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| Nicd- | hey guys, how do I need to update my app's .desktop file for U9? | 06:22 |
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| Nicd- | currently it's not starting the app (just says "Loading" forever and then dies) | 06:23 |
| Nicd- | I can start the app just fine from the terminal though | 06:23 |
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| Juuba | anyone using the Whatsapp android in Jolla? How do you "do contacts"... my whatsapp just shows empty | 06:35 |
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| entil | I thought contact access was done.. | 06:46 |
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| HereAGoat | ;)hi ! | 07:10 |
| HereAGoat | Can I get the target platform in pro file ? | 07:11 |
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| HereAGoat | I want to set up the shadow build directory in pro file | 07:16 |
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| HereAGoat | I'm working on the cocos2d-x game engine's sailfish support | 07:18 |
| HereAGoat | Need help my friends | 07:18 |
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| Armadillo | Juuba ping | 07:22 |
| Armadillo | Juuba may I take you're logs from the synchronization problem to write a TJC How-To to solve the problem? | 07:23 |
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| Juuba | Armadillo: you mean the xml stuff= | 07:31 |
| Armadillo | correct | 07:31 |
| Juuba | can you read this ? https://gist.github.com/juuba/8ce4c262fd30f687cac7 | 07:31 |
| Armadillo | yes | 07:31 |
| Juuba | sadly, I reset my phone, so that's all I have :/ | 07:31 |
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| Armadillo | that's enough :) | 07:31 |
| Juuba | dunno about lines 1-2 are they related to that | 07:32 |
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| Armadillo | I'll only take the last two or four | 07:33 |
| VDVsx | looks like those xml files got corrupted, probably due to some unexpected reboot/disk full, brtfs not very good at that it seems | 07:33 |
| Juuba | you decide :) Good luck with the reporting | 07:33 |
| Armadillo | VDVsx yes | 07:34 |
| Juuba | yeah, they're on disk with size 0 bytes | 07:34 |
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| Armadillo | the problem is, that the sync software doesn't handle this like if the files don't exist and overwrite it with a newer version | 07:35 |
| VDVsx | if you have questions let me know, but that is known that can happen(there are some workarounds in place to help in those cases, can't remember in which release) | 07:35 |
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| Armadillo | deleting the xml files works like a charm ;) | 07:35 |
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| Armadillo | Juuba there it is: https://together.jolla.com/question/61994/bug-account-synchronization-doesnt-work-anymore/ | 07:58 |
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| cos- | hmm, could that also be the reason my google calendar isn't updating | 08:06 |
| Juuba | check: /home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/ if it has 0 bytes files, rm those | 08:06 |
| Armadillo | maybe | 08:06 |
| Juuba | :D this past year has seen myself get involved in FOSS 100% more than ever before. | 08:07 |
| Juuba | :D | 08:07 |
| HBP_ | cos-: calendar sync works if you use the app provided by google and refresh manually :P | 08:09 |
| HBP_ | but then syncing google contacts is a bit harder issue, for me it hasn't been working since Aug | 08:10 |
| Master-Passeli | After Uitukka also general CalDav stopped syncing here | 08:14 |
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| HBP_ | btw. if I connect my jolla with dev USB why do I get the following route: 192.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.0.0.0 U 1 0 0 usb1 | 08:24 |
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| stephg | HBP_: that's weird, I don't have that | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | that's a rather wide network | 08:26 |
| HBP_ | yep, it breaks things :) | 08:26 |
| HBP_ | I also get 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 usb1 which is correct I guess | 08:26 |
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| HBP_ | oh noes, it isn't :D | 08:27 |
| HBP_ | my phone is 192.168.3.15 | 08:28 |
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| HBP_ | is there any documentation about that sync file format? I have interval = 0 for calendar but != 0 for other services | 08:30 |
| lainwir3d | hi ! | 08:30 |
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| HBP_ | stephg: ah hmh, that was in my network manager :o | 08:41 |
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| HBP_ | http://paste.dy.fi/gzc | 08:43 |
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| HBP_ | so it completely fails because of a invalid entry, maybe= | 08:45 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 09:42 |
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| Nokius1 | kimmoli: Hi wanted to ask you if can count you in for some TOH to present at FOSDEM next Year (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2015) | 10:27 |
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| kimmoli | Nokius1: uh | 10:42 |
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| Nokius1 | kimmoli: Wanted to ask you bit earlier but atm I busy finding a job so thats why I a bit late around the corner | 10:43 |
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| kimmoli | Nokius: yes, that comes kinda fast | 10:48 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: sorry | 10:49 |
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| kimmoli | but i wouldn't rule it out, have to give some time for it | 10:52 |
| kimmoli | or for my brains to process... i usually refuce all santa requests too but | 10:52 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: sure take your time ( Deadline is 20.11) Thanks for your support :) | 11:00 |
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| tbr | Nokius: I'm sure someone with a keyboard ToH will turn up at FOSDEM. :) | 11:07 |
| Nokius | tbr: v1 or v2 :P iirc v2 will be in our hand around April ^___^ May you will bring you Battery one with you | 11:08 |
| tbr | I'll check how many myToHs we have left. might bring those around. | 11:10 |
| tbr | which kind of reminds me to check with cybette and jukka if Jolla paid for the batch of myToHs devaamo gave them. | 11:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | you can send me a mytoh tbr :) | 11:21 |
| r0kk3rz | unfortunately I dont think i'll make it to tampere any time soon | 11:22 |
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| tbr | r0kk3rz: sure, 2€ + p&p | 11:27 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds like a fair deal | 11:28 |
| tbr | probably will include even the holding bracket | 11:28 |
| tbr | it's essentially just to cover the production cost that devaamo footed back then | 11:28 |
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| tbr | it comes unpopulated, but is already usable as such | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | no smd components? | 11:29 |
| kimmoli | i should have all parts needed, just add heat and solder (if devaamo doesn't??) | 11:31 |
| kimmoli | 20~ | 11:31 |
| kimmoli | undo | 11:31 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: anyway, figure out a price to post to UK its a done deal | 11:33 |
| tbr | kimmoli: devaamo doesn't have parts, you and JvD_ are the people with parts. :) | 11:34 |
| kimmoli | so pcb at tampere /i'm out of stock/ and parts at espoo. | 11:34 |
| tbr | if r0kk3rz wants it populated, then kimmoli could mail me the parts and I'd pop them and then drop it in the mail to her majesties country | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | alternatively i'll be in helsinki next monday for the day | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | populated would be nice, but im sure I can manage otherwise | 11:37 |
| kimmoli | we can do things around, send me pcb, i'll assy it and give it to r0kk3rz ? | 11:37 |
| tbr | that works too | 11:37 |
| tbr | I'll see to get a pcb in the mail today. kimmoli - please msg me your preferred address | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | :) thanks guys | 11:39 |
| kimmoli | so we _have_ to meet then on monday | 11:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah thats cool | 11:43 |
| r0kk3rz | ive got 24h is helsinki | 11:43 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: hmm, just found your breakout... | 12:33 |
| kimmoli | http://sailfishwayfarer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/i2c-breakout-theotherhalf.html | 12:33 |
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| Armadillo | does anyone have an example how to use the Separator element? | 13:37 |
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| Nicd- | I have used it for a graphical effect but dunno if it's how it's supposed to be used | 13:39 |
| Nicd- | here: https://bitbucket.org/Nicd/sailtime/src/ab80b8c4e82170b5142de664a072aa78f7a49c76/qml/pages/AboutPage.qml?at=master | 13:39 |
| Nicd- | that was my first app though so the code is really noobish | 13:40 |
| Armadillo | thanks | 13:44 |
| Armadillo | interesting, that the documentation for this is completely wrong as there also were complaints about this one year ago on the mailing list | 13:44 |
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| suy | Is there something equivalent to Q_OS_ANDROID (and QNX, WINPHONE, etc.) for SailfishOS? | 14:37 |
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| suy | Well, the answer is clearly not, at least for upstream Qt, not even 5.4. The real question is: do you think this should be added to Qt? | 14:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: that was before I realised i was going to need a logic level converter | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | and eeprom | 15:15 |
| kimmoli | ok | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | i would have put something together eventually, but im not really set up for hardware stuff anywhere yet | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | living out of a suitcase is like that | 15:17 |
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| sandsmark | is it safe to change the hostname? | 16:12 |
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| SK_work | sandsmark: try :) | 16:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | yaaaay i have a laptop with a decent screen again | 16:27 |
| r0kk3rz | cept now the sdk doesnt work | 16:32 |
| r0kk3rz | siiiigh | 16:32 |
| r0kk3rz | anyone tried the sdk on windows 8_ | 16:33 |
| sandsmark | SK_work: I just hope it still boots afterwards :p | 16:34 |
| * sandsmark runs hostnamectl | 16:34 | |
| SK_work | sandsmark: recovery if you screw it up | 16:36 |
| sandsmark | true | 16:36 |
| sandsmark | whoo: Static hostname: oyarsa | 16:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | ah, win8 needs an environment variable setting up | 16:49 |
| r0kk3rz | not so bad | 16:49 |
| r0kk3rz | should throw that on the SDK Wiki | 16:49 |
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| Nokius | Thanks to locusf and tbr :) | 17:53 |
| tbr | np | 17:53 |
| locusf | np :) | 17:53 |
| tbr | Nokius: can you clarify the last sentence? | 17:53 |
| Nokius | tbr: You mean the Why should … question | 17:55 |
| tbr | Nokius: yes | 17:56 |
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| tbr | or write it in german and I'll come up with a good wording | 17:57 |
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| Nokius | tbr will do Thanks | 18:00 |
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| Nokius | tbr may its better now | 18:12 |
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| tbr | Nokius: does that still say what you want? | 18:15 |
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| Nokius | tbr that good coworking is great added abit | 18:19 |
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| Nokius | tbr the ecosystem part need a bit polish will think about improvement there | 18:24 |
| tbr | ok | 18:27 |
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| Nicd- | hm, where are the .desktop files on sailfish? | 18:42 |
| locusf | /usr/share/applications | 18:43 |
| Nicd- | hmmm | 18:44 |
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| coderus | Best developer question ever :D | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | my .desktop file looks ok, but for some reason my app doesn't start from the app grid | 18:47 |
| Nicd- | it just stays "Loading" for a while and then dies | 18:47 |
| coderus | what is your desktop file contents? | 18:48 |
| coderus | sailtime? | 18:48 |
| coderus | did you changed something? | 18:48 |
| Nicd- | no, it's an app I'm developing. but I can take a diff -u from sailtime's .desktop file | 18:49 |
| Nicd- | and sailtime works ok | 18:49 |
| coderus | show me your desktop file and main.cpp file | 18:49 |
| Nicd- | desktop is https://bitbucket.org/vincit/harbour-weechatrelay/src/2d041f74a5e610b2b868be2ea92098dcb3ce7b09/harbour-weechatrelay.desktop?at=master | 18:50 |
| R-Z | cpp | 18:50 |
| R-Z | its a trap! | 18:50 |
| Nicd- | main cpp file is https://bitbucket.org/vincit/harbour-weechatrelay/src/2d041f74a5e610b2b868be2ea92098dcb3ce7b09/src/harbour-weechatrelay.cpp?at=master | 18:50 |
| coderus | you not/using wrong/invalid invoker category or/and your main.cpp have no/wrong export features | 18:50 |
| Nicd- | what does that mean? | 18:51 |
| coderus | Nicd-: missing Q_DECL_EXPORT before int main | 18:51 |
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| Nicd- | why do I need that? it's not in the sailfish app template | 18:51 |
| coderus | and calling QCoreApplication:: befoew/with Sailfishpp::main seems suspicious | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | well it works fine when I start it from the terminal | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | only starting from app grid fails | 18:52 |
| coderus | start invoker --type=silica-qt5 harbour-weechatrelay | 18:52 |
| coderus | use this way: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/client/src/main.cpp#L123 | 18:53 |
| coderus | then create view: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/client/src/main.cpp#L224 | 18:53 |
| coderus | set main qml, show it: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/client/src/main.cpp#L246 | 18:54 |
| coderus | and return app->exec(); at the end | 18:54 |
| Nicd- | ooh! | 18:55 |
| Nicd- | I changed desktop file to say: | 18:55 |
| Nicd- | Exec=invoker --type=silica-qt5 harbour-weechatrelay | 18:55 |
| Nicd- | and now it starts fine from the app grid :) | 18:55 |
| Nicd- | thanks coderus! | 18:55 |
| Zeeshanahad | hello | 18:55 |
| Zeeshanahad | coderus :P | 18:56 |
| locusf | you shouldn't have to do that in a .desktop file | 18:56 |
| coderus | Nicd-: lol | 18:57 |
| Nicd- | locusf: but now it works and before it didn't :D | 18:57 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: sure if you like putting more hacks into your application :P | 18:58 |
| Nicd- | r0kk3rz: well maybe someone can tell me the proper way then | 18:58 |
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| locusf | coderus just did | 18:58 |
| * coderus feels like when tried to help code right, but was understood wrong, and got thanks anyway, because person was satisfied his results ... | 18:59 | |
| Nicd- | so my code in main() is wrong and affects how it starts from the app grid? | 18:59 |
| Nicd- | but not how it starts from the terminal? | 18:59 |
| Nicd- | I'll rewrite my main() code, it just sounds strange :) | 18:59 |
| coderus | Nicd-: you want your app be approved to harbour? | 18:59 |
| coderus | then learn coding right | 19:00 |
| Nicd- | coderus: eventually yes | 19:00 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: i run my main method the way you do, launches fine from app grid | 19:00 |
| coderus | and start understanding process | 19:00 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: with QCoreApplication:: calls before SailfishApp::main call? And everything works fine? :D | 19:00 |
| r0kk3rz | no | 19:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | without the qcoreapp calls | 19:01 |
| coderus | lol | 19:01 |
| Nicd- | coderus: problem is there is no documentation for the sailfish specific main() stuff | 19:01 |
| coderus | then shut app and let Nicd- learn :P | 19:01 |
| coderus | Nicd-: really? | 19:01 |
| Nicd- | haven't found any | 19:01 |
| Nicd- | other than the 6 line comment in the main cpp file | 19:01 |
| Nicd- | and usually when I ask here I just get another dev (not a jolla dev) that shows me how their app works | 19:02 |
| locusf | how old is your sdk? | 19:02 |
| coderus | what is it for then?! https://bitbucket.org/vincit/harbour-weechatrelay/src/2d041f74a5e610b2b868be2ea92098dcb3ce7b09/src/harbour-weechatrelay.cpp?at=master#cl-21 | 19:02 |
| locusf | I don't think the latest sdk has the same boilerplate code | 19:02 |
| locusf | and yes as coderus shows | 19:03 |
| locusf | hmm it says you can use, not have to use | 19:03 |
| Nicd- | locusf: it's the one before U9 | 19:03 |
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| locusf | Nicd-: ok, then the code should be ok | 19:03 |
| r0kk3rz | comment out the qcoreapp calls | 19:03 |
| coderus | Nicd-: do you know what is QGuiApplication, QQuickView classes for? | 19:04 |
| coderus | did you developed qt apps before sailfish? | 19:04 |
| Nicd- | no | 19:04 |
| coderus | just for many developers these things are essential :D | 19:04 |
| coderus | ok then :D | 19:05 |
| coderus | use this code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8839908/ | 19:07 |
| Nicd- | thanks, I was just writing it that way | 19:09 |
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| coderus | after you successfully start your app via launcher grid please google articles about QGuiApplication/QCoreApplication, QQuickView and QScoppedPointer | 19:11 |
| coderus | QScopedPointer* | 19:11 |
| coderus | and not just google, please read it :D | 19:12 |
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| Nicd- | hm, I restored the original .desktop file and wrote main() like suggested, but it still doesn't start from the app grid | 19:19 |
| Nicd- | I'll gist the files | 19:19 |
| cos- | in finnish, sorry http://5w.fi/5blog/2014/11/05/jollan-kameran-linssin-hionta/ | 19:20 |
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| Nicd- | cos-: should that be in #jollamobile? | 19:21 |
| cos- | yes actually | 19:21 |
| cos- | or #jollasuomi | 19:22 |
| Nicd- | here: https://gist.github.com/Nicd/e1db57fe567052f7eea6 | 19:22 |
| Nicd- | in the logs it says Nov 05 21:22:08 Jolla lipstick[987]: invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-weechatrelay' | 19:23 |
| Nicd- | any ideas? :) | 19:24 |
| Nicd- | well, if I don't get it to work I'll just put the hack into the .desktop file and deal with it later | 19:29 |
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| Forgrimm | I started with the development of SailGrande an unofficial but native Instagram client for Sailfish. Maybe someone has used/tried it already? I have some questions about ux design for upcoming features. | 19:49 |
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| Nicd- | someone just mentioned it recently | 19:51 |
| Nicd- | apparently it was TMavica who isn't here right now | 19:52 |
| Forgrimm | Currently the app has two main views: The personal feed and the popular feed. But I want to add tagged based feeds and also location-aware feeds. Also some more functions like going to the own profile and more. Some ideas how to mantain a Sailfish like experience? Don't want to add to many pulldownmenu items | 19:53 |
| stephg | o/ | 19:58 |
| Forgrimm | Okay, maybe he's back later | 19:58 |
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| kimmoli | what is instagram? | 20:20 |
| coderus | kimmoli: instagram.com | 20:22 |
| * kimmoli tries to be funny in middle of MGConfItem() things... | 20:23 | |
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| kimmoli | mmmm... beer, i shouldnt | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | 88,8k | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | lucky number | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:40 |
| coderus | kimmoli: MGConfItem, again? :D | 20:40 |
| kimmoli | ?again? not done it actually yet... | 20:40 |
| kimmoli | but this hates me still | 20:42 |
| stephg | TOHKBD shows what's right with the world. It's brill on so many levels | 20:42 |
| R-Z | and kimmoli, keep being awesome, i dont even own a jolla device or anything, ive just seen your work on the maemo forums, FINNISH MONGOL PRIDE! | 20:45 |
| kimmoli | :) | 20:46 |
| coderus | kimmoli: what wrong? :D | 20:46 |
| kimmoli | i moved my daemon to user | 20:46 |
| kimmoli | but need setuid | 20:46 |
| kimmoli | and now dconf gets rooted | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | kimmoli: have you considered other way around, make some kind of udev rule for the gpios that you setgid to..? | 20:47 |
| kimmoli | öm | 20:47 |
| kimmoli | no | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | +group | 20:48 |
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| kimmoli | could basically work... | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | maybe a good way to motivate sailfish to do toh-y stuff as user too | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | ie a toh group | 20:50 |
| kimmoli | http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9667 | 20:52 |
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| kimmoli | i have a feeling i dont know what i'm doing, but SUBSYSTEM=="subsystem", KERNEL=="gpio", ACTION=="add", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c 'chown -R nemo:nemo /sys%p'" this seems to do something | 20:58 |
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| kimmoli | and now the dconf doesnt work anymore | 21:07 |
| coderus | kimmoli: once rooted dconf must be fixed manually with chown | 21:09 |
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| kimmoli | done | 21:09 |
| coderus | kimmoli: just create another dbus daemon for dconf stuff | 21:10 |
| coderus | and enjoy your main rot daemon | 21:10 |
| coderus | root* | 21:10 |
| kimmoli | ärf | 21:10 |
| kimmoli | what i'm doing was possible over dbus in u4 or something | 21:11 |
| coderus | somrtimes it better than trying to fit evverything in one daemon | 21:11 |
| coderus | kimmoli: :D | 21:11 |
| kimmoli | or i just do process("su - nemo -c.... | 21:13 |
| kimmoli | i'll test that | 21:14 |
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| kimmoli | ok, process is started as nemo, so this works | 21:46 |
| kimmoli | process->start("/usr/bin/dconf write /sailfish/text_input/active_layout \"'tohkbd.qml'\""); | 21:46 |
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