Saturday, 2014-12-20

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King_DuckZhello, has anybody tried to build cocos2dx on sailfish yet?00:59
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Almindorhow does one use the Qt5 .qm translation files with sailfish SDK/releasing? how do I package the .qm files with my project so they can be used?07:48
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AcceAlmindor: check how the default example app does it to find out the exact process08:33
AlmindorAcce, there's a sailfish example with translations in it?08:33
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Acceyes, every project you create should have example translation for DE08:53
AcceI think it was08:53
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tortoisedocgiucam : ping10:46
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tortoisedochas anyone here a suggestion on how to force rendering on a qquickwindow?10:47
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tortoisedocit appears my window stops rendering after 4/5 frame swpas10:47
tortoisedocand then resumes only during specific transitions  (from cover to app and back)10:48
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tortoisedocbtw my window has a normal blue rectangle in it10:48
tortoisedocspecifically I am relying on the swapFrame slot10:48
tortoisedocI would like to know if there is a way to force the window to render say 25 times per sec10:49
tortoisedocpossibly without timers10:49
tortoisedocI suppose I could rely on a OpenGL Window..10:50
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Yanielwhy without timers?11:37
tortoisedocYaniel : cleaner and more deterministic11:37
Yanieland why should it update outside transitions11:37
Yanielor actual changes in content11:37
tortoisedocYaniel : cause I want it to :P11:40
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coderusis there any chance i can release powerkey configuration utility in Harbour?12:09
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VDVsxcoderus, contact developer care, tell in advance what is not according to current rules :)12:10
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coderuswell, it doesn't using anything  restricted12:13
VDVsxso ?12:13
coderusjust they can tell me "we cannot accept such software" :)12:14
coderusjust want to know if there are some restrictions against this kind of apps12:15
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VDVsxif it does not break anyway and does not use anything restricted, I don't see a reason for rejection, best is try :)12:17
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tad_Hey, is there anyway to SSH into my Jolla if a) I can't connect to wifi b) I can't tick dev mode on to use it via USB`(Lol I locked myself out :()13:01
tbrif you have a mobile network connection that allows inbound, possibly13:03
tbrit might be easier though to just unf*ck your phone using the rescue shell13:03
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tad_I can't use recMode/shell, I cant type that stupid code again right :D:D13:04
tad_I'm doooomed13:04
tbrstupid code?13:05
tad_Security(lock/whatever code13:05
tbrso you forgot it?13:05
tad_Stupid U10 :(13:05
tad_Kind of :D13:06
tbrwell, if you forgot the code, that's not U10s fault, is it?13:06
gogetaStskeeps, good article13:06
gogetaabout tab adaptation13:06
gogetaSome people who care about mobile ... need to read it13:07
gogetais not about the spec13:07
gogetail all about the shit inside13:07
tad_It is and it isn't :( I enabled that stupid alphanumeric kdb (didn't change lock code though) and I "forgot" how to write my numeric key13:08
tad_GZ me13:08
coderustad_: currently you can use your phone and install apps?13:08
tbrdoes the phone know any wifi networks it would connect to?13:08
tbris developer mode on aka ssh enabled?13:09
tad_SSH is enabled but no wifi :|13:09
coderususb cable?13:09
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tad_coderus: only problem in that case is I can't tap dev mode "on" because I've that lock code :/13:11
coderustad_: wait13:11
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coderustbr: what if install usb-moded-systemd-rescue-mode ?13:11
coderustbr: can it help if devmode disabled? no?13:12
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coderustad_: is installing untrusted software enabled?13:12
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coderuscan install dummy rpm restarting usb-moeded in rescue mode13:13
coderusbut well, do you remember your old password?13:13
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tbror use fingerterm13:14
tbralso I thought Jolla said they could supply a "binary that resets things if you remember the code"13:15
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tad_I remember it but I "can't" write it right :---------D13:16
tad_Tried already accessing recmode shell like 100 times13:16
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tad_Maybe 100 more helps..13:17
tbrso are you able to unlock the screen in normal mode? because I'm confused now. (I didn't fully get the whole problem with u10 anyway as I was busy)13:18
tad_I'm unable to do anything :D Can't acces phone /shell because I can't write my lock code right anymore.. (damn me & alphanumeric kbd)13:19
ulvusHello sailers13:20
coderustad_: you want to have numpad keyboard to write your code right?13:21
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tad_coderus: yep13:21
coderusokay, i can supply then :D13:21
coderustad_: running or
tbrcoderus: how is he going to install that if he can't unlock his screen?13:23
tbrjust saying...13:23
tbrthat's a care case13:24
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coderusah, can't unlock screen?13:24
Sail0rfactory reset via usb?13:24
coderusi missed that :D13:24
tbrSail0r: that asks for lock code13:24
coderustbr: so then13:24
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coderustad_: ^13:25
coderusremember your code13:25
tad_Or don't enable alphanumeric kdb so you can't write it again13:25
tad_Well yeah, care ->13:25
tad_Thanks anyway :D13:25
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coderusthts why i have usb-moded-systemd-rescue-mode installed13:26
coderusit helps a lot :D13:26
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coderusthp: ping14:03
coderusthp: can org.nemomobile.configuration be used for receiving propertyChanged signal?14:03
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anYcis still valid after the latest update?14:08
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coderusno new sdk was released yet14:14
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coderusspecial: ping14:16
anYcok thanks! ( still points to the old version )14:16
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coderusthp: special: seems if there are no PropertiesChanged in introspection, it can't be used with org.nemomobile.configuration ?14:41
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MoritzJTAnyone with experience on modem for Jolla here?14:45
MoritzJTMy 3g won't work anymore after update 1014:45
MoritzJT4g & 2g do...14:45
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coderustried sailfish utilities reset?14:53
MoritzJTDid... No change. Testing situations currently - that disables modem instead of mobile data for the latter option but it worked fine on Update 9. Maybe it fucked up on Update 1014:55
AlmindorI'm testing out my app with translations, everything works fine in the emulator if I export LANG=ru in  the terminal and start the app14:55
Almindorbut if I run the app on my Jolla phone which is set to russian it still just displays english14:56
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AlmindorQLocale report "C" as QLocale() language15:03
merlin1991lbt: can we have a chum repo for again please15:06
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coderusAlmindor: run with desktop icon15:25
coderusand language is ru_RU, not just ru15:25
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coderusseems /org/mpris/MediaPlayer2 have no PropertiesChanged in introspection... how then?15:25
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Almindor coderus: so running from the SDK will always have it set to C locale?15:27
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r0kk3rzAlmindor: yeah it will15:30
r0kk3rzi just switch my phone into whatever language to test15:31
Almindorr0kk3rz, well my phone is set to russian that was the point..15:31
r0kk3rzyeah, so it should be fine if you close the app and run from the launcher15:31
Almindoryeah it is..15:32
Almindorthat's kind of stupid to keep it to C locale, I guess it's an ssh/process parent kind of thing15:32
r0kk3rzyou might be able to set some debug options, i have no idea15:33
AlmindorI think it's just the way they execute it15:33
Almindorif you go ssh nemo@PHONE you'll get your own locale15:33
Almindorthe connecting computer's (or C if it's not supported)15:33
r0kk3rzcoderus: pretty sure the mpris spec is supposed to have propertieschanged15:36
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coderusokay, sent it to devel mailing list. best hopes.16:11
coderusif i wont receive an answer soon, i'll just create simple MPRIS2 qml extension library16:12
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Nokiuscoderus: you hope not all sailors are on x-mas holidays?16:21
jwalckanyone in here running openvpn on their sailfish device? the openrepos rpm has unmet dependencies so thinging I may build it myself if there isn't an easier way out:)16:22
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tbrjwalck: yeah, something like a proper maintained package on chum would have been nice16:23
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jwalcktbr: chum?16:24
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coderusNokius: sure, i hope :)16:25
Nokiuscoderus: :) lets see16:25
coderusi'd like to see developers like me who can code 24/7 :D16:25
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tbrjwalck: a concept where the community would come together and maintain one common repository for packaged open source applications. backed by the Mer OBS16:25
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jwalcktbr: sounds like music to my ears, is it initiated anywhere or just a concept so far?16:26
Nokiuscoderus: true | you never sleep right =)16:26
tbrjwalck: it's suffering from low adoption so far16:26
coderusNokius: i'm sleeping day and coding night :D16:27
tbrpeople seem to prefer single shot "apply hammer until it builds, upload random binary" repositories with questionable maintainership16:27
tbrbecause doing things well is harder16:27
jwalcktbr: if both alternatives where in front of people I don't think they'd prefer that16:28
jwalckbut of course this option requires work. people prefer not to work I guess:)16:28
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r0kk3rzlbt: whatcha fixing?16:44
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merlin1991lbt, almost ;) I'm thinking about something that has an url like:
merlin1991like we had up untill
tbrhmm, did I miss some discussion?17:07
merlin1991maybe I missed something, was chum abandoned?17:07
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tbrmerlin1991: no it wasn't17:11
tbrit just is still lacking an active base community17:12
merlin1991then we definitely need a repo for the current sailfish version :)17:12
tbryes, I asked on #mer17:12
tbrI think we should get a channel of our own for Chum17:13
tbrit would focus dicussion17:13
merlin1991makes sense17:13
merlin1991but then again, how many are there interested in chum?17:13
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tbrhopefully a growing number17:14
r0kk3rz theres a bit of lack of advertisement about chum17:14
tbrsee jwalck17:15
r0kk3rzthat it exists, what it is, how to use it17:15
tbrr0kk3rz: that's a chicken-egg problem17:15
tbrbut yes, moar wiki pages should be written17:15
jwalckyes, I had no idea chum existed until 30 mins ago. But yes, interested both in its existance and contributing too if I just find my way to getting started:)17:15
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r0kk3rzyeah getting started type stuff, crash course on RPM packaging and such17:16
r0kk3rzi can happily compile stuff for myself on my phone, but that doesnt help anyone else17:16
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merlin1991jwalck: start maintaining a package and create a request for it to be added to the yet to arrive chum repo for the current sailfish version :)17:17
merlin1991tbr: do we even have a single chum wiki page atm?17:18
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merlin1991tbr: and would be the right place to set one up?17:19
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* tbr is now over in #sailfishos-chum - merlin1991 jwalck r0kk3rz 17:25
tbrr0kk3rz: I hosted a workshop during 30C3 on that topic17:26
tbrbut there were no slides or anything17:26
tbrit was more about hands on17:26
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r0kk3rzmust get myself along to one of these conferences sometime17:28
r0kk3rzthey sound like fun17:28
Nokius_tbr: tried to remaber your talk from Jan/Feb at cbase about obs during the libgato and salmeta fork build you told us all and only my brain lacks17:28
jwalckI was at 29C3 last, I'll miss this upcoming one too17:29
* tbr had to sadly skip 31C317:29
r0kk3rzbut basically, the easier it is to contribute the better17:31
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lbttbr: please no more channels - I have too many and this is the right one for chum - pretty please :)17:37
lbtr0kk3rz: exhaust mount lost a nut and the exhaust hung loose17:37
tbrlbt: I have 94 windows right now. I know the pain17:37
tbrlbt: I still feel though that stuff gets lost and we need focus17:38
lbtwe also need to collaborate - and it's not like this chan is so noisy we can't17:38
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lbtlike #qt or similar17:38
r0kk3rzlbt: that sucks, hopefully nothing too damaged17:39
cybojenixheh, lbt if you find a way to do it, let us know ;)17:39
lbtI think I'd rather see channels split when the subject is so busy it annoys people17:39
lbtr0kk3rz: nah - really rattly ... you'd think after decades of hording I'd have a 13mm nut!17:40
jwalcklbt: I agree, there's not that much traffic in here. its extremely quiet for having 335 ppl in it actually17:40
lbtI found bits of my motorbike I took off 10 years ago ... no nuts17:40
lbtjwalck: and by working on chum stuff in here we actually share and get new blood17:41
r0kk3rzlbt: yeah ive got a bike like that17:41
r0kk3rzspends most of the time in bits, always needs new nuts and bolts17:41
tbrlbt: I still find things get lost in the noise of other topics and join/part17:41
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lbttbr: I did stop join/part msgs17:42
lbtanyhow... I started the stuff but it's my wife's birthday so I'm off now17:42
lbtI'll finish up and do a chum for it tomorrow or monday17:42
tbrtell her our best wishes17:42
lbtI will - she'll like that17:42
jwalcklbt: send a congrats from the Internet. have a nice evening o/17:42
lbthaha .. she waves ... OK 'night all17:44
cybojenixanyone know which jolla guys were at xda devcon?17:45
Nokius_cybojenix: lbt17:45
cybojenixhe seemed decent, but didn't get chance to have drinks with him17:46
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Nokius_cybojenix: and a second guy but i dont know his irc nick sorry17:47
Nokius_cybojenix: and from the community vgrade and me17:47
cybojenixthat's alright. I think he's the guy I was talking to anyway17:48
cybojenixheh, glad to finally find more people who actually went17:48
cybojenixwho was the guy who came in with a feature phone (he had a jolla device too)17:49
cybojenixwhich feature phone was it?17:49
Nokius_cybojenix: Nokia C1-0017:50
Nokius_cybojenix: import from Asia17:50
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cybojenixmy phone was older17:51
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* Nokius_ 'ditro hops now cu'17:54
Nokius_will update my machine to other distro17:55
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stephggood evening guys18:14
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hasdfmy phone doesn't show the new update. any ideas? maybe because of german language?18:53
ln-are you a first one?18:53
r0kk3rzhasdf because its not released for general consumption yet18:53
hasdfit does show up to date (
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hasdfln-, no18:54
hasdfr0kk3rz, how can I get it?18:54
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ln-by waiting until monday18:55
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locusfor updating to u918:56
locusfand then to u1018:56
r0kk3rzyeah wait until monday18:57
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coderushasdf: probably you f**ed ssu flavour :)19:10
coderushasdf: check ssu fl in terminal19:10
coderushasdf: 1.0.8 is latest available, not 1.0.719:10
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coderushasdf: oh, probably its just a typo and you mean you have installed?19:11
hasdfcoderus, it was a typo - sry19:13
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coderuswell, release is public now, you will get it as soon as possible. no additional actions required :)19:25
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beidl_can someone please explain to me why qt5-qtdeclarative-import-folderlistmodel is a harbour-allowed requires while its QML imports are disallowed?19:40
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Stskeepsgood question, mail developer care?19:41
beidlI probably will, thanks19:42
beidlI mean, yes, I see why it might be a disallowed import (since it's in the Qt.labs namespace) but why have it in the allowed-requires then? I wonder19:44
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coderusbeidl: where folderlistmodel listed as allowed?20:02
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r0kk3rzbeidl: so in theory you could import that, then set it as a context property on your qml engine20:29
r0kk3rzand harbour wouldnt complain?20:30
coderusr0kk3rz: how?20:32
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r0kk3rznevermind, just me misunderstanding things20:33
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jcbjoehi late to the convo20:34
jcbjoeso i heard the update was public20:34
jcbjoethats good news right ?20:34
coderusr0kk3rz: we can re-register types if have headers for source classes20:34
coderusthen no problems, right20:34
coderusbut existing qml extensions - no20:35
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coderusSpot a new patch on screenshot:
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r0kk3rzcoderus: thats using mpris?21:06
r0kk3rzif so, it will also work with sirensong and quasarmx21:07
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coderusr0kk3rz: yes21:18
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r0kk3rzcoderus: using a listener service?21:22
r0kk3rzmake service also listen for headjack events, and autoplay on headphone insert21:22
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coderusr0kk3rz: no, it just mpris2 control21:29
r0kk3rzprobably a better fit in the player anyway21:32
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coderusr0kk3rz: i dont understand you21:46
coderusabout headphone control? sure, it should be in player :)21:48
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r0kk3rzplayer will need a service to autolaunch anyway21:56
r0kk3rzand provide mpris raise functionality21:57
sandsmarkautolaunch player when you insert the headset?21:59
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r0kk3rzauto launch and auto play22:00
r0kk3rzpoweramp on android does it, i find it useful22:01
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sandsmarkit sounds annoying to me, but to each his own22:01
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sandsmarkcoderus is an mce master now, so he probably has some hints if you want to implement it :D22:02
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r0kk3rzyeah need to figure out how to listen for headjack events22:03
r0kk3rzknow how to do everything else22:03
sandsmarktry running dbus-monitor when you plug it in?22:04
r0kk3rzas for annoying, what do you use your headjack for other than listening to music?22:04
sandsmarkI usually want to select what I'm going to listen to first22:04
sandsmarkand I usually plug in before I put them in my ears22:04
r0kk3rzi find it nice and quick for use in car22:05
r0kk3rzdont even have to unlock the phone, just jack in and go22:05
sandsmarkoh, and I do occasionally watch videos as well22:05
r0kk3rzyeah true22:06
r0kk3rzi dont tend to do that on my phone22:06
r0kk3rzim not a big youtuber anyway22:06
sandsmarkwell, I have a season of star trek tng on my sd card :p22:07
r0kk3rzbut thats ok, im the one thats writing the music player app, so i can have it however i want :P22:07
sandsmarkyeah :D22:08
sandsmarkbut yeah, look with dbus-monitor when plugging in?22:08
r0kk3rzi remember trying that a while ago22:10
r0kk3rzbut couldnt see anything useful22:10
sandsmarkhmm, ok22:10
r0kk3rzbut i know a bit more about dbus now22:10
r0kk3rzso might be worth investigating a bit more22:10
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sandsmarkmy guesses would be either pulseaudio or mce22:11
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kimmolior evdev, /dev/input/event6: EV_SW - SW_HEADPHONE_INSERT - 122:17
coderussandsmark: what are you talking about?22:17
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sandsmarkcoderus: detecting when the headset is plugged in22:17
r0kk3rzkimmoli: nice!22:19
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coderussandsmark: ah, but i'm not developing players :)22:27
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sandsmarkcoderus: no, but you're an MCE master :D22:28
coderusi can help eviljazz or anyone to implement it in player :D22:28
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