Monday, 2015-01-05

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saidinesh5was looking at the android keyboard for that emoji stuff earlier00:00
saidinesh5but i m not touching that stuff anytime soon00:00
sandsmarkYeah, qt doesn't have very good support for it00:00
sandsmarkLike, colored glyphs00:00
saidinesh5didnt know they were colored either :P00:01
sandsmarkNeeds a patch that's not in gerrit00:01
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sandsmarkBut yeah, let's put that off a bit :p00:01
sandsmarkI think it should fit in with how we do stuff anyways00:01
saidinesh5i think so00:02
sandsmarkYour keyboard class is generic enough to accommodate pretty much anything00:02
saidinesh5also i think we need a new View for that though00:03
saidinesh5like they use images right?00:03
saidinesh5View as in QML component00:03
sandsmarkThey shouldn't00:03
sandsmarkIt's supposed to just be text00:03
sandsmarkBut text glyphs with color00:03
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saidinesh5so its different fonts?00:03
sandsmarkFor example00:03
saidinesh5fortunately none of the peopel i know use that stuff lol00:04
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sandsmarkMe neither :p00:05
sandsmarkBut i was working on a telegram client for a while, where I looked at it00:06
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saidinesh5so you're moving to tox now? :P00:07
sandsmarkNo, sticking to irc :p00:07
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sandsmarkJust need a proper keyboard :p00:09
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sandsmarkHmm, I forgot to check the memory usage of the burger king00:15
sandsmarkNeed to do that when i get home00:16
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saidinesh5Ahh you still arent home? O_O00:23
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sandsmarkNo, on a bus :p00:24
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sandsmarkDamn, laggy keyboards are annoying00:24
sandsmarkI'll get ours under 100ms even if it means staying home for a week with perf and caffeine, forgoing any social life00:25
saidinesh5lol sandsmark i thiink it is dooable00:27
sandsmarkMe too00:27
saidinesh5especially when you optimize editdistance with keyboard positions00:27
sandsmarkAnd others do it :p00:27
saidinesh5well that too00:28
saidinesh5hows your hunspell matcher doing?00:28
saidinesh5also what algo does hunspell implement? i thought it did BKtrees00:28
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sandsmarkNo idea, but if hunspell is what this uses I don't like it :p00:29
saidinesh5nah at some point of time we would have  implemneted something like BK trees ourselves00:29
saidinesh5even if we didnt know its BK trees00:29
saidinesh5i was thinking of something very ugly that did that tbh00:30
saidinesh5something using hashes lol00:30
saidinesh5might be nice to actually think that further though00:34
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sandsmarkI thought in similar lines, but didn't manage to see a way that it could work00:35
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: 12mb total, it seems00:53
sandsmarkfor the tree00:53
saidinesh5that sounds about right00:53
sandsmarkwait, 4.8MB00:53
saidinesh5wait what word list is this?00:53
sandsmarkah, the cracklib one with 52875 words00:54
saidinesh5sounds about right then :P00:54
saidinesh5for us i m expecting roughly around 12-13Mb00:54
saidinesh5and interestingly a similar amount for swipeHints ...... hmm......00:55
saidinesh5will prolly look at alignments and stuff later00:55
sandsmarkfor swipehints00:55
saidinesh5yeah told you :P00:55
saidinesh5the thing is we cant reuse the same trees for both swipeHints and normal Words00:56
sandsmarkthey are completely different things :D00:56
sandsmarkoh god, debug build + running under valgrind + swipehints == takes forever00:57
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saidinesh5lol ... btw. sandsmark, how about using mmap for your BK tree?00:57
sandsmarkthat will be a challenge :P00:57
saidinesh5you ve already implemented the data structure...00:57
saidinesh5would it be?00:57
saidinesh5i doubt it...00:58
sandsmarkyeah, but we would start to think about alignment and memory layout00:58
sandsmarkor, hmm00:58
saidinesh5umm..... why?00:58
sandsmarkI'll have to take a look at qmap and qstring00:58
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sandsmarkwhere they actually put their data00:58
saidinesh5hmm.... yeah00:58
sandsmarkif they allocate stuff on the heap, either they or the mmap goes :P00:59
sandsmarkbut I don't think ~20-30mb is bad for a keyboard00:59
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saidinesh5sure but qml takes up another 20-30MB :P01:03
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saidinesh5aaargh why is this so hard....01:12
saidinesh5its supposed to be simple01:13
saidinesh5the keyboard class01:13
sandsmarkhmm, let me try one simple trick on the tree01:15
saidinesh5which one?01:20
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sandsmarkthe burger king01:24
sandsmarkI find this kind of cute: QDEBUG : BKTreeBench::searching(love) 322180 nodes searched, gave QMap((2, "ui"))01:24
sandsmarkhaha, that backfired01:25
sandsmarkQString::squeeze() didn't help01:25
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saidinesh5sandsmark: hmm?02:02
saidinesh5what happened?02:02
sandsmarkqstring's detached I think02:02
sandsmarksuddenly it used 80mb02:02
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saidinesh5so now we are back at where we were 2 commits ago.....02:29
saidinesh5but hey its working at least!02:29
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saidinesh5sandsmark: what are you working on?03:17
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locusfoh yeah was 1501 sdk launch this week?06:50
m4g0git should06:52
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dpurginiirc they talked about releasing it at 10th of January08:15
mekluwasn't it scheduled for today?08:19
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dpurginyeah, you're right, just revisited the mail from Developer Care08:26
dpurginAs mentioned in the release notes for Update 10[1], we will release the corresponding SDK on 5. Jan 2015 and Harbour testing will start using the new rpmvalidator allowing more libraries[2] 7. Jan 2015.08:26
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tbrwith what?08:58
zuttodid the gnomes steal your underpants too?08:58
SaberAltriaAfter updated to journalctl -faxn -o short-monotonic /usr/bin/maliit-server doesn't work...08:59
SaberAltriaIn the past, this command can show error log of the input method, but now it shows nothing08:59
SaberAltriaHow come?08:59
tbrmaybe maliit is started with less logging now?09:02
tbrwild guess: modify /usr/lib/systemd/user/maliit-server.service09:02
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SaberAltriatbr, I am making a third-party input method09:06
SaberAltriaIn old system update, I just use console.warn in qml keyboard file, it could show me the log...09:06
SaberAltriabtw, how to modify it?09:07
* tbr has no idea about maliit, don't they have an IRC channel?09:07
SaberAltriaI have more hints now09:07
Stskeepsupstream community is a bit dead :/09:07
StskeepsSaberAltria: mail sailfishos devel mailing list09:07
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SaberAltriawhen I use journalctl -n 200 showing the last 200 log09:08
SaberAltriait shows my log09:08
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ElleoSaberAltria: you might want to try restarting maliit-server with the MALIIT_DEBUG=true environment variable set09:08
SaberAltriabut in journalctl -faxn -o short-monotonic /usr/bin/maliit-server it doesnt09:08
SaberAltria@Elleo,  I think the logs is recorded correctly now, but the above command shows nothing (cannot filter the log I need)09:09
ElleoSaberAltria: I don't really know anything about journalctl I'm afraid, I haven't played with systemd stuff much yet myself; but whem I'm debugging maliit stuff on ubuntu I typically just restart the server with MALIIT_DEBUG set and it'll output to stdout09:11
SaberAltriaYup... could you tell me how to set the environment variable plz? I am a noob...09:12
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ElleoSaberAltria: stop the current running maliit-server process, then just run "MALIIT_DEBUG=true maliit-server"09:13
ElleoI'm guessing 'systemctl stop maliit-server' should do the job of stopping it with systemd09:14
tbrmight be maliit.server09:14
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SaberAltriaOh Thz Let me try first09:16
SaberAltriaI typed "MALIIT DEBUG=true maliit-server" but the terminal shows "MALIIT: nd"09:19
SaberAltria*"MALIIT command not found"09:19
jmlichSaberAltria, I guess you should write MALIIT_DEBUG=true with underscore symbol instead of space09:20
Elleoyep, underscore is important09:21
SaberAltriaThz, I am a noob... =m=09:21
Elleono worries :)09:21
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SaberAltriaMy keyboard cannot popup now...09:27
SaberAltriaSrveral times of restart didnt help09:28
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SaberAltriaOh it works now thz god09:29
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sandsmarkSaberAltria: maliit seems to suppress qdebug and console.log unless run in debugvmode09:38
sandsmarkDebug mode09:38
sandsmarkI usually run it manually, though, instead of using the journal09:39
SaberAltriaYes, console.log doesn't work, but console.warn works09:41
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: well, we don't need pregenerated swipehints anymore ?09:41
SaberAltriaI don't know what is the actual difference between them09:41
sandsmarkSaberAltria: .log is for debug output09:42
saidinesh5sandsmark: thats what i want to measure first before storing them09:43
sandsmarkAh, ok09:43
sandsmarkBecause storing of dictionaries and swipehints :)09:43
saidinesh5sandsmark: also the keyboard class is almost done09:45
sandsmarkSaberAltria: what kind of keyboard are you making?09:45
sandsmarksaidinesh5: <309:45
saidinesh5im wondering whether to move swipeHints to keyboard class or09:45
saidinesh5let it stay in abstractmatcher09:45
saidinesh5i think it is better left in abstract matcher09:45
saidinesh5using the keysBeetween09:45
saidinesh5method from the keyboard clas09:45
saidinesh5sandsmark: what are you working on?09:46
sandsmarkNow; dayjob09:46
saidinesh5Ahh right09:47
sandsmarkTonight probably hunspell09:47
sandsmarkUnless you have a better suggestion09:47
saidinesh5android dictionary?09:47
saidinesh5the bits left for the keyboard class are reimplement the functionality you ve implemented with the shift key09:49
saidinesh5also make the UI talk to the keyboard class09:49
saidinesh5and wordEngine listen to signals from it09:50
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saidinesh5but i actually even want to test out the fun stuff you ve been working on..09:51
saidinesh5Elleo: btw. any updates on the mir backend patches i sent?09:52
saidinesh5Elleo: also maliit upstream has some of the patches ubuntu touch has been using...09:52
saidinesh5like the Qt 5.3 one and the gcc one09:53
saidinesh5and 2 more i  think......09:53
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Elleosaidinesh5: nothing much yet, the whole company shutdown for holidays the past couple of weeks, we're just getting back today09:53
saidinesh5Ahh happy.....monday :p09:53
Elleosaidinesh5: oh cool, we should resync our packages09:53
saidinesh5also i dont mind doing a bit more work on the mir patches.... if it means the same plugin runs both on sailfish and ubuntu touch09:54
saidinesh5also i can shamelessly use packages from you then instead of recompiling everything :p09:55
saidinesh5so please do merge them..09:55
Elleosaidinesh5: yep, I'll try and have a chat with some mir folks this week to make sure things are in their final state from their end and if so we should be good :)09:56
saidinesh5also Elleo are there any plans to support 3rd party input method installations in ubuntu touch yet?09:57
saidinesh5like it needs installing to /usr...09:58
saidinesh5or telling the maliit server things..09:58
Elleosaidinesh5: that's something we're going to be trying to work out to some extent this cycle09:58
saidinesh5Ah this cycle = 15.04?09:58
Elleoyeah, roughly09:59
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ElleoI'm not sure we'll get to a state where keyboards can be distributed as click packages though09:59
saidinesh5other than security reasons...10:00
Elleofirst off we'll just be focusing on making it possible to have confined keyboards that can be shipped as part of the image10:00
sandsmarksaidinesh5: we don't need /usr, as long as we can touch ~/.config/ :p10:00
saidinesh5is there any other reason?10:00
saidinesh5yeah sandsmark ^10:00
Elleosaidinesh5: mostly it's security stuff that we need to work out10:00
saidinesh5iOS does this nicely afaik10:01
saidinesh5or i ve heard10:01
saidinesh5like for passwords etc..10:01
saidinesh5it opens the native keyboad10:01
saidinesh5and anything else the 3rd party ones10:01
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Elleosaidinesh5: yeah, we might do something similar10:02
Elleosaidinesh5: it's all a bit sketchy at the moment though10:02
saidinesh5also forgot to ask10:02
sandsmarkUhm, sounds like it would be impossible with maliit10:02
saidinesh5Elleo:  what was actually blocking the UI of the ubuntu touch keyboard that you had to move things to a different thread?10:03
sandsmarkYou load executable code into the maliit process10:03
saidinesh5sandsmark: they've forked maliit framework too :P10:03
sandsmarksaidinesh5: won't help10:03
saidinesh5sandsmark: why not?10:03
saidinesh5i thought maliit already supports multilpe active plugins10:03
Elleosandsmark: we're going to confine the maliit process with our usual appaprmor confinement system10:03
sandsmarkEither you trust the loaded keyboards or you don't10:03
Elleosandsmark: so it will be very restricted in what it can do10:04
sandsmarkElleo: apparmor is useless10:04
saidinesh5Ahh you meant the security10:04
sandsmarksaidinesh5: I'd just walk the qobject tree and hook whatever I wanted10:04
saidinesh5or wait10:05
Elleosaidinesh5: the main stuff we shifted into different threads was the spell checking and prediction stuff10:05
saidinesh5Elleo: so hunspell/presage are too slow?10:05
sandsmarkWell, the presage code was ... Less than impressive :p10:05
Elleosaidinesh5: yeah; getting candidates out of hunspell for large words takes quite a bit of time10:06
saidinesh5and presage?10:06
Elleosaidinesh5: presage was better, timewise, but still not brilliant10:06
Elleosaidinesh5: since you don't really want any delay between pressing a key and it being registered10:06
Elleootherwise the whole thing just feels clunky10:06
saidinesh5Ahh right10:06
Elleosaidinesh5: hang on, I have a comparison video somewhere10:06
saidinesh5Elleo: thatsw hy i was asking you :p10:07
saidinesh5saw that video10:07
sandsmarkBut moving it to a background thread only means that users will sometimes click on suggestions that appear after they saw something ...10:07
saidinesh5and we were implementing a hunspell matcher10:07
sandsmarkI think we'll drop it :p10:07
saidinesh5or work on it later :P10:07
saidinesh5but yeah10:07
saidinesh5mostly drop it10:07
Elleowell I'm going to be having a look at chromium's hunspell branch soon10:07
saidinesh5i do want to test it though10:08
sandsmarkWell, I'd rather optimize our own code :p10:08
Elleothat seems to do some nicer stuff10:08
saidinesh5Elleo: what algorithm does hunspell use?10:08
ElleoI'm mostly looking at that from a memory usage point of view though10:08
saidinesh5also i thought the chromium people only added more dictionaries to it...10:08
Elleosaidinesh5: not sure, haven't looked at the internals much10:08
saidinesh5didnt know they maintained a whole clone10:08
Elleosaidinesh5: nah, they have a fork that implements a different binary file format10:08
saidinesh5Ah inteeresting10:09
Elleosaidinesh5: which gets rid of the classic hunspell problem of it loading the whole dictionary into memory10:09
Elleoand so using up ~10MB of RAM all the time10:09
saidinesh5by mmaping things?10:09
saidinesh5sandsmark: ^10:09
saidinesh5i soo want to implement the mmap bit10:10
saidinesh5lets see10:10
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: for what part?10:14
sandsmarkFor the tightly packed tries it makes sense10:15
saidinesh510MB hunspell10:15
saidinesh5or mmap too10:15
sandsmarkFuck, I forgot how much I hate knee deep snow10:17
sandsmarkBut yeah, even when we get the 7gb ngrams down to 700mb, that's 70% of the memory on the jolla10:18
sandsmarkSo we need mmap :p10:18
saidinesh5we arent looking at 7GB ngrams :P10:19
sandsmarkWasn't that the English google standard?10:20
sandsmarksaidinesh5: does that work? :p10:21
saidinesh5it is supposed to...10:21
sandsmarkDon't the stl internals use pointers10:21
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saidinesh5sandsmark: they do point to some memory location after all.....10:21
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: yeah, which should be invalid when loaded again :p10:23
sandsmarkBut doesn't matter for the tries10:23
saidinesh5not just for the tries10:23
saidinesh5i mean just any arrays......10:23
saidinesh5a vector is just an array........10:23
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coderusm4g0g: explain why you need flickable inside mousearea?10:24
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m4g0gI have popup, which show "running" label (string). For this Label I use flickable. For whole popup - MouseArea {}10:25
m4g0gcoderus: ^^10:25
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coderuswhy you using flickable for popup?10:35
coderusit's ridiculous10:35
m4g0gbecause label can have length longer than popup and I want to show it whole like in im popups without multilines10:36
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coderuswhy you need flickable?10:51
coderuschange label x with timer10:52
coderusdo marquee10:52
coderusY U SO COMPLEX, SIR?10:52
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m4g0gcoderus: hm11:02
m4g0gbut with flickable it's very easy11:03
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coderusцшер адшслфиду шеэы мукн сщьздуч11:04
coderuswith flickable it's very complex11:04
SK_workhi coderus11:05
coderusSK_work: hello! i thought about you yesterday11:05
SK_workcoderus: why ? :D11:05
coderusaobut patchmanager actually11:05
coderuswe need to put all good patches in separate repo, and make list of available patches inside patchmanager with ability to install/remove without using 3rd aptery stuff11:06
coderus3rd party*11:06
SK_workcoderus: what do you mean without 3rd party stuff11:06
coderuswithout warehouse11:07
SK_workbasically without installing RPMs for patches ?11:07
coderusmanage patches inside patchmanager11:07
SK_workbut there is a problem with this: security11:07
coderusi can get packagekit classes from BasilSemuonov11:07
SK_workor will you accept that only trusted people will allow uploading patches ?11:07
coderusSK_work: what problem?11:07
coderusyes, we will put patches in this repo manually11:08
SK_workyou mean patchmanager is basically a package manager11:08
SK_workcoderus: I'm thinking of something else11:08
coderusactually move packages from one to other11:08
SK_workdownload patches directly from the internet, from a github.io11:08
SK_workcoderus: your solution is interesting too though11:08
coderuswell i thought it too11:08
coderusbut updating is not always simple11:09
coderusas my patches have additional files, not only diff :)11:09
SK_workcoderus: yeah11:09
coderusi can get mod rights in openrepos and move cool patches to trusted repo owner11:09
SK_workcoderus: what about just OBS11:09
SK_workjust open a project and put everything here ?11:10
SK_workor you prefer openrepos ?11:10
SK_workboth are ok for me11:10
coderuswho will use obs just for publiching patches? :D11:10
coderusit's about regular patchmakers11:10
SK_worktrue that OR is easier11:10
SK_workstill thinking about no RPM stuff. Can't we just tar some stuff and put them on a website ?11:10
coderuswell yes11:11
coderusi used same things for TweakS in symbian11:11
SK_workha ?11:11
SK_workactually I would like to have some automated way of having patches online11:12
SK_work Access Denied (policy_denied) Your request was categorized by Blue Coat Web Filter as 'Peer-to-Peer (P2P)'.11:12
coderusall tweaks are available to download and install inside application11:12
coderusand just
SK_workI guess won't work :D11:12
coderuslol :D11:13
coderuswtf? :D11:13
SK_workcoderus: work, proxy etc.11:13
coderuschekc this then:
SK_worklooks good :)11:14
coderustweaks is just gui for editing symbian registry11:15
coderusno tweaks/mods actually :D11:15
SK_workjust like patchmanager indeed11:15
SK_workpatchmanager is a gui to call ausmt and do some cleanusp11:15
SK_workcoderus: do you need RPM specificities in your patches ?11:15
faenilaww...CentRep...good ol' times11:15
coderusfaenil: yeah :D11:16
coderusSK_work: i'm voting for rpm stuff, yes11:16
coderusbut if you want you can do both11:16
SK_worktrue that we can have both11:16
coderussimple patches and complex patches )11:16
SK_workwhat I don't like about RPM is the complexity11:16
SK_workrefresh cash11:16
SK_work(not cash :D)11:17
faenilyeah, it takes a lot :(11:17
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coderuspkcon set-repo patchmanager-trusted refresh true true or so :)11:17
coderusit takes 1-2s11:17
SK_workcoderus: what about in term of UI ?11:17
SK_workcoderus: can be interesting11:17
SK_workmind prototyping this a bit ? :)11:18
SK_workI'm clearly not against it :)11:18
coderuswhat you mean?11:18
kimmoli^ pkcon repo-set-data $1 refresh-now true11:19
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coderuskimmoli: yes, thanks :)11:19
SK_workwell, there is a need to register the repo via pkcon / packagekit classes11:19
SK_worktell me how to do this (or better code this :))11:20
SK_workplus refresh and list packages, and we are green I guess11:20
coderusSK_work: as i said it's better to get classes from BasilSemuonov11:20
SK_workcoderus: ok11:20
SK_work+ access rights to OR11:21
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SK_workcoderus: anyway, I'm happy that you agree that patch distribution is at best suboptimal11:23
coderusSK_work: fdfg11:29
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m4g0gguys, who have created call vibration patch?11:35
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m4g0gSK_work: ping. Why I can't find this path for u10?11:37
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coderusm4g0g: phone-vibrate patch from patches-base not working?11:38
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stephgSK_work: I have about 10 minutes, can I bother you with a bug/issue with Friends?11:41
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coderusstephg: unfortunately :D11:54
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King_DuckZhello, is there an app that can recognize songs and tell you the title?11:59
coderusKing_DuckZ: only android ones12:01
coderusShazam and SoundHound.12:01
SaberAltriaOne more question12:03
SaberAltriacan I change my repository author name after created my account in openrepos?12:03
coderusSaberAltria: no12:04
coderusit will break stuff12:04
coderusjust create a new one12:04
coderusyour repository url contains your name12:05
King_DuckZhm btw wasn't the store supposed to be updated with support for paying?12:06
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coderusKing_DuckZ: sometimes probably12:08
King_DuckZsoundhound looks nice12:08
coderusbut it seems to be delayed12:08
King_DuckZcoderus: I thought it was supposed to happen by last october?12:08
King_DuckZno official news about it?12:09
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krnlyngphaeron: hi, coderus and i are haveing troubles building mupen64plus using the mer platform sdk, sledges said you might be able to help me out. this is the repo: if i run "mb build -t SailfishOS-armv7hl  rpm/mupen64plus.spec" i am getting this error (while mupen64plus is linking some so file): "collect2: cannot find 'ld'" do you know what could be wrong?12:15
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coderussame with mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hm build12:21
coderuskrnlyng: i compiled every part manually with make12:22
coderusbut can't put together with mb12:22
coderusfailed at install stage too12:22
coderus/usr/lib/mupen64plus: No such file or directory12:22
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SaberAltriaHow can I copy text from the XChat IRC chat content list?...12:31
SaberAltriaCtrl+C or Right-Click dont work...12:32
coderusis it desktop xterm app?12:32
coderusthen copy text with mouse and press Ctrl+Shift+C magic! same as pasting text with Ctrl+Shift+V12:33
SaberAltriaThz! This question asked by me is quite stupid @.@12:34
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coderushaha, yeah12:34
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SK_workm4g0g: pong13:09
SK_workstephg: pong13:09
SK_workmaybe time has elapsed for stephg13:09
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stephgSK_work: literally about to walk out door13:10
stephgbut problem is I have one friend who has no poists, pictures, nothing13:10
stephgI've removedf it13:10
stephgdeleted .local stuff13:11
stephgdeleted the jolla FB account13:11
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stephgnothing works13:11
stephggot to run but debugging hints appreciated13:11
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SK_workstephg: check his rights on Facebook13:25
SK_workI think it is because he prevented apps to access personnal data from Facebook13:25
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SK_workalso, did he accepted all the bunch of permissions asked ?13:25
SK_workhi TMavica13:25
SK_workback to HK ?13:25
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krnlyngcoderus: weird because we have "mkdir -p %{buildroot}/usr/lib/mupen64plus" in there13:42
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TMavicayes, just back13:50
TMavicacoderus: still on driving? LOL13:51
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SK_workTMavica: hope not, IRC while driving is not good14:00
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meekygeekHi All, seems the ssl certificate at had expired.14:10
SK_worktigeli: ^14:11
meekygeekis there any timeframe when it shall be renewed14:11
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SaberAltriaError: Download (curl) error for '':14:13
SaberAltriaError code: Unrecognized error14:13
SaberAltriaError message: SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired14:13
SaberAltriaHow to fix this error in SDK compiling apps...14:14
meekygeekyes. looked at the cert. It was valid from 2013 till 1/5/201514:14
SK_workSaberAltria: see what meekygeek  just said :)14:14
meekygeekwhich was yesterday14:14
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Nicd-that date format is confusing :(14:14
tigeli        Validity14:15
tigeli            Not Before: Dec  8 00:00:00 2014 GMT14:15
tigeli            Not After : Feb 10 12:00:00 2016 GMT14:15
tigelivalid here14:15
SK_workI thought it was valid until the first of may14:15
SK_worktigeli: you now have two reports14:15
SK_workso ... :(14:15
tigeliSK_work: well I'm sure it's not expired on the server side14:16
SaberAltria@SK_work How can I browse the IRC hsitory? I think that if I was not online at that time, I would miss message of that period?14:16
SK_worktigeli: valid here if I go to releases.jolla.com14:16
SK_workbut maybe not elsewhere14:16
tigeliSaberAltria: meekygeek: is that happening only on sdk?14:17
Nicd-that rpm url works for me in wget14:17
meekygeekdoesnt work either14:17
SK_workmeekygeek: works here14:18
tigelimeekygeek: is it from inside the sdk?14:18
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tigeliSaberAltria: can you try outside the sdk?14:19
meekygeektigeli: I am trying to call zypper install patch in jolla phone, and got an error on cert14:19
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SaberAltriaMy situation is when I compiling the apps with foldermodel qml type14:19
meekygeekthen I tried opening in firefox could also see that cert has expired14:19
SaberAltriaI tried wget in ubuntu terminal and firefox too, same error14:20
Nicd-both urls work for me in wget14:20
Nicd-SaberAltria: which cloudfront url did you get?14:20
SK_workmeekygeek: where are you from14:20
SaberAltriaMy timezone us UTC+8 Hong Kong14:20
meekygeekI am from singapore14:20
tigeliNicd-: the certs are installed on load-balancer14:20
SaberAltriacloudfront url ? I dont know this term14:21
Nicd-I got -- can you try that SaberAltria?14:21
urjamanthen you're on the 6th day already?14:21
tigelimeekygeek: ok.. I might where the problem is14:21
tigelimeekygeek: a sec14:21
tigelimeekygeek: the location helps me a lot :)14:21
SaberAltria@Nicd your link works like a charm...14:21
SK_worktigeli: I guessed this too, as SaberAltria is from HK14:21
SaberAltriabut my link:
Nicd-SaberAltria: try using wget -O /dev/null -S and then see which "Location" header you get14:22
tigeliSK_work: the european load balancer has the new cert.. the asian one does not, for some reason14:22
SaberAltriaLet me tried once more, my time is 22:22 pm14:22
SK_worktigeli: hehe14:22
SK_workweired though14:22
tigelifixing the issue14:22
meekygeektigeli: cool, glad the fix was found14:23
SaberAltriaOh... it works in SDK and firefox now14:24
tigelimeekygeek: try now14:24
SaberAltriaThank you so much14:24
tigelimeekygeek: SaberAltria: thanks for reporting the issue :)14:24
meekygeekcool. guess its working now. Thanks a ton !!!14:24
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tigeliSK_work: and thank you too :)14:25
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sledges14:22 < coderus> krnlyng: i compiled every part manually with make15:11
sledgesdid you do that inside the target?15:11
sledges(via sb2)15:11
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locusfah sdk released15:35
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Nc_is it "safe enough" to just run the Update option in the SDK Maintenance tool, or should we uninstall and download a complete package?16:03
JareNc_: updating has been tested from both 1407 and 1410, so it should be ok. If there are any issues, you can always try a fresh install too16:05
Nc_Jare, cheers :)  Trying the update step, from 1410, fingers crossed16:06
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anYcis there a way to trigger a remount of the sdcard after I manually repartitioned the card (except rebooting)?16:38
urjamanpull the card out and put it in again? ...16:40
urjaman(or you can just manually unmount it and maybe have fdisk or something trigger a re-scan of the partitioning etc, but...)16:41
anYchm, isn't it necessary to remove the battery in order to pull it out?16:42
urjamani put it in without removing the battery ...16:42
anYcok, thanks! Maybe that was just the case with the n90016:42
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kimmoliooo Update time \o/16:47
anYc"systemctl restart mount-sd@mmcblk1p1.service" did it16:47
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kimmoliNc_: ping17:38
Nc_kimmoli, pong17:38
kimmoliwas it libiot you were working on?17:38
Nc_libQTIoT, ya :)17:39
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Nc_(not sure it is wise of me to include QT in the name, but, hey - it's descriptive)17:39
kimmoliyes, just browsing there17:40
Nc_Isn't particularly fancy, or complete, or well-made :)17:40
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kimmolido you have something that uses your lib already? lightfish QT_Migration branch?17:44
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Nc_Lightish uses it for controlling lightbulbs17:45
Nc_is how I say your app - uploaded mine to OpenRepos (along with disclaimers...) and saw your YNC app right next to it :)17:46
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Nc_Also have desktop CLI and QML test-apps for the lib, but not uploaded these as they are too simple currently (not proper test-scenarios)17:47
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kimmolimaybe i need finally get a lifx bulb17:53
kimmolidamn expensive for a bulb though17:53
Nc_yup, them not cheap17:54
Nc_even when LIFX was giving me them for free, cost me 30 euros to get it17:54
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Nc_Anyways, kimmoli, whattaya think of my proposal - you up to helping out with e.g. testing? :)17:58
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kimmoliyes i can. maybe start with the ssdp (or did you have that already?)17:58
Nc_Well, I haven't gone into details with your sources yet, but no, no SSDP currently in use ...17:59
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Nc_is it a regular UPnP MediaRender? then I should consider doing the base UPnP first I guess18:01
kimmoliyes afk18:02
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Nc_Uki :)18:03
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kimmoligrr, i'm just getting the new QtCreator in not responding state... not so pleasant first minutes18:18
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Nc_is always interesting trying out stuff after updating18:19
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kimmoli4th restart, and now i got first sourcefile opened with it18:21
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SK_workkimmoli: :/18:21
kimmolinow it says no VM found...18:22
kimmoliand not responding18:22
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kimmoliCallee RC:18:27
kimmoliCO_E_SERVER_EXEC_FAILURE (0x80080005)18:27
kimmolisays Virtualbox...18:27
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kimmolilet see does clean install work any better18:35
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Nc_Darn it, Kimmoli, you've made me reach for my UPnP book, and 3 year old code (that seemingly doesn't quite run under Qt5)18:55
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Jarekimmoli: platform? vbox version? did you use the 1410 or 1407 before this one?19:08
kimmoliJare: win7-64, vbox 4.3.2, 1407 was before.19:09
kimmoliseems to work better now, made re-install (after update) and first things were "not respoding", now it managed to deploy rpm even19:11
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TemeVIs there anyone awake who would be familiar with accounts plugins?19:29
TemeVI'm trying to get telegram telapathy plugin to work, but I don't know how to get the login code working19:30
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NRKAHi, the sdk link on is down is thier another mirror some where?19:32
stephgSK_work: fwiw it's my g/f's account so I should be able to see everything but I will double check19:35
stephganyway bbl19:35
Jarekimmoli: hm, looks like some generic COM issue between vbox and windows. A clean install of the sdk (and vbox) would've been my suggestion too, hopefully it doesn't reproduce itself19:36
kimmoliwill see, did keep vbox at that version19:37
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kimmolibtw, the CoverAction stuff is still "unknown"19:38
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NRKAits is up again now19:46
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OlpeHey is there anything like a "silica numberpicker"? I mean is the only way to use number keypad for  number input from user. Anything like those number pickers in ios?21:48
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saidinesh5sandsmark: i think you will like the AbstractWordMatcher now :p22:23
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: ooooh, looks good :D22:29
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saidinesh5sandsmark: will probably look into a mmaped BKTree for now.. and then make 2-3 more commits to make the keyboard accept swipes and keypresses and engine/wordMatcher listen to keyboard instead22:29
saidinesh5finally it is a lot less headachish22:29
sandsmarkthis looks very good22:29
saidinesh5also keyboardmodel class seems a lot cleaner now22:29
saidinesh5i miiiiiiiiiiight add a Key class later on though.. that could reaaaaaaally clean things up22:30
saidinesh5in keyboardmodel22:30
sandsmarkyeah, maybe22:30
sandsmarkI don't like the special casing of the space key width :P22:30
saidinesh5right now Key is just typedef QMap<KeyModifiers, QStringList> Key;22:31
saidinesh5yeah i know22:31
saidinesh5but cant do anything about that can we?22:31
sandsmarkbut this works for now22:31
saidinesh5we caaaaaaaan specify the geometry for each key individually, but then we are better off creating the whole keyboard in QML22:31
saidinesh5but then swipeHint generation would be a bit of an ugly thing22:32
sandsmarkI'd say just hardcode the space key size..22:32
saidinesh5yup. like now :p22:32
sandsmarkwould it ever vary?22:32
sandsmarkwell, but not in c++ :p22:32
saidinesh5sure, if there are more keys in the last row maybe..22:32
saidinesh5it is constant now anyways22:33
sandsmarkI don't think I've ever seen an onscreen keyboard with variable size space key :D22:33
saidinesh5its just that it is the only special key now in the whole row22:33
saidinesh5oh no no.....22:33
saidinesh5for a given layout it is definitely constant22:33
saidinesh5but say22:33
saidinesh5if you are using a different layout with more special keys down there..22:33
sandsmarkoh well, no biggie22:34
saidinesh5i think 2-3 commits and we can then merge this with master22:35
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sandsmarkdo you want help with any of it?22:36
saidinesh5yeah thinking22:36
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saidinesh5what are you working on btw. ?22:37
saidinesh5also sandsmark how much code would it be to read from a .tgz file?22:37
saidinesh5the android dictionaries basically are compressed by default22:37
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saidinesh5also the keyboardmodel class needs some test cases definitely...22:38
sandsmarksaidinesh5: hmm, a lot22:44
sandsmarkwe can't depend on karchive :p22:45
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saidinesh5oh well...22:50
saidinesh5then we'll just unzip the dictionaries22:50
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saidinesh5sandsmark: one shouldn't subclass Qt's containers right? like QMap etc.. ?22:51
sandsmarkhmm, it's a huge no-no for stl, but I'm not sure the same is true for qt22:52
sandsmarksaidinesh5: I think it should be okay22:52
sandsmarkqstack, qqueue, qmultimap, qmultihash etc. are already subclasses22:53
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