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| rummur | hello | 03:49 |
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| atte1230912 | Hi! Could someone help me with the sailfish silica web view? I'm trying to use local html file | 04:51 |
| atte1230912 | How can I open it/how can I find the path for the file? | 04:52 |
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| tbr | good moaning | 06:00 |
| jpeg | Hello. So I was trying to port something to sailfish yesterday but it appeared that Wayland was quite old (1.1.0). What are the plans to upgrade it? Would version 9 bring a newer version of wl, or would that have to wait longer? | 06:11 |
| tbr | what something directly depends on the wayland version? | 06:14 |
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| Stskeeps | i think we're actually 1.3 | 06:14 |
| tbr | but what's in the emulator? :) | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 06:15 |
| tbr | next week is SDK update time though? :) | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | possibly, i don't track that atm, growing a big beard and diving into linux vm internals | 06:15 |
| jpeg | I wanted to.try and port EFL :) | 06:16 |
| jpeg | And since I have a Jolla phone I'm stuck to whatever version is used there | 06:17 |
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| tbr | ok, I can see that having low level deps, as opposed to a random Qt App | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | we do upgrade when we can | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | last time in february though | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | 1.3.0 on device | 06:18 |
| jpeg | I'll definitely have a look at the SDK when an update is out | 06:18 |
| jpeg | oh cool | 06:18 |
| jpeg | hmm looks like my phone has 1.1.0. Is it 1.3 with update 9? | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | what release are you on? | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | u8 should have had it | 06:21 |
| jpeg | nah actually I'm not sure about the version. the so files are just 1.0.0 | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -q wayland | 06:22 |
| tbr | pkcon or rpm -q know the answer | 06:22 |
| jpeg | 1.1.0 | 06:23 |
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| jpeg | 1.1.0+git2 1.2.1 | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | ok, what does your sailfish about say? | 06:24 |
| tbr | or ssu status | 06:24 |
| jpeg | 1.0.8.21 | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | then u9 has it | 06:25 |
| jpeg | awesome. now I'll just have to figure.out why autogen failed but that's an EFL issue | 06:26 |
| tbr | autofool-hell :) | 06:27 |
| jpeg | indeed. i hate autofoo :) | 06:27 |
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| nomeata | Hi. I’d like to create a custom reaction to a left swipe on my app, with an animation that is determined by how much the swipe has progressed (similar to the home-screen-peek) | 09:36 |
| nomeata | How would I go about that? | 09:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/gestures-overview.html | 09:41 |
| r0kk3rz | start reading | 09:41 |
| nomeata | thx | 09:41 |
| nomeata | but can I really hook into a partial gesture there? I.e. do something while the gesture is not finished yet? | 09:43 |
| nomeata | ah, I se | 09:44 |
| nomeata | see | 09:44 |
| nomeata | Thre is a Qt::GestureUpdated state | 09:45 |
| r0kk3rz | ive never done anything with gesture recognition | 09:48 |
| r0kk3rz | but the qt docs is always a good place to start | 09:48 |
| nomeata | According to http://stackoverflow.com/a/17864910/946226 this is not available to QML directly. Is that post correct? | 09:49 |
| r0kk3rz | probably | 09:49 |
| nomeata | Yes, I’m new to qt, so I don’t even know yet the places to look at :-) | 09:49 |
| r0kk3rz | qml is still fairly new | 09:49 |
| r0kk3rz | so theres lots of stuff that isnt built for it yet | 09:50 |
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| nomeata | so it might be easier to simply detect the swipe manually, as in https://gist.github.com/kovrov/1742405 | 09:50 |
| r0kk3rz | i would suggest getting stuck in cpp | 09:52 |
| r0kk3rz | sure there are ways of avoiding it, but its worth learning | 09:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | opens up a whole new world of possibillities, and its nicer to write complicated apps with | 09:55 |
| nomeata | I’m not yet writing complicated apps :-) | 09:56 |
| nomeata | Also, it seems that QtGestures doesn’t help, as it does not tell me how far an unfinished swipe went | 09:56 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: nothing related to silica gestures in your qt 4.8 gestures link ;) | 09:57 |
| nomeata | I thin I should look at the code of the pagestack implementation | 09:57 |
| r0kk3rz | like i said, ive never done gestures before | 09:57 |
| r0kk3rz | but if theres a silica object you can use, sounds like coderus has a better idea | 09:58 |
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| nomeata | My intuition tells me that ist just a bit too demading to be provided by an existing API. I always do that :-) | 09:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | youd be surprised nomeata, qt is pretty fancy at times | 10:00 |
| r0kk3rz | sirensong is mostly just an implementation of qtmultimedia | 10:01 |
| r0kk3rz | with some other simple stuff thrown in | 10:02 |
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| coderus | all UI stuff is easily doable on QML side | 10:02 |
| coderus | Qt Gestures system handling system gestures, not application | 10:02 |
| coderus | and you can do some actions in application after system gesture resolved/ended | 10:02 |
| coderus | this is not same you want | 10:02 |
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| coderus | just code some clipping items, fade animations and PathView/Flickable components | 10:03 |
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| nomeata | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/003207.html has a good suggestion, look at the calendar app. doing that... | 10:07 |
| nomeata | There is a TouchInteractionHint which might be related, but I cannot find documentaiton for it. But Code by coderus on GitHub :-) | 10:11 |
| nomeata | ah, or is that simply the overlay that tells the user that it can swipe here... | 10:14 |
| nomeata | That might be nice for my app as well :-) | 10:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | hmm the linguist button in the sdk doesnt appear to do anything | 10:17 |
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| dhbiker | howdy | 10:19 |
| dhbiker | how has sailfish evolved till now ? | 10:19 |
| dhbiker | <--- N900 user thinking about upgrade | 10:19 |
| Morpog_PC | needs some more time | 10:20 |
| dhbiker | elaborate? | 10:20 |
| stephg | dhbiker: rather nicely, to counter Morpog_PC's opinion ;) | 10:20 |
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| dhbiker | *shrugs* | 10:21 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah its a personal opinion really | 10:22 |
| r0kk3rz | i guess the point is that its still evolving | 10:23 |
| stephg | dhbiker: depends what you what you're looking for | 10:23 |
| r0kk3rz | and the main way to support jolla so that it continues to evolve, is to buy a jolla phone | 10:23 |
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| Morpog_PC | thats true | 10:23 |
| dhbiker | stephg i'm looking for a daily driver | 10:24 |
| r0kk3rz | and now is a great time to buy one, because you can get 100e off the price | 10:24 |
| dhbiker | a bit of terminal use | 10:24 |
| dhbiker | and maybe app development | 10:24 |
| stephg | it's been in the wild for under a year, there's been 9 milestones already and it's matured a bunch, and it now runs (to a lesser or greater extent) on like 20 devices | 10:25 |
| stephg | so it's progressing quickly I'd say | 10:25 |
| r0kk3rz | by asking someone here for their gift code | 10:25 |
| dhbiker | 100e off... i don't know anyone | 10:25 |
| Morpog_PC | paid app support is still missing, more api's allowed in store still missing, more account integration missing, more stability missing (hw and sw), more native apps missing | 10:25 |
| stephg | I use it daily, several folks here do too | 10:25 |
| Morpog_PC | dhbiker, i can give you mine | 10:25 |
| stephg | everything Morpog_PC says is also true | 10:25 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah everyone will gladly give their code, because they get a free aloe cover if they do | 10:26 |
| dhbiker | yeah as i thought | 10:26 |
| dhbiker | oh. | 10:26 |
| Morpog_PC | but I use it as my only device since I bought it, so for a tinkerer it's not that bad | 10:26 |
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| dhbiker | well i'm buying it in about a month maybe if it's not too late ? | 10:26 |
| Morpog_PC | for a mainstream user = not a that good idea | 10:26 |
| dhbiker | <-- major tinkerere | 10:26 |
| dhbiker | -r | 10:26 |
| dhbiker | -e | 10:26 |
| r0kk3rz | i think the gift codes are only working till the 2nd of nov | 10:27 |
| Morpog_PC | dhbiker, the code is valid till 2nd november | 10:27 |
| dhbiker | crap. | 10:27 |
| Morpog_PC | actually if you don't mind using android app compatibility, you get more apps than on n900 or n9 | 10:28 |
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| dhbiker | well i'm currently using crashy N900 :D | 10:29 |
| Morpog_PC | you can even install play store and play services and then it's not that different from a real android phone | 10:29 |
| dhbiker | so i guess jolla would be a godsend for me | 10:29 |
| dhbiker | right now | 10:29 |
| r0kk3rz | im glad i bought one | 10:29 |
| r0kk3rz | its a great little phone | 10:30 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, I never regreted it | 10:30 |
| dhbiker | so then as a user | 10:30 |
| dhbiker | what's the cons | 10:30 |
| dhbiker | and nevermind the OS | 10:30 |
| r0kk3rz | hardware quality could be better | 10:30 |
| Morpog_PC | stability issues, perf issues | 10:30 |
| r0kk3rz | price is a bit much | 10:30 |
| dhbiker | price = agree | 10:30 |
| dhbiker | hardware quality... well... it's their first ever phone | 10:30 |
| Morpog_PC | but some of that stuff got fixed with latest opt-in update 9 (which has a few new flaws, but thats why it is opt-in) | 10:31 |
| dhbiker | so i guess they will learn from it and make another one bettter | 10:31 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 10:31 |
| tadzik | I really think the hardware is the least of the problems :) | 10:31 |
| Morpog_PC | hopefully :D | 10:31 |
| dhbiker | so basically the same problems as N900 | 10:31 |
| r0kk3rz | the unfortunate thing is that they know about common issues, and could technically fix them | 10:31 |
| dhbiker | except it's not dead OS like mine | 10:31 |
| r0kk3rz | but cant afford to put another device through all the regulation testing again | 10:31 |
| Morpog_PC | performance wise i like the dual core, I don't really miss a quad core. Also battery life is really decent. Display is OK, would have loved it to be a 720p one. In sunlight it's a bit weak | 10:32 |
| dhbiker | that's understandable | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz | but its very fast for the outdated hardware | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz | screen is good but not amazing | 10:32 |
| r0kk3rz | core sailfish functions are still a bit iffy, particularly conman | 10:33 |
| Morpog_PC | small fonts are a bit fuzzy, and sailfish os uses narrow fonts | 10:33 |
| dhbiker | the main question now | 10:33 |
| dhbiker | is it GPL ? | 10:33 |
| r0kk3rz | but if you're still running an n9, then i dont see what you have to lose | 10:33 |
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| Morpog_PC | dhbiker, alot but not not everything | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | (a lot of LGPL, too..) | 10:33 |
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| Morpog_PC | ui QML is BSD but c++ is closed | 10:34 |
| r0kk3rz | because even though its not as great as a samsung device, its probably a decent upgrade from the very dated n9 | 10:34 |
| Morpog_PC | a few plugins like word prediction are closed | 10:34 |
| Morpog_PC | drivers are closed | 10:34 |
| r0kk3rz | it was a noticable upgrade from my HTC incredible s | 10:34 |
| dhbiker | too bad... community could help fix the problems | 10:34 |
| dhbiker | like on N900 | 10:34 |
| r0kk3rz | we help where we can | 10:35 |
| Morpog_PC | well Jolla community is smaller than N900 or N9 | 10:35 |
| dhbiker | yeah but it's fairly new | 10:35 |
| Morpog_PC | there is no giant behind that sells 100.000 devices | 10:35 |
| dhbiker | compared to maemo and meego | 10:35 |
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| dhbiker | umm... brb | 10:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | does the sailfish sdk not come with qt linguist? | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | it does but you need to build dep on it.. isn't it in FAQ? | 10:39 |
| r0kk3rz | probably a good idea to read the faq i guess | 10:40 |
| stephg | pfft, who ever reads anything ;) | 10:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah | 10:47 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont really get how linguist works yet | 10:47 |
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| nomeata | Bummer. The interaction I’m looking for seems to be implemented in the DatePicker component, where the implementation is closed source, isn’t it? | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can peek at the qml on device | 10:55 |
| nomeata | That’s what I did, but it just used DatePicker{...} (which is provided by silicia), so no way to peek at the implementation of that | 10:56 |
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| nomeata | Tricky. Trying to detect a press-move-release gesture with a MouseArea, while still allowing plain presses to pass through. In my pressed handler, I either have to set mouse.accept = true (but then it is not passed through) or = false (but then I don’t see further events) | 11:24 |
| Sailor-2gether | FATAL Qt - ASSERT: "uint(i) < uint(size())" in file /usr/include/qt5/QtCore/qbytearray.h, line 414 were do I have to search if this happens in the logfiles with a application? | 11:26 |
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| Sailor-2gether | found it | 11:29 |
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| locusf | Sailor-2gether: this is about pebble? | 11:51 |
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| Sailor-2gether | locusf: yep | 11:51 |
| Sailor-2gether | just added it to the bug report | 11:52 |
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| Sail0r | for some reason it crashes in the shown code | 11:53 |
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| Sail0r | I wonder why it never crashed before | 11:55 |
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| Sail0r | I would like to see what the watch is trying to send in this moments ^^ | 12:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | do i really need to add the translator to the sailfish app instance? seems like something that should be there by default | 12:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | on the libsailfishapp it seems like it is there by default | 13:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | oh of course, when you run via the sdk it defaults to C locale..... ooooops | 13:14 |
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| attah | Would the uplift to qt 5.2 mean that we can expect to be allowed to use qtdocgallery in harbour? | 14:12 |
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| coderus | Jolla! Please update tzdata in some future hotfix release! Stupid russian goverment changed timezones again. Now Moscow have UTC+3 clock. There is tzdata 2014i available, but Jolla still using tzdata 2013i. | 14:22 |
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| quixote1 | Compatibility list says Sailfish can be installed on Xiaomi Mi 2. Does that include 2S? Need to know before I drop $250 on it! >:o | 14:39 |
| Shinryuu | :P | 14:41 |
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| Zotan | quixote1: where is the compatibility list? | 14:45 |
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| quixote1 | The one on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS#Devices_running_Sailfish_OS | 14:47 |
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| stephg | quixote1: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 14:48 |
| stephg | the source link for wikipedia is ooooold | 14:49 |
| quixote1 | I was afraid of that. The libhybris link looks excellent. I don't see the Xiaomi on it at all, though. Oh well. | 14:51 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: now you just wait fsb to impound your stuff after berating government | 14:55 |
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| quixote1 | Thanks for the info. You great people just saved me $250! | 15:02 |
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| Shinryuu | \o/ | 15:18 |
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| cryorat | guys, you know about why tweetian cant upload pictures via direct messages? | 16:19 |
| cryorat | i able to use the 'attach image' option but the selected image didnt show up in the message line | 16:20 |
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| * merlin1991 just wondered if there's a ready vnc solution to remote control the phone? | 16:24 | |
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| stephg | merlin1991: there's a semi-working one | 16:33 |
| stephg | it's not great tho | 16:34 |
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| drtechenstein | Hello everyone | 18:19 |
| drtechenstein | I have a few questions regarding Tahkalampi for Nexus 4 | 18:20 |
| drtechenstein | I installed mp3 codec according to this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51984334&postcount=1 but mp3 audio is still not working | 18:20 |
| drtechenstein | also I can't get my mobile data to work | 18:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | drtechenstein: probably best to ask in #sailfishos-porters | 18:31 |
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| coderus | MSameer: ping | 20:52 |
| coderus | can you halp me to remember how to check video metadata? | 20:52 |
| MSameer | avprobe? | 20:52 |
| coderus | aha! | 20:52 |
| MSameer | :) | 20:53 |
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| _cvp_ | hi :D | 20:58 |
| coderus | MSameer: sorry, whatsapp still rejecting video :( | 20:58 |
| MSameer | has there been any changes since the last time we checked it? | 20:59 |
| _cvp_ | i check the bug list, have trouble with contact sync :( | 20:59 |
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| coderus | MSameer: no changes in metadata qt version | 21:01 |
| coderus | MSameer: still 537199360 | 21:01 |
| coderus | as before update | 21:01 |
| MSameer | coderus: I know that whatsapp rejects videos and nothing has been fixed regarding that | 21:02 |
| MSameer | coderus: I am bus with some fixes for jolla camera and after that I will be working on gst 1.x | 21:02 |
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| MSameer | coderus: so it's now almost on my table | 21:02 |
| coderus | MSameer: good | 21:03 |
| coderus | seems update 11 can have gst1.x finally :) | 21:04 |
| MSameer | I hope so but I cannot promise | 21:06 |
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| coderus | good enough :) | 21:10 |
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| _cvp_ | what is this meaning? id: serverSettingFlickable | 21:36 |
| _cvp_ | sry iam noob :P | 21:36 |
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| Sailor6717 | hi which channel again should i ask about issues with nexus 4 and sailfish os? | 21:40 |
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| Yaniel | #sailfish-porters ? | 21:41 |
| Sailor6717 | thank you Yaniel | 21:41 |
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| _cvp_ | allowedOrientations: bothOrientation | 22:08 |
| _cvp_ | is this for landscape? | 22:08 |
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