Friday, 2015-01-09

* lpotter grumbles about android sensors api00:02
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ThaodanHey I have have a question: Ophono postet this in journalctl:  Call 1 ended with RIL cause 6553500:30
Thaodanwhat does this mean?00:30
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saidinesh5sandsmark: do you want to guess what i am up to? :P06:48
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zGrrmoin :)07:19
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muppistigeli, I noticed that.08:13
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muppisraa700, why not? Quite annoying to have two places where sounds can be adjusted and othe doesn't have effect at all, if favorited ambience and doesn't remember it.08:14
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stephgmorning guys08:36
Stskeepsmorning stephg08:36
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tortoisedockontio : ping10:24
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netvandalHi all, i just updated the sdk, and i run into a problem. I had to make a new kit in build and run, but i can't chose the mer target10:42
sandsmarksaidinesh5: mmapping or hunspelling or ngramming?10:44
saidinesh5option 210:45
saidinesh5we cant go ahead with mmapping for BKtrees unless we have a decent enough editDistance funciton10:45
saidinesh5hunspelling is a mixed bag so far for me though.....10:46
saidinesh5it works well when it works10:46
saidinesh5when it doesnt..... you cant do much about it...10:46
saidinesh5except add another dictionary of errors to "remap" the correct suggestions.....10:46
saidinesh5sandsmark: which one do you have more faith on? ngramming or simhashing?/10:48
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saidinesh5(the hunspell matcher is almost done.... will be done by tonight)10:48
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: simhashing + bktrees?10:48
saidinesh5i doubt if that would work......10:49
saidinesh5does sim hashing maintain traingle   inequality?10:49
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sandsmarksaidinesh5: without thinking too hard about it (because that hurts) I think so11:26
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King_DuckZhello, sometimes from the settings screen the internet connection option is grayed out I can't enable it, even though I never disabled it, and the only workaround I found is going into flight mode and back12:12
King_DuckZwhy is that happening?12:12
King_DuckZthe only recent changes I can think of are the system update and me installing the situations app, though I don't start it anymore because it drains my battery12:13
sandsmarkI've had that issue as well, but I had to reboot to get it back12:17
sandsmark(and I don't have the situations app)12:18
Armadillomaybe network restart from sailfish utilities helps?12:20
sandsmarkbah, forgot to try that12:21
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King_DuckZI can try, I have it installed12:28
King_DuckZinternet button is enabled and clickable again12:29
kontiotortoisedoc: pong12:30
King_DuckZthat's probably a bit quicker than going into flight mode (wait 5 secs), but how do I fix the problem so that it doesn't happen anymore?12:30
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tortoisedockontio : I am having a funny situation with rom folder12:35
tortoisedocmy proj has two subprojects12:36
tortoisedoc(A, B)12:36
kontioyou mean rpm folder?12:36
saidinesh5sandsmark: also with hashing isnt the ideal data structure some kind of vector?12:38
saidinesh5i mean just pick the nearest entries to the current index from the vector12:38
sandsmarksaidinesh5: the hashing is just to get a similiarity comparison that's faster than edit distance12:39
sandsmarknow it's just hash + xor + bitcount12:39
sandsmarkand the bitcount can be a lookup table12:39
sandsmarkso O(1) basically12:40
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saidinesh5it would be O(1) if we have values arranged in a vector isnt it?12:40
sandsmarkor n if n is the length of the word, but that's negligible12:40
tortoisedockontio : yes12:40
sandsmarkwell, I don't know how you would do it in a vector12:40
tortoisedockontio : out of subprojects a, b b is the one who is ending up in the rpm12:41
saidinesh5sort based on hash values12:41
sandsmarkbut yeah, O(log n) probably12:41
saidinesh5and blindly store it in a vector12:41
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tortoisedoc(and hence the rpm  folder is located in <root>\b\rpm12:41
sandsmarksaidinesh5: but you need to search based on difference between the hashes12:41
tortoisedocfor some reason12:41
sandsmarkthe hash values by themselves can't be used12:41
saidinesh5as long as you are looking at "nearest"12:41
tortoisedocthe SDK does not build rpm with the latest version anymore12:41
saidinesh5just sorted based on hash values should work doesnt it?12:41
tortoisedocits looking for the rpm folder in <root>\rpm12:41
saidinesh5why not?12:41
sandsmarksaidinesh5: how would you do that?12:41
sandsmarkthen you would need to compare every single hash against the current one12:42
sandsmarkto find the one with the lowest diff12:42
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saidinesh5hmm? no no12:42
tortoisedockontio : is there a way to enable debug to know which yaml file is being used?12:42
tortoisedoc(when building rpm I mean)12:42
saidinesh5assume that you have a vector of values which are sorted based on their hash12:42
saidinesh5whenever you need to search for a word12:43
saidinesh5compute it's has and kind of binary search on that vector12:43
sandsmarkbut what you want is the lowest bit difference12:43
sandsmarkso you need to diff each hash against your current hash12:43
saidinesh5ah for lowest bit difference12:43
saidinesh5i guess12:44
sandsmarkI think it should be possible to do something like a burger king tree for this as well12:44
sandsmarkand then we should patent it :p12:44
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sandsmarka Dinesh-Martin tree12:44
sandsmarkor Manajipet-Sandsmark, they usually use the last names12:45
kontiotortoisedoc: do you have the code somewhere public? so I can look and it and make sure I understand you correct :) I'm not aware of a way to enable debugging for that part12:45
tortoisedockontio : unfortunately not12:46
tortoisedockontio : but I can probably setup some test project12:46
tortoisedockontio : not now tho12:46
kontiotortoisedoc: so subproject you call what has it's own .pro file?12:46
kontiotortoisedoc: and in <root>/ you include the a/ and b/, and you have a <root>/rpm/foo.yaml and <root>/rpm/foo.spec file, but in in the RPMS folder just binaries from b/ project end up in the .rpm file?12:48
kontioand the RPMS folder is in <root>/b/ ?12:48
tortoisedockontio : almost12:48
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tortoisedocin <root>/ i have a/ and b/; b is the project which should end up in the rpm, hence the yaml file is in <root>\b\rpm\12:49
saidinesh5okay after this hunspell matcher, simhashing comes next...12:50
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saidinesh5although tempted to do the android dictionary first12:51
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saidinesh5grrr qmake13:00
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saidinesh5doesnt qmake pass CONFIG+=something options to subfolders?13:05
saidinesh5subdirs i mean...13:05
sandsmarkqmake -r?13:06
saidinesh5nah i was typing the CONFIG+= in the application's run arguments instead of13:13
saidinesh5qmake's arguments :P13:13
sandsmarkhah, ok13:15
saidinesh5btw. i was also looking at
saidinesh5seems interesting...13:15
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sandsmarkit's searching for substrings, though13:24
saidinesh5but the search algorithm itself...13:25
saidinesh5the match i mean13:25
sandsmarkbut brain tired13:26
saidinesh5the thing is even if some el weirdo algorithm gives us like13:26
sandsmarkit's friday13:26
saidinesh5~300-500 matches13:26
saidinesh5we can happily editDistance them13:26
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saidinesh5so this actually seems promising13:26
poolsonhey is the SDK based on eclipse?13:27
anandrkristigeli: Hi..13:28
Nicd-poolson: no, Qt Creator13:29
poolsonGOOD !13:29
poolsoni hate eclipse13:29
poolsoni only found out about sailfish 5 mins ago13:29
sandsmarkyeah, I'm pretty thankful for that as well13:29
poolsonwas looking up info on ubuntu touch .. same some multi rom thing13:29
sandsmarkI don't understand why blackberry chose eclipse...13:29
poolsonwhich in turn mentioned sailfish13:30
sandsmarkpoolson: well, the ubuntu stuff seems to be based in large parts on the sailfish stuff13:30
sandsmarklike the libhybris work13:30
poolsonsailfish goes ok on a nexus 4 ?13:30
Nicd-poolson: sailfish on different devices:
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sandsmarkseems to be pretty well-supported13:31
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tigelianandrkris: hi13:32
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anandrkrisRe Annoying pop up dialog, i had posted a possible option to implement..not sure if you had a chance to look at it..13:32
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anandrkrisi mean, the UI part...not a programmer here :-)13:33
poolsonyeah if i dont care about bluetooth13:33
poolsonwhich really ... i dont13:33
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coderusanandrkris: you can't show remorse on different (not yours) windows13:37
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coderusyou can't show orphan remorse on top of windows13:37
*** dpurgin has quit IRC13:37 mean like Android apps, for instance13:37
coderusno i dont mean like android13:38
anandrkrisokies..have faced the pop up issue mostly in Android...13:39
anandrkrisHmm sad...i thought we could retain the existing selection dialog but show it after user prompting for it through remorse timer13:39
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coderusyou cannot show remorse timer13:40
coderusbecause you have no window to show it on13:40
coderus"internet connection popup" is window, it's not just popup13:41
coderusand there are no popups in sailfishos13:41
coderusinside application ok13:41
coderusbut not global topmost things13:41
anandrkrisokies...get it13:42
coderusbut actually you can probably display transparent window nad translate touch actions to lower levels13:43
coderusit might work13:44
sandsmarkanandrkris: so basically you just want it to be smaller?13:45
anandrkrisand mostly not an intrusive one13:45
anandrkrisi should be able to ignore it...13:46
sandsmarkso, smaller :p13:46
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anandrkrishe he...currently i have to tap elsewhere for it to vanish13:47
sandsmarkimho apps that keeps trying to connect when offline should be fixed, though13:47
sandsmarkanandrkris: which apps keep pestering you for internet access?13:47
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anandrkrisSubway surfer, for instance13:47
Armadillosandsmark +113:47
sandsmarkoh, android stuff13:47
sandsmarkmaybe the android stuff just shouldn't be allowed to show it...13:48
sandsmarkor, trigger it13:48
anandrkrisi gave it to a neighbor kid and she blamed the phone for losing the game13:48
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anandrkrisand she was right...i had to put it on flight mode and gave her13:48
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anandrkrisit should at least remember be per app / session and not prompt again...13:49
sandsmarkI might not want to go online now, but I might want to go online in a bit13:50
anandrkrisright...along with mobile data, wlan, another option 'dont prompt again'13:51
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anandrkrisif user selects that then do not show..explicitly stated by user13:52
sandsmarkbut then it sounds like it could get pretty cramped13:52
* anandrkris reading it for better ideas13:53
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anandrkrisif user wants to enable network, (s)he will simply do it from settings...13:54
anandrkrisseems to be one line of thought :-)13:55
sandsmarkwell, people that like the popup (like me) obviously don't complain13:56
sandsmarkbut it could probably be improved...13:56
anandrkrisyes my first impression was that - it is helpful13:56
anandrkrisimagine a case of roaming and i want to play game while on travel13:57
sandsmarkI don't want to go into the settings just to connect to a wlan13:57
anandrkrisagree...then let a setting define that...13:57
sandsmarkI think the best would to just make it smaller, tbh.13:58
sandsmarkso it isn't very intrusive13:58
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anandrkris1. Always ask - works as now, default 2.Never ask - popup never shows up 3.Only once ask13:58
anandrkrisnopes...the problem is with frequency...13:58
Armadillobut how is "once" defined?13:59
anandrkris4. Timed (Dont prompt for x minutes)13:59
anandrkrisper application in a session...13:59
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anandrkristhe thread has lot of ideas actually...14:00
anandrkrisOnly once ask - popup shows up only when a process first time asks for internet connection.14:00
anandrkrisIf user refuses to connect the popup do not shows up for that process again.14:00
sandsmarkyeah, that makes sense14:01
Armadillosou you save a timestamp for each app request to get connection and if let_#s say 30 minutes are over (could also be configurable) the popup may popup again? :)14:01
sandsmarkI wonder were the code for this is14:01
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anandrkrisMy idea is best so far...but you need to construct a new class - remorse timer window ;-)14:03
anandrkrisJust this one window and you could retain existing functionality as-is14:04
* anandrkris Working on my persuasive and negotiation skills :-)14:04
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daithefluOMG, I've done something that actually works with C++ and QML \o/14:12
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daitheflusorry had to share14:12
kimmoligood work daitheflu :)14:13
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daithefluthanks kimmoli :)14:13
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saidinesh5sandsmark: could you test out the HunspellMatcher?14:48
saidinesh5i ve just pushed it..14:48
saidinesh5it generates the hunspell dictionaries from the current wordList14:48
sandsmarkI'll do it when I get home from work :)14:49
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saidinesh5Ah sure14:52
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saidinesh5i thiiiiiink we can improve the precision by adding a list of commonly mistaken words...14:56
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tbrStskeeps: nice18:24
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r0kk3rzso many links18:28
r0kk3rzalthough I've spotted a few that I linked here :P18:30
r0kk3rzinteresting that LG might be reviving webos further than just smarttvs18:31
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kimmolinice display-size range they will then have18:52
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Stskeepsis it awkward to link to 'competitors', or does it help understand the full landscape?18:59
r0kk3rzStskeeps: in the context of a blog post i think thats fine18:59
r0kk3rzyou guys should be keeping an eye on the movers and shakers in the mobile industry19:00
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r0kk3rzof course you're going to find some stuff you think is cool19:00
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tortoisedoc_kontio : ping19:20
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kimmoli:-1: error: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection19:28
kimmoli^that still happens with newest sdk19:28
Nokius_coderus: ?19:31
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r0kk3rzkimmoli: im sure its got to be something about the sdk not closing connections properly19:52
kimmoliit can drop connection in middle of compile19:53
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qt_junkieI was planning to update sdk today, not sure any more :)21:08
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sandsmarkkimmoli: try increasing the timeout?21:17
sandsmarkkimmoli: our launch the VM in the virtualbox ui21:17
sandsmarkand see what it does21:18
kimmoliiirc vm gets stuck, i can restart it through sdk. can't access via ssh either21:19
sandsmarkwell, try running it in the normal VBox UI, and run top or tail -f /var/log/dmesg or something21:20
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kimmolihave to check, it occurs maybe every 20th build21:22
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kimmolir0kk3rz: you might be correct. every deploy leaves 3 connections open22:03
r0kk3rzi always thought it was suspicious that it kills ssh22:04
r0kk3rzlike it hits a connection limit or something22:04
kimmolidefaul maxsessions should be 1022:06
kimmolibut it starts per-connection daemon. öm22:07
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r0kk3rzcould it be the debug connection to your jolla22:07
r0kk3rzthat its leaving open22:08
Yanielon deploy?22:08
kimmolinot using jolla here, just build+deploy as rpm22:09
kimmoliJust pasted a lot, see here
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r0kk3rzoh right, not that then22:10
kimmoliJust pasted a lot, see here
kimmoliwhen i close qtcreator, it closes only one session, session number was kinda small22:13
kimmoliyeah it opens one connection qtcreator<>vm when you start creator (vm running)22:15
kimmoliand that is closed when qtcreator closed22:15
kimmolinow if i kill that process for that connection from VM, creator says "Error connecting to "MerSDK" virtual machine: SSH conection with virtual machine "MerSDK" has been lost: 1 The remote host closed the connection"22:16
kimmolibut seems it survives that, no need to restart sdk22:16
r0kk3rzprobably reopens connection on build22:17
kimmolilets do some builds -repeatedly and see what happens22:17
r0kk3rzmight be the web ui that it was complaining about22:18
kimmoliit is on http22:19
r0kk3rzthe sailfishos menu in qtc22:19
r0kk3rzis http based from the vm22:19
kimmoliyou can access it from browser (it is a bit faster)22:19
kimmoliand on browser, the rpm-validator-select-file remembers path22:19
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kimmolii have now 35 established connections, and ps says there is 70 sshd instances running22:22
kimmoli*are (before someone corrects)22:22
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kimmoliit crashed in middle of build, before deploy22:27
kimmolicould not open new connection22:27
kimmolimy console ssh is open still22:28
kimmolijournal says Jan 09 22:27:44 SailfishSDK systemd[1]: sshd.socket: Too many incoming connections (64)22:28
kimmoliJare: kontio ^22:29
kimmoliso the bug is in C:\SailfishOS\bin\merssh.exe not closing connection22:30
r0kk3rzor not correctly reusing existing connections22:36
r0kk3rzeither way, too many connections22:37
kimmoliif [ `sudo netstat -tnpa | grep ESTABLISHED | wc -l` -gt 20 ]; then sudo killall sshd; fi22:41
kimmolii'll put that there running every 30mins22:41
r0kk3rz30min, more like 522:42
r0kk3rzit is an if after all22:42
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kimmoliyeah but just to avoid chance it to hit in middle of build22:45
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r0kk3rzyeah i suppose22:46
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kimmolihmm, they are closed from windows side22:50
r0kk3rzwindows bug?22:50
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kimmolii can see them on sdk netstat, but not on windows22:51
kimmolion windows side, they come and go during build22:51
kimmolihmm oracle virtualbox changelog for 4.3.16 NAT Network: fixed inbound half-close on Windows hosts22:52
kimmolimaybe i update virtualbox22:53
r0kk3rzi updated vbox not that long ago22:53
r0kk3rzand i still get it22:53
kimmoli(released 2014-09-09)22:54
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kimmolii have 4.3.222:54
r0kk3rzyeah i updated december sometime22:54
kimmolinewest is 4.3.2022:55
r0kk3rzsorry, 4.3.2022:55
r0kk3rzbut maybe they havent really fixed it22:55
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coderusNokius_: ?23:09
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Jarekimmoli, r0kk3rz: check, i'll mark your findings down and get back to them later on. Thanks for preliminary debugging :)23:20
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