Tuesday, 2014-11-04

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Juubamy "People" app is empty (contact list)06:38
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Juubarestart fixed it06:43
Juubabut... https://gist.github.com/juuba/8ce4c262fd30f687cac706:44
Juubasync fail messages in logs?06:45
Juubadunno, maybe i have those options "disabled" in settings, the xml files are 0 bytes06:49
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Armadillodelete those files06:51
ArmadilloI had the same issue two times already06:51
Armadillowith three mail accounts each time06:51
Armadillothis likely happens if the account app is writing the account details and the app is terminated06:52
Armadilloit was said that this is a known bug, dunno if this will be fixed or not06:52
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daithefluHi :)09:10
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JuubaArmadillo: ok, thanks09:17
Juubainstalling Uitukka now... *shiver*09:18
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Juubaalso did a "reset" to zeroize the status again09:18
Juubawho knows what odds and ends I had loose on the system :D09:18
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Juubaquestion: if i already have a btrfs card ready, I can skip the steps 1-14 on https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/09:25
Juubayeah, just disable the serviec, create the mount sdcard service, and enable it09:25
Juubai think...09:25
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okudamn fingrterm...10:41
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zGrrmoin :)11:40
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cos-how often does the google account update the calendar or is it broken?11:47
cos-yesterday i moved an event to another date, and i noticed it's still on old date in jolla11:47
cos-there is no feedback if it has updated it successfully and when11:48
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leszekcos-: yeah it syncs in the background. It will sync with the settings set for it in the account settings. And no there is no notification of a successful sync11:50
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sandsmarkany notification for failed sync?11:55
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kimmoliadvertisement: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla12:05
Stskeeps4k eur already? not bad12:06
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ernestigoal is a bit high though12:08
cos-kimmoli: backed.12:08
Nicd-ernesti: good quality manufacturing is not cheap12:09
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ernestiNicd- nod12:09
oku6500 and counting :)12:10
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sandsmarkheh, growing fast12:25
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sandsmark12k :D12:27
oku12k already :)12:27
sandsmarkthis might actually get funded, awesome12:27
okuI see quite a big demand for proper smartphone keyboard there :D12:27
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sandsmarktoo bad most manufacturers don't see that12:28
lbtbespoke hardware costs - I am so impressed!  (me + wife are getting one each - so go help fund them 'cos I want my tohkbd)12:28
sandsmarkthank $DEITY for crowdfunding and an open enough HW platform that this is possible :p12:28
leinirdon't forget, too, that it's an actual innovative product... people are constantly worried about mechanical keyboards and the mechanism failing but this is seriously clever, there's no slider to break, and if the keyboard snaps off... you just snap it back on again, no harm done... and you still get to have your super sleek jolla, without the keyboard bulk, if you want to show it off :)12:29
leinirand then when you get to showing /that/ bit off, to people who want a keyboard, you just whip it out, snap it on, and then those people go "ooooh..." and want it even more :D12:30
okuleinir: that's true. It has fixed many of the drawbacks in most physical keyboards.12:30
okuusually the mechanics are overly complicated and tend to break12:30
leiniri can totally see someone on stage going "Oh, just one more thing *dig into pocket, snap keyboard on phone, roaring applause*" ;)12:30
sandsmarkI don't know how accurate that is, but it says trending towards 200k :p12:31
sandsmarkbut I guess it doesn't take into account that there's a limited amount of jolla owners12:31
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leinirwhen operating with this narrow a data set, you can't really count on it ;)12:32
sandsmarkI tried that to try to get a graph to see the speed of pledges12:32
sandsmarkbut the graph is stupid12:33
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r0kk3rznicely timed with the 100e voucher from Jolla13:00
r0kk3rzmight get some people (n9 owners) over the line for both13:00
Nicd-r0kk3rz: notice all backers that order a fully assembled tohkbd will also get a 100 € discount13:01
Nicd-for a jolla phone I mean13:01
r0kk3rzoh i didnt spot that13:01
r0kk3rzthats aweome13:01
Nicd-so if someone is thinking of buying a jolla, now they can get the keyboard almost for free13:01
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r0kk3rznice of Jolla to do that13:06
r0kk3rzquestion is, do I really want one, hmmmmmmm13:07
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r0kk3rzguess ive got a few days to decide13:08
kysseindeed. It's so looong time to wait (Apr 2015)13:08
kysseto get tohkbd :C13:08
r0kk3rzthats not that far away13:09
r0kk3rzif dirk can get it done sooner, then he will13:10
r0kk3rzapril is a conservative estimate13:10
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r0kk3rzmight be a good excuse to go back to nederlands and join the assembly line13:17
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sandsmarkover half-way there already14:07
sandsmarkkicktraq has gone crazy, it says it's trending towards 870k :p14:08
sandsmarktbr: what, you don't trust extremely simple linear estimates :p14:09
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tbrsandsmark: those are the most reliable ones, right? I think Mr. Ponzi used them too and look how successful he was!14:10
sandsmarkhaha, true!14:10
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FireFlyr0kk3rz: estimates are hard, I'm counting on late spring next year and hoping to be pleasantly surprised instead14:40
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sledgesPSA: sailfishos community meeting @ #mer-meeting . agenda: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/14:59
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sledgeskimmoli (taking out of #mer-meeting): me is doing spring-cleaning in me room this very time15:22
kimmolisledges: spring = "a resilient device, typically a helical metal coil, that can be pressed or pulled but returns to its former shape when released, used chiefly to exert constant tension or absorb movement."15:24
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kimmolii do that usually, stuff stuf to boxes etc and they hust spring back...15:24
Armadillolol :D15:24
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B-ZaRHi, I'm porting a simple game I've made in QtQuick2 to sailfish using the SDK. My game requires qt5-qtgraphicaleffects installed. I installed the package to the emulator's virtual machine to try it out, but I'm getting 'module "QtGraphicalEffects" is not installed' when trying to run the game in the emulator. Any ideas what I should try or read to overcome this?15:58
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SK_workhi B-ZaR16:01
SK_workcan you ssh into your emulatopr ?16:01
SK_workthen please be sure that /usr/lib/qt5/qml/ contains QtGraphicalEffects16:02
B-ZaRlike so, right? ssh -p 2223 -i ~/Programs/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Emulator/root root@localhost16:02
B-ZaRSK_work: it doesn't. the SDK shows it as installed though?16:02
SK_workyou installed it through SDK16:03
SK_workSDK installs it inside the "build" virtual machine16:03
SK_workand that's good emulator throws you this error16:03
SK_workyour spec file is not updated16:03
SK_workplease put a depends inside your spec file16:03
SK_work(or better, yaml file)16:03
B-ZaRRequires:   qt5-qtgraphicaleffects16:03
SK_workB-ZaR: exactly16:03
B-ZaRit's already ther16:03
B-ZaRsame as in yaml16:04
SK_workthe emulator /should/ auto-install it16:04
SK_workB-ZaR: hum ... typo ?16:04
SK_workok then16:04
SK_workinside emulator as root, "zypper in qt5-qtgraphicaleffects"16:04
B-ZaR-bash: zypper: command not found16:04
SK_workB-ZaR: pkcon install qt5-qtgraphicaleffects16:05
dpurginit's still pkcon in emulator16:05
B-ZaRokay, got ahead :)16:05
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B-ZaRthe next issues are with my application. I'll get back if I bump into other system problems. Thanks!16:05
SK_workB-ZaR: it should work after that16:05
SK_workwonder why the emulator don't autoinstall the required packages :/16:06
B-ZaRgood question16:06
dpurginmoreover, the build engine installs build dependencies from spec automatically16:06
B-ZaRbut that should be buildrequires tehn?16:06
B-ZaRbut it's a runtime dep16:06
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dpurginsorry, missed that, you stick with Requires then :)16:07
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SK_workdpurgin: the build engine installs but emulator don't install requires ?16:10
dpurgindunno, worked for me :) maybe it was rpm generation issue, it happens to SDK from time to time16:14
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sandsmarkwhoo, less than 5k to go18:08
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tbrall in a day's work ;)18:12
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sandsmarkimpressive how fast it went18:17
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coderuszram is kernel module, right? and zram in openrepos doesnt fir u9 kernel?18:27
coderusdoesn't fir*18:27
Morpog_PC__coderus, I heard Stskeeps started to play with zram, so we may get it in a future update by default18:28
Shinryuuno wonder I had zream depedency issues18:29
Shinryuuso I removed it18:29
coderusmain question is: where u9 kernel sources? ;)18:31
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Stskeepsin my backlog, it seems18:32
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sandsmark2k to go \o/18:36
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Nicd-party at dirk's house18:43
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FireFly-0.3k :p18:54
sandsmarkthis is awesome18:54
SK_worklet's see to where it goes now18:54
SK_work60k ?75k ?18:54
Morpog_PC__next goal: injection mold18:55
sandsmark1.5 million?18:55
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Morpog_PC__kimmoli, why no thread about TOHKBD kickstarter project on TJC?19:09
Morpog_PC__could gather some more backers19:09
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tadzikhttps://together.jolla.com/question/389/keyboard-other-half/ it's here too19:10
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Morpog_PC__a dedicated thread of course :D19:11
r0kk3rzmoar tjc threads19:12
Morpog_PC__the moar the bettar :D19:13
coderusnow jolla winn need to make u10 or u11 with disabled vkb when TOHKBD is active ;)19:17
coderuswill need*19:17
Stskeepsisn't the vkb disabled in sdk anyhow?19:17
Stskeepsnevertheless, not the most hard thing to fix19:18
Morpog_PC__when you're at it fix the frambuffer rotation for N9 too :D19:19
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Stskeepsi'm busy getting grey hair in memory optimization19:22
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coderusMorpog_PC__: lol :D19:25
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* kimmoli is confuscated 19:52
Stskeepskimmoli: congrats19:53
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kimmolii was afk and it was kinda suprice when came back online..19:55
Stskeepsa bit?19:55
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* lpotter is not surprised a bit20:12
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r0kk3rzsurprised a lot?20:14
Nicd-hmm, how can I use the ball from TextSwitch?20:14
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Nicd-or the ball that's used to show the pagestack20:16
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kimmoliisnt it GlassItem20:16
kimmoliiirc see EffectPage.qml20:16
Nicd-seems to be, Qt Creator says it can't find it20:16
kimmolior it just underscores it with red?20:17
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Nicd-yeah and complains "Unknown component"... should I just ignore that?20:18
Nicd-well, Qt Creator does also hate TextFields20:18
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Nicd-hmm, the GlassItem seems to be too high or somehow else aligns vertically completely differently than all of my other content (in a Row)20:30
Nicd-and setting width for it doesn't seem to do anything20:31
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Nicd-scratch that last line, that was just my own fail20:34
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Nicd-progress! https://plus.google.com/+MikkoAhlroth/posts/GuhMqCj83uF21:14
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Nicd-Hey, what has changed in the desktop files in U9?21:20
Nicd-My app no longer starts from the icon in app grid21:21
Morpog_PC__not sure if that indicators should be used there21:26
Morpog_PC__looks kinda strange21:26
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FireFlyI agree.  Perhaps highlighting the names using the ambience colour would be a better idea21:32
FireFlyIIRC communi does that with its sidebar21:32
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Nicd-Morpog_PC__: all comments are welcome :) I'll probably go with that to get some alpha version out, it can be changed later22:11
Nicd-you could file an issue for it so I'll remember to take a look at it later22:11
cos-71k€ on tohkbd.. not bad.22:12
kengui was judging that jolla will be "obsolete" at the time when tohkbd is available but with tohkbd it will be then "reusable" for other purposes22:13
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M4rtinKI can see people actually buying Jolla for tohkbd :)22:27
kenguM4rtinK: yeah22:28
EztranThat voucher might help for that.22:28
M4rtinKthere are still quite lot of people using the N90022:28
M4rtinKnot only due to the keyboard, but it is a big factor22:29
M4rtinKjust met another N900 user this weekend on a conference22:29
M4rtinKand I know about at least 2 other people still using the N900 full time22:29
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kengui was using n900 and I would still be if the microusb was better22:35
kenguI didn't like the fact that I needed two. one to charge and other one in use22:36
kenguas the other had broken sim slot22:36
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ParkerRdear god those magnets23:03
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M4rtinKfucking magnets, how do they work ? :)23:04
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brunelliM4rtinK: http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/jeskj/eli5_magnets_how_do_they_work/23:11
brunelliJust kidding xD23:11
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lpottermagnets work by contaiing magic23:24
lpottercontaining, even23:26
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