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| coderus | solved puzzle by adding non-standard import path using version info :) | 01:12 |
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| ilpianista | does the sdk have something like "toast" notification in android? | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | toast? | 09:31 |
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| ilpianista | Stskeeps: they are popup messages like that are shown over the current application and disappears after some sec | 09:32 |
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| ilpianista | well, I just need a way to display a message to the user which disappear after some sec, any idea? | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | fairly sure such one exists | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, messaging app uses it | 09:35 |
| ilpianista | mmm...which app? | 09:35 |
| coderus | ilpianista: there are no toast in Silica UX | 09:35 |
| ilpianista | coderus: neither something like that? | 09:36 |
| coderus | ilpianista: only for real notifications | 09:36 |
| coderus | ilpianista: when you shouw notification to notification screen it showed ad notification banner and disappear, then you can reach all nissed notifications in notification vie | 09:37 |
| ilpianista | nope, notifications are too invasive for what I do. I mean, I'd like to show a message which says "Mode X enabled/disabled" | 09:38 |
| ilpianista | after the user press an iconButton | 09:38 |
| coderus | sorry my sleepy fingers, hope you understand what i wrote :D | 09:38 |
| ilpianista | sure, np | 09:38 |
| locusf | tweetian has a subtle notification when a reply or tweet is posted, check out the source for that | 09:38 |
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| ilpianista | locusf: thanks, taking a look | 09:38 |
| coderus | ilpianista: only lipstick can show system banners | 09:38 |
| coderus | not 3rd party apps | 09:39 |
| coderus | and by silica UX app shouldn't have banners ;) | 09:39 |
| coderus | but you can do it of course | 09:39 |
| coderus | nobody permitting | 09:39 |
| coderus | just some useless info from morning coderus head :D | 09:39 |
| ilpianista | :-) | 09:40 |
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| coderus | well | 09:47 |
| coderus | actually i can tell you how to show same system-like notification banner topmost | 09:48 |
| coderus | but you shouldn't actually use it if it not really important to do | 09:48 |
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| ilpianista | ok, so no thanks ;-P | 09:49 |
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| ilpianista | mmm...for some reason the IconButton doesn't always change it's icon on click (I put something like onClicked: if (swap) { icon.source = "foo"; else icon.source = "bar" }. any idea? | 10:13 |
| ilpianista | sometime it does, sometime it does not | 10:14 |
| ilpianista | it seems that with a long press it works, with a quick one it does not :-/ | 10:18 |
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| coderus | ilpianista: what you mean? what should it change and for? | 10:25 |
| ilpianista | coderus: I've an IconButton that I use as toggle | 10:26 |
| ilpianista | so, it should change it's icon just as feedback for the user | 10:26 |
| coderus | use Switch | 10:26 |
| ilpianista | oh right | 10:27 |
| coderus | it designed for toggle, not IconButton :) | 10:27 |
| ilpianista | thanks :-) | 10:27 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: ping | 10:31 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: can you make some icons for my new app? :) | 10:31 |
| coderus | ilpianista: also for icons, you can use highlights for theme icons | 10:32 |
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| ilpianista | coderus: sorry, I don't get it. What do you mean? | 10:32 |
| coderus | ilpianista: icon.source: "image://theme/icon-m-image?" + (swap ? "#00FF00" : "#FF0000") | 10:33 |
| ilpianista | oh! | 10:33 |
| ilpianista | cool | 10:33 |
| coderus | ilpianista: it will highlight icon (only theme ones can be used this way) | 10:33 |
| ilpianista | yep got it | 10:34 |
| ilpianista | cool | 10:34 |
| coderus | highlighting provided by theme imageProvider | 10:34 |
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| ilpianista | coderus: is there a way to disable the slider animation? | 10:36 |
| coderus | ilpianista: what animation you mean? | 10:36 |
| ilpianista | the one which makes the current value font bigger | 10:36 |
| ilpianista | when you change it | 10:37 |
| ilpianista | I've a row with a fixed height with a Slider onto it. When I change the slider value, the animation makes the row bigger. Then I had to put a workaround which re-size the Row to the fixed height | 10:38 |
| coderus | ilpianista: set fixed height to slider | 10:38 |
| coderus | or set fixed row height | 10:39 |
| coderus | its better | 10:39 |
| coderus | set row.height: Theme.itemSizeMedium | 10:39 |
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| ilpianista | you are right, just setting a fixed row height does the job | 10:40 |
| ilpianista | not sure why it didn't work first time I tried it | 10:41 |
| coderus | prbably you set row.height: slider.height before? | 10:41 |
| ilpianista | could be | 10:42 |
| ilpianista | BTW, I'm writing this :-) https://github.com/ilpianista/Papocchio | 10:42 |
| coderus | good | 10:44 |
| coderus | if you have LG webOS SmartTV you can also test my app :D | 10:45 |
| ilpianista | nope I don't, what your does? | 10:45 |
| coderus | remote control | 10:45 |
| ilpianista | oh :-) | 10:46 |
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| coderus | via local network connection | 10:47 |
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| AlphaX2 | Hi short question, is it possible to access a LocalStorage DB from different apps? Or can I allow a specific app access to a specific DB? | 10:50 |
| coderus | AlphaX2: there are no access restrictions for invoker boosted processes | 10:52 |
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| AlphaX2 | coderus: but how to access the db, because, if I create a db with app A, B can't read it, if I use the same name, description etc. B is creating a own db at ~/.local/share/<app name>/QML/1231443255.sqlite. Can I set a specific path? | 10:56 |
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| anYc_ | Hi, does anyone know if the "friends" application uploads private data like the contacts to FB? | 11:02 |
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| stephg | anYc: I don't think so, but the source is open so do check for yourself | 11:09 |
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| coderus | AlphaX2: using QSqlDatabase | 11:21 |
| anYc | ok thanks. I assume that too but I missed an explicit statement somewhere | 11:21 |
| tortoisedoc_ | mmm | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | is there a way to proof from image://theme if a given image is available | 11:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i know QIcon::hasThemeIcon | 11:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | which apparently works on names only (i.e. without the image://theme/ part) | 11:23 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: QIcon not for theme images | 11:25 |
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| coderus | QFile(QString("/usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/%1.png).arg(iconSource)).exists() | 11:26 |
| coderus | but isn't it better to bundle icons in your package? | 11:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : ugh thats ugly :P | 11:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and yes, it is | 11:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but when you work with other app's icons (Quickbar) | 11:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | you need access to them somehow | 11:27 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: why? | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | maybe | 11:28 |
| coderus | bundle it twice | 11:28 |
| coderus | in each package | 11:28 |
| coderus | getting graphics from other package is bad way | 11:28 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | qdir.exists (filepath) can check theme://image/<aa> as well | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | argh | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | need to connect jolla :/ | 11:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | battery running out | 11:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | been 24 h on 10 % :P | 11:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | not bad | 11:29 |
| coderus | use Solar TOH | 11:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 11:29 |
| coderus | or Dynamo TOH | 11:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Dynamo TOH? :D:D:D: | 11:29 |
| coderus | yeah | 11:30 |
| coderus | dynamo electric machine | 11:31 |
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| Stskeeps | google translate translates jolla with "dinghy with outboard motor" | 11:31 |
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| TemeV | outboard motor TOH, i want that one :) | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | https://twitter.com/llewelld/status/488681659362201601/photo/1 + technics? | 11:32 |
| kimmoli | outboard? | 11:32 |
| kimmoli | heh | 11:32 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | kewl toh's | 11:32 |
| kimmoli | working on that when have time, mindstorm has i2c ... | 11:33 |
| kimmoli | render somewhere | 11:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | been toying around with arduino @ home for a while now | 11:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | need a project for an excuse to use it with jolla (and buy more arduinos :P) | 11:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | btw | 11:35 |
| coderus | i finally installed both u8 and u9 sdk in different chroots, tunneled to different ports and can use and compile in both at the same time :D | 11:35 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | coderus :D | 11:36 |
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| coderus | and patched libMer to ignore vbox :D | 11:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | on same device? | 11:36 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: same laptop, sure | 11:36 |
| coderus | device have u9 only :D | 11:36 |
| TemeV | coderus: you obviously have too much free time :) | 11:36 |
| coderus | TemeV: well | 11:37 |
| coderus | i just want my apps running in both sailfish | 11:37 |
| coderus | btw | 11:37 |
| coderus | this is my trick for loading diffetent qt libraries in runtime: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9041889 | 11:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : i was thinking if it would be possible to use differnt qt's in differnt chroots on device | 11:38 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: well yes | 11:38 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: i thought so | 11:38 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: but it need compatible kernel modules | 11:39 |
| coderus | and i doubt it easily doable | 11:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : hrmm you mean chroot @ kernel level? | 11:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and no, its not going to be easy :P | 11:40 |
| coderus | well, actually i mean booting from u8 or u9 subvolumes | 11:40 |
| coderus | mountimg it to root | 11:40 |
| coderus | Harbour QA here? | 11:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aah ok | 11:42 |
| coderus | can you check if my code valid for Harbour? | 11:42 |
| coderus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9041954 | 11:42 |
| kimmoli | versionfile closed twice just for sure? | 11:44 |
| coderus | oh yes it just typo | 11:45 |
| AlphaX2 | coderus: but in this case I can use only QML/JS | 11:45 |
| coderus | AlphaX2: in this case you can't acccess other app local storage :) | 11:46 |
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| AlphaX2 | coderus: no way to give a path...that sucks | 11:46 |
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| AlphaX2 | with QQmlEngine it's possible to set a path, but Sailfish uses QQuickView? | 11:52 |
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| AlphaX2 | Ahh okay, can access the engine with view->engine() | 11:57 |
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| coderus | ah sure, engine()->setOfflineStoragePath | 12:12 |
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| kimmoli | is it safe to use Qttranslate as "singleshot", not installing it, but load one from /usr/share/translations/ and then translate(NULL, stringtotranslate) | 13:04 |
| kimmoli | at least it works.... | 13:04 |
| coderus | kimmoli: why not to install translator? | 13:05 |
| kimmoli | i need system ones, like sailfish-browser... | 13:07 |
| coderus | so? | 13:07 |
| coderus | install QTranslator | 13:08 |
| coderus | initialize QTranslator with path you want to load translation and set language code | 13:08 |
| coderus | and it should work | 13:08 |
| coderus | you can install as many translators as you need imho | 13:08 |
| kimmoli | to localize application names | 13:08 |
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| kimmoli | i dont want to consume memory to keep them installed 24/7 | 13:09 |
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| coderus | :D | 13:10 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, also if i QProcess::startDetached, the console output of that started program is "coming from" my daemon in journal | 13:12 |
| coderus | why using startDetached? | 13:14 |
| kimmoli | what then? | 13:14 |
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| kimmoli | using xdgopen to start .desktop files | 13:15 |
| kimmoli | launching apps from the daemon | 13:15 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, i could use QDesktopServices... | 13:31 |
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| RzR | pcfe, hi | 16:58 |
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| pcfe | hey RzR | 17:07 |
| RzR | so you're talking about co maintaining some packages ? | 17:08 |
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| RzR | pcfe, sadly I dont use jolla that much ... | 17:09 |
| RzR | pcfe, I keep using n9 | 17:09 |
| pcfe | rzr: I'm fine with co-maintain if we can do this, handing it over to you or just keeping updating it. | 17:10 |
| RzR | pcfe, I cant promise I will keep them up to date | 17:10 |
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| RzR | pcfe, I think neildk is the one that is doing what I did for harmattan | 17:11 |
| RzR | pcfe, lot of stuff in this repo isnt it ? | 17:11 |
| pcfe | must say that when my Jolla returned from reflashing at the company (silly closed blob partition is in the middle of the flash and they do not have images without it and dd instructions for the pother partitions) it took me way too many weeks to switch back from the N9 to the Jolla. N9 just works ;-) | 17:11 |
| pcfe | co maintain might be best then as I also have little time | 17:12 |
| RzR | I put it on my list tough :) | 17:12 |
| RzR | btw why using exfat ? | 17:13 |
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| pcfe | ideally we can check in build instruction files (spec and the deb ones) plus any needed patches(if any) somewhere and binary packages fall out (I use build.merproject.org for that part at the moment) and both be able to do edits. | 17:14 |
| RzR | what about sharing a git tree ? | 17:15 |
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| pcfe | the large µSD cards come pre-formatted with it and my reasoning is that the manuf will have the wear leveling alsogo tuned for the shipped FS. As fuse-exfat is available in source from google and I could recycle rpmfusion spec files, this was jyst an afternoon fiddling for me. Mostly spent with the difference between the fedpkg and obs warappper scriupts around git ;-) | 17:16 |
| pcfe | might as well let end users use this easily, warehouse seems the best solution, but I might be wriong | 17:16 |
| pcfe | RzR: a shared git tree would be perfect. Got a URL I can clone from and do you want a gpg pubkey? | 17:17 |
| RzR | hold on | 17:17 |
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| RzR | let's host it at https://gitorious.org/downstream ? | 17:18 |
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| pcfe | RzR: sounds good | 17:27 |
| RzR | tell me your id | 17:29 |
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| RzR | pcfe, you can commit your files in https://gitorious.org/downstream/exfat/source/devel: | 17:37 |
| RzR | pcfe, or ask to import them | 17:37 |
| pcfe | https://gitorious.org/~pcfe | 17:37 |
| RzR | I granted you | 17:38 |
| pcfe | merci | 17:39 |
| pcfe | where do I RTFM on gitorious and triggering builds? | 17:39 |
| RzR | just use this a regular git :) | 17:40 |
| RzR | then we can make bots to export to obs | 17:40 |
| pcfe | OK. | 17:40 |
| pcfe | just checked both spec files, no patches, that makes it easy. | 17:41 |
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| pcfe | RzR: does the bot to export to obs have a preference for the location of the .spec file? maybe rpm/fuse-exfat.spec (akin to debian/rules)? | 17:56 |
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| RzR | pcfe, tizen uses packaging/%{name}.spec | 17:59 |
| RzR | pcfe, you can use the same convention | 17:59 |
| pcfe | RzR: sounds good | 17:59 |
| RzR | pcfe, do you know gbs ? | 17:59 |
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| pcfe | RzR: that does not ring a bell. what does the acronym expand to? | 18:02 |
| RzR | git build system | 18:03 |
| RzR | some tool over git-build-package | 18:03 |
| RzR | gbs is to tizen what pbuilder is to debian | 18:03 |
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| pcfe | and I guess what fedpkg is to Fedora. Point me to the docs, I'll RTFM | 18:07 |
| RzR | yea I know fedo has something similar | 18:08 |
| RzR | what I like w/ gbs | 18:08 |
| RzR | is the ability to rebase on upstream's git | 18:08 |
| pcfe | ah nice, and once I have a succesful run for my known to build 1.0.1 I've just seen I'll have to anyway update to 1.1.1. Upstream code is on svn, but I assume there will be wrappers | 18:10 |
| RzR | see page12 and later http://www.slideshare.net/rzrfreefr/tizen-upstreamcooptdc2014pcoval | 18:13 |
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| pcfe | RzR: agh, clicky gui slideshare, can I pull the slides somewhere? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | we use mb2 + sb2 in sailfishos development at least | 18:17 |
| RzR | Hi Stskeeps | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | m00 | 18:18 |
| * RzR will not ask about the big thing :) | 18:19 | |
| Stskeeps | the big box of candy next to me? | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:19 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | damn | 18:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | 3 more days | 18:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :O | 18:37 |
| sec | It's coffee | 18:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coffee? | 18:37 |
| sec | Yep | 18:37 |
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| gogeta | lpotter, conmand crashes twice a day | 20:15 |
| gogeta | journalctl -a output is usefull to you ? | 20:16 |
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| dirkvl | Yo! | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | moo dirkvl | 20:18 |
| dirkvl | hey carsten! | 20:18 |
| dirkvl | excited for slush? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | dirkvl: i'm excited about a lot of things :P | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | dirkvl: when are you in .fi anyway? | 20:18 |
| dirkvl | tomorrow evening | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:18 |
| dirkvl | i have a practical question | 20:19 |
| dirkvl | i want to do a full backup of my phone to sd | 20:19 |
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| dirkvl | and the do a full restore on another jolla | 20:19 |
| dirkvl | with all files and apps, daemons, all | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | ie clone it? | 20:20 |
| dirkvl | there was some imstruction somewhere at some point | 20:20 |
| locusf | sailfish-snapshot? | 20:20 |
| dirkvl | but it is a bit swamped in other backup/sd/zendesk stuff | 20:20 |
| dirkvl | y | 20:20 |
| dirkvl | clone | 20:20 |
| dirkvl | bytecopy | 20:20 |
| dirkvl | copy to pc is also fine | 20:22 |
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| zbenjamin | anyone else has problems with very slow UI? It started like a week ago. I lost a SMS when trying to open it from the events view, also opening apps from the events there is horribly slow | 21:07 |
| zbenjamin | it does not seem to be the btrfs bug, i still have > 3Gig free to allocate blocks | 21:07 |
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| Nicd- | zbenjamin: memory and swap full? | 21:34 |
| zbenjamin | Nicd-: even after reboot its the same... Maybe there is some process going wild. But i never saw that a SMS got lost. That concerned me a bit | 21:35 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: btrfs fi show | 22:15 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus: devid 1 size 13.75GB used 10.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 22:16 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus: hey btw :) | 22:16 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: just a heads up. We are finally bringing qmake back into the Ubuntu SDK ;) | 22:17 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: nice :D | 22:42 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: should come to the 15.04 framework in the next 2 weeks or so. | 22:43 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: hope i can finish my current projects until that date | 22:44 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ping me if you need assitance :) would love to see your project on ubuntu phone | 22:46 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: i got some funds for Nexus 4: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/whatsapp-compatible-native-client-for-ubuntu-phone/x/8967673 | 22:58 |
| kengu | coderus: what was/is the problem with mitäkuuluu users being banned by whatsapp | 22:59 |
| coderus | but whatsapp project will be delayed actually because of whatsapp protocol changing right now | 22:59 |
| kengu | . | 22:59 |
| kengu | (: | 23:00 |
| coderus | kengu: there are more probjems than just banning | 23:00 |
| kengu | or :| | 23:00 |
| coderus | soon you can't receive any messages from other clients because of encryption | 23:00 |
| coderus | whatsapp enabled end-to-end encryption | 23:00 |
| coderus | using textsecure whispersystems :D | 23:00 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: they are changing the protocol again ? Jeez .. i wonder why they do not open a offical API at least for paid accounts like so many other companies do | 23:01 |
| kengu | hmm. interesting | 23:01 |
| coderus | we didn't cracked it yet | 23:01 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: crap | 23:01 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: that stuff? https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/ | 23:03 |
| coderus | Curve25519 + Axolotl and some whatsapp custom spices because it's not plain textsecure protocol :D | 23:03 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: yep | 23:03 |
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| coderus | this one: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/blob/master/libaxolotl/src/main/java/org/whispersystems/libaxolotl/ecc/Curve25519.java | 23:03 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus: so i guess every client is going to create its own keypair? Is the protocol itself also encrypted? | 23:06 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: it's only for texts | 23:07 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ah they changed the encryption with their own custom algorithms ok ... now thats ugly | 23:08 |
| zbenjamin | and very questionable ... | 23:09 |
| kengu | so extend mitäkuuluu to telegram and what else.. | 23:09 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: yep, something is changed with this | 23:09 |
| coderus | kengu: no, thanks | 23:09 |
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| kengu | i would like to use whatsapp on my ipad but as i have no iphone it is a bit difficult to install it. the whatsapp strategy is a bit weird.. uhm.. different from my ideology | 23:11 |
| kengu | wechat is also an option | 23:12 |
| zbenjamin | kengu: the whatsapp strategy is really bad. Only one device, no webclient, no open APIs. But sadly thats what people chose to use :( | 23:13 |
| kengu | yeah | 23:13 |
| kengu | they were too good in ..um.. what is it.. marketing, penetrating, .. | 23:13 |
| zbenjamin | kengu: basically only because its really easy. You upload your phonebook and if anyone else you know uses whatsapp you can instantly communicate. | 23:14 |
| zbenjamin | kengu: so people don't need to bother with nicknames/email adress whatever | 23:14 |
| zbenjamin | kengu: i wonder really why they do not open up their apis. They can still make it a requirement that you can use the API only with a paid account | 23:16 |
| zbenjamin | kengu: which would open the whole thing up to many different use cases.... | 23:16 |
| * zbenjamin imagines his own dedicated whatsapp client running on a server | 23:17 | |
| coderus | zbenjamin: https://web.whatsapp.com | 23:17 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: why does that need a google account? | 23:22 |
| kengu | http://www.zdnet.com/tencent-launches-online-voice-call-app-based-on-wechat-7000035768/ hmm.. interesting | 23:24 |
| zbenjamin | kengu: there is lots of interesting stuff, but as long as most people do not use it you are forced to the common used thing | 23:27 |
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| kengu | zbenjamin: so I need to chat with chinese friends. i was able to avoid whatsapp until this autumn but now there is some study related pressure as you stated everyone is using whatsapp | 23:29 |
| kengu | the first MSc I was able to gain with IRC but this second.. nope. | 23:30 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus: that site does not work for me | 23:33 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: sure, it's not officially launched :) | 23:37 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ok ;) | 23:37 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: still i don't understand why its using google accounts | 23:37 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: it just restricted by accounts :) | 23:38 |
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