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| zbenjamin | can i somehow save a backup if i do NOT have a sd card? | 07:45 |
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| Bysmyyr | zbenjamin: copy .vault folder via ssh | 07:47 |
| zbenjamin | Bysmyyr: the backup notes say that this will break symbolic links? | 07:48 |
| Bysmyyr | tar it like qui does when copying it to sd card. but I do not know about it more:P | 07:48 |
| zbenjamin | Bysmyyr: ;) | 07:49 |
| zbenjamin | Bysmyyr: just found this https://together.jolla.com/question/53/how-user-can-take-backups-out-of-device/#post-id-57 | 07:50 |
| zbenjamin | Bysmyyr: i wonder if i can preserve app settings like this as well ;) | 07:51 |
| Bysmyyr | I think that way you get all what backup tool saves. other things you have to do manually | 07:51 |
| zbenjamin | Bysmyyr: yeah i meant using tar | 07:51 |
| Bysmyyr | tar is just way to store that vault | 07:52 |
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| tachikoma | hiho - just wondering, this latest system update - was that triggered by the bash security issue? | 08:00 |
| pp_ | bash and gnutls and whatnot | 08:01 |
| tachikoma | ah, k thanks | 08:01 |
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| tachikoma | the longer i have my jolla, the more i love it. Can't imagine having anything else anymore. jolla can bet on me buying their next device for sure ;) | 08:02 |
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| mgrover | hello, I am trying to compile a library for my jolla, libvnc to be precise, but am getting a "/opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: skipping incompatible" error, but I've confused this with ./configure --host=arm-linux. Am I using the wrong setting? | 09:16 |
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| SK_work | mgrover: where are you compiling it | 09:30 |
| SK_work | if you use sb2 there is a chance that ./configure is enough | 09:30 |
| SK_work | --host=arm-linux sound good too | 09:31 |
| mgrover | mersdk | 09:31 |
| mgrover | arm-linux hasnt worked, or does the library need to support arm? | 09:31 |
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| SK_work | wonder why it won't support it | 09:36 |
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| mgrover | well it supports android, so it should work fine? | 09:40 |
| mgrover | and this library has been known to work on arm devices such as the N900 and N9 | 09:41 |
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| zbenjamin | how would i backup my app settings? ~/.config and ~/.local | 10:09 |
| zbenjamin | ? | 10:09 |
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| SK_work | zbenjamin: ? | 10:12 |
| zbenjamin | SK_work: well a backup does not save everything, so i wonder how i can back those up as well | 10:12 |
| zbenjamin | SK_work: for example mitakuuluu database | 10:13 |
| SK_work | ah | 10:14 |
| SK_work | my best guess: copy ~/.config && ~/.local | 10:14 |
| SK_work | but I would even recommand to backup your whole /home/nemo | 10:14 |
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| flux | I backup /etc, /home (and the sdcard) over network nightly. is there something I should take as well? | 10:23 |
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| developerXXX | Hi, is it possible to make my app link to libogg and libvorbisfile by using the SDK? Or do I have to compile the libs by myself? | 10:44 |
| developerXXX | I cannot find any documentation about platform libraries and how to use them. | 10:45 |
| developerXXX | E.g. Blackberry guys handle and document this really well. | 10:46 |
| Armadillo | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 10:57 |
| Armadillo | there are some information | 10:57 |
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| developerXXX | Ok, thanks. | 11:09 |
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| AdrianoCampos | hi | 11:09 |
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| developerXXX | It's a bit sad that a lot of standard Linux libs are missing from the list of allowed libs. It makes porting existing apps painful. | 11:11 |
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| AdrianoCampos | nemomobile | 11:12 |
| AdrianoCampos | #nemomobile | 11:12 |
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| SK_work | developerXXX: which ones ? | 11:35 |
| SK_work | you can also include them either with rpath or static link | 11:36 |
| developerXXX | For example libogg, libvorbisfile, libopenal | 11:37 |
| SK_work | hum ... | 11:38 |
| developerXXX | These are common libs used by games. | 11:38 |
| SK_work | indeed | 11:38 |
| SK_work | this is a topic for thp I think | 11:38 |
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| developerXXX | This is how things are for BB10: http://developer.blackberry.com/native/documentation/cascades/dev/tools/libraries_commercial_frameworks.html | 11:47 |
| developerXXX | Sorry: http://developer.blackberry.com/native/documentation/cascades/dev/tools/library_support.html | 11:48 |
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| developerXXX | They offer OpenAL, Box2D etc for developers.. | 11:49 |
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| Armadillo | if you wanna use other Libs you can publish your app on warehouse instead of Jolla's harbour | 11:50 |
| Armadillo | the official allowed libs are being extended from time to time, but there's no roadmap for new libs I think | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | maybe just ask the support for integrating your needed libs | 11:52 |
| Armadillo | s/for integrating/to allow/ | 11:52 |
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| lainwir3d | Or you can include them in your package | 11:54 |
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| developerXXX | Btw...is there any support for CMake? | 11:58 |
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| SK_work | developerXXX: you can build with CMake | 12:05 |
| SK_work | you will lack integration of the SDK though | 12:05 |
| SK_work | but SSH into the MerSDK Virtual machine | 12:05 |
| developerXXX | ok | 12:06 |
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| louisdk | What does the last digits in SailfishOS version number (1.8.0.xx) stand for? Are this a number for total releases for a given Sailfish version including internal builds? | 17:29 |
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| tbr-foo | louisdk: quite likely | 17:44 |
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| Yaniel | presumably build number | 19:05 |
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| Aard | louisdk: build number of software at RC-quality level. not each of the versions there actually becomes an RC | 21:35 |
| stephg | go to bed jake9xx | 21:35 |
| Aard | louisdk: for example, the final RC for update8 was 1.0.8.19 -- which was the 7th RC | 21:36 |
| Aard | louisdk: for software in development the build counts are significantly higher. for example, for update10 (which is pre-RC) we're currently at .266 | 21:38 |
| stephg | Aard: nice insight; it's not surprising if you think about it but like anything, 'from the outside' you forget or don't appreciate the complexity | 21:44 |
| stephg | certainly in something as big as this | 21:44 |
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| stephg | anyway, bedtiem | 21:45 |
| stephg | night all | 21:45 |
| Umeaboy | sledges: Can you please merge my pull request? | 21:45 |
| Umeaboy | Night stephg! | 21:46 |
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| louisdk | Aard, wow. That's quite a bog number. | 21:47 |
| Aard | louisdk: update9 iirc was at something like .460 before it went to RC phase | 21:47 |
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| louisdk | Aard, So update9 is in .460, not out yet and you're already working on update10? | 21:49 |
| Aard | louisdk: u9 _was_ in .460 before it went to RC phase (=no new features, just bugfixing). once an update goes to RC phase people not busy with bugfixing on the RCs start hacking on the next update | 21:50 |
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| louisdk | Aard, Arrh right. | 21:51 |
| * Aard is currently doing some sanity checks on u10 content to avoid delays once we manage to get u9 out | 21:54 | |
| louisdk | Aard, are there any advantages of in-house RC's and bug testing compared to public beta testing? I guess you fear a bunch of Jolla geeks installing unfinished updates and then leave average people with a bad imitation of SailfishOS. | 21:57 |
| Aard | louisdk: public beta testing will come at some point, there's just some additional infrastructure missing. basically we'll need to be able to handle the bug reports coming in, or it's a pointless excercise. and we need to be able to offer you a way to recover the device without sending it to care if you brick it by helping us test | 22:00 |
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| louisdk | Aard, thanks for the in-sight :) | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, one needs to be able to handle the "firehose" of bugreports from the users | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | abut it is indispensable | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | *but | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | no internal QA can ever stumble on some many bugs as hordes of random users | 22:03 |
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| M4rtinK | but they would stop to bother if they think it all just goes down the drain - pun intended :) | 22:04 |
| Aard | yep, because of that I have the "be able to handle incoming bugs" as requirement | 22:04 |
| Aard | we have some pieces in place, and we're running small scale tests, but it'll take a while before we can scale up | 22:05 |
| louisdk | I've to stay out of beta stuff on my main devices. Remember reflashing my HTC Hero couple of times a week and updating to the new Ubuntu while is was still in Alpha. However I've learned to prefer stability. | 22:05 |
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| Aard | louisdk: we do aim for a bit better stability than that for what we'd give out as 'public beta', whenever we're ready | 22:06 |
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| M4rtinK | Aard: that's also one reason why I have been arguing that Sailfish OS should have a shared Bugzilla instance :) | 22:18 |
| Aard | M4rtinK: we can't share our instance, but we're currently working on making better use of mer bugzilla and some bugzilla linking magic, if that works out we might set up a public sailfish bugzilla in a similar way | 22:19 |
| M4rtinK | many companies are doing that just fine (Fedora shares Bugzilla with RHEL for example) | 22:19 |
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| M4rtinK | well, I've seen bugzilla linking a few times and I have yet to see a good implementation :) | 22:20 |
| Aard | M4rtinK: many companies don't do "bugzilla as your only tool" :) | 22:21 |
| M4rtinK | then they don't know what they are missing :) | 22:21 |
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| M4rtinK | I think it is at least good to have a single company/project wide issue tracker | 22:25 |
| M4rtinK | otherwise issues can easily go unnoticed, you get duplicates, etc. | 22:26 |
| Aard | we'll get duplicates anyway :) | 22:26 |
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| M4rtinK | sure, that's inevitable - but a single database should reduce their number :) | 22:40 |
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| M4rtinK | modRana just reached 4000 cumulative downloads on OpenRepos :) | 22:48 |
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| keithzg | At least if you have duplicates on a single database, you can flag them in reference to their non-dupe originals on the same database! | 23:32 |
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| M4rtinK | yep, good old CLOSED DUPLICATE | 23:33 |
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| keithzg | I'll admit though my company suffers from a mysterious case of oddly refusing to use "resolved - duplicate" on our bugtracker (Fogbugz, *shudder*) most of the time. | 23:38 |
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| M4rtinK | we do that all the time - even though there is some built in duplicate prevention (Bugzilla tells you possible duplicates when filling the bug in and ABRT does some search before submitting) duplicates still happen | 23:43 |
| M4rtinK | so we usually pick with the most info if more happen at the same time a DUPe the rest | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, some Bugzilla instances have funny custom statuses :) | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | like the NOTGNOME on the Gnome bugzilla :) | 23:45 |
| M4rtinK | CLOSED NOTGNOME :D | 23:45 |
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