Friday, 2014-12-19

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ToxipSailfishOS reddcoin wallet... make some noise over there and show them we want one!01:19
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keestu_hi all, i have a basic question about sailfishos. So, it is a SDK to develop programs on Top of ios/android/windows ?04:32
salyavinThe SDK I use is on Linux using Virtualbox.04:34
salyavinkaestu_ please go to
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salyavinas you see it's for Mac and Win as well04:35
salyavinThey still need to update the SDK for today's u10 release but those should work just great.04:35
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keestu_salyavin, thanks for reply. that's true. so, it is not for mobile platforms?.05:10
Turskikeestu_: sailfish is mobile platform05:11
Turskikeestu_: but ofcourse you need a desktop platform to develop the software for that05:11
keestu_Reason why i am asking is we have a our own imx6 development board, where i see if the possibility of porting sailfish os.05:11
Turskikeestu_: just develop that software with QT in mind05:12
keestu_Turski,   i can develop app with Qt library as well. that what is the difference using sailfish os ?05:13
Turskikeestu_: if you use QT5, there's no problems on bringing it for sailfish05:14
Turskiexcept few import limitations05:14
TurskiQT4 is problem05:15
keestu_so, if i use saifish, then entire os is replaced ?. say android for example ?05:15
nykackeestu_: yes05:15
TurskiQT libraries are cross-platform05:16
nykackeestu_: sailfish is an os, similar to android05:16
Turskii don't know if there's any other cross-platform libraries for UI components..?05:16
keestu_Cool. we are porting android into imx board, so, we should be able to port sailfishos also right ?.05:16
Turskikeestu_: basically if you choose to use QT05:17
keestu_turski, you mean QT to develop applications on top of sailfish os right ?05:17
Turskikeestu_: QT is the basic library whole sailfish is depending on05:18
Turskii have no idea what's the basic thing on android or on iOS05:19
Turskibut as far as i know, QT is very much cross-platform05:19
keestu_Turski, true, so, [hardware] -> [linux] -> [sailfish] -[ Applications ] ,  that r the layers right ?05:19
Turskikeestu_: as far as i understand, yes05:19
Turskibut maybe i should go to sleep, it's 7.21 AM already05:21
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Turskii still have the possibility to fall asleep before sun is rising05:21
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keestu_Oh. Turski  good night then take care. ;)05:24
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coderusReport in06:34
coderussledges ^06:35
ulvusits 7.30 am , dk gmt+106:35
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ulvusim learning to code and virtualbox and christmas shopping for food and candy and cola they next days.06:36
ulvusso its christmas holiday now here today06:37
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ulvussledges? picture06:40
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coderusno. sledges ->
ulvuswhats that, like p or anduino06:44
urjamanlooks like FPGA to me06:44
urjaman(very blurry though...)06:45
urjamanmaybe not ...06:45
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ulvusjam urjaman06:47
ulvusblurry ?06:47
urjamanwell, that Altera logo wasnt the most clear06:49
ulvusoh altera06:50
urjamananyways, I should've read the known issues on U10 ... vice city sound stutters :|06:51
ulvusu10 sailfiish?06:53
urjaman"Audio stuttering has been observed in Android applications. We are06:55
urjamanaware of this issue and are still working on it. We will push out an06:55
ulvusarent in jailfish os vm yet06:55
urjamanupdate as soon as a fix is available." ... thanks06:55
urjamanapparently they took being an opt-in for U9 as opt-in for early U10 availability (== it asked me if i want it)... or did they just send it to all?06:56
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ulvusdont know but Stskeep and other community and are working on it. i think,. great work and cooperation by my littlebrother and community i think06:59
ulvusand article to read for us all07:00
tigeliurjaman: update is not available for all yet07:00
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m4g0gYesterday was released a new version of sailfish. If I developing application in old sdk  what challenges I can meet?07:21
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Nicd-m4g0g: the U9 SDK (1410) already has Qt 5.2 so you should be fine with that07:24
m4g0gbut I have older version than U907:25
Nicd-then upgrade to 1410 :)07:26
m4g0gU9 was released with new dialogs?07:26
m4g0gbut how I can test application on phone if I haven't new os version?07:26
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Nicd-haven't you upgraded your phone?07:27
m4g0gThere is no upgrade in my country now07:27
Nicd-do you have U9 on your phone?07:28
m4g0gNicd-: no07:28
urjaman"Update:  Do not use alphanumeric lock code feature yet. Release roll-out on hold to fix an issue discovered w.r.t it." ...07:28
Nicd-oh yeah, that07:28
Nicd-m4g0g: well if you want to test what your app looks like on U9 or U10 then you need to use the 1410 SDK emulator07:29
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Nokius_no hotfix so fare?08:07
Armadillohotfix for what?08:08
locusfalnum lock08:08
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Nokius_will get some breakfast08:09
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coderusm4g0g: u9 and u10 is almost same at qt side, don't worry about it08:37
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coderusfix for devlock is under developing08:38
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Nokius_coderus: :) I was assuming this08:42
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m4g0gany ideas?08:46
Nokius_oh I see it added on tjc :)08:51
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Armadillois there any known issue with the TextSwitch element where the description exceeds the bottom element border?08:53
SK_workArmadillo: I guess there can be08:53
ArmadilloI have a textswitch in a list item delegated by a SilicaListview and it's not possible to control the height of the textswitch08:53
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Armadillohm :-/08:55
Armadillomaybe I should ask this on the mailing list08:55
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Armadillowriting my own textSwitch element could be a solution09:00
Armadilloalthough I don't like this type of double work09:01
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SK_workArmadillo: yes, put a test-case too please09:07
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Armadilloyes, I'll try to include a simple test case, mine has very much code around it09:17
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* xkr47 keeps reloading the 71741 question to see when the "on hold" status would get dropped from vaarainjärvi :)09:46
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Nokiusvgrade tbr locusf javispedro qwazix sorry my fault -->
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qwazixNokius, no worries09:52
qwazixnext year09:52
Nokiusqwazix: I heard u will give a lightning talk :)09:53
qwazixYeah, my talk is accepted :excited:09:53
* tbr isn't even sure if he'll be able to afford FOSDEM this time, so no difference to me09:54
Nokiustbr: whats with your room? iirc you booked one ?09:55
tbrNokius: I only have reservations, I can cancel 24h in advance. I consciously didn't book a flight yet as that would be non-refundable.09:55
Nokiustbr: okay do you know the price for it and location?09:56
* qwazix updated the wiki with talk info and link09:56
coderusm4g0g: u9 and u10 is almost same at qt side, don't worry about it09:57
m4g0gbut my phone has only U809:57
coderusArmadillo: show code09:57
coderusm4g0g: you need to install u9 sdk as soon as you install u1009:58
m4g0gcoderus: I understand. When I can download U10 I will install u9 sdl09:58
coderusArmadillo: put everything inside column10:00
coderusm4g0g: right10:00
coderusand u10 sdk will be released week later10:00
coderusArmadillo: in your case put switch inside column10:00
coderusArmadillo: and remove everything you copied from ListItem internals10:00
coderusno bugs in ListView/TextSwitch here10:01
coderusi have to go now10:01
ArmadilloI'll try10:03
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WntHave you noticed that the QML font rendering gets really bad when the font size gets larger:
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Wntor maybe the default font just looks bad at large font sizes?10:12
Nicd-you can see that in the UI, looking at the current time10:13
Nicd-it has been like that from the start10:14
Nicd-I think it's the font10:14
Wntmaybe it's some kind of CPU optimized font that doesn't have any curves10:14
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Wntinstead of the vector only consists of straight lines10:14
WntI also wrote that to the TJC question "The same problem can also be witnessed in the lockscreen clock, but the as the font is a bit smaller there, the problem is not so clearly visible.""10:15
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tbrNokius: check the st nicolas. it probaly still has those10:23
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Armadillocoderus removing anchors.fill from textSwitch fixed the issue, but your hint brought me to the solution, thanks :)10:27
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mekluhmm, sdl2 still gives a black screen on the device10:29
Nokiustbr: sounds good10:30
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Nokiustbr lets see10:50
pp_oooh, systemtap! <310:50
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ln-i know i18n and l10n, but i10n is something entirely new:
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anandrkrisHi - A question for those of you not busy with hotfix for U10 ;-)11:36
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anandrkrisIn phone app, does 'Save as Contact' option appear for you when Quick calling is disabled?11:37
anandrkrisi mean, for unsaved numbers11:37
Armadilloanandrkris no, instead of save as contact I have send message11:44
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Nicd-yes it does11:50
Nicd-it's in the pulldown menu11:50
Nicd-there's 'Save' and 'Link'11:50
ArmadilloI think he means on the list11:50
Nicd-then why specify that quick call is disabled?11:51
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Armadillobecause this changes the context menu behaviour11:52
meklubecause it might affect the situation in case it's coded weirdly11:52
Nicd-Armadillo: does it change it?11:52
ArmadilloI think the intention was, that you already can save the contact on the number specific page11:52
Armadilloso the context menu item can be used for another use case11:52
ArmadilloNi yes11:52
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anandrkrisArmadillo: okies...makes sense (somewhat)11:57
anandrkriswas confused for a moment that the option disappeared11:57
Armadillosame here :D11:57
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Armadillohad to check it twice to be sure I really saw it :D11:57
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anandrkrisIMO, there's no harm in showing it in both cases - saves few steps11:58
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anandrkrisAnyways, now at least i know how to get it done :-)11:59
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coderuswow, usch a new bug:
coderusm4g0g: okay12:37
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Armadillolol i didn't know clipboard has a context menu :D12:39
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Armadillovery interesting, thanks^^12:39
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Armadillocoderus that did the trick:
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Armadilloyour hint brought me to the solution, thanks ;)12:44
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mekluany way to adjust the port the web interface in the IDE runs on?
meklualready have something on 8080 and have never bothered investigating what that had in store12:55
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coderusArmadillo: :)13:29
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coderusmeklu: edit mersdk config13:30
coderusidk if it editable from gui or not13:30
meklucoderus: thanks, jotted that down in my TODO13:31
coderussledges: lol, reverting alphanumeric functions? :D13:36
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sledgescoderus: would you risk more lockouts before doing it 110% on features like devicelock?13:39
coderusokay :D13:39
urjamanI'm finding it difficult to imagine why this is so hard, but yeah, stuff like that should be tested properly, so I'm okay with a "revert until we test it properly"13:40
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M4rtinKwell, it is working as intended :)13:43
M4rtinKit is a screen *lock* :)13:43
urjamanyeah, case of "this lock works too well" :P13:43
mekluwhat's better than an unbreakable lock? ;)13:43
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M4rtinKit would be called un-/lock if it could be also unlocked :)13:44
coderussledges: what about used who have enabled alphanumeric in u10? after installing hotfix update devices will be bricked? :D13:46
coderussledges: there are many peoples who not reading twitter/tjc, already installed u10 and will install hotfix13:46
urjamanwell, hopefully they're only disabling the creation of new alphanumeric passwords...13:47
M4rtinKjust make it possible to input alphabet using a numeric keyboard - problem solved :)13:47
sledgescoderus: got that covered, thanks for good eyes;)13:48
M4rtinKlike on a normal phone or binary ASCII/Unicode representation :)13:48
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coderussledges: how?13:52
mekluprobably going to revert those to no lock or something13:54
M4rtinKmeklu: yep, that seems to be the most sensible thing to do13:54
sledgesthat would mean we're clearing device codes which is security issue if you give deeper thought into it, so no13:55
sledgesbeer bet time?13:55
M4rtinKjust show a "blah reverted blah, enter a new *numeric* key"13:55
coderusjust wanted to write same :D13:55
Nicd-yeah, I wonder if it's even possible to reset the code without inputting it first13:56
coderussledges: i have only one in my mind: request to setup numberic key before updating to hotfix13:56
coderusNicd-: sure, using jolla rnd tools :D13:56
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louisdkI keep getting premission denied trying to ssh to my Jolla. I've installed u10, enabled dev mode and both my Jolla and Linux laptop is on the same network. Password is set.13:57
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coderuslouisdk: reboot after enabling devmode to start ssh server on device :)13:57
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louisdkcoderus, have tried didn't help. Strange enough it worked yesterday without rebooted needed.13:59
urjaman(a) that shouldnt be needed anymore and (b) "permission denied" sounds like something the ssh server would say13:59
sledgesbeer bet is still on ;P13:59
coderussledges: alphanumberic keypad will be showed once after update completed to enter old devicelock code and then only numpad available?14:01
mekluif anyone managed to update with the alphanumerics, just turn those into the corresponding number keys and keep the numbers as numbers?14:01
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mekluand make it into a number lock14:01
sledgescoderus: closer14:01
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sledgesmeklu: farther, but nice idea:)14:01
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coderussledges: so, it's happening after update?14:04
meklu1, 1, 1... err... 114:04
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coderussledges: no hints? :)14:07
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sledgesgave as much;)14:10
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pp_just block enabling it but keep other code as-is :-)14:21
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coderussledges: its like asking to change code after booting, but not exactly?14:27
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sledgescoderus: cold:)14:36
coderusnumpad will have multitap features to enter alphanumeric?14:38
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coderusrequezt to clear devicelock code before update?14:40
coderusrequest to clear d2vicelock code after update?14:42
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coderuslimit exceeded? :D15:10
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vgradeNokius: no worries, plenty of places to meetup15:17
TemeVIs there somewhere documentation about sleep behaviour with Sailfish?15:19
TemeVwhen and how deep sleep the phone goes15:20
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xfade_pssssssst ;)16:11
tigeliwake up, wake up! :D16:12
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coderussledges: none?16:18
Yanieldid I miss something?16:18
xfade_Yaniel: yes16:20
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Yanielthis was not the downtimeI needed nor the one I deserved16:21
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coderussledges: okay. i have an answer for your beer question.16:28
coderusit's so obvious and because of that it's so simple (stupid?)16:30
coderusand because of that my mazelock will have a big problems to implement :D16:31
coderussledges: can we expect devicelock alphanumeric will be solved in this year? :D16:31
coderussledges: can i publish answer about devicelock please? :D16:31
TemeVi think reading the answer from tjc counts as cheating16:35
coderusah :D16:36
coderusit's released16:36
coderusstupid me :D16:36
coderusvery stupid coderus :D16:38
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Nokiuscool hotfix is out! :)16:43
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Nokiusbtw why the backup of Playlist is gone since U1016:49
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coderussledges: ping17:42
coderusproper patch:
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coderusNokius: wanna test it before i release it on openrepos as patchmanager patch?17:51
Nokiuscoderus: newer used patchmanager so fare why not :)17:52
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Nokiuscoderus: sledges is on holiday until 02.01.1517:52
coderusNokius: save this paste as file17:53
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coderuspkcon install patch17:53
coderuscd /folder/with/file17:53
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coderuspatch -p1 -d /usr/share/jolla-settings -i /folder/with/file.patch17:54
Nokiuscoderus: is there any manager needed or just copy to the device?17:55
coderusJust copy to device17:56
coderusuploaded to github17:56
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coderusnew instuction: :D17:56
coderus1. devel-su17:56
coderus2. curl -O
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coderus3. pkcon install patch17:56
coderus4. patch -p1 -d / -i $PWD/unified_diff.patch17:57
coderusthats all17:57
coderusnow open settings and check for bug :)17:57
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Nokiuscoderus: lets see17:58
coderusyou can undo patch later using -R option in same command17:59
Nokiusgot one :-)17:59
coderusso i can tell it's safe for you to test my patch now :)17:59
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Nokiusbug is i can't uncheck Numpad :-/18:00
Nokiusno vid18:00
Nokiuscoderus: ^18:00
Nokiuspressed it 2 or 3 times with correct behaver optionm on option off option on than it stays on18:01
Nokiusnow it ask for the code (PIN atm) but option still on18:02
Nokiuscoderus: ^18:02
coderusNokius: and you have alphanumeric code?18:02
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Nokiushave numcode18:03
coderuswell, thats old sailfish bug, i didn't fixed it18:03
Nokiusand its repordactibile18:03
coderuscan fix it too if you want so :D18:03
coderusmy fix is to restrict enabling numpad when alphanumeric code is set, you know ;)18:04
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NokiusI got it (hope so) if you press fast the option it will be not turing off stays on18:05
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coderuswith alphanumeric code set?18:06
Nokiusand the keypad is enable when you delte the pin option and u set a new so looks like a graphic "glitsh" ?18:06
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r0kk3rzare there any finns around here that uses SirenSong?18:07
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Nokiusif alphanumeric code is enbaled the effect is not happining18:07
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coderusNokius: i dont understand what bug you searching :D18:08
coderusi need you to reproduce bug when was cancelled :D18:08
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Nokiusgot the bug now18:09
Nokiusthe post before are new bug ^^18:10
coderus23:07 < Nokius> if alphanumeric code is enbaled the effect is not happining18:11
Nokiusyes the new bug not the
coderus23:09 < Nokius> got the bug now18:12
coderuswhat this means then? :D18:12
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Nokiusthat I got the effect from last night18:13
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coderusyou can enable numpad option when alphanumeric option enabled with my patch?18:14
Nokiusgive me a minit will get a frute device as camera :)18:15
Nokiusand will try to reproduce a 3. time :)18:15
coderusrevert patch18:15
coderusi'll upload better version now18:15
coderusfixing your favorite multiple press bug :D18:16
ZnurreLaptophi, a question about the Silica ComboBox component: is it possible to share the same ContextMenu instance between two or more ComboBox instances? I want the exact same item source, but still being able to select different values in each instance18:16
ZnurreLaptopcurrently the ComboBoxes seems to become synchronized when I use the same ContextMenu instance18:16
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coderusNokius: reverted?18:19
coderusZnurreLaptop: yes it's using currentIndex as source of value18:20
Nokiuscoderus: yes18:20
Nokiuslike vid? or me telling18:20
coderusNokius: rm unified_diff.patch18:20
coderusand then curl && patch as before18:20
coderuslink and commands are same18:20
ZnurreLaptopcoderus: how would you go about solving the problem? simply duplicating the item source, even though they contain exactly the same items? or is there some way to work around it?18:20
coderusZnurreLaptop: you can try to use same repeater inside different ContextMenu18:20
coderusnot sure if it helps you18:21
ZnurreLaptopcoderus: that's a good idea actually, I could try that :)18:21
Nc_Uhm, if Project A (QtQuick app) is dependent on Project B (static library), how do I keep Project A from trying to make an RPM file for Project B?   in this case, Project B being a statically linked lib, I shouldn't need an RPM for it18:23
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coderusNc_: what?18:24
coderusone spec = one rpm, isn't it?18:24
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coderusor you have non-standart spec, not from sdk?18:24
Yanielis it possible to nest rpms?18:24
Nc_coderus, deploying Project A results in it saying it cannot find spec in Project B's folders18:24
coderusshow it then18:24
Yaniel(out of curiosity)18:24
Nc_ Project B doesn't have a spec, because it is not supposed to result in an RPM18:25
coderusYaniel: it's possible sure18:25
coderusjsut not using sdk spectacles templates :)18:25
coderusNc_: something wrong with A spec18:25
coderusNokius: success?18:25
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Nokiuscoderus: ^18:26
coderusNokius: you didn't reverted first patch then :D18:26
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coderuspkcon install jolla-settings18:26
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Nc_the A spec is 100% default and looking through it, not seeing anything curious :(18:26
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coderusNc_: well, you need to show it, or search google to help you18:27
coderusNokius: and patch again after installing original jolla-settings :)18:27
Nc_Show the A spec?18:27
coderusNc_: show A spec18:27
Nokiuscoderus: after pkcon still hints error :)18:29
Nc_What scares me is that I've used this setup several times, and suddenly it stopped working :(18:29
coderusNc_: show your build error18:30
coderusNokius: hm, let me check it18:30
Nc_coderus, "Fatal: No spec file found in '/home/mersdk/share//projects/libQTIoT/src/rpm/' and couldn't make one from a yaml #1"18:30
Nokiuscoderus: remove than install? or is it not so safe?18:30
coderusNokius: do clean?18:30
coderusNokius: you shouldn't remove system packages18:31
Nokiuscoderus:  ^^18:31
Nokiuscoderus: clean what ?18:31
Nokiuscoderus: what u mean with clean?18:32
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coderusNokius: sorry, pkcon install jolla-settings-system18:32
coderusNokius: sorry, do clean is for Nc_ :D18:33
coderustoo many users with N in chat :D18:33
Nokiusno probs18:33
Nokiusdone lets see18:33
Nokiuscoderus: ^18:33
coderusNokius: waiting for your results :)18:34
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Nc_Cleaning all, rebuilding (though, did this earlier) :)18:34
coderusNc_: clean sometimes not cleaning shadow build folder, do it manually if needed18:35
Nokiuslooks good so fare18:36
Nokiuscoderus: ^18:37
coderusNokius: cool :)18:37
coderusboth bugs gone?18:37
Nc_noticed earlier, that if I had CCP file from Project B open, Project A's Run process would also complain - might be something similar18:37
Nc_...and now it is throwing up more errors :(18:38
kimmolihaving two projects open in sdk - fail in build18:39
kimmoliat least never works for me18:39
Nokiuscoderus: u got both :)18:39
Nc_it used to work just fine the last several days :(18:39
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Nc_but kimmoli wins the beer - dropping Project B from the SDK's session worked....18:40
* kimmoli writes that down.. 18:41
Nc_Earlier running with 4 projects open ... wonder if issue is specifically when running with 218:42
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Nokiuscoderus: how about adding if alphanumeric option was enabled and the code is removed that the new code is a numpad?18:43
coderusHaving files with same names in multiple projects opened adding many fun bugs :D18:43
coderusNokius: why?18:43
Nokiuscoderus: comfort feature ? was just guess18:45
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Nokiuscoderus: no change to get numpad active wen alphanumeric option is on18:51
Nokiusfor me18:51
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Nokiuscoderus: if I lock it is not askin for the code only when I enable autolock no delay :-?18:53
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coderusNokius: i dont understand what you mean :D18:56
coderusexplain please18:56
Nokiusokay reinstalled the setting looks like it normal behaver :-? strance18:56
Nokiuscoderus: ^18:56
Nokiuscoderus: I wondering why the phone is not locked wen I press power button or use the down swipe18:58
Nokiusbut it is normal :-S only if autolock no delay is enable it locks when pressing the powerkey / swipe down18:59
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Nokiuscoderus: u get my point?19:00
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coderusNokius: you need doublepress to devicelock19:02
coderusof wait timeout, yes19:02
coderusits designed to be so19:03
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Nokiuscoderus: i got it again but I dont know how19:04
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Nokiuscoderus: alphanumeric option on and keypad optin was able to select but i cant reproduce it19:08
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coderusNokius: maybe you reverted patch? :)19:09
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coderusinstalled original jolla-system-settings probably :)19:10
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Nokiuscoderus: have
coderusNokius:  try to reproduce then :)19:11
Nokiusguess what I m doing :P19:11
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coderustea drink?19:12
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NokiusI remabe that I went to notification view delte notifiation Twitter Tweetian and a Download tipt a dummy tweet open tweet back to settungs into display enabeld dynamic and boom19:15
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Nokiuswhy I had stop recording :(19:16
coderusNokius: got it, thanks :)19:16
Nokiusawesome !19:17
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Nokiusi can't19:20
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Nokiusgot a glitch19:24
coderusjsut set code to numeric and then set to alphanumeric, go back, open devicelock again.19:24
Nokiuscoderus: has noting to do with your patch its a devielock keyboard one19:26
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Nokiuscoderus: looks like the maliit keyboard has the swipe down gesture when screen is locked19:29
coderusNokius: i can't disable keyboard when locked19:30
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Nokiuswill show u the glitch19:31
Nokiusgive me a sec19:31
Nokiuscoderus: but it s for the sailors19:31
Nokiusvid is not so good due to bad ambiance19:34
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appddoes anyone know if it's possible to develop sailfish silica apps entirely with C++, and not QML?19:40
Nokiuscoderus: :)19:40
Yanielappd: yes19:40
Yanielfor example if you use SDL219:40
appdwill it have the silica look and feel?19:41
Yanielyeah silica apps, no19:42
Nokiuscoderus: will add it to tjc19:42
Yanielsince silica is by definition qml19:42
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Nokiuscoderus: but a nice way to lock out your self (when device is in the pocket)19:44
appdso it looks that QML can't be avoided when making an app with built-in UI19:45
Yanielso far, yes19:45
YanielI don't think that is going to change anytime soon19:45
Yanielbut that shouldn't be much of a problem19:45
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Yanieland for games you'll be mostly using GLES or SDL2 and custom GUI stuff anyway19:46
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Nokiuscoderus: ping19:47
appdyes. i'll probably work with SDL2 until there's an alternative to QML19:48
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coderusNokius: yeah you right. i can't understand anything from your video :)19:54
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coderusNokius: when proximity is covered touch events are not produced19:55
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Nokiuscoderus: yeah the annoying time check feature :P19:58
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Nokiuscoderus: did you get the last reproduction fixed?20:14
expr-what's the current status for the update? my phone is offering it for download, although I heard it got pulled20:15
Nokiusexpr-: is it or
expr- (I haven't signed into any "early" programs)20:16
Hartzi.27 is the latest20:16
Teguexpr-: are you one of "the first ones"?20:17
Teguthat's why :)20:18
expr-assuming that means the ones who got "LE TOH" and all20:18
Nokiusis your gf Jolla on u9 or u8?20:19
r0kk3rzfirst ones got letoh?20:19
r0kk3rzi thought they only got the orange firstones toh20:19
expr-IIRC limited edition the other half that reads "the first one"20:19
r0kk3rzle = limited edition, not le = light emitting20:19
r0kk3rzi see now20:19
TeguI thought LE as in french(? like "the" or something)20:20
Yanielle TOH20:20
expr-that's what came to my mind when I first read it (while back when you ordered it); it sounded funny :x20:21
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Nokiuscoderus: ?20:23
pketolaiexpr-: which version are you currently on?20:23
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pketolaithen reboot and recheck for updates should show
expr-the phone just informed me of
pketolaiok, then it's fine20:25
Nokiusexpr-: still on u8?20:25
Nokiusexpr-: or did you just select update??20:26
expr-u8? If that means tahkalampi, then yes20:26
expr-I haven't updated manually in a while20:26
expr-But I tend to update when the phone says so20:26
Nokiusexpr-: can u do me a favor?20:26
TemeVpeople really should start speaking with version numbers or names20:27
TemeVupdatenumbers are confusing20:27
YanielI don't think so20:27
expr-they're confusing the first time :x20:27
TemeVwhy do we need three names for an os version :)20:27
Nokiusexpr-: do u use a device lock?20:28
Yanielyes it is redundant20:28
Yanielbut uN is way shorter than version number or name :D20:28
expr-Nokius: do you mean a lock code?20:28
Nokiusexpr-: yes20:28
expr-(although I have to wait for a while for it to activate)20:28
TemeVwell, you could refer it with first letter of the name. Its short and still unique :)20:29
TemeVAnd also gives the sequence20:29
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Nokiusexpr-: if you wanted immediately after powerkey press or swipe down set no delay in devicelock option in settings20:30
expr-yes, I know – I don't20:30
expr-although I really wished the swipe down would lock it, so I could have it both ways20:31
Tegu:O just noticed that the version names are alphabetically sorted20:31
Tegunow that you mentioned about a sequence20:31
Nokiusexper: can you enable it just for a test thanks20:31
coderusNokius: no20:31
coderusi can't get it fixed20:31
TeguQ is skipped (because, well, there probably aren't finnish lakes that start with Q :P)20:31
Nokiusexpr-: can you close the camera app if its open and lock the device after this thanks20:32
expr-I could name one (ok, it's more of a pond :x)20:32
expr-Nokius: ok, wait a bit20:32
Nokiusexpr-: no prob20:32
tigeliTegu: there is Kuujärvi which we could make as Qjärvi :D20:32
expr-Nokius: and?20:32
pketolaidouble pressing the power key turns on the lock directly ;)20:32
expr-pketolai: thanks20:33
Nokiuscoderus: just wondering if i found some new behaver in /
Tegutigeli: hehe. hm, let's check järviwiki to see if there are any W lakes20:33
Nokiuspketolai: but since
Nokiusexpr-: ready?20:34
pketolaiNokius: true20:34
Nokiusexpr-: so camera app is cloesed and device want now the code?20:34
Nokiusexpr-: okay20:35
Nokiusexpr-: please pull down and select camera (hope u did not removed it) and than don't tip in the code just swipe down again20:36
Teguhum, no W lakes, it seems :( next letter is Y20:36
Nokiusexpr-: now you see again the lock screen right?20:37
expr-I can't access the camera now20:37
Nokiusnow unlock20:37
Nokiusand is the camera app open?20:37
Nokiusis the camera cover in the mutitasking view?20:37
expr-nope; what I mean I can't access it – it's grayed out (as are most of the functions in the pulley menu when the phone is locked)20:38
Nokiusexpr-: okay Thanks20:38
Nokiuscoderus: ^ see not sure if its a feature :P20:38
Nokiusin / or a bug20:39
Nokiusexpr-:  Thanks for your help enjoy :P20:39
Nokiuscoderus: your u geting my point20:40
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Nokiuscoderus: ?20:48
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coderusNokius: sure :)20:50
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Nokiuscoderus: a feature? nope if u select it accidently when device is locked camera is active20:52
Nokiusthis is not a feature!20:53
Nokiusbtw it happen with settings and other apps use well20:53
fluxsecond day in a row my phone ends the night at 0% battery with u10.. maybe it's a coincidence ;)20:53
fluxoops, I intended to complain on #jm, oh well 8-)20:54
expr-yes, the phone seems to open any app in question without correct code20:58
expr-I'm personally not too worried, assuming the camera enters a sleep mode when in background (at least N9 did)20:59
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Nokiusexpr-: before u10 ( ?20:59
expr-Nokius: nope; after update20:59
Nokiusexpr-: oaky21:00
expr-(I'm also not too worried about accidentally selecting any pulley features – if I were, I would have to reconsider my "device reset limit" for incorrect codes)21:00
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expr-now that I though about it; is there yet a way to back-up and restore settings on the phone?21:01
Nokiuswill put it on tjc21:03
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coderusJonni: ping21:06
coderusany chance devicelock bug caused by your encpartition anti-bruteforce slowdown fix?21:06
coderusseemd devicelock settings are under encpartition control21:06
coderusand when we change options freauently it doesn't respond21:07
coderusand then - BOOM!21:07
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coderussailors ^21:08
coderusi have added a simple button in devicelock.qml:
coderusand output is funny:
coderusJonni: how much slowdown you added?21:10
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Nokiusis Jolla adding a label now to Bug reports on tjc if they added it to the bug tracker?21:16
Jonnicoderus: its a seperate thing, I have already fix available internally, but it takes some time to go through testing etc, so hotfix just disables the feature untill real fix has been tested.21:17
expr-feature-request: please sign the sdk releases21:17
coderusJonni: i understand, but what the reason of such behaviour?21:17
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Jonnicoderus: its a race issue on QSettings if multiple processes are writing to same key simulteneously.21:18
coderusi see now: after some changes values can't be changed again during some seconds21:18
expr-I actually checked it yesterday, it seems that Windows releases aren't signed either (which I guess is fair); but I resent downloading unsigned binaries over unsecure connection, even though I don't believe my ISP is messing with my connection21:18
coderusJonni: multiple processes? QSettings? isn't lockSettings are under encpartition plugin?21:18
Jonnicoderus: yes and encpartition uses QSettings internally.21:19
Nokiusexpr-: U had which version before u updated?21:19
coderusah, okay then21:19
expr-I don't it's much to ask for an official PGP key and signed binaries21:19
coderusJonni: understood21:19
coderusi had a lot of problems with qsettings21:19
coderusand i dropped using it in my projects :D21:19
Nokiusexpr-: SFOS Version21:19
Nokiusexpr-:  I see
coderuswe need qt 5.4 and QSaveFile :)21:20
coderusor whatever it name used to fix qsettings problem in qt :)21:20
expr-isn't it in 5.3 already?21:21
coderusyes probably i mistyped 5.4 and QSaveFile both21:21
coderusbut fix isn't in qt5.221:21
Nokiusexpr-: looks like the its since SFOS Version
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Nokiuscoderus: if you need someone for a test ping me21:41
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