Thursday, 2015-01-08

saidinesh5sandsmark: what are you working on?00:02
sandsmarkgoing to bed :300:02
saidinesh5Ah cool00:02
sandsmarkand you could make it templated, I guess?00:02
sandsmarknot sure if that mapes sense, though00:02
saidinesh5thats what i meant by allowing pointer types :P00:02
sandsmarkbktrees are only useful for strings00:02
saidinesh5sure but they do need to store *something*00:03
saidinesh5some value too00:03
saidinesh5otherwise just getting similar strings would do us no good..00:03
saidinesh5or maybe it does...00:03
sandsmarkthe point of a bktree is to find similar strings00:03
saidinesh5yes sure00:03
saidinesh5but was saying00:03
saidinesh5we need to maintain a mapping from swipeHints to words too00:03
saidinesh5in case we dont store anything in the BK tree00:04
sandsmarkah, hmm00:04
saidinesh5which only means more memory usage00:04
sandsmarkyeah, might make sense to store words with the swipehints in the tree...00:04
saidinesh5which is okay i think00:04
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saidinesh5umm nah00:04
saidinesh5was thinking of more like indices to words/wordMetadata00:05
saidinesh5because we have to reuse the same BKtree class for matching actual typed words00:05
saidinesh5like one BKTree instance saves the actual dictionary00:06
saidinesh5and one BKTree instance is a cache of the swipeHints00:06
saidinesh5so i ll first abuse the BKTree a little on some swipeHint data00:10
saidinesh5and then make it mmapable00:10
saidinesh5cuz if it turns out that it is too'd be pointless00:11
saidinesh5actually you know what00:12
saidinesh5it stays00:12
saidinesh5and replaces the bruteforcematcher00:12
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saidinesh5sandsmark: the reason being just walking through 52000 words takes about 32millisecond00:16
saidinesh5so with a few more rules like, checking if the characters are neighbours00:17
saidinesh5or the wordlenghts differ drastically00:18
saidinesh5i think we can bring down the number of nodes we compute edit distance for drastically00:18
* saidinesh5 googles on how to make garlic bread00:19
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saidinesh5sandsmark: looks like we need a new distance metric if we want to use BKtree for swipeHints02:17
saidinesh5the only optimization i was able to apply so far was "if the wordlengths differ by search tolerance, dont bother computing the edit distance02:18
saidinesh5and with that the average search time was like 3.5 seconds per word :|02:18
saidinesh5and insertion takes 36 seconds :|02:20
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saidinesh5we cant use the neighbours thing while searching directly because our tree was not built with such a metric as the distance02:23
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saidinesh5one thing we can do is return early during the edit distance during searching if we differ more than the search threshold.....02:29
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lachs0rnot sure how relevant this is but I’m going to mention simhash here03:13
lachs0ralthough I think google owns a patent for pretty much this exact use case :/03:13
* saidinesh5 duck duck goes :P03:25
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saidinesh5hmm.. this looks a little like vector space model..03:34
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saidinesh5lachs0r: do you have any suggestions for fast fuzzy search on a dictionary?03:35
lachs0rwell, I’ve used simhash for that before. years ago. out of boredom, so nothing actually useful ever came of it.03:36
saidinesh5how well does it perform?03:36
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lachs0rall I remember is that using a 64-bit hash instead of 32-bit was nicer, but I don’t remember exact perf numbers03:37
lachs0rit was a naive C implementation, I think simhashing about 300k words did take a few seconds running on a 900 MHz low-power celeron m03:38
saidinesh5well that still sounds  not bad....03:38
saidinesh5i dont mind a day of preprocessign time either if i get the results in ~100-200ms :P03:39
saidinesh5well an edit distance of around k=5 i think and an average word size of.. umm.....03:39
* saidinesh5 checks03:39
lachs0rfor lookup, you could compute the binary binary distance and sort by that03:40
lachs0rbinary hamming distance03:40
lachs0rjust a few extra instructions to the comparison really03:41
lachs0ryou’re only ever comparing hashsize bits per entry03:41
saidinesh5well if it is a sorted list of hashes i think it would be very nice03:42
saidinesh5i dont mind a few false positives either because i can run a proper levenstein's distance on the results03:42
saidinesh5my average word length is 28 here03:43
lachs0rman I remember almost nothing I did back then03:43
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saidinesh5my current plan is to make an edit distance metric taking into the distance between the keys into account03:45
saidinesh5that should hopefully make BK trees still work03:45
saidinesh5because the problem i see with hashing is that it can potentially miss out on the useful suggestions too03:45
saidinesh5need to look up on hamming distance though03:46
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saidinesh5weird.. my maxWordLength is 128....03:48
saidinesh5thats a lot more than i thought it was03:48
lachs0rhamming distance is basically a xor b, then count the 1s03:49
lachs0rso it’s for data of equal length03:49
saidinesh5nope.. no equal length here03:49
lachs0rit works for simhash03:49
saidinesh5but i m sure i can pad zeroes03:49
lachs0rI don’t think that’s going to work well in practice03:50
lachs0rit’s not really useful for comparing strings, but if you have a hash with the required characteristics (i.e. slightly different values get only slightly different hashes, very different values get very different hashes) then it’s a different story03:51
lachs0rI have absolutely no idea how useful all this is for partial matching though.03:57
lachs0rprobably not very.03:57
lachs0rit’d be more useful for e.g. spell checking or finding similar documents03:57
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saidinesh5i kind of need it for spell checking itself03:57
saidinesh5doesnt google have a patent pool that they wont sue from?03:59
lachs0rwho knows03:59
saidinesh5for fossy projects i mean03:59
lachs0rsimhash itself is patented too but there are so many implementations floating around and it’s used in so many places04:01
lachs0rI don’t think they’re going to sue anytime soon04:01
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lachs0rwhoever wrote that article had too much fun with *tex04:22
lachs0rI remember losing sleep reading a paper on one such algorithm years ago04:27
lachs0rthen implementing it in like 40 lines of C04:27
lachs0rseriously, math people :|04:27
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lachs0rthere is this world of clever algorithms people have invented that I have no access to because I cannot read mathspeak04:29
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lachs0rsometimes I’m lucky enough to find some example code written in the worst matlab imaginable because these people are not programmers04:30
lachs0rmost of it doesn’t actually work.04:31
saidinesh5yeah.. weirdly i think they say the same thing about programmers lol04:31
lachs0rseems like it’s common for instructors to tell students not to share any code because it could be stolen04:31
saidinesh5simhash based spell checker's patent got granted last year......04:39
saidinesh5was filed in 2011......04:39
lachs0ryou could always come up with your own LSH ;D04:42
lachs0rbasically just replace simhash with another LSH and you’re good, I guess04:42
saidinesh5hheh yup04:45
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Olpekmmmoli: making my own timepicker dialog works like a charm. Took 5 min to implement (first thing i did this morning)06:01
Olpei meant kimmoli06:01
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kimmoliOlpe: good07:04
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Olpekimmoli: update available in openrepos. Wanna give it a try?08:19
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kimmoliOlpe: will check later today08:20
Olpeok thx08:20
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kimmoliOlpe: checked briefly. cant start timer, says error. saving hours doesnt save them08:28
kimmoliOlpe: haven't tested any earlier version08:28
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Olpei think you should :) kimmoli08:31
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kimmoliOlpe: it has created only a empty sqlite db08:41
Olpeoh shit08:42
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: what the fuck have you done :D08:51
sandsmarksaidinesh5: I'll take a look later08:51
sandsmarksimhash was pretty simple and cool08:52
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daithefluhi !09:42
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daithefluis it OK to use QStandardPaths::DataLocation to store a sqlite db ?10:11
Nicd-daitheflu: for settings?10:12
daithefluNicd-: nope, for data :)10:12
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Armadillois it possible to fill a Slider with several values from an array instead to use the stepsize?10:26
m4g0gwhat package manager used in sailfish?10:28
Yanielpkcon is the cli tool10:30
m4g0gjolla has sociald 0.1.7 version, but github has only 0.1.410:32
SK_workm4g0g: check tags10:33
SK_workdoes github have tag 0.1.710:33
sandsmarkjolla or nemo?10:33
SK_workbecause the spec means nothing, as version is generated from tag10:33
SK_workgit tag that is10:33
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m4g0gSK_work: argh. Thx10:45
m4g0gwriting code for picasa much easier than make it work in jolla's environment10:47
kimmolioo, are we getting picasa shareplugin?10:47
m4g0gIf I can integrate it with accounts ui - yes10:47
m4g0gc++ code are ready10:48
m4g0gkimmoli: but no share plugin. First of all - sync plugin as facebook images, after that, I hope, share plugin10:48
SK_workm4g0g: did you managed having something working ?10:49
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m4g0gkimmoli: i have libsocialcache with working google images test. I have google images plugin for buteo, which should working, because I used code from my working picasa plugin for Leechcraft10:54
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m4g0gSK_work: was to you ^^10:55
SK_workm4g0g: did you tested syncing images ?10:55
m4g0gargh, can't install my plugin10:55
SK_workwhy ?10:55
SK_workzypper -f10:55
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SK_workpkcon -f10:55
m4g0gnothing provides sociald = 0.1.7-10.1.2, necessary for sociald-google-images-0.1.7-10.1.2.armv7hl10:56
m4g0grpm -q sociald => sociald-0.1.7-10.1.2.jolla.armv7hl10:56
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SK_workm4g0g: what about forcing ?10:59
SK_workhow did you compiled the packages ?10:59
m4g0gin qt creator for armv arch, as usually for jolla11:01
m4g0gunknown flags: -f, --force, force11:01
SK_workpkcon install zypper11:04
SK_workzypper in -f <package-name>11:04
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m4g0gI replace sociald and all plugins with new rebuilded version and now there are not facebook and google account11:21
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m4g0gfuck, now I can't restore google and facebook at all11:25
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m4g0ggood job...I broke sociald11:32
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m4g0gArmadillo: very funny!11:38
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m4g0gthis is all without any profit11:54
m4g0gI can't create jolla-gallery-plugin for google11:54
hesetyshow can I execute the dalvik VM in my Jolla from command line? I have a android apk that won't isntall (due it proparbly "requiring" too new android version and I wonder if I cane get it running from command line..)11:56
leszekhesetys: normally dalvik should run in the background and is started via a systemd service file. In your case I would rather try hacking the apk and see if it has a version requirement there and if it has setting it to lower. I don't see any other practical way11:57
leszekat least not if you want to mess around11:57
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chem|stm4g0g: rephrasing your request, you want to make a picasa account pugin with the option to not download your picasa folders to the device12:10
m4g0gI want to add google-images to buteo-sync + add possibility to see images in gallery like facebook12:11
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m4g0gif first part I can do with some changes in accounts ui, but second path I can't do at all12:12
chem|stpicasa down+upload? + view in gallery12:12
m4g0gdown + view in gallery. upload, I think, I should do via share plugin12:13
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anandrkrisHi - Just quick confirmation before i post in TJC...12:49
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anandrkrisIn Landscape view of Documents application, there is no visual indicator of Index page12:49
anandrkrisScreen is split into half on tap showing sharing options but there is no glow to indicate there is Index page12:50
m4g0ghmm. I have label. Is it possible to show x position of text? coderus - you said that this is possible12:50
anandrkrisis this a regression of removing hierarchy for pages?12:50
j-dogeanandrkris: the glowing dot indicating a previous view should be there, if it's not and there is a previous view it's a bug12:52
anandrkrisglowing dot appears on on end not on another..12:53
anandrkriswait..let me get a snapshot12:53
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j-dogeanandrkris: I'm inclined to say the dot is on the right hand side of the screen, which makes it completely invisible against the white background :P13:02
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j-dogewhich does sound like a design oversight13:03
anandrkrisj-doge: frantically searching for non-white bg pdfs :-)13:04
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anandrkrisshall i file this under ?13:06
j-dogeanandrkris: I think I'll make an internal bug about it, since it might affect some other areas as well13:06
anandrkriscool then13:07
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j-dogeyeah, the glowin dot is there (converted a pic to pdf), it's just invisible over a white background :)13:10
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tortoisedochas anyone attempted to get user-side systemd services up and running13:16
tortoisedocand did they succeed? :)13:16
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kimmolitortoisedoc: fails miserably on boot13:19
kimmolifails to start on boot13:19
SK_workm4g0g: for gallery plugin you need to install specific files at specific places13:20
SK_workwill tell you13:20
SK_workbut the best is to do a rpm -ql jolla-gallery-facebook13:20
SK_workto get the list of files13:20
SK_workand then, read how they are done13:20
m4g0gSK_work:  yes13:21
tortoisedockimmoli : i found some old mail in the devlist13:21
m4g0gI did this13:21
tortoisedocare you referring to that with "fails miserably on boot"?13:21
m4g0gand between qml files there is one so13:21
tortoisedockimmoli : ack so that is generally speaking? :|13:22
tortoisedocthat sucks13:22
tortoisedocthere is not even cron ;_;13:22
kimmolimy service was in the etc/systemd/user, afaik there is also place under /home/nemo13:22
kimmolinow i start my user-service from system servicve via dbus13:23
tortoisedocyeah etc/systemd/user is the place i had it in too13:23
tortoisedocinteresting option13:23
kimmolii had lots of things to do as root, also as nemo13:24
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kimmolitried first user service with suid, that kinda worked13:25
kimmolibut had issues getting /run/user/100000 locked to root13:25
SK_workm4g0g: see the only file (FacebookCacheSomething.qml) in /usr/share/jolla-gallery/mediasources ?13:25
anandrkrisHi - Is it necessary to connect Jolla to PC using offical USB cable?13:25
kimmolii did give up, have root(system) service, and separate user service for nemo-stuff13:25
SK_workjust take this, rename to picasa something13:25
SK_workanandrkris: no13:25
anandrkris"Error initializing camera: -1: Unspecified error " getting this error on Mint 17.113:25
SK_workm4g0g: remove all models stuff, and put a dummy model (like ListModel)13:26
SK_workcheck what happens13:26
Nicd-anandrkris: USB cable doesn't matter13:26
SK_worka new square should display in gallery for picasa stuff13:26
Nicd-it's just a standard cable13:26
anandrkrismtp-detect | grep idVendor ran this command13:26
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anandrkris > results here13:27
m4g0g12 line13:27
SK_workm4g0g: yep13:27
m4g0g> *.so13:28
SK_workcp /usr/share/jolla-gallery/mediasources/FacebookCacheMediaSource.qml /usr/share/jolla-gallery/mediasources/GoogleCacheMediaSource.qml13:28
m4g0gc+ library13:28
SK_workthis file controls the "square" in gallery13:28
SK_workinside you can do what you want basically13:28
m4g0gI am trying13:28
anandrkrishmm...not sure it its a Mint Issue or Jolla issue!13:28
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SK_workm4g0g: edit the file heavily13:30
SK_workremvoe the facebook model stuff and put something smaller13:30
SK_work(like a dummy ListModel)13:30
SK_work(the model is used to show sliding photos)13:30
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kimmoliSK_work: while you are there, any idea?
SK_workkimmoli: I have seen this13:33
SK_workno idea but didn't checked13:33
SK_workreally deeply13:33
kimmoliyeah, i dont know even where to start :(13:33
m4g0gSK_work: now I am finishing with linksbag and will return to google-images13:34
SK_workkimmoli: src/toholed.cpp:19 where is the code ?13:34
kimmolithat has #include qdbus13:35
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sandsmarkkimmoli: try doing the other includes after the Qt includes?13:37
kimmolithis did build october, and haven't had issues doing them this way on other projects13:38
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sandsmarkdo you have all the same includes in the same order in the other projects?13:39
sandsmarkwithout looking into the header files, my guess is that some of the headers you include before qtdbus modifies something that qtdbus uses13:39
anandrkrisits throwing crazy errors when connected with usb unplugged it...erratic behavior..connects at times though13:40
sandsmarksomething seems to define something qvariant uses to M_PI or something?13:41
sandsmarkkimmoli: also try wrapping the c headers in extern "C" {} ?13:42
tortoisedockimmoli : it seems like a MOC issue13:42
tortoisedocdid you try full rebuild?13:42
tortoisedocor does that happen by default on OBS?13:42
kimmolithis is on mer-obs13:42
sandsmarktortoisedoc: uhm, where do you see moc involved?13:42
kimmoliafaik it install whole vm at start13:42
sandsmarkI don't see how moc would be involved in main.cpp13:42
tortoisedocisnt this generated by mok?13:43
sandsmarkmoc-files are moc_foo.cpp or foo.moc13:43
SK_workkimmoli: weired, why do you include QtDBus as a whole ?13:43
SK_workcan't you include QDBusSomething ?13:43
sandsmarkSK_work: that's what he does: #include <QtDBus/QtDBus>13:43
sandsmarkdidn't read :D13:43
kimmolii dont know13:43
sandsmarkSK_work: any dbus-think will drag in qtdbusdepends anyways?13:43
sandsmarkso I don't think that would change anything13:44
kimmolii usually end up to something that works (thourhg headbanging process)13:44
tortoisedockimmoli : likewise , standard procedure in Jolla :P13:44
tortoisedockimmoli : do you get same result if you inlcude qt headers before your headers?13:45
sandsmark                const QtMetaTypePrivate::VariantData d1 = pi.first();13:45
kimmolii havent tried any changes to the code yet13:45
sandsmarkkimmoli: you include something that define pi to an actual pi13:45
kimmolii tried to opposite method, ask first13:45
sandsmarkkimmoli: put the dbus include first13:45
sandsmarkor wrap the c-headers in extern "C" {} might work as well13:46
SK_workwhy is there pi in some qmetatype ? :s13:46
sandsmarkbecause it's a PairInterface13:46
sandsmarkand typing out pairInterface is hard :p13:46
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tortoisedocpi === PairInterface? :P13:46
sandsmark                QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImpl pi = v.value<QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImpl>();13:46
SK_workI see13:46
kimmoliand as said before, this issue didn't occur before OBS sailfish-latest was updated13:47
sandsmarkafter typing out QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImpl you don't want to type a huge variable name :p13:47
SK_workwell played13:47
sandsmarkkimmoli: yeah, some header probably changed13:47
SK_workkimmoli: DBus headers changed ?13:47
tortoisedocthat seems to be pi value13:47
kimmoliclose enouhg?13:47
sandsmarkwelcome to the party tortoisedoc :p13:47
tortoisedocsandsmark : where's my hat :P13:47
* sandsmark hands tortoisedoc a hat13:48
sandsmarkit's green13:48
* tortoisedoc yippee13:48
kimmolimy hat has ears13:48
kimmoliso they use pi for QPairVariantInterfaceImpl, and also pi for 3.14...13:49
SK_workkimmoli: you might have declared pi as a maro13:49
sandsmarkqvariant.h uses pi as a variable name, some other header you include #define pi as 3.14.....13:49
sandsmarkand defining something two letters long is bad form :P13:49
kimmolisrc/oled.h:#define pi (3.14159)13:50
Nicd-hahaha :D13:50
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sandsmarkdo I get a prize?13:50
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SK_workdefining something with low letters is bad too13:51
sandsmarkglobal constants and #defines should always be ALL UPPERCASE13:51
kimmoliafaik i did copy this part from some arduino code...13:51
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kimmoliwill test and answer to my mail13:54
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Armadillohmmm, I have a long list of values (currently 34), from which the user can choose, but as those are not directly connected mathematically, a solution with a slider doesn't seem to be possible14:02
Armadilloalso a comboboy with 34 options seems not a good solution to me14:02
Armadilloany ideas?14:02
sandsmarkArmadillo: array/vector with the different values?14:03
Armadillothere will also be more sliders with other options on the page, so this should be highly compact14:03
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sandsmarkso, first value at first point in the vector, second value in the second point, etc.14:03
sandsmarkand then just use the value from the slider to look up the actual value14:03
Armadillowhy haven't I found myself to this simple solution14:04
Armadillothanks :D14:04
sandsmarkhaha, np14:04
sandsmarksimple solutions are usually the hardest to come up with :p14:05
sandsmarkand it helps to have not thought too much about the problem already14:05
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Armadilloso true :)14:05
kimmoliaka lookuptable14:06
sandsmarkLUTs ftw14:06
sandsmarkthat's probably where I got it from, though I don't do precalcing much anymore :p14:07
kimmolii almost suggested that when Armadillo asked that first-time, but i did keep it so obvious that didnt14:07
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saidinesh5sandsmark: i was trying to create a BKtree for just swipehints for the benchmark14:12
saidinesh5but like expected, the editDistance method was too.........14:12
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saidinesh5also i think the "balancedness of the tree" also comes into picture at this scale...14:13
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sandsmarkjust like my gf14:15
sandsmarkbut yeah, I don't think manipulating the "balance" can help14:15
saidinesh5i think it does14:16
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saidinesh5right now its seearching 10000 nodes...14:16
saidinesh5but more importantly we need a faster edit distance metric14:16
saidinesh5if we need to use BKtrees14:17
sandsmarksaidinesh5: sure, but there's no way to "balance" it that's optimal for everything14:17
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saidinesh5was thinking more about adding a child only if it starts off with a neighbour key..... or something like that14:19
saidinesh5at least for the root node14:20
saidinesh5but yeah a new metric for edit distance is more important i guess14:20
sandsmarkhmm, I'm not sure I understand what that would be14:21
sandsmarksomething like simhash?14:21
saidinesh5could be.....14:22
sandsmarksimhash didn't seem so complicated, try implementing it?14:22
saidinesh5was wondering if something  like cos or something14:23
saidinesh5sandsmark: the problem is it's recall rate14:23
saidinesh5or wait thats signature hash14:23
saidinesh5did you check the other link out btw. ?14:24
sandsmarkwhich link?14:26
sandsmarkso much text14:31
saidinesh5scroll down to the results then14:32
sandsmarkwhat is n-gram m2?14:35
sandsmarkbut n-grams seems to the way to go anyways14:35
sandsmarkor, depends on the quality of the results as well, I guess14:36
saidinesh5that guy optimized ngrams a little14:36
saidinesh5btw. this is NOT the NLP modification14:36
saidinesh5*NLP ngrams14:36
saidinesh5this is more of14:36
saidinesh5split a word into chunks14:36
saidinesh5of Ngrams14:36
saidinesh5like VODKA = VOD, ODK, DKA14:37
saidinesh5okay that was a bad example.....14:37
sandsmarkyeah, I saw that14:37
sandsmarkbut what is m2?14:37
saidinesh5"We can even slightly reduce the size of iterating set by separating tables by word length, and, similarly, scanning only the neighboring 2k+1 tables (second modification M2)."14:38
sandsmarkah, ok14:39
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netvandalguys, there is standard icons for buttons in sailfish?14:56
sandsmarkyeah, you access them with some magic url like image://foobar or something14:57
SK_worknetvandal: ls /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons14:57
SK_workand to use them14:57
SK_workif you want to use icon-l-foobar.png, use in your qml code: "image://theme/icon-l-foobar"14:57
netvandalSK_work: perfect , thankyou14:57
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meekygeeksandsmark, SK_work: Good Evening !!! Today studied the strace logs of firefox build as suggested by you guys.15:28
meekygeekthe polling happens on 4 fd. fd=4, fd=8, fd=22, fd=3115:29
meekygeekdid a lsof and tried to find out the open fds of firefox based on pid.15:30
SK_workmeekygeek: just a quick inteersting test you cand o15:30
meekygeekfd=4 is a anon_inode[eventfd] and all the rest are socket fds.15:30
SK_workinstall fedora 21 gnome wayland15:30
SK_worktry to build firefoxqt wayland version and make it run on a desktop ?15:31
SK_workmight be easier to debug15:31
SK_workespecially the wayland tricky part ?15:31
SK_workwhat do you think15:31
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meekygeeksure, can try it.15:32
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giucamkrnlyng: ping15:34
meekygeekone question though. while I was exploring open file descriptors, could see /run/user/100000/weston-shared-PhBepK (deleted). However I thought weston is not the compositor used in sailfish. am I missing something?15:34
krnlynggiucam: pong15:34
giucamkrnlyng: i see that you've used apitrace on the phone15:35
giucamkrnlyng: how did you build it? it fails looking for Xlib stuff15:35
krnlynggiucam: not successfully unfortunately15:35
giucamdid you manually modify the eglplatform.h?15:35
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krnlynghm i actually don't remember any xlib issues15:35
krnlynggiucam: no i didn't edit eglplatform15:36
krnlyngwhat is the error?15:36
giucamkrnlyng: apitrace/thirdparty/khronos/EGL/eglplatform.h:115:22: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory15:38
SK_workmeekygeek: maybe firefox is relying on weston a bit too much ?15:38
giucamwhich makes sense, looking at the header15:38
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SK_workthat's weired15:38
meekygeekSK_work: hmm. yeah interesting15:39
krnlynggiucam: maybe i added -DMESA_EGL_NO_X11_HEADERS i think there was something like that15:40
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meekygeekSK_work: But, atleast it conveys that it is really trying to run in wayland as weston is (somehow) related to wayland :-)15:41
SK_workit should crash if it wasn't trying to run with wayland15:43
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krnlynggiucam: if you get apitrace to work propely please let me know15:44
giucamkrnlyng: sure15:45
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meekygeek*sigh* build was sucessful. but unable to launch!!! Similar to a medical operation successfull but patient no more :-)15:46
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dpurginguys, does anyone use the harbour-callrecorder here?15:58
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dpurgincan you please change output location to SD card and check if new call will be recorded and played back with no problem?16:02
dpurginI tried and it works16:02
dpurginthere has been a report on openrepos saying that old files were relocated and playable but the new ones show 0 size16:03
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anandrkrisHi - Clipboard doesn't get updated at all ( workarounds known instead of rebooting? :-)16:31
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SK_workanandrkris: killall maliit-server ?16:33
anandrkrisrequires su privileges?16:33
anandrkrisdoesn't help :-(16:38
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anandrkrisneither does systemctl --user restart maliit-server.service16:44
anandrkrisas suggested in
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kriszikHi could someone help me troubleshooting the new SDK? Since I installed SDK 1412 I get rsync error when I want to deploy even with the default boilerplate Sailfish app. SSH works fine, connection test in SDK is successful.16:48
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giucamkrnlyng: it works18:24
giucambut i had to hack out a weird bug18:25
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krnlynggiucam: oh nice, what was it?18:39
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Armadillothe new sdk always hangs up on my win7 x64 machine, reinstalled it 3 times :-/19:57
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kimmoliArmadillo: not respoding?20:05
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Armadillono particular usecase, it works some seconds, then gets unresponsive for several minutes20:05
kimmolipatience, i have that too, but after i get project and source opened, it works kinda fine20:06
kimmoliusually not responding after i have started it20:06
ArmadilloI also have this if I'm browsing for the project files to open it for example20:06
kimmolihmm. for me it stops "not responding" after a moment20:07
kimmolii.e. it keeps responding then20:07
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ArmadilloI'll install it to the second ssd to exclude hardware issues20:07
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Armadillosame problem :-/20:10
Armadilloany other paths to search for old sdk fragments which should be removed than ~/AppData/Roaming ?20:12
OlpeDoes anyone know what would cause the blank white webview issue that some users are experiencing in the FMI Weather app? Difficult to fix because I can't reproduce it20:16
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Armadilloit also happens with deactivated AV scanner >(20:24
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Armadillohardware seems to be ok relating to hd tune, full viruscans were ok, too20:28
JareArmadillo: there's a user config dir SailfishBeta1, which doesn't get removed by the installer, but nothing else besides that20:29
kimmolisomething fishy with new qtcreator20:29
kimmoliwith win7-6420:29
ArmadilloI had an old Alpha directory which I removed 5 reinstalls ago20:29
Armadilloso this shouldn't cause this20:29
Armadillomakes the sdk completely useless :-/20:30
JareVMs work as usual though?20:30
Armadillowell it's not easy to try20:31
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Armadilloit freezes every 5-10 seconds for 30 seconds20:31
kimmolii started sdk just, and this time no issues at all20:33
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Jarehmm, there's one thing that comes to my mind with that kind of random hangs20:34
JareArmadillo: start qtcreator, go to Help->About Plugins, disable UpdateInfo and restart qtcreator20:35
ArmadilloI'll try20:35
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Armadillodoesn't seem to help20:37
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Armadilloit's marked as deactivated after restart, but I have the same hangs20:38
Armadilloalthough it doesn't seem to me, that they are completely random20:39
Armadillothe time it hangs (something over 30 seconds) and the time it works between the hangs (5-10 seconds) seem to be the same length each time20:40
Armadilloand there's no difference if I'm doing something on the UI or if it's just idling20:40
Armadilloit seems to work after the mersdk vm has been started20:43
ArmadilloI'm double checking this...20:43
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Armadillothat's it20:45
Jareok, you can re-enable the plugin then. There were some changes on how it interacts with the vms, so it could well be a bug there20:46
Armadillooh, my virtualbox version is quite old (4.3.6 instead of 4.3.20)20:46
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ArmadilloI'll update virtualbox, maybe there were changes in the virtualbox background services20:46
Jareiirc kimmoli had the latest and greatest20:47
Jarein case this is the same issue20:47
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kimmoliold as stick and stone20:47
Jaretwentyish :B20:48
Jarewell try the latest one and tell me if it works20:48
Armadilloremoving old virtualbox version before installing new one on windows?20:49
Armadillocan't be to bad20:50
Jarei guess it should handle an update, but if you want to be sure...20:50
Armadillolets see...20:52
Armadillorestarted the whole machine to be sure the old services got killed20:52
Armadilloyes, it worked20:53
Armadillono more hangs without a running mersdk vm20:53
Armadillothanks for the help :)20:53
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Jareok great, i'll update the documentation at some point...20:54
Jarekimmoli ^20:54
ArmadilloJare also with enabled UpdateInfo everything works fine now :)20:54
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Armadillothanks again and good night everyone20:55
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kimmolihave to check updating if my propblems reproduces them20:55
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kimmolitested few start, open project, deploy rounds and everything was fine20:56
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Olpeso nobody knows what causes the blank webview issue? Does somebody here happen to get it?21:18
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muppisIs there workaround to make alarm to use selected tone and not default one?21:31
muppisSelected tone is in same dir where selected ringtone is and ringtone works. So is that just a bug in jolla-alarm-ui not to obey settings?21:33
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attahmuppis: sure it is not just overridden by a ambience?21:34
muppisI'll check.21:36
attahjust a guess.. and i need to go, good luck!21:36
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tortoisedocdoes anyone have a clue21:38
tortoisedochow to debug the .yaml -> .spec conversion tool?21:38
tortoisedocfor some incredible reason21:38
tortoisedocmy .spec file is not generated anymore21:38
tortoisedocsince I switched to the latest sdk release21:38
tortoisedoci found out i had it in the wrong place and moved it in the correct one21:39
tortoisedoc(the yaml file)21:39
tortoisedocbut still it does not generate a .spec for me21:39
tortoisedocand annnnnnoooooooooying21:39
tortoisedocoh well21:40
tortoisedoctime to go to bed :P21:40
tortoisedochave a good one!21:40
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muppisOh. So ambience overrides system sounds if set favorite. So could system setting then show ambience settings to have effect?21:46
raa700ofc not21:56
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tigelimuppis: only favorited ambiences override system sounds22:01
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