| saidinesh5 | yup | 00:00 |
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| saidinesh5 | was looking at the android keyboard for that emoji stuff earlier | 00:00 |
| saidinesh5 | but i m not touching that stuff anytime soon | 00:00 |
| sandsmark | Yeah, qt doesn't have very good support for it | 00:00 |
| sandsmark | Like, colored glyphs | 00:00 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 00:01 |
| saidinesh5 | didnt know they were colored either :P | 00:01 |
| sandsmark | Needs a patch that's not in gerrit | 00:01 |
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| sandsmark | But yeah, let's put that off a bit :p | 00:01 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 00:01 |
| sandsmark | I think it should fit in with how we do stuff anyways | 00:01 |
| saidinesh5 | i think so | 00:02 |
| sandsmark | Your keyboard class is generic enough to accommodate pretty much anything | 00:02 |
| sandsmark | :D | 00:02 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 00:02 |
| saidinesh5 | also i think we need a new View for that though | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | Hmm | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | like they use images right? | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | View as in QML component | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | They shouldn't | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | oh | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | It's supposed to just be text | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | O_o | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | But text glyphs with color | 00:03 |
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| saidinesh5 | so its different fonts? | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | For example | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | Yeah | 00:04 |
| saidinesh5 | fortunately none of the peopel i know use that stuff lol | 00:04 |
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| sandsmark | Me neither :p | 00:05 |
| sandsmark | But i was working on a telegram client for a while, where I looked at it | 00:06 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ah | 00:07 |
| saidinesh5 | so you're moving to tox now? :P | 00:07 |
| sandsmark | No, sticking to irc :p | 00:07 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 00:09 |
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| sandsmark | Just need a proper keyboard :p | 00:09 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm.... | 00:13 |
| sandsmark | Hmm, I forgot to check the memory usage of the burger king | 00:15 |
| sandsmark | Need to do that when i get home | 00:16 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ahh you still arent home? O_O | 00:23 |
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| sandsmark | No, on a bus :p | 00:24 |
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| sandsmark | Damn, laggy keyboards are annoying | 00:24 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 00:25 |
| sandsmark | I'll get ours under 100ms even if it means staying home for a week with perf and caffeine, forgoing any social life | 00:25 |
| saidinesh5 | lol sandsmark i thiink it is dooable | 00:27 |
| sandsmark | Me too | 00:27 |
| saidinesh5 | especially when you optimize editdistance with keyboard positions | 00:27 |
| sandsmark | Yeah | 00:27 |
| sandsmark | And others do it :p | 00:27 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 00:27 |
| saidinesh5 | well that too | 00:28 |
| saidinesh5 | hows your hunspell matcher doing? | 00:28 |
| saidinesh5 | also what algo does hunspell implement? i thought it did BKtrees | 00:28 |
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| sandsmark | No idea, but if hunspell is what this uses I don't like it :p | 00:29 |
| saidinesh5 | nah at some point of time we would have implemneted something like BK trees ourselves | 00:29 |
| saidinesh5 | even if we didnt know its BK trees | 00:29 |
| saidinesh5 | i was thinking of something very ugly that did that tbh | 00:30 |
| saidinesh5 | something using hashes lol | 00:30 |
| saidinesh5 | using/like | 00:32 |
| saidinesh5 | might be nice to actually think that further though | 00:34 |
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| sandsmark | I thought in similar lines, but didn't manage to see a way that it could work | 00:35 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm..... | 00:36 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: 12mb total, it seems | 00:53 |
| sandsmark | for the tree | 00:53 |
| saidinesh5 | umm....... | 00:53 |
| saidinesh5 | that sounds about right | 00:53 |
| sandsmark | wait, 4.8MB | 00:53 |
| saidinesh5 | O_o | 00:53 |
| saidinesh5 | wait what word list is this? | 00:53 |
| sandsmark | ah, the cracklib one with 52875 words | 00:54 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 00:54 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 00:54 |
| saidinesh5 | sounds about right then :P | 00:54 |
| saidinesh5 | for us i m expecting roughly around 12-13Mb | 00:54 |
| saidinesh5 | and interestingly a similar amount for swipeHints ...... hmm...... | 00:55 |
| sandsmark | 14.8MB | 00:55 |
| saidinesh5 | will prolly look at alignments and stuff later | 00:55 |
| sandsmark | for swipehints | 00:55 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah told you :P | 00:55 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 00:55 |
| sandsmark | :D | 00:55 |
| saidinesh5 | the thing is we cant reuse the same trees for both swipeHints and normal Words | 00:56 |
| sandsmark | no | 00:56 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 00:56 |
| sandsmark | they are completely different things :D | 00:56 |
| saidinesh5 | indeed | 00:57 |
| sandsmark | oh god, debug build + running under valgrind + swipehints == takes forever | 00:57 |
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| saidinesh5 | lol ... btw. sandsmark, how about using mmap for your BK tree? | 00:57 |
| sandsmark | that will be a challenge :P | 00:57 |
| saidinesh5 | you ve already implemented the data structure... | 00:57 |
| saidinesh5 | would it be? | 00:57 |
| saidinesh5 | i doubt it... | 00:58 |
| sandsmark | yeah, but we would start to think about alignment and memory layout | 00:58 |
| sandsmark | or, hmm | 00:58 |
| saidinesh5 | umm..... why? | 00:58 |
| sandsmark | I'll have to take a look at qmap and qstring | 00:58 |
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| sandsmark | where they actually put their data | 00:58 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.... yeah | 00:58 |
| sandsmark | if they allocate stuff on the heap, either they or the mmap goes :P | 00:59 |
| sandsmark | but I don't think ~20-30mb is bad for a keyboard | 00:59 |
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| saidinesh5 | sure but qml takes up another 20-30MB :P | 01:03 |
| sandsmark | hah | 01:05 |
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| saidinesh5 | aaargh why is this so hard.... | 01:12 |
| saidinesh5 | its supposed to be simple | 01:13 |
| saidinesh5 | the keyboard class | 01:13 |
| saidinesh5 | brb | 01:13 |
| sandsmark | :V | 01:15 |
| sandsmark | hmm, let me try one simple trick on the tree | 01:15 |
| saidinesh5 | which one? | 01:20 |
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| sandsmark | the burger king | 01:24 |
| sandsmark | I find this kind of cute: QDEBUG : BKTreeBench::searching(love) 322180 nodes searched, gave QMap((2, "ui")) | 01:24 |
| sandsmark | haha, that backfired | 01:25 |
| sandsmark | QString::squeeze() didn't help | 01:25 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: hmm? | 02:02 |
| saidinesh5 | what happened? | 02:02 |
| sandsmark | qstring's detached I think | 02:02 |
| sandsmark | suddenly it used 80mb | 02:02 |
| saidinesh5 | O_o | 02:03 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ooooookay | 02:29 |
| saidinesh5 | so now we are back at where we were 2 commits ago..... | 02:29 |
| saidinesh5 | but hey its working at least! | 02:29 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: what are you working on? | 03:17 |
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| m4g0g | morning | 06:47 |
| locusf | oh yeah was 1501 sdk launch this week? | 06:50 |
| m4g0g | it should | 06:52 |
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| dpurgin | iirc they talked about releasing it at 10th of January | 08:15 |
| meklu | wasn't it scheduled for today? | 08:19 |
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| dpurgin | yeah, you're right, just revisited the mail from Developer Care | 08:26 |
| dpurgin | As mentioned in the release notes for Update 10[1], we will release the corresponding SDK on 5. Jan 2015 and Harbour testing will start using the new rpmvalidator allowing more libraries[2] 7. Jan 2015. | 08:26 |
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| SaberAltria | Help | 08:58 |
| tbr | with what? | 08:58 |
| zutto | did the gnomes steal your underpants too? | 08:58 |
| SaberAltria | After updated to 1.1.1.27 journalctl -faxn -o short-monotonic /usr/bin/maliit-server doesn't work... | 08:59 |
| SaberAltria | In the past, this command can show error log of the input method, but now it shows nothing | 08:59 |
| SaberAltria | How come? | 08:59 |
| tbr | maybe maliit is started with less logging now? | 09:02 |
| tbr | wild guess: modify /usr/lib/systemd/user/maliit-server.service | 09:02 |
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| SaberAltria | tbr, I am making a third-party input method | 09:06 |
| SaberAltria | In old system update, I just use console.warn in qml keyboard file, it could show me the log... | 09:06 |
| SaberAltria | btw, how to modify it? | 09:07 |
| * tbr has no idea about maliit, don't they have an IRC channel? | 09:07 | |
| SaberAltria | I have more hints now | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | upstream community is a bit dead :/ | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | SaberAltria: mail sailfishos devel mailing list | 09:07 |
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| SaberAltria | when I use journalctl -n 200 showing the last 200 log | 09:08 |
| SaberAltria | it shows my log | 09:08 |
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| Elleo | SaberAltria: you might want to try restarting maliit-server with the MALIIT_DEBUG=true environment variable set | 09:08 |
| SaberAltria | but in journalctl -faxn -o short-monotonic /usr/bin/maliit-server it doesnt | 09:08 |
| SaberAltria | @Elleo, I think the logs is recorded correctly now, but the above command shows nothing (cannot filter the log I need) | 09:09 |
| Elleo | SaberAltria: I don't really know anything about journalctl I'm afraid, I haven't played with systemd stuff much yet myself; but whem I'm debugging maliit stuff on ubuntu I typically just restart the server with MALIIT_DEBUG set and it'll output to stdout | 09:11 |
| SaberAltria | Yup... could you tell me how to set the environment variable plz? I am a noob... | 09:12 |
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| Elleo | SaberAltria: stop the current running maliit-server process, then just run "MALIIT_DEBUG=true maliit-server" | 09:13 |
| Elleo | I'm guessing 'systemctl stop maliit-server' should do the job of stopping it with systemd | 09:14 |
| tbr | might be maliit.server | 09:14 |
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| SaberAltria | Oh Thz Let me try first | 09:16 |
| SaberAltria | I typed "MALIIT DEBUG=true maliit-server" but the terminal shows "MALIIT: nd" | 09:19 |
| SaberAltria | *"MALIIT command not found" | 09:19 |
| jmlich | SaberAltria, I guess you should write MALIIT_DEBUG=true with underscore symbol instead of space | 09:20 |
| Elleo | yep, underscore is important | 09:21 |
| SaberAltria | Thz, I am a noob... =m= | 09:21 |
| Elleo | no worries :) | 09:21 |
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| SaberAltria | … | 09:27 |
| SaberAltria | My keyboard cannot popup now... | 09:27 |
| SaberAltria | Srveral times of restart didnt help | 09:28 |
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| SaberAltria | Oh it works now thz god | 09:29 |
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| sandsmark | SaberAltria: maliit seems to suppress qdebug and console.log unless run in debugvmode | 09:38 |
| sandsmark | Debug mode | 09:38 |
| sandsmark | I usually run it manually, though, instead of using the journal | 09:39 |
| SaberAltria | Yes, console.log doesn't work, but console.warn works | 09:41 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: well, we don't need pregenerated swipehints anymore ? | 09:41 |
| SaberAltria | I don't know what is the actual difference between them | 09:41 |
| sandsmark | SaberAltria: .log is for debug output | 09:42 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: thats what i want to measure first before storing them | 09:43 |
| sandsmark | Ah, ok | 09:43 |
| sandsmark | Because storing of dictionaries and swipehints :) | 09:43 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: also the keyboard class is almost done | 09:45 |
| sandsmark | SaberAltria: what kind of keyboard are you making? | 09:45 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: <3 | 09:45 |
| saidinesh5 | im wondering whether to move swipeHints to keyboard class or | 09:45 |
| saidinesh5 | let it stay in abstractmatcher | 09:45 |
| sandsmark | Hmm | 09:45 |
| saidinesh5 | i think it is better left in abstract matcher | 09:45 |
| saidinesh5 | using the keysBeetween | 09:45 |
| saidinesh5 | method from the keyboard clas | 09:45 |
| sandsmark | Yeah | 09:45 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: what are you working on? | 09:46 |
| sandsmark | Now; dayjob | 09:46 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh right | 09:47 |
| sandsmark | Tonight probably hunspell | 09:47 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm... | 09:47 |
| sandsmark | Unless you have a better suggestion | 09:47 |
| saidinesh5 | android dictionary? | 09:47 |
| saidinesh5 | the bits left for the keyboard class are reimplement the functionality you ve implemented with the shift key | 09:49 |
| saidinesh5 | also make the UI talk to the keyboard class | 09:49 |
| saidinesh5 | and wordEngine listen to signals from it | 09:50 |
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| saidinesh5 | but i actually even want to test out the fun stuff you ve been working on.. | 09:51 |
| sandsmark | Okok | 09:52 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: btw. any updates on the mir backend patches i sent? | 09:52 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: also maliit upstream has some of the patches ubuntu touch has been using... | 09:52 |
| saidinesh5 | like the Qt 5.3 one and the gcc one | 09:53 |
| saidinesh5 | and 2 more i think...... | 09:53 |
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| Elleo | saidinesh5: nothing much yet, the whole company shutdown for holidays the past couple of weeks, we're just getting back today | 09:53 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh happy.....monday :p | 09:53 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: oh cool, we should resync our packages | 09:53 |
| Elleo | heh | 09:53 |
| saidinesh5 | also i dont mind doing a bit more work on the mir patches.... if it means the same plugin runs both on sailfish and ubuntu touch | 09:54 |
| saidinesh5 | also i can shamelessly use packages from you then instead of recompiling everything :p | 09:55 |
| saidinesh5 | so please do merge them.. | 09:55 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: yep, I'll try and have a chat with some mir folks this week to make sure things are in their final state from their end and if so we should be good :) | 09:56 |
| saidinesh5 | also Elleo are there any plans to support 3rd party input method installations in ubuntu touch yet? | 09:57 |
| saidinesh5 | like it needs installing to /usr... | 09:58 |
| saidinesh5 | or telling the maliit server things.. | 09:58 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: that's something we're going to be trying to work out to some extent this cycle | 09:58 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah this cycle = 15.04? | 09:58 |
| Elleo | yeah, roughly | 09:59 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 09:59 |
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| Elleo | I'm not sure we'll get to a state where keyboards can be distributed as click packages though | 09:59 |
| saidinesh5 | other than security reasons... | 10:00 |
| Elleo | first off we'll just be focusing on making it possible to have confined keyboards that can be shipped as part of the image | 10:00 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: we don't need /usr, as long as we can touch ~/.config/maliit.org/server.conf :p | 10:00 |
| saidinesh5 | is there any other reason? | 10:00 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah sandsmark ^ | 10:00 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.... | 10:00 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: mostly it's security stuff that we need to work out | 10:00 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 10:00 |
| saidinesh5 | iOS does this nicely afaik | 10:01 |
| saidinesh5 | or i ve heard | 10:01 |
| saidinesh5 | like for passwords etc.. | 10:01 |
| saidinesh5 | it opens the native keyboad | 10:01 |
| saidinesh5 | and anything else the 3rd party ones | 10:01 |
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| Elleo | saidinesh5: yeah, we might do something similar | 10:02 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: it's all a bit sketchy at the moment though | 10:02 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.... | 10:02 |
| saidinesh5 | also forgot to ask | 10:02 |
| sandsmark | Uhm, sounds like it would be impossible with maliit | 10:02 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: what was actually blocking the UI of the ubuntu touch keyboard that you had to move things to a different thread? | 10:03 |
| sandsmark | You load executable code into the maliit process | 10:03 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: they've forked maliit framework too :P | 10:03 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: won't help | 10:03 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: why not? | 10:03 |
| saidinesh5 | i thought maliit already supports multilpe active plugins | 10:03 |
| Elleo | sandsmark: we're going to confine the maliit process with our usual appaprmor confinement system | 10:03 |
| sandsmark | Either you trust the loaded keyboards or you don't | 10:03 |
| Elleo | sandsmark: so it will be very restricted in what it can do | 10:04 |
| sandsmark | Elleo: apparmor is useless | 10:04 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh you meant the security | 10:04 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: I'd just walk the qobject tree and hook whatever I wanted | 10:04 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 10:04 |
| saidinesh5 | or wait | 10:05 |
| saidinesh5 | umm... | 10:05 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: the main stuff we shifted into different threads was the spell checking and prediction stuff | 10:05 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: so hunspell/presage are too slow? | 10:05 |
| sandsmark | Well, the presage code was ... Less than impressive :p | 10:05 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: yeah; getting candidates out of hunspell for large words takes quite a bit of time | 10:06 |
| saidinesh5 | ohh | 10:06 |
| saidinesh5 | and presage? | 10:06 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: presage was better, timewise, but still not brilliant | 10:06 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: since you don't really want any delay between pressing a key and it being registered | 10:06 |
| Elleo | otherwise the whole thing just feels clunky | 10:06 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh right | 10:06 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 10:06 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: hang on, I have a comparison video somewhere | 10:06 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: thatsw hy i was asking you :p | 10:07 |
| saidinesh5 | saw that video | 10:07 |
| sandsmark | But moving it to a background thread only means that users will sometimes click on suggestions that appear after they saw something ... | 10:07 |
| saidinesh5 | and we were implementing a hunspell matcher | 10:07 |
| sandsmark | I think we'll drop it :p | 10:07 |
| saidinesh5 | or work on it later :P | 10:07 |
| saidinesh5 | but yeah | 10:07 |
| saidinesh5 | mostly drop it | 10:07 |
| Elleo | well I'm going to be having a look at chromium's hunspell branch soon | 10:07 |
| saidinesh5 | i do want to test it though | 10:08 |
| sandsmark | Well, I'd rather optimize our own code :p | 10:08 |
| Elleo | that seems to do some nicer stuff | 10:08 |
| saidinesh5 | Elleo: what algorithm does hunspell use? | 10:08 |
| Elleo | I'm mostly looking at that from a memory usage point of view though | 10:08 |
| saidinesh5 | also i thought the chromium people only added more dictionaries to it... | 10:08 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: not sure, haven't looked at the internals much | 10:08 |
| saidinesh5 | didnt know they maintained a whole clone | 10:08 |
| saidinesh5 | oh | 10:08 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: nah, they have a fork that implements a different binary file format | 10:08 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah inteeresting | 10:09 |
| Elleo | saidinesh5: which gets rid of the classic hunspell problem of it loading the whole dictionary into memory | 10:09 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.... | 10:09 |
| Elleo | and so using up ~10MB of RAM all the time | 10:09 |
| saidinesh5 | by mmaping things? | 10:09 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: ^ | 10:09 |
| saidinesh5 | :P | 10:09 |
| saidinesh5 | i soo want to implement the mmap bit | 10:10 |
| saidinesh5 | lets see | 10:10 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: for what part? | 10:14 |
| sandsmark | For the tightly packed tries it makes sense | 10:15 |
| saidinesh5 | 10MB hunspell | 10:15 |
| saidinesh5 | or mmap too | 10:15 |
| sandsmark | Fuck, I forgot how much I hate knee deep snow | 10:17 |
| sandsmark | But yeah, even when we get the 7gb ngrams down to 700mb, that's 70% of the memory on the jolla | 10:18 |
| sandsmark | So we need mmap :p | 10:18 |
| saidinesh5 | we arent looking at 7GB ngrams :P | 10:19 |
| saidinesh5 | https://github.com/johannesthoma/mmap_allocator | 10:20 |
| sandsmark | Wasn't that the English google standard? | 10:20 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: does that work? :p | 10:21 |
| saidinesh5 | it is supposed to... | 10:21 |
| sandsmark | Don't the stl internals use pointers | 10:21 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: they do point to some memory location after all..... | 10:21 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: yeah, which should be invalid when loaded again :p | 10:23 |
| sandsmark | But doesn't matter for the tries | 10:23 |
| saidinesh5 | umm.... | 10:23 |
| saidinesh5 | not just for the tries | 10:23 |
| saidinesh5 | i mean just any arrays...... | 10:23 |
| saidinesh5 | a vector is just an array........ | 10:23 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: explain why you need flickable inside mousearea? | 10:24 |
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| m4g0g | I have popup, which show "running" label (string). For this Label I use flickable. For whole popup - MouseArea {} | 10:25 |
| m4g0g | coderus: ^^ | 10:25 |
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| coderus | why you using flickable for popup? | 10:35 |
| coderus | it's ridiculous | 10:35 |
| m4g0g | because label can have length longer than popup and I want to show it whole like in im popups without multilines | 10:36 |
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| coderus | why you need flickable? | 10:51 |
| coderus | change label x with timer | 10:52 |
| coderus | do marquee | 10:52 |
| coderus | Y U SO COMPLEX, SIR? | 10:52 |
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| m4g0g | coderus: hm | 11:02 |
| m4g0g | but with flickable it's very easy | 11:03 |
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| coderus | цшер адшслфиду шеэы мукн сщьздуч | 11:04 |
| coderus | with flickable it's very complex | 11:04 |
| SK_work | hi coderus | 11:05 |
| coderus | SK_work: hello! i thought about you yesterday | 11:05 |
| SK_work | coderus: why ? :D | 11:05 |
| coderus | aobut patchmanager actually | 11:05 |
| SK_work | ha | 11:06 |
| coderus | we need to put all good patches in separate repo, and make list of available patches inside patchmanager with ability to install/remove without using 3rd aptery stuff | 11:06 |
| coderus | 3rd party* | 11:06 |
| SK_work | coderus: what do you mean without 3rd party stuff | 11:06 |
| coderus | without warehouse | 11:07 |
| SK_work | basically without installing RPMs for patches ? | 11:07 |
| coderus | yes | 11:07 |
| SK_work | Indeed | 11:07 |
| coderus | manage patches inside patchmanager | 11:07 |
| SK_work | but there is a problem with this: security | 11:07 |
| coderus | i can get packagekit classes from BasilSemuonov | 11:07 |
| SK_work | or will you accept that only trusted people will allow uploading patches ? | 11:07 |
| coderus | SK_work: what problem? | 11:07 |
| SK_work | ha | 11:07 |
| coderus | yes, we will put patches in this repo manually | 11:08 |
| SK_work | you mean patchmanager is basically a package manager | 11:08 |
| SK_work | coderus: I'm thinking of something else | 11:08 |
| coderus | actually move packages from one to other | 11:08 |
| SK_work | download patches directly from the internet, from a github.io | 11:08 |
| SK_work | coderus: your solution is interesting too though | 11:08 |
| coderus | well i thought it too | 11:08 |
| coderus | but updating is not always simple | 11:09 |
| coderus | as my patches have additional files, not only diff :) | 11:09 |
| SK_work | coderus: yeah | 11:09 |
| coderus | i can get mod rights in openrepos and move cool patches to trusted repo owner | 11:09 |
| SK_work | coderus: what about just OBS | 11:09 |
| SK_work | just open a project and put everything here ? | 11:10 |
| SK_work | or you prefer openrepos ? | 11:10 |
| SK_work | both are ok for me | 11:10 |
| coderus | who will use obs just for publiching patches? :D | 11:10 |
| coderus | it's about regular patchmakers | 11:10 |
| SK_work | true that OR is easier | 11:10 |
| SK_work | still thinking about no RPM stuff. Can't we just tar some stuff and put them on a website ? | 11:10 |
| coderus | well yes | 11:11 |
| coderus | i used same things for TweakS in symbian | 11:11 |
| SK_work | ha ? | 11:11 |
| SK_work | actually I would like to have some automated way of having patches online | 11:12 |
| coderus | http://kolaysoft.ru/TweakS/index.php?lang=1 | 11:12 |
| SK_work | Access Denied (policy_denied) Your request was categorized by Blue Coat Web Filter as 'Peer-to-Peer (P2P)'. | 11:12 |
| SK_work | :D | 11:12 |
| coderus | all tweaks are available to download and install inside application | 11:12 |
| coderus | and just http://kolaysoft.ru/TweakS/? | 11:12 |
| SK_work | yeah | 11:12 |
| SK_work | I guess kolaysoft.ru won't work :D | 11:12 |
| coderus | lol :D | 11:13 |
| coderus | wtf? :D | 11:13 |
| SK_work | coderus: work, proxy etc. | 11:13 |
| coderus | aha | 11:13 |
| coderus | chekc this then: http://i.imgur.com/shlf3VW.png | 11:14 |
| SK_work | looks good :) | 11:14 |
| coderus | tweaks is just gui for editing symbian registry | 11:15 |
| coderus | no tweaks/mods actually :D | 11:15 |
| SK_work | just like patchmanager indeed | 11:15 |
| SK_work | patchmanager is a gui to call ausmt and do some cleanusp | 11:15 |
| SK_work | coderus: do you need RPM specificities in your patches ? | 11:15 |
| faenil | aww...CentRep...good ol' times | 11:15 |
| faenil | CenRep* | 11:16 |
| coderus | faenil: yeah :D | 11:16 |
| coderus | SK_work: i'm voting for rpm stuff, yes | 11:16 |
| coderus | but if you want you can do both | 11:16 |
| SK_work | true that we can have both | 11:16 |
| coderus | simple patches and complex patches ) | 11:16 |
| SK_work | what I don't like about RPM is the complexity | 11:16 |
| SK_work | refresh cash | 11:16 |
| SK_work | cache | 11:16 |
| SK_work | (not cash :D) | 11:17 |
| faenil | yeah, it takes a lot :( | 11:17 |
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| coderus | pkcon set-repo patchmanager-trusted refresh true true or so :) | 11:17 |
| coderus | it takes 1-2s | 11:17 |
| SK_work | coderus: what about in term of UI ? | 11:17 |
| SK_work | coderus: can be interesting | 11:17 |
| SK_work | mind prototyping this a bit ? :) | 11:18 |
| SK_work | I'm clearly not against it :) | 11:18 |
| coderus | what you mean? | 11:18 |
| kimmoli | ^ pkcon repo-set-data $1 refresh-now true | 11:19 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: yes, thanks :) | 11:19 |
| SK_work | well, there is a need to register the repo via pkcon / packagekit classes | 11:19 |
| SK_work | tell me how to do this (or better code this :)) | 11:20 |
| SK_work | plus refresh and list packages, and we are green I guess | 11:20 |
| coderus | SK_work: as i said it's better to get classes from BasilSemuonov | 11:20 |
| SK_work | coderus: ok | 11:20 |
| SK_work | + access rights to OR | 11:21 |
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| SK_work | coderus: anyway, I'm happy that you agree that patch distribution is at best suboptimal | 11:23 |
| coderus | SK_work: fdfg | 11:29 |
| coderus | SK_work: https://github.com/custodian/orn-warehouse | 11:29 |
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| m4g0g | guys, who have created call vibration patch? | 11:35 |
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| m4g0g | SK_work: ping. Why I can't find this path for u10? | 11:37 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: phone-vibrate patch from patches-base not working? | 11:38 |
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| stephg | SK_work: I have about 10 minutes, can I bother you with a bug/issue with Friends? | 11:41 |
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| coderus | stephg: unfortunately :D | 11:54 |
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| King_DuckZ | hello, is there an app that can recognize songs and tell you the title? | 11:59 |
| coderus | King_DuckZ: only android ones | 12:01 |
| coderus | Shazam and SoundHound. | 12:01 |
| SaberAltria | One more question | 12:03 |
| SaberAltria | can I change my repository author name after created my account in openrepos? | 12:03 |
| coderus | SaberAltria: no | 12:04 |
| coderus | it will break stuff | 12:04 |
| coderus | just create a new one | 12:04 |
| coderus | your repository url contains your name | 12:05 |
| King_DuckZ | hm btw wasn't the store supposed to be updated with support for paying? | 12:06 |
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| coderus | King_DuckZ: sometimes probably | 12:08 |
| King_DuckZ | soundhound looks nice | 12:08 |
| coderus | but it seems to be delayed | 12:08 |
| King_DuckZ | coderus: I thought it was supposed to happen by last october? | 12:08 |
| King_DuckZ | no official news about it? | 12:09 |
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| krnlyng | phaeron: hi, coderus and i are haveing troubles building mupen64plus using the mer platform sdk, sledges said you might be able to help me out. this is the repo: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mupen64plus-sailfish if i run "mb build -t SailfishOS-armv7hl rpm/mupen64plus.spec" i am getting this error (while mupen64plus is linking some so file): "collect2: cannot find 'ld'" do you know what could be wrong? | 12:15 |
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| coderus | same with mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hm build | 12:21 |
| coderus | krnlyng: i compiled every part manually with make | 12:22 |
| coderus | but can't put together with mb | 12:22 |
| coderus | failed at install stage too | 12:22 |
| coderus | /usr/lib/mupen64plus: No such file or directory | 12:22 |
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| SaberAltria | How can I copy text from the XChat IRC chat content list?... | 12:31 |
| SaberAltria | Ctrl+C or Right-Click dont work... | 12:32 |
| coderus | is it desktop xterm app? | 12:32 |
| coderus | then copy text with mouse and press Ctrl+Shift+C magic! same as pasting text with Ctrl+Shift+V | 12:33 |
| SaberAltria | Thz! This question asked by me is quite stupid @.@ | 12:34 |
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| coderus | haha, yeah | 12:34 |
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| SK_work | m4g0g: pong | 13:09 |
| SK_work | stephg: pong | 13:09 |
| SK_work | maybe time has elapsed for stephg | 13:09 |
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| stephg | SK_work: literally about to walk out door | 13:10 |
| stephg | but problem is I have one friend who has no poists, pictures, nothing | 13:10 |
| stephg | I've removedf it | 13:10 |
| stephg | deleted .local stuff | 13:11 |
| stephg | deleted the jolla FB account | 13:11 |
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| stephg | nothing works | 13:11 |
| stephg | got to run but debugging hints appreciated | 13:11 |
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| SK_work | stephg: check his rights on Facebook | 13:25 |
| SK_work | I think it is because he prevented apps to access personnal data from Facebook | 13:25 |
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| SK_work | also, did he accepted all the bunch of permissions asked ? | 13:25 |
| SK_work | hi TMavica | 13:25 |
| SK_work | back to HK ? | 13:25 |
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| krnlyng | coderus: weird because we have "mkdir -p %{buildroot}/usr/lib/mupen64plus" in there | 13:42 |
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| TMavica | hi | 13:50 |
| TMavica | yes, just back | 13:50 |
| TMavica | coderus: still on driving? LOL | 13:51 |
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| SK_work | TMavica: hope not, IRC while driving is not good | 14:00 |
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| meekygeek | Hi All, seems the ssl certificate at https://releases.jolla.com/ had expired. | 14:10 |
| SK_work | tigeli: ^ | 14:11 |
| meekygeek | is there any timeframe when it shall be renewed | 14:11 |
| tigeli | hmm | 14:11 |
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| SaberAltria | Error: Download (curl) error for 'https://releases.jolla.com/releases/1.1.1.27/jolla/armv7hl/qt/armv7hl/qt5-qtdeclarative-import-folderlistmodel-5.2.1+git19-1.22.2.armv7hl.rpm': | 14:13 |
| SaberAltria | Error code: Unrecognized error | 14:13 |
| SaberAltria | Error message: SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired | 14:13 |
| SaberAltria | How to fix this error in SDK compiling apps... | 14:14 |
| meekygeek | yes. looked at the cert. It was valid from 2013 till 1/5/2015 | 14:14 |
| SK_work | SaberAltria: see what meekygeek just said :) | 14:14 |
| meekygeek | which was yesterday | 14:14 |
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| Nicd- | that date format is confusing :( | 14:14 |
| tigeli | Validity | 14:15 |
| tigeli | Not Before: Dec 8 00:00:00 2014 GMT | 14:15 |
| tigeli | Not After : Feb 10 12:00:00 2016 GMT | 14:15 |
| tigeli | valid here | 14:15 |
| SK_work | I thought it was valid until the first of may | 14:15 |
| SK_work | tigeli: you now have two reports | 14:15 |
| SK_work | :D | 14:15 |
| SK_work | so ... :( | 14:15 |
| tigeli | SK_work: well I'm sure it's not expired on the server side | 14:16 |
| SaberAltria | @SK_work How can I browse the IRC hsitory? I think that if I was not online at that time, I would miss message of that period? | 14:16 |
| SK_work | tigeli: valid here if I go to releases.jolla.com | 14:16 |
| SK_work | but maybe not elsewhere | 14:16 |
| SK_work | SaberAltria: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/latest.log.html | 14:16 |
| tigeli | SaberAltria: meekygeek: is that happening only on sdk? | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | that rpm url works for me in wget | 14:17 |
| meekygeek | https://releases.jolla.com/releases/1.1.1.27/jolla/armv7hl/core/armv7hl/patch-2.6.1-1.1.1.armv7hl.rpm | 14:17 |
| meekygeek | doesnt work either | 14:17 |
| SK_work | meekygeek: works here | 14:18 |
| tigeli | meekygeek: is it from inside the sdk? | 14:18 |
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| SaberAltria | Yes | 14:19 |
| tigeli | SaberAltria: can you try outside the sdk? | 14:19 |
| meekygeek | tigeli: I am trying to call zypper install patch in jolla phone, and got an error on cert | 14:19 |
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| SaberAltria | My situation is when I compiling the apps with foldermodel qml type | 14:19 |
| meekygeek | then I tried opening in firefox could also see that cert has expired | 14:19 |
| SaberAltria | I tried wget in ubuntu terminal and firefox too, same error | 14:20 |
| Nicd- | both urls work for me in wget | 14:20 |
| tigeli | hmm | 14:20 |
| Nicd- | SaberAltria: which cloudfront url did you get? | 14:20 |
| SK_work | meekygeek: where are you from | 14:20 |
| SaberAltria | My timezone us UTC+8 Hong Kong | 14:20 |
| meekygeek | I am from singapore | 14:20 |
| tigeli | Nicd-: the certs are installed on load-balancer | 14:20 |
| SaberAltria | cloudfront url ? I dont know this term | 14:21 |
| Nicd- | I got https://dvvwui2qyedk6.cloudfront.net/releases/1.1.1.27/jolla/armv7hl/core/armv7hl/patch-2.6.1-1.1.1.armv7hl.rpm -- can you try that SaberAltria? | 14:21 |
| urjaman | then you're on the 6th day already? | 14:21 |
| tigeli | meekygeek: ok.. I might where the problem is | 14:21 |
| tigeli | meekygeek: a sec | 14:21 |
| tigeli | meekygeek: the location helps me a lot :) | 14:21 |
| SaberAltria | @Nicd your link works like a charm... | 14:21 |
| SK_work | tigeli: I guessed this too, as SaberAltria is from HK | 14:21 |
| SaberAltria | but my link: https://releases.jolla.com/releases/1.1.1.27/jolla/armv7hl/qt/armv7hl/qt5-qtdeclarative-import-folderlistmodel-5.2.1+git19-1.22.2.armv7hl.rpm | 14:22 |
| SaberAltria | failed | 14:22 |
| Nicd- | SaberAltria: try using wget -O /dev/null -S and then see which "Location" header you get | 14:22 |
| tigeli | SK_work: the european load balancer has the new cert.. the asian one does not, for some reason | 14:22 |
| SaberAltria | Let me tried once more, my time is 22:22 pm | 14:22 |
| SK_work | tigeli: hehe | 14:22 |
| SK_work | weired though | 14:22 |
| tigeli | fixing the issue | 14:22 |
| meekygeek | tigeli: cool, glad the fix was found | 14:23 |
| SaberAltria | Oh... it works in SDK and firefox now | 14:24 |
| tigeli | meekygeek: try now | 14:24 |
| SaberAltria | Cool | 14:24 |
| SaberAltria | Thank you so much | 14:24 |
| tigeli | meekygeek: SaberAltria: thanks for reporting the issue :) | 14:24 |
| meekygeek | cool. guess its working now. Thanks a ton !!! | 14:24 |
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| tigeli | SK_work: and thank you too :) | 14:25 |
| SK_work | :) | 14:26 |
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| sledges | 14:22 < coderus> krnlyng: i compiled every part manually with make | 15:11 |
| sledges | did you do that inside the target? | 15:11 |
| sledges | (via sb2) | 15:11 |
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| locusf | ah sdk released | 15:35 |
| sledges | yoohoo! | 15:38 |
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| Nc_ | is it "safe enough" to just run the Update option in the SDK Maintenance tool, or should we uninstall and download a complete package? | 16:03 |
| Jare | Nc_: updating has been tested from both 1407 and 1410, so it should be ok. If there are any issues, you can always try a fresh install too | 16:05 |
| Nc_ | Jare, cheers :) Trying the update step, from 1410, fingers crossed | 16:06 |
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| *** Jare changes topic to "http://www.sailfishos.org - Beta Qt5 SDK 1412 out now for linux/mac/win - MD5s: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/FileInformation_SDK_1412 - https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Beta_Qt5_Known_Issues | For friendly Jolla mobile device community: #jollamobile" | 16:10 | |
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| anYc | is there a way to trigger a remount of the sdcard after I manually repartitioned the card (except rebooting)? | 16:38 |
| urjaman | pull the card out and put it in again? ... | 16:40 |
| urjaman | (or you can just manually unmount it and maybe have fdisk or something trigger a re-scan of the partitioning etc, but...) | 16:41 |
| anYc | hm, isn't it necessary to remove the battery in order to pull it out? | 16:42 |
| urjaman | i put it in without removing the battery ... | 16:42 |
| anYc | ok, thanks! Maybe that was just the case with the n900 | 16:42 |
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| kimmoli | ooo Update time \o/ | 16:47 |
| anYc | "systemctl restart mount-sd@mmcblk1p1.service" did it | 16:47 |
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| kimmoli | Nc_: ping | 17:38 |
| Nc_ | kimmoli, pong | 17:38 |
| kimmoli | was it libiot you were working on? | 17:38 |
| Nc_ | libQTIoT, ya :) | 17:39 |
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| Nc_ | (not sure it is wise of me to include QT in the name, but, hey - it's descriptive) | 17:39 |
| Nc_ | https://github.com/GNious/libQTIoT | 17:39 |
| kimmoli | yes, just browsing there | 17:40 |
| Nc_ | Isn't particularly fancy, or complete, or well-made :) | 17:40 |
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| kimmoli | do you have something that uses your lib already? lightfish QT_Migration branch? | 17:44 |
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| Nc_ | Lightish uses it for controlling lightbulbs | 17:45 |
| Nc_ | https://github.com/GNious/lightfish | 17:45 |
| Nc_ | is how I say your app - uploaded mine to OpenRepos (along with disclaimers...) and saw your YNC app right next to it :) | 17:46 |
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| Nc_ | *saw | 17:46 |
| Nc_ | Also have desktop CLI and QML test-apps for the lib, but not uploaded these as they are too simple currently (not proper test-scenarios) | 17:47 |
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| kimmoli | maybe i need finally get a lifx bulb | 17:53 |
| kimmoli | damn expensive for a bulb though | 17:53 |
| Nc_ | yup, them not cheap | 17:54 |
| Nc_ | even when LIFX was giving me them for free, cost me 30 euros to get it | 17:54 |
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| Nc_ | Anyways, kimmoli, whattaya think of my proposal - you up to helping out with e.g. testing? :) | 17:58 |
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| kimmoli | yes i can. maybe start with the ssdp (or did you have that already?) | 17:58 |
| Nc_ | Well, I haven't gone into details with your sources yet, but no, no SSDP currently in use ... | 17:59 |
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| Nc_ | is it a regular UPnP MediaRender? then I should consider doing the base UPnP first I guess | 18:01 |
| kimmoli | yes afk | 18:02 |
| kimmoli | *afaik | 18:02 |
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| Nc_ | Uki :) | 18:03 |
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| kimmoli | grr, i'm just getting the new QtCreator in not responding state... not so pleasant first minutes | 18:18 |
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| Nc_ | is always interesting trying out stuff after updating | 18:19 |
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| kimmoli | 4th restart, and now i got first sourcefile opened with it | 18:21 |
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| SK_work | kimmoli: :/ | 18:21 |
| kimmoli | now it says no VM found... | 18:22 |
| kimmoli | and not responding | 18:22 |
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| kimmoli | Callee RC: | 18:27 |
| kimmoli | CO_E_SERVER_EXEC_FAILURE (0x80080005) | 18:27 |
| kimmoli | says Virtualbox... | 18:27 |
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| kimmoli | let see does clean install work any better | 18:35 |
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| kimmoli | nope | 18:36 |
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| Nc_ | Darn it, Kimmoli, you've made me reach for my UPnP book, and 3 year old code (that seemingly doesn't quite run under Qt5) | 18:55 |
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| kimmoli | :) | 18:56 |
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| Jare | kimmoli: platform? vbox version? did you use the 1410 or 1407 before this one? | 19:08 |
| kimmoli | Jare: win7-64, vbox 4.3.2, 1407 was before. | 19:09 |
| kimmoli | seems to work better now, made re-install (after update) and first things were "not respoding", now it managed to deploy rpm even | 19:11 |
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| TemeV | Is there anyone awake who would be familiar with accounts plugins? | 19:29 |
| TemeV | I'm trying to get telegram telapathy plugin to work, but I don't know how to get the login code working | 19:30 |
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| NRKA | Hi, the sdk link on sailfishos.org is down is thier another mirror some where? | 19:32 |
| stephg | SK_work: fwiw it's my g/f's account so I should be able to see everything but I will double check | 19:35 |
| stephg | anyway bbl | 19:35 |
| Jare | kimmoli: hm, looks like some generic COM issue between vbox and windows. A clean install of the sdk (and vbox) would've been my suggestion too, hopefully it doesn't reproduce itself | 19:36 |
| kimmoli | will see, did keep vbox at that version | 19:37 |
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| kimmoli | btw, the CoverAction stuff is still "unknown" | 19:38 |
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| NRKA | its is up again now | 19:46 |
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| Olpe | Hey is there anything like a "silica numberpicker"? I mean is the only way to use number keypad for number input from user. Anything like those number pickers in ios? | 21:48 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: i think you will like the AbstractWordMatcher now :p | 22:23 |
| saidinesh5 | https://bitbucket.org/skeyer/skeyer/src/c91645b0270f2a32f9303a8991a358b68c9cc5aa/lib/abstractwordmatcher.h | 22:23 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: ooooh, looks good :D | 22:29 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: will probably look into a mmaped BKTree for now.. and then make 2-3 more commits to make the keyboard accept swipes and keypresses and engine/wordMatcher listen to keyboard instead | 22:29 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 22:29 |
| sandsmark | okok | 22:29 |
| saidinesh5 | finally it is a lot less headachish | 22:29 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 22:29 |
| sandsmark | this looks very good | 22:29 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 22:29 |
| saidinesh5 | also keyboardmodel class seems a lot cleaner now | 22:29 |
| saidinesh5 | i miiiiiiiiiiight add a Key class later on though.. that could reaaaaaaally clean things up | 22:30 |
| saidinesh5 | in keyboardmodel | 22:30 |
| sandsmark | yeah, maybe | 22:30 |
| sandsmark | I don't like the special casing of the space key width :P | 22:30 |
| saidinesh5 | right now Key is just typedef QMap<KeyModifiers, QStringList> Key; | 22:31 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah i know | 22:31 |
| saidinesh5 | but cant do anything about that can we? | 22:31 |
| sandsmark | but this works for now | 22:31 |
| sandsmark | brb | 22:31 |
| saidinesh5 | aye | 22:31 |
| saidinesh5 | we caaaaaaaan specify the geometry for each key individually, but then we are better off creating the whole keyboard in QML | 22:31 |
| saidinesh5 | but then swipeHint generation would be a bit of an ugly thing | 22:32 |
| sandsmark | I'd say just hardcode the space key size.. | 22:32 |
| saidinesh5 | yup. like now :p | 22:32 |
| sandsmark | would it ever vary? | 22:32 |
| sandsmark | well, but not in c++ :p | 22:32 |
| saidinesh5 | sure, if there are more keys in the last row maybe.. | 22:32 |
| saidinesh5 | it is constant now anyways | 22:33 |
| sandsmark | I don't think I've ever seen an onscreen keyboard with variable size space key :D | 22:33 |
| saidinesh5 | its just that it is the only special key now in the whole row | 22:33 |
| saidinesh5 | oh no no..... | 22:33 |
| saidinesh5 | for a given layout it is definitely constant | 22:33 |
| saidinesh5 | but say | 22:33 |
| saidinesh5 | if you are using a different layout with more special keys down there.. | 22:33 |
| sandsmark | hmm | 22:33 |
| sandsmark | oh well, no biggie | 22:34 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 22:34 |
| saidinesh5 | i think 2-3 commits and we can then merge this with master | 22:35 |
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| sandsmark | yup | 22:36 |
| sandsmark | do you want help with any of it? | 22:36 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah thinking | 22:36 |
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| saidinesh5 | what are you working on btw. ? | 22:37 |
| saidinesh5 | also sandsmark how much code would it be to read from a .tgz file? | 22:37 |
| saidinesh5 | the android dictionaries basically are compressed by default | 22:37 |
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| saidinesh5 | also the keyboardmodel class needs some test cases definitely... | 22:38 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: hmm, a lot | 22:44 |
| sandsmark | we can't depend on karchive :p | 22:45 |
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| saidinesh5 | oh well... | 22:50 |
| saidinesh5 | then we'll just unzip the dictionaries | 22:50 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: one shouldn't subclass Qt's containers right? like QMap etc.. ? | 22:51 |
| sandsmark | hmm, it's a huge no-no for stl, but I'm not sure the same is true for qt | 22:52 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm... | 22:52 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: I think it should be okay | 22:52 |
| sandsmark | qstack, qqueue, qmultimap, qmultihash etc. are already subclasses | 22:53 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 22:53 |
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