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Juuba | so, does anyone have a solution to Whatsapp android version, why it does not see Contact | 07:43 |
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Juuba | Contacts* | 07:43 |
Juuba | and when trying to save, it (alien-dalvik?) complains: "action not supported" | 07:44 |
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tbr | because accessing the sailfish contacts database isn't implemented? (guessing) | 07:49 |
Jonni | it should see the public contacts, but access to facebook etc contacts are blocked because of ToS. | 07:50 |
tadzik | tbr: it is, works for Telegram | 07:51 |
tbr | ok | 07:51 |
tadzik | no idea about whatsapp | 07:52 |
* tbr doesn't use android apps much | 07:52 | |
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Juuba | am I missing something from the "Google"implementation | 07:55 |
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Juuba | earlier I had all kinds of google's shi..stuff around, like Hangout and stuff | 07:56 |
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Juuba | https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/ | 08:55 |
Juuba | i'm wondering if this "new, less invasive" method is leaving stuff out that Google requires | 08:55 |
Juuba | re: whatsapp contacts funtionality etc... | 08:55 |
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Bysmyyr | atleast telegram not need any google stuff | 08:57 |
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Juuba | yeah, dunno | 08:58 |
Juuba | games do work | 08:58 |
Juuba | like Clash of Clans and Plague! | 08:58 |
Juuba | Plague inc. | 08:58 |
Juuba | but... | 08:58 |
Juuba | whatsapp, I can receive messages, but I cannot add the people that sent them as contacts | 08:58 |
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Armadillo | update10 features sound very well | 09:07 |
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coderus | Juuba: android? | 09:17 |
coderus | Juuba: restart aliendalvik/reboot device | 09:17 |
coderus | it helps me | 09:17 |
coderus | on first start whatsapp failed to fetch contacts somehow | 09:17 |
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Juuba | coderus: ok, i'll try that | 09:19 |
Juuba | second question, maybe chem|st is available? | 09:19 |
Juuba | how can I check/be sure, that my phone is using the btrfs sd card | 09:20 |
Juuba | for android stuff | 09:20 |
Juuba | hmm,, just figured, that maybe timestamps.. | 09:20 |
Juuba | if they're recent on the card, it should be used... | 09:20 |
Juuba | *slap* | 09:20 |
Juuba | seems to be | 09:21 |
Juuba | just funny that reinstalled apps on a reset phone do not have the same data available, even if the card is the same as in the previous "installation" | 09:22 |
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coderus | "beginning with making icons resolution independent" <- best in u10 features list :D | 09:28 |
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SK_work | coderus: I wonder the impact on performance | 09:29 |
SK_work | if everything is (for example) svg, it will take more time to render | 09:30 |
sandsmark | it can be cached easily, though | 09:31 |
Juuba | jeebus... this warehouse - emoji installation has taken 30 minutes so far | 09:31 |
Juuba | ... | 09:31 |
sandsmark | KDE uses svg icons everywhere with no issue (at least after it got the global mmap disk cache thingie) | 09:31 |
sandsmark | Juuba: sounds like something broke | 09:31 |
Juuba | warehouse is not responding pops up all the time | 09:31 |
Juuba | but it is progressing | 09:32 |
Juuba | yeah, dunno what | 09:32 |
Juuba | full 4G bars available | 09:32 |
SK_work | sandsmark: nope, KDE uses several icons of different resolutions | 09:32 |
sandsmark | SK_work: with full svg support | 09:32 |
SK_work | Juuba: U9 installed isn't it ? | 09:32 |
Juuba | yes | 09:32 |
sandsmark | SK_work: and plasma themes are all svg | 09:32 |
SK_work | warehouse have issues with this | 09:32 |
SK_work | sandsmark: ha, yep, plasma | 09:32 |
SK_work | they also have a complex caching system inside plasma | 09:33 |
Juuba | SK_work: okay | 09:33 |
SK_work | Juuba: you should have used zypper | 09:33 |
SK_work | use warehouse to add repo, zypper to install ... | 09:33 |
Juuba | rooger | 09:33 |
Juuba | "should have used" | 09:33 |
sandsmark | SK_work: not very complex, it's just mpyne's kshareddatacache iirc | 09:33 |
Juuba | THANKS! :D | 09:33 |
Juuba | "of course I should have known these thing beforehand!" | 09:33 |
Juuba | i <3 this linux way of doing stuff | 09:34 |
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SK_work | sandsmark: looks rather complex | 09:35 |
sandsmark | https://www.purinchu.net/wp/category/programming/implementing-kshareddatacache/ | 09:36 |
sandsmark | it's a lot of work, but not very complex work | 09:36 |
Juuba | SK_work: so, if I kill warehouse now, then use zypper install ... will it be able to resume installation ? | 09:36 |
SK_work | Juuba: I don't even think that warehouse is doing something meaningful atm | 09:36 |
Juuba | well, I saw it DLing stuff and then installing it | 09:37 |
Juuba | but it just was S L O W | 09:37 |
Juuba | seems like it got the work done in the end! | 09:38 |
Juuba | zypper says "nothing to do" | 09:38 |
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Juuba | but the emoji is not working properly, hmm | 09:40 |
SK_work | Juuba: what did you do ? | 09:42 |
SK_work | with zypper | 09:42 |
SK_work | zypper ref | 09:42 |
SK_work | zypper in <packagename> | 09:42 |
Juuba | yeah | 09:42 |
Juuba | i tried "zypper install keyboard-custom-emoji" | 09:43 |
Juuba | it did it's work but said "nothing to do" since it is installed alreadt | 09:43 |
Juuba | already | 09:43 |
Juuba | hmm, what was the way to remove dependant packages aswell ? | 09:43 |
SK_work | Juuba: don't think you can | 09:44 |
SK_work | but zypper in -f if you need | 09:44 |
SK_work | zypper in -f keyboard-custom-emoj | 09:44 |
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Juuba | bah, i need to restart the phone I belive after "first install" | 09:46 |
Juuba | there was some package manager that could remove deps as well | 09:46 |
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Juuba | couple of weeks ago I was told that | 09:46 |
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sandsmark | «Remove dependencies that are no longer needed, because e.g. the package which needed the dependencies was removed.» «zypper rm -u» | 09:48 |
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Juuba | mhm | 09:49 |
SK_work | Juuba: apt do this, don't know if zypper can do it | 09:49 |
Juuba | still after reboot the emoji is not workin... well, maybe it's the problem of that adnroid FB client | 09:49 |
SK_work | Juuba: hum | 09:50 |
SK_work | did you enabled it in settings ? | 09:50 |
Juuba | those emoji smileys get written "right-to-left" as chinese/whatever | 09:50 |
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SK_work | hum ? | 09:50 |
SK_work | trying to input emoj in android app ? | 09:51 |
Juuba | yes | 09:51 |
SK_work | well, not a good idea ... | 09:51 |
Juuba | :) | 09:51 |
sandsmark | zypper rm -u seems to be equivalent to apt-get autoremove or whatever, but I can't find an equivalent of pacman -Rcs foo | 09:51 |
SK_work | I think android stuff have issues doing this | 09:51 |
Juuba | perhaps, emoji seems to work in e.g SMS | 09:52 |
Juuba | another question | 09:53 |
Juuba | is there a package that allows install of 'less' | 09:54 |
Juuba | or do i need to find it in warehouse | 09:54 |
locusf | could be in mer-tools | 09:54 |
SK_work | Juuba: sms is a native app | 09:56 |
Juuba | SK_work: yesh, just saying, that emoji seems to work in native | 09:56 |
Juuba | so the installation was ok | 09:56 |
SK_work | ok | 09:56 |
SK_work | locusf: didn't find it in mer-tools | 09:56 |
Juuba | okay, got less installed, nielDK has it | 09:57 |
SK_work | yep | 09:57 |
Juuba | then... | 09:57 |
locusf | SK_work: ok, just a guess | 09:57 |
Juuba | android Chrome problem | 09:57 |
SK_work | usually nieldk have it | 09:57 |
Juuba | it cant' open any pages | 09:57 |
SK_work | Juuba: android chorme ? | 09:57 |
SK_work | hum ... | 09:57 |
locusf | chrome has never worked | 09:57 |
SK_work | good luck with that then :D | 09:57 |
Juuba | okay | 09:57 |
Juuba | I seemed to remember that it worked earlier | 09:57 |
Juuba | okay then, removing that ballast | 09:57 |
Juuba | (i reset my phone then update 9'ed it, so I'm doing these things from scratch again) | 09:58 |
Juuba | I can access my bookmarks :D | 09:58 |
Juuba | also it .. when I'm typing and URL, it shows suggestions as it should | 09:58 |
Juuba | just doesn't open any pages | 09:59 |
SK_work | I'm thinking of getting a build of qtwebengine | 10:02 |
SK_work | but it do require qt 5.3 (or 4 ?) | 10:02 |
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sandsmark | SK_work: it depends on 5.4 now, I think | 10:04 |
sandsmark | at least latest git master | 10:04 |
SK_work | :( | 10:06 |
SK_work | too bad | 10:06 |
SK_work | hum | 10:06 |
SK_work | static link everything ? | 10:06 |
SK_work | if I do this, lbt will kill me as I will kill the OBS | 10:06 |
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sandsmark | haha, yes | 10:10 |
sandsmark | building it probably requires about 32GB of RAM by now | 10:11 |
sandsmark | for linking | 10:11 |
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r0kk3rz | new laptop so is much nicer to develop on | 10:32 |
r0kk3rz | high res screen, better cpu | 10:33 |
Nicd- | which laptop? | 10:33 |
cryorat | r0kk3rz, it brews coffe? | 10:33 |
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r0kk3rz | lenovo u430 touch | 10:34 |
r0kk3rz | no it doesnt brew coffee, but i wish it did | 10:34 |
flux | just install emacs | 10:34 |
r0kk3rz | all the reviews said it had a 1600x900 screen, but somehow ive ended up with a 1080 model | 10:35 |
cryorat | about a year ago I upgraded to 1080p from 1024x600. the difference was astonishing | 10:36 |
r0kk3rz | woah | 10:36 |
cryorat | But I still use 8px console font :) | 10:36 |
r0kk3rz | yeah i can imagine | 10:36 |
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Nicd- | I'm looking at a retina mbp | 10:37 |
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r0kk3rz | i wanted something like that, but i cant afford it atm | 10:40 |
r0kk3rz | so this is a bit of a compromise | 10:40 |
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r0kk3rz | sucks when your laptop breaks and you cant really afford a proper replacement | 10:43 |
cryorat | r0kk3rz, it happened to me with phones | 10:45 |
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cryorat | my good old trusty motodefy 'dieded' then i bought an alcatel OT fire | 10:46 |
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coderus | SK_work: i bet all to 16x16 - 256x256 icons packs :) | 10:55 |
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zGrr | moin :) | 11:34 |
tbr | moo | 11:34 |
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Wnt | argh! I accidentally ran 'grep Wnt> \#sailfishos.log |less' when yrying to find some of my old pastebin links from here! | 12:10 |
Wnt | maybe I should have put quotes around that Wnt> part! | 12:11 |
Armadillo | :D | 12:11 |
flux | just restore it from backups ;) | 12:11 |
Wnt | could someone send me a copy of the channel logs from the last year or so? | 12:12 |
flux | if you're missing a single file, think how much you'll miss the whole device contents :) | 12:12 |
Wnt | Unfortunatelly I have been lazy with the backups on this machine :( | 12:12 |
Wnt | this might be a good reminder to automate backups from this machine too :) | 12:13 |
stephg | http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/ | 12:13 |
stephg | Wnt: ^^ | 12:13 |
tbr | Wnt: there are the mer logs | 12:13 |
tbr | Wnt: if you drop the html it is also available as plain text | 12:13 |
tbr | I can also make you a tarball of that | 12:14 |
Wnt | tbr: a tarball would be helpful! | 12:15 |
ponky | whos responsible for those logs? | 12:15 |
Wnt | but I can also use a spiderto load that stuff | 12:15 |
ponky | nicely archived ;o | 12:15 |
Wnt | thanks! :) | 12:15 |
tbr | ponky: it runs on Mer infra. if something in Merbot breaks, poking me is a good first step. | 12:16 |
ponky | tbr: kk, i think irclog2html is what i was looking for | 12:16 |
tbr | it's a great piece of code by mgedmin | 12:17 |
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sjtoik | guess it's good to have a infinite amount of retries. | 12:24 |
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tbr | yay, that was weird | 12:30 |
tortoisedoc | tbr : what was weird? | 12:31 |
tortoisedoc | who is going to slush this year? | 12:31 |
* tortoisedoc not having a ticket :( | 12:31 | |
tortoisedoc | anyone got a ticket to spare??? | 12:31 |
tbr | tortoisedoc: that the password I tried repeatedly only worked on the umptienth time | 12:32 |
* tbr is pondering to go to slush, but doesn't have a ticket either | 12:32 | |
tbr | Wnt: http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/wnt.tar.bz2 - let me know once you have it | 12:32 |
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tortoisedoc | jolla could support devs by providing discounts on slush tickets? ;P | 12:36 |
VDVsx | Slush is not a dev conference :) | 12:37 |
Juuba | yeah, so about android whatsapp, now after rebooting, it works, contacts are shown. | 12:38 |
tortoisedoc | Slush is a startup sauna :P | 12:38 |
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tortoisedoc | each individual developer in open source is hence a startup :P | 12:38 |
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Forgrimm | Is there an event, that fires when a page gets started from app cover? the status property only changes when moving from page to page. But minimize the app and then open the app again -> How can I react to that? | 12:49 |
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Wnt | tbr: got it, thank you very much! | 12:50 |
tbr | np | 12:51 |
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Wnt | And I found the pastebin links for calling dbus from .desktop files http://paste.kde.org/pz7ummi2p | 13:04 |
Wnt | now I have a "Lock the device" and "Connect to internet" actions in the lock screen pulley menu again :) | 13:04 |
tortoisedoc_ | Wnt : lock button broken? | 13:11 |
tbr | tortoisedoc_: I expect full lock with code | 13:13 |
tbr | e.g. if you want to leave the device on the table | 13:13 |
tortoisedoc_ | tbr : hmm ok but with screen on you mean? | 13:13 |
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Wnt | The email in developer mailinglist about update 10 reminded me of the tweak I did earlier that makes it possible to put the device in to a mode that requires the lock code. Without waiting for the lock timeout | 13:43 |
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Wnt | that can be achieved by running: "dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /devicelock org.nemomobile.lipstick.devicelock.setState int32:1" | 13:44 |
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Armadillo | is it possible to enable the QuickScroll feature already at two times the visible length instead of third times? | 15:04 |
Armadillo | s/third/three/ | 15:05 |
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coderus | Armadillo: reimplement it | 16:44 |
lainwir3d | anyone know something about this error ? rsync: rename "/home/nemo/RPMS/.harbour-zik2-manager-1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm.oWSwB5" -> "harbour-zik2-manager-1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm": No space left on device (28) | 16:47 |
lainwir3d | when trying to deploy a rpm with sailfish sdk | 16:47 |
sandsmark | «rsync: rename "/home/nemo/RPMS/.harbour-zik2-manager-1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm.oWSwB5" -> "harbour-zik2-manager-1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm": No space left on device (28)» | 16:48 |
sandsmark | the disk is full | 16:48 |
lainwir3d | yeah | 16:48 |
lainwir3d | but no | 16:48 |
lainwir3d | it's not | 16:48 |
sandsmark | how did you check? | 16:48 |
sandsmark | remember that it is btrfs | 16:49 |
lainwir3d | sorry I should have precised | 16:49 |
lainwir3d | oh. df -h | 16:49 |
sandsmark | that doesn't work on btrfs | 16:49 |
lainwir3d | :o | 16:49 |
lainwir3d | first time hearing of this | 16:49 |
sandsmark | and the kernel used is very old, which means that the btrfs behaviour is pretty bad | 16:49 |
lainwir3d | how should I do it ? | 16:49 |
sandsmark | lainwir3d: https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 16:49 |
lainwir3d | thanks | 16:50 |
sandsmark | np | 16:50 |
lainwir3d | i'll look into it | 16:50 |
sandsmark | I really wish for a newer kernel, but I guess that's a long shot because of the drivers and stuff :p | 16:51 |
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r0kk3rz | sandsmark: depends on the nemo/mer guys as well | 16:52 |
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sandsmark | ok | 16:52 |
lainwir3d | it doesn't look full... | 16:53 |
lainwir3d | hmm | 16:53 |
sandsmark | the behaviour of btrfs should be much better in 3.14 | 16:53 |
sandsmark | lainwir3d: what does `btrfs fi show` say? | 16:54 |
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lainwir3d | devid 1 size 13.75GB used 12.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 16:54 |
sandsmark | hmm, btrfs allocates in 1GB chunks? | 16:55 |
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sandsmark | still weird, though, it should be able to allocate another chunk | 16:55 |
sandsmark | maybe it wants another metadata chunk as well or something weird | 16:55 |
lainwir3d | i guess so | 16:55 |
lainwir3d | investigating | 16:55 |
sandsmark | not sure how much it logs, maybe look in journalctl or dmesg? | 16:56 |
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lainwir3d | I have absolutely 0 logs about this | 16:56 |
lainwir3d | (which is even more weirder) | 16:56 |
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lainwir3d | pulseaudio[2316]: error while renaming file. No space left on device | 16:58 |
lainwir3d | wait, what ? | 16:58 |
lainwir3d | no ok, bluetooth headset bug, might not be related | 16:59 |
sandsmark | I think it is related | 16:59 |
sandsmark | can you touch a test file? | 17:00 |
lainwir3d | maybe but I'm not sure. The software on my headphone is experimental (i'm working for parrot) | 17:00 |
lainwir3d | ok | 17:00 |
lainwir3d | it works | 17:00 |
sandsmark | ok, what about echoing some data into it? | 17:01 |
sandsmark | echo foo >> test, for example | 17:01 |
lainwir3d | works | 17:01 |
sandsmark | but then it looks like it has free space for metadata at least | 17:01 |
sandsmark | hmm | 17:01 |
lainwir3d | i'll try a bigger file | 17:01 |
lainwir3d | alright I'm lost | 17:03 |
lainwir3d | better not try restarting the device I guess... | 17:04 |
lainwir3d | if it's really a btrfs problem I might not reboot at all | 17:04 |
sandsmark | writing a bigger file worked? | 17:05 |
lainwir3d | yeah | 17:05 |
lainwir3d | but iw was still just 4~5MB | 17:05 |
sandsmark | hmm | 17:05 |
sandsmark | well, the rpm shouldn't be much bigger | 17:05 |
lainwir3d | it's still bigger than the rpm the sdk is trying to copy / rename | 17:05 |
lainwir3d | yeah | 17:05 |
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sandsmark | ah, wait | 17:06 |
sandsmark | it's always renames that fails? | 17:06 |
lainwir3d | seems like it | 17:06 |
lainwir3d | rsync: rename "/home/nemo/RPMS/.harbour-zik2-manager-1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm.gXibfn" -> "harbour-zik2-manager-1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm": No space left on device (28) | 17:06 |
sandsmark | yeah, same with PA | 17:06 |
sandsmark | try renaming your testfile? | 17:06 |
lainwir3d | works | 17:07 |
sandsmark | hmpf | 17:07 |
lainwir3d | oh shit | 17:07 |
lainwir3d | no | 17:07 |
lainwir3d | first one worked | 17:07 |
lainwir3d | not second one | 17:07 |
sandsmark | really weird... | 17:07 |
lainwir3d | mv Downloads/62.pdf as worked | 17:07 |
lainwir3d | touch bob | 17:08 |
lainwir3d | mv bob as | 17:08 |
lainwir3d | didn't work | 17:08 |
sandsmark | kind of sounds like btrfs not being able to allocate a new metadata chunk | 17:08 |
sandsmark | but you have over 1GB free, and metadata chunks should be 256MB | 17:08 |
sandsmark | brb | 17:08 |
lainwir3d | yeah, it's really weird | 17:09 |
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lainwir3d | sandsmark: doind this as root pose no problem | 17:11 |
lainwir3d | is there user quota on Jolla ? | 17:11 |
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sandsmark | hmm, possibly | 17:12 |
sandsmark | that makes sense | 17:12 |
sandsmark | I'm not familiar enough with btrfs | 17:13 |
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lainwir3d | Metadata, DUP: total=330.00MB, used=166.04MB | 17:14 |
sandsmark | looks okay | 17:15 |
sandsmark | there seems to be some quota groups (btrfs qgroup show /), but I have no idea what the numbers mean :-) | 17:16 |
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lainwir3d | well, i can try disabling quotas... | 17:18 |
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coderus | telegram-purple: https://github.com/majn/telegram-purple | 17:18 |
sandsmark | nice! | 17:19 |
lainwir3d | number on each line represents the subvolume id. The second number represents the amount of space contained within each subvolume (in bytes) and the last number represents the <= found some info on the numbers | 17:19 |
sandsmark | ah, ok | 17:19 |
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lainwir3d | i'm completely lost :-| | 17:23 |
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sandsmark | didn't disabling the quotas help? | 17:23 |
r0kk3rz | coderus: does telepathy do libpurple? | 17:24 |
lainwir3d | sandsmark: it refuse my command | 17:24 |
sandsmark | interesting | 17:24 |
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lainwir3d | btrfs quota disable / | 17:24 |
lainwir3d | ERROR: quota command failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device | 17:24 |
sandsmark | ah, you probably need to specify the right submodule | 17:24 |
sandsmark | eh | 17:25 |
lainwir3d | i dunno which path i'm supposed to give | 17:25 |
sandsmark | subvolume | 17:25 |
sandsmark | /dev/mmcblk0p28 maybe? | 17:25 |
sandsmark | but I hope you have a backup... | 17:25 |
lainwir3d | absolutely not | 17:25 |
sandsmark | it doesn't feel good shooting in the dark with filesystems | 17:25 |
lainwir3d | but well... i'm a bit crazy, so let's do it | 17:25 |
sandsmark | haha | 17:26 |
lainwir3d | ERROR: quota command failed: Invalid argument | 17:26 |
lainwir3d | it's weird root doesn't give me any error when moving files | 17:26 |
sandsmark | yeah, and you're doing it in the same folder? | 17:27 |
lainwir3d | yeah | 17:27 |
sandsmark | that's extremely weird, because the quotas are supposed to be only per volume... | 17:28 |
lainwir3d | hmmm | 17:28 |
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lainwir3d | might try doing a btrfs balance start / | 17:29 |
lainwir3d | alright, let's do it ! | 17:29 |
sandsmark | haha | 17:29 |
lainwir3d | crap : ERROR: error during balancing '/' - No space left on device | 17:29 |
sandsmark | try with the --duse argument first | 17:29 |
sandsmark | eh, -dusage=5 | 17:29 |
sandsmark | then it should only try the low-hanging groups | 17:29 |
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lainwir3d | oops, i pushed the enter key too early and relaunched the command | 17:31 |
lainwir3d | takes more time now | 17:31 |
lainwir3d | seems to be doing some things | 17:31 |
lainwir3d | alright | 17:32 |
lainwir3d | seems to have worked | 17:32 |
lainwir3d | I don't know why though | 17:32 |
sandsmark | heh | 17:32 |
sandsmark | well, I have to run | 17:32 |
sandsmark | see you | 17:33 |
lainwir3d | see you | 17:33 |
lainwir3d | thanks for the tips | 17:33 |
sandsmark | np | 17:33 |
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edipp | im a pysider :) | 22:02 |
edipp | hey thp | 22:03 |
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edipp | im also pyothersider :) | 22:06 |
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coderus | what side are you on? | 22:17 |
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r0kk3rz | never underestimate the power of the cpp side | 22:34 |
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