | 
| cos- | i think it's happening more often nowadays | 14:44 | 
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| Stskeeps | cos-: digging into exactly that one atm.. you have wlan enabled? | 15:54 | 
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| cos- | Stskeeps: yes | 16:10 | 
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| scharel | Hi there, does anyone know if there's a way to define the version of an app in just one single place and reuse it in *.spec *.yaml and *,changes files? | 16:22 | 
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| DuckZ | hello, I've installed osmand as somebody suggested yesterday (a gps/map android app), it works and all, but it takes up so much space | 16:34 | 
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| DuckZ | I've got a 32GB memory, is there any way I can use it in this scenario? | 16:35 | 
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| javispedro | hi hello | 17:34 | 
| javispedro | am I correct that elliptic curves are disable in sailfish's openssl because of patent concerns? | 17:35 | 
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| javispedro | hmhm | 17:38 | 
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| javispedro | at least ECDH_* is missing and I cannot find why other than the hobble-openssl script randomly deleting ec* files | 17:43 | 
| Stskeeps | javispedro: a-la fedora usually | 17:44 | 
| javispedro | yeah, more holy than the pope | 17:44 | 
| javispedro | the thing is, I'm quite sure I've used ecdh in fedora recently... will take a look | 17:44 | 
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: it was a gear2 you got yourself? | 17:48 | 
| javispedro | yep | 17:48 | 
| Stskeeps | how's that hacking going? | 17:49 | 
| javispedro | the "run mer" part going -- nowhere so far =) | 17:49 | 
| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:51 | 
| Stskeeps | well, anything to make it more useful than it came out of the box | 17:51 | 
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:51 | 
| javispedro | I put aside because I was having some success in talking to the stock propietary software | 17:51 | 
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| javispedro | namely, I managed to set the time. So at least the watch part works now =) | 17:52 | 
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:53 | 
| javispedro | in fact, ECDH is required to talk to it, which is why I was looking at openSSL. | 17:55 | 
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| javispedro | collabora announced "mali and wayland" ~ 2 weeks ago | 18:00 | 
| javispedro | http://community.arm.com/groups/arm-mali-graphics/blog/2014/08/14/mali-x11-vs-wayland-at-siggraph-2014 | 18:00 | 
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| javispedro | suspect Tizen folks got their softfp drivers from that | 18:01 | 
| Stskeeps | well, any chipset maker with respect for themselves can build mali.. | 18:01 | 
| javispedro | maybe they'll release hardfp drivers if I send some threatening letters :) | 18:01 | 
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| javispedro | Stskeeps, but there's definitely some Wayland calls in the driver and I'm not sure "any chipset maker" can do that | 18:02 | 
| Stskeeps | well :) | 18:02 | 
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| javispedro | the running Mer/Sailfish part is still interesting | 18:16 | 
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| javispedro | in part because Tizen is... well | 18:16 | 
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| javispedro | in part because I also want to experiment with leaving the AMOLED on 24h | 18:17 | 
| javispedro | and in part because I will probably not be able to tell anyone about the protocol the watch speaks unless I want to risk a C&D letters from samsung's lawyers | 18:18 | 
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| javispedro | I ponder what Apple's wearable going to be. | 18:24 | 
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| Stskeeps | wildest fantasy: a 4g connected ear-ish device with bone conductive speaker(?) and subvocalization recognition.. | 18:25 | 
| Nokius1 | javispedro: may we will see tomorrow a few interesting devices from Samsung again ifa2014 may other have a few as well | 18:26 | 
| javispedro | "interesting devices from Samsung"?? | 18:26 | 
| Nokius1 | Stskeeps: its apple the make mainstream ^^ | 18:27 | 
| Nokius1 | Tizen <— so toys for hacking ^^ | 18:27 | 
| tbr | Nokius1: or toys to get hacked. look at the tizen camera | 18:27 | 
| javispedro | unsurprisingly btw the pulse meter on the gear2 told me "140" bpm while I was entirely idle, and 60bpm right after going up a staircase | 18:28 | 
| javispedro | that summarizes what I think from most Samsung hardware :) | 18:28 | 
| Nokius1 | tbr :D YEAH | 18:29 | 
| javispedro | I was very surprised though that the gear1/2 ships with open bootloader | 18:29 | 
| javispedro | while the new one with android wear is locked down (mandated by google seemingly) | 18:29 | 
| tbr | heh | 18:30 | 
| tbr | well the gears are more like developer reference devices | 18:30 | 
| javispedro | good point | 18:31 | 
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| Nokius1 | but Samsung got last year during ifa a lot of attention to the "iwatch" javispedro I like my Meta and it is the most I wont from this devices time and a screen which shows notification and yeah you mad nice extras which now big companies use … | 18:32 | 
| Nokius1 | tbr may this is way they are a bit price | 18:33 | 
| javispedro | not really | 18:33 | 
| javispedro | they can be found by less than 150eur new | 18:34 | 
| tbr | Nokius1: you have a metawatch too? | 18:34 | 
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| Nokius1 | but is not the gear also an indicator that the need OS for weables is not out may this Android Wear will fill the vacuum | 18:35 | 
| Nokius1 | tbr yes | 18:35 | 
| javispedro | I guess I should stop fscking around and fix sowatch =) | 18:35 | 
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| Nokius1 | javispedro: ^^ | 18:35 | 
| tbr | javispedro: yes please, will buy you beers at fosdem | 18:35 | 
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| tbr | javispedro: btw, I heard that there is some bt-le code in qt 5.4 now | 18:36 | 
| javispedro | yeah, mine =) | 18:37 | 
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| Nokius1 | tbr are u still cearing the N9 to use the meta? | 18:37 | 
| javispedro | (well mostly ablasche's ) =) | 18:37 | 
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| tbr | javispedro: ah, cool | 18:37 | 
| Nokius1 | carrying | 18:38 | 
| tbr | Nokius1: I used to carry my N950 for that, but I stopped somewhen this spring | 18:38 | 
| Nokius1 | tbr oh yeah u told me (just remeber it was a N950) at cbase | 18:39 | 
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| FloR707 | Hi there. I am currently looking for a possibility to read the content of a directory. I had a nice solution using QSparql but that is not passing through QA. Is there another, accepted, method to ready the content of a directory? | 18:39 | 
| FloR707 | I am currently looking at the file browser code but I do not see how he does it... | 18:40 | 
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| Nokius1 | javispedro: I will buy u one too!! | 18:41 | 
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| javispedro | not alcoholic, but your requests have been noted | 18:43 | 
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| tbr | $beverage_of_choice | 18:43 | 
| javispedro | :) | 18:44 | 
| Nokius1 | ^^ | 18:45 | 
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| coderus | FloR707: hm... content of directory... did you tried QDir ? | 18:47 | 
| FloR707 | As import for QML or as include in c++? | 18:48 | 
| coderus | c++ of course | 18:48 | 
| coderus | just make simple class for QML | 18:48 | 
| FloR707 | Yes that is what I am looking for. How to make a simple class for QML. There is only one specific directory I would like to read from so it cannot be to hard, can it? | 18:49 | 
| FloR707 | I found several hints to use #include <dirent.h> | 18:50 | 
| Nokius1 | javispedro: last week after Nokia (here) shows there maps for gear my first guess was I had this allrady a year agao on my Metawatch with the N9 ^^ | 18:50 | 
| javispedro | yeah | 18:50 | 
| coderus | FloR707: do you need to read it just once or it should show how it's content changed? | 18:50 | 
| FloR707 | Only once. That should be fine. | 18:51 | 
| javispedro | Nokius1, scrollable+color maps is the reason I sometimes used the Liveview too (which is the one I plan to replace with the gear) | 18:51 | 
| Naranek | FloR707: what are you reading from it if I may ask? | 18:51 | 
| FloR707 | When the page is loaded. | 18:51 | 
| javispedro | Nokius1, though the color smartwatchs border on uselessness on most other usecases IMHO because of the low daytime visibility | 18:51 | 
| FloR707 | Playlists. I need to get the name and the URL so that I can pass this information in to my player class | 18:52 | 
| Nokius1 | javispedro: right but this is what the crowed like to have | 18:52 | 
| Nokius1 | the dont carry about battrylife this days | 18:53 | 
| Nokius1 | javispedro: in my eyes this devices are over hyped | 18:53 | 
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| coderus | FloR707: then use setContextProperty | 18:54 | 
| javispedro | well, gtg, cya | 18:54 | 
| coderus | QStringList files = QDir("/pat/to/dir").infoList(); | 18:54 | 
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| coderus | view->rootContext()->setContextProperty("playlists", files); | 18:55 | 
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| FloR707 | Okay thanks. I will read through the documentation and try from there. Thanks for the help. | 18:57 | 
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| coderus | FloR707: ah, there is also Qt.labs.folderlistmodel 2.0, but i have no idea if it allowed in harbour also... | 19:00 | 
| coderus | you'd better make own solution anyway | 19:01 | 
| FloR707 | I do not think I have seen it on the list… | 19:01 | 
| coderus | you can always fool harbour about qml import using Qt.atob and Qt.btoa functions :D | 19:02 | 
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| kimmoli | FloR707: ah, there is also Qt.labs.folderlistmodel 2.0, but i have no idea if it allowed in harbour | 19:04 | 
| kimmoli | also... | 19:04 | 
| kimmoli | 22:01 < coderus> you'd better make own solution anyway | 19:04 | 
| kimmoli | 22:01 < FloR707> I do not think I have seen it on the list… | 19:04 | 
| * kimmoli sorry | 19:04 | |
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| coderus | lol, kimmoli used notepad wrongly :D | 19:05 | 
| kimmoli | leaned over my trackball :) | 19:06 | 
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| coderus | kimmoli: you need more lube at your trackball | 19:08 | 
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| kimmoli | it would have been catched by pastebin script with 5 rows... | 19:12 | 
| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/HVgxx6AF | 19:13 | 
| kimmoli | (and it seems actually work) | 19:13 | 
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| coderus | i'm just using pastebin widget in KDE | 19:15 | 
| coderus | setup ctrl + alt + v as upload action | 19:15 | 
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| coderus | if i have image file:// in clipboard it will be uploaded to imgur automatically | 19:15 | 
| coderus | if i have data text it will be uploaded to paste | 19:15 | 
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| coderus | and will return link to clipboard :) | 19:16 | 
| coderus | awesom while using it with Klipper :) | 19:16 | 
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| Nokius1 | n8 | 19:34 | 
| Dicee | hmm i need calendat where i can add my work sifts automaticly via url | 19:35 | 
| Armadillo | you can use caldav | 19:37 | 
| Dicee | ok hmm | 19:38 | 
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:08 | 
| tortoisedoc | no update yet :| | 20:08 | 
| tortoisedoc | :P | 20:08 | 
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| tortoisedoc | sailors | 20:09 | 
| tortoisedoc | if I would like to make my custom build of lipstick | 20:09 | 
| tortoisedoc | and test it on my device | 20:09 | 
| tortoisedoc | how can i ? | 20:09 | 
| tortoisedoc | i think locusf has been able to, right= | 20:10 | 
| tortoisedoc | ? | 20:10 | 
| tortoisedoc | with the glacierui | 20:10 | 
| tortoisedoc | (which btw I did not have time to look into yet) | 20:10 | 
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| tortoisedoc | do I "just" replace the lipstick executablte? | 20:10 | 
| tortoisedoc | *executable also | 20:10 | 
| locusf | tortoisedoc: essentially yes | 20:11 | 
| locusf | tortoisedoc: I got sources | 20:11 | 
| tortoisedoc | locusf : you mean the nemomobile ones? | 20:12 | 
| tortoisedoc | (for lipstick) | 20:12 | 
| locusf | tortoisedoc: the homescreen implementation https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home | 20:12 | 
| tortoisedoc | locusf : thanks | 20:14 | 
| tortoisedoc | locusf : can I start with the nemomobile lipstick as well? | 20:14 | 
| tortoisedoc | (so I do not need to start from scratch) | 20:14 | 
| locusf | tortoisedoc: yes, that is the nemo mobile lipstick implementation | 20:15 | 
| tortoisedoc | locusf : ah thanks :) | 20:15 | 
| locusf | oh you mean the library | 20:15 | 
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| FloR707 | Hi, is it possible to check in QML if a listmodel has data? | 20:16 | 
| locusf | tortoisedoc: did you mean lipstick homescreen or lipstick library? | 20:18 | 
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| tortoisedoc | locusf : hmm which one is used on emulator? both? :D | 20:20 | 
| locusf | tortoisedoc: yeah both | 20:20 | 
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| tortoisedoc | locusf: thanks | 20:25 | 
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| coderus | FloR707: what you mean? | 20:33 | 
| coderus | FloR707: check if count > 0 | 20:33 | 
| FloR707 | I use a QStringList as model and want to know if there is data in it. | 20:33 | 
| FloR707 | list === NULL gives me an error but works… | 20:35 | 
| FloR707 | I mean visibility: list === NULL ? true:false | 20:35 | 
| FloR707 | other way round… | 20:36 | 
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| FloR707 | No sorry at it is. | 20:36 | 
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| FloR707 | No it is not working. Is always true =( | 20:38 | 
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| cameris | FloR707: what do you want to achieve with the model? | 20:52 | 
| FloR707 | I did a count in c++ and forwarded that number to the qml page to trigger the visibility. | 20:53 | 
| cameris | if its inside a List-/GridView or Repeater you could do for example ListView { id: myListView; model: myModel; visible: myListView.count > 0 } | 20:53 | 
| FloR707 | Just hoped that I could do that in QML. | 20:53 | 
| daitheflu | FloR707: visible: list.count>0 | 20:54 | 
| FloR707 | But only within the list right? I tried to bind that to a Text with an error message and that gave me the error that the id of the listview was not known. | 20:55 | 
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| cameris | FloR707: ofc it works outside of the ListView too, as long as it is in scope (http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-documents-scope.html) | 20:58 | 
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| FloR707 | Yea I still have to learn a lot about QML... | 21:11 | 
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| cameris | ... me too | 21:13 | 
| cameris | g2g, gn8. | 21:13 | 
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| FloR707 | gn8 | 21:18 | 
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