merlin1991 | hm now that is a linking error ... | 00:01 |
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ajalkane | I understand it's missing glibc but I have no idea about what I should specify in yaml | 00:01 |
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ajalkane | Me so stupid... just understood why I wouldn't look at libiphb.yaml which specifies the dependencies | 00:03 |
ajalkane | Ah, still same error after including libiphb dependencies to PkgConfigBR | 00:07 |
ajalkane | Specifically I included glib-2.0 | 00:08 |
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ajalkane | The error says "/opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: libiphb.o: undefined reference to symbol 'clock_gettime@@GLIBC_2.4'" | 00:08 |
ajalkane | And my uneducated guess says it should be glib-2.4 version? | 00:08 |
ajalkane | But that's a no-go in the SDK with PkgConfigBR | 00:09 |
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merlin1991 | can you maybe provie what you try to build, I'm down to guessing now without playing around myself | 00:10 |
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ajalkane | yeah of course... It'll be open source. I just got a hint about including librt so I'll try that first | 00:11 |
ajalkane | (just that I haven't had setup git repo properly yet) | 00:12 |
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ajalkane | merlin1991: try this, I hope I have included all files: https://github.com/ajalkane/ringingrestorer_sailfish | 00:16 |
ajalkane | (to build it's not enough to just checkout this repo but also the submodules) | 00:18 |
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ajalkane | In theory this should do it: git clone --recursive https://github.com/ajalkane/ringingrestorer_sailfish.git | 00:19 |
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merlin1991 | ajalkane: adding "LIBS += -lrt" in daemon/daemon.pro made it build | 00:34 |
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ajalkane | merlin1991: whoa, thanks a lot! | 00:35 |
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fireglow | Hello, where can I find the current VirtualBox container for SailfishOS? ALl the links I've found 404 | 04:03 |
fireglow | (Including the one in the topic) | 04:03 |
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Yaniel | fireglow: in the sdk installer? | 09:10 |
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fireglow | Yaniel: Do you mean http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/Jolla-update10-Sailfish_SDK_Target-i486.tar.bz2 ? | 09:27 |
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fireglow | Nothing in there, and I can't find any other downloads on https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/ | 09:28 |
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coderus | fireglow: you searching for mersdk engine? | 09:50 |
coderus | need to ask someone, but everybody at Home/FOSDEM now :D | 09:51 |
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sledges | fireglow: VM is part of the SailfishOS SDK bundle | 10:08 |
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coderus | then in should be here? http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/ | 10:15 |
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sledges_fosdem | coderus: this is only one part of bundle - the target | 10:21 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | sledges_fosdem: morning | 10:21 |
sledges_fosdem | sdk installer takes care of them all to get into your build box | 10:21 |
sledges_fosdem | Nokius|jolla_: ahoy! | 10:21 |
fireglow | sledges_fosdem: where can I download the SDK installer from? | 10:23 |
Nokius|jolla_ | sledges_fosdem: is someone on duty todsy looks like sdk makes 404 on the new webpage | 10:23 |
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sledges_fosdem | about to see lbt's talk:) | 10:23 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | fireglow: is linux 64bit not okay? | 10:23 |
* sledges_fosdem looks and thanks | 10:23 | |
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Nokius|jolla_ | shared a link earlier today | 10:24 |
Stskeeps | sledges_fosdem: isn't his talk at 1:30pm? | 10:24 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | fireglow: ^ | 10:24 |
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sledges_fosdem | Nokius|jolla_: wfm | 10:24 |
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sledges_fosdem | https://sailfishos.org/develop/ | 10:24 |
Stskeeps | eee | 10:25 |
Nokius|jolla_ | Stskeeps: 13:00 ub252A | 10:25 |
Stskeeps | ok | 10:25 |
sledges_fosdem | linky otherwise? | 10:25 |
sledges_fosdem | yap | 10:25 |
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sledges_fosdem | fireglow: ^link above try | 10:26 |
Nokius|jolla_ | sledges_fosdem: works =) | 10:26 |
Nokius|jolla_ | for me | 10:26 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | sorry don't checked it =-\ | 10:26 |
SK_Sailfish_ | morning guys | 10:26 |
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sledges_fosdem | SK that was a quick intro:) | 10:27 |
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sledges_fosdem | oh ur back:) | 10:27 |
fireglow | okay, thank you :) | 10:27 |
sledges_fosdem | finally meet you IRL :D | 10:27 |
SK_Sailfish_ | sledges_fosdem: fosdem wifi ... | 10:28 |
SK_Sailfish_ | yeah, finally ! | 10:28 |
SK_Sailfish_ | will meet a lot of people I have to met irl today :) | 10:28 |
sledges_fosdem | :)) good | 10:29 |
SK_Sailfish_ | sledges_fosdem: where are you atm ? | 10:29 |
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SK_Sailfish_ | at OS stuff ? | 10:29 |
Stskeeps | kimmoli_NOT_AT_f: you still have time to jump on a plane.. :P | 10:29 |
SK_Sailfish_ | kimmoli_NOT_AT_f: :( | 10:29 |
Nokius|jolla_ | sledges_fosdem: can u check the link in the motd? plz too | 10:29 |
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SK_Sailfish_ | kimmoli: check livestream ? | 10:29 |
kimmoli | just checking have you muted nicks :) | 10:29 |
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sledges_fosdem | SK_Sailfish_: yes:D | 10:30 |
SK_Sailfish_ | sledges_fosdem: ha ? | 10:30 |
sledges_fosdem | OS | 10:31 |
Nokius|jolla_ | sledges_fosdem: heard the are broken too | 10:31 |
sledges_fosdem | yes the topic ones, is probably how fireglow got mislead, trying to fixy | 10:31 |
sledges_fosdem | thx | 10:31 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | didn`t check too my self | 10:31 |
Nokius|jolla_ | =) he said this this morning or night=-/ | 10:32 |
kimmoli | SK_Sailfish_: where i can even find them? found only news that mostly working | 10:32 |
SK_Sailfish_ | livestream.fosdem.org ? | 10:32 |
SK_Sailfish_ | plus /join #fosdem | 10:32 |
kimmoli | nope | 10:32 |
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SK_Sailfish_ | :( | 10:35 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | Stskeeps: 12:55 sorry miss read the paper | 10:38 |
stephg | kimmoli: the streams were bad last year as well I think? | 10:38 |
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kimmoli | dunno | 10:39 |
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*** sledges_fosdem changes topic to "http://www.sailfishos.org - Beta Qt5 SDK 1412 out now for linux/mac/win - MD5s: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/installers/1412/ - https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/sdk-beta-qt5-known-issues | For friendly Jolla mobile device community: #jollamobile" | 10:40 | |
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sledges_fosdem | Nokius|jolla_: done | 10:40 |
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Nokius|jolla | where is the BoF room? | 10:56 |
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Nokius|jolla | ah H3227 | 10:58 |
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tbr | Nokius|jolla: yarr, 1600 onwards | 11:01 |
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Nokius|jolla | tb | 11:01 |
Nokius|jolla | tbr: saw the time but had no idea where it is but found it =) | 11:02 |
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locusf | h3227 ok | 11:05 |
locusf | in 4h? | 11:06 |
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Nokius|jolla | locusf: yeap at 16:00 CET | 11:13 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | sledges_fosdem: from u left | ware blue shirt | 11:52 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | getting more and more lbt stagr is yours =) | 11:54 |
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kimmoli | pöh. Error: no streams found | 12:07 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | kimmoli: :( | 12:09 |
Nokius|jolla_ | =( | 12:09 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | looks.like all are death #streams | 12:13 |
Nokius|jolla_ | video guy is working | 12:14 |
Nokius|jolla_ | n the room | 12:14 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | #fosdem says streams are down | 12:17 |
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Nokius|jolla_ | locusf: are u sitting next to the Door? | 12:24 |
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r0kk3rz | there are streams? | 13:26 |
r0kk3rz | maybe i should watch some | 13:26 |
r0kk3rz | once they work | 13:26 |
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Nicd- | so where's the silica API reference online now? | 14:32 |
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r0kk3rz | Nicd-: its not | 14:35 |
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Nicd- | it's only in qt creator? | 14:35 |
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r0kk3rz | afaik | 14:38 |
r0kk3rz | for now anyway | 14:38 |
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jaacoppi | I just ordered the Jolla phone and should receive it next week. What are good up-to-date Internet resources to find out how to use it best? | 14:38 |
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Nicd- | r0kk3rz: that's stupid | 14:39 |
jaacoppi | I think I'll need to learn about available & recommended apps, tips & tricks etc | 14:39 |
Nicd- | and can't even open it in my browser since it's QCH | 14:39 |
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Yaniel | jaacoppi: log in with your jolla account at first boot and before doing anything else, upgrade to the latest sailfishos version | 14:44 |
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jaacoppi | Yaniel: you mean I should register at account.jolla.com and then update sailfishos from inside Jolla Store? | 14:49 |
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r0kk3rz | just register with the phone startup | 14:49 |
r0kk3rz | then check for updates from the system settings | 14:50 |
r0kk3rz | and dont stop updating until you get to 1.1.1.27 | 14:50 |
jaacoppi | aah okay. As you can imagine I'm anxious to get the phone now that I've decided to order it. Wouldn't want to wait. | 14:50 |
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urjaman | it propably is a single update though, atleast is for my phone (ordered like 4 months ago)... | 14:51 |
urjaman | from factory to 1.1.1.27 | 14:52 |
Yaniel | they probably updated the factory image to 1.0.2.5 once it was released | 14:52 |
urjaman | i think my foactory was 1.0.4.something ... | 14:53 |
Yaniel | even better | 14:53 |
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Yaniel | anyway the very first version you'd need to upgrade to 1.0.2.5 (iirc) first and from there to latest | 14:54 |
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jaacoppi | what are some good resources for learning about tips & tricks and app recommendations? I've seen jollausers.com but it seems low-traffic | 15:02 |
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arvut | hey | 15:02 |
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arvut | I have questions about the appsystem in my jolla, how does sailfishOS verify the apps that are being installed so that they don't contain backdoors etc? | 15:03 |
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arvut | gpg sigs or such? | 15:03 |
arvut | and what package manager is used on the cli level? | 15:04 |
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arvut | I didn't find apt, so I suppose its something else? | 15:04 |
Nicd- | arvut: it has pkcon by default, you can install zypper | 15:04 |
Nicd- | it uses rpm packages | 15:04 |
arvut | ah | 15:04 |
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Nicd- | the apps in the app store are reviewed by jolla QA, but there is no sandboxing | 15:05 |
arvut | what about compiling the packages instead? is there a way to install the packages in a way that arch and gentoo installs packages? | 15:05 |
Yaniel | make your own rpms with rpmbuild | 15:06 |
Yaniel | there is even a web service dedicated to that, the mer OBS | 15:06 |
Yaniel | http://build.merproject.org | 15:06 |
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mgrover | hello, is it possible to deploy a QWidget to a Sailfish device and have it conform to orientation? | 15:20 |
mgrover | if not, how would I repurpose the QWidget to a QML equivelent? | 15:20 |
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r0kk3rz | no widgets | 15:22 |
r0kk3rz | you'd have to write a qml object | 15:22 |
mgrover | hmmm how would I do that? | 15:24 |
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mgrover | a function expects a arguement, lets say QObject, I want to give it a subclass called MartinsObject, but no matter how I cast it no luck | 15:41 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: qobject_cast | 15:46 |
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mgrover_ | thank you | 15:47 |
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mgrover_ | another question, I have a QWidget subclass, how terrible is it going to be if I just change it to subclass QQuickItem(need rotation) | 15:52 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | mgrover_: will be bad | 15:58 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | mgrover_: what do you do on your QWidget ? | 15:58 |
mgrover_ | are you familiar with libvncserver? | 15:59 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | mgrover_: no | 16:02 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | trying to port it ? | 16:02 |
mgrover_ | basically I want to display a remote frame buffer, am trying to port PresenceVNC | 16:02 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 16:03 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | the drawing for the remote fb is done on QWidget ? | 16:03 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I guess you need to use QQuickPaintedItem | 16:03 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | or item | 16:03 |
mgrover_ | i am indeed using QQuickItem | 16:03 |
mgrover_ | currently everything subclasses QWidget | 16:03 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | QQuickItem (if you understand the scene graph) | 16:04 |
mgrover_ | I don't but I've played around with adding items to a scene and it seems simple enough | 16:05 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | item to the scene graph ? | 16:05 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I don't know how it works at all ... | 16:05 |
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mgrover_ | No, not at all lol | 16:05 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | good luck with this though | 16:06 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it is not easy | 16:06 |
mgrover_ | am currently just ripping out code till i have a basic view | 16:07 |
mgrover_ | maybe just easier for a fresh write | 16:08 |
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mgrover | i should of just used this for my final year project lol | 16:10 |
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ikarus | shame that there is no possibility for harbour apps to use .services files appaerently | 16:20 |
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coderus | ikarus: because of security problems | 17:30 |
coderus | it won't be allowed before some system credentials management doesnt exists | 17:31 |
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ikarus | coderus: not even on the user dbus ? I guess, it shouldn't be too difficult to improve the security of it | 17:43 |
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coderus | ikarus: you can't use services | 18:44 |
coderus | you can only use dbus with no service, only when app is running | 18:45 |
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r0kk3rz | one of the many restrictions | 18:50 |
r0kk3rz | however nothing stopping you from building it and hosting it elsewhere | 18:50 |
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ikarus | sure, sure | 18:58 |
ikarus | but in the comment for the don't they do mention that they are looking at it | 18:58 |
ikarus | which seems to hold promise | 18:58 |
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ikarus | (I'll probably supply two builds, one for harbour and one that does use services to provide background processing, etc) | 19:00 |
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kimmoli | datakurre: i just got letoh daemon up and running | 19:26 |
datakurre | kimmoli: Great :) I hope, you don't mind, if I do my own daemon. I just got python-dbus-bindings up and running and will refactor pyLeTOH to be daemon based ;) (So that app will justdbus-message with daemon) | 19:28 |
kimmoli | np, i don't mind at all :) | 19:28 |
datakurre | kimmoli: QML-bindings were no good for eavesdropping :( | 19:29 |
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datakurre | Otherwise they were so easy that it was too good to be true ;) | 19:31 |
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kimmoli | made a simple scipt for blinks | 19:33 |
r0kk3rz | blinkenlights! | 19:35 |
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Yaniel | blinkenlichten | 19:36 |
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ohjusvene | . | 21:08 |
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cvp_ | have someone all photos from the Updates ? | 21:11 |
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