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coderus | i think no :D | 00:03 |
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CardenalJimenez | hi | 00:25 |
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klopsi-u3 | hi CardenalJimenez | 00:49 |
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kimmoli | coderus: qtsensors are allowed in harbour | 06:11 |
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Nicd- | coderus: what? | 06:32 |
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Nicd- | coderus: I said neither one of 2.0 and 2.1 works | 06:37 |
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Armadillo | nazanin ping | 06:54 |
Armadillo | how to clear the store client/package cache under 1.0.8.19? | 06:58 |
Armadillo | I think the Sailfish utilities app is not available there right? | 06:59 |
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kimmoli | if it is not, this is how it does it... https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-utilities/blob/master/tools/repair_rpm_db.sh | 07:13 |
Armadillo | hm good hint | 07:15 |
Armadillo | debugging issues via the store comments is a real pain in the ass -.- | 07:15 |
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kimmoli | giucam: i think that did broke camera shutter from volumr keys. .. | 07:50 |
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giucam | kimmoli: oh, nice feature. i didn't know that was a thing :D | 07:52 |
giucam | i'll have a look at it | 07:52 |
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nazanin | Armadillo: pong, probably kontio or xfade_ know. ask them :) | 08:23 |
Armadillo | xfade_ ping, any guess how to clear package cache on 1.0.8.19? :) | 08:26 |
Armadillo | the problem is, that a user discovered problems with the latest versions of my app. so nazanin and the store guys added a version limit to the latest versions of the app | 08:27 |
Armadillo | the user now gets displayed version 1.1.5 on the store instead of 1.2.X which is correct. BUT if he reinstalls the app, it installs 1.2.1 | 08:28 |
Armadillo | so for me it seems the package cache is the problem | 08:28 |
Armadillo | is this correct? | 08:28 |
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giucam | kankerneuken: yeah, i can see why that doesn't work | 08:58 |
giucam | oops, kimmoli ↑ | 08:58 |
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nazanin | Armadillo: let me discuss that with the crew. | 09:11 |
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kimmoli | giucam: ok | 09:21 |
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giucam | well, not really, because i'm not sure how to go with it | 09:22 |
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kimmoli | just ack'ing the oops then | 09:27 |
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nazanin | Armadillo: the multi-versioning should work now :) | 10:07 |
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pketolai | Armadillo: there was a slight misconfiguration on the store backend side, that is now fixed. If it still does not work, then it's the cache | 10:11 |
Armadillo | pketolai nazanin thank you both for invetigating! =) | 10:12 |
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kimmoli | giucam: (or was it faenil ) additionally, i tested the enable-compose of evdevkeyboard, and i got some new things - need to dig deeper though. but removing qtkey from lipstick seems to broke this too | 10:28 |
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Armadillo | yay | 10:48 |
Armadillo | update 11 | 10:48 |
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Olpe | are there any patches that should be disabled/uninstalled before installing update 11? | 10:56 |
SfietKonstantinW | Olpe: don't think so | 10:57 |
SfietKonstantinW | it should not be a problem | 10:57 |
Olpe | ok. Cool | 10:58 |
Olpe | what about the browser? if I have installed nightly-build from openrepos? | 10:58 |
SfietKonstantinW | Olpe: better revert it to the origianl one | 10:59 |
Olpe | Ok. thanks SfietKonstantinW | 11:00 |
Olpe | Fatal error: pattern:jolla-configuration-sbj-0.8.20.1-10.35.5.jolla.noarch requires pattern:jolla-sailfish-applications, but this requirement cannot be provided | 11:05 |
Olpe | tried: pkcon remove xulrunner-qt5 | 11:05 |
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Juuba | omg, btrfs sdcard is broken? | 11:17 |
Juuba | in 1.1.2+ ? | 11:17 |
Juuba | what does this mean : broken in >1.1.2, I will update as soon as I find out how to mount again - for now you need to stop aliendalvik.service & .path and make sure that it is defused then start androidsdcard.service or .mount | 11:18 |
Olpe | ok. now I got it uninstalled... | 11:21 |
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Juuba | chem|st: ping? what to do when updating 1.1.2.15 with btrfs sdcard | 11:33 |
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wickwire | hi guys, I've been reading the Sailfish Silica 1.0 documentation in the IDE but couldn't find the following: how may I close an app from a press of a button...? | 11:59 |
wickwire | i.e. not going to cover mode, but rather close the app directly | 11:59 |
j-doge | wickwire: In Settings/System/Shortcuts, enable 'Enable swipe closing', after that you can swipe from the top to close apps or lock the screen (if no app on foreground) | 12:01 |
merlin1991 | exit(0) ? | 12:01 |
j-doge | wickwire: if that was what you were asking :P | 12:01 |
j-doge | (I didn't look what channel I was in) | 12:01 |
wickwire | j-doge: thanks for the tip - but I'd like to handle that regardless of each user configuration | 12:02 |
wickwire | merlin1991: exit(0) a suggestion for my question? | 12:02 |
corne | h1~ | 12:03 |
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merlin1991 | wickwire: yeah, since you're on the dev channel, user diacussion is in #jollamobile | 12:05 |
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wickwire | merlin1991: right but this is a development issue, so hopefully I'm in the right place | 12:06 |
wickwire | basically I'm making a game on jolla | 12:06 |
wickwire | and would like to have a "quit" button | 12:06 |
wickwire | if that makes any sense | 12:06 |
wickwire | I do have silica in there and hoped I could create a simple "shutdown" button > when pressed, the app would simply close | 12:07 |
wickwire | rather that go to cover | 12:07 |
wickwire | I'll try your suggestion | 12:07 |
tadzik | I don't think I'll use a quit button in a jolla app, when I could just use the gesture as I always do | 12:09 |
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merlin1991 | Also theres's QApplication::quit() | 12:09 |
merlin1991 | That should shut down the qt eventloop better | 12:10 |
wickwire | thanks for all the input, I'll try to make it work with the most jolla compatible solution | 12:10 |
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Olpe | damn... mazelock and eventsview control center patches are not working on update11 :( | 12:22 |
Acce | wickwire: also Qt.quit() in qml should work | 12:24 |
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tadzik | Olpe: it usually takes a few days for all the patches to catch up | 12:26 |
merlin1991 | Don't you have to wire the view quit signal then? | 12:26 |
Olpe | tadzik: yeah. ofc. Just makes the phone so much harder to use... Hope coderus can fix them soon... | 12:28 |
Acce | merlin1991: it's wired by libsailfishapp afaik, if you don't use it then you need to do it by yourself. Not sure what else you'd need to do then also | 12:32 |
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chem|st | Juuba: you need to let aliendalvik start, then stop it (defused mounts!!) and then mount sdcard subvolume to /data/media | 12:48 |
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cos- | ok does the new upgrade work? | 12:49 |
Juuba | chem|st: ok, so.. defused mounts, means what? | 12:49 |
chem|st | Juuba: no way of automation now as the new optification makes it impossible for now | 12:49 |
Juuba | be sure that the mountings are gone? | 12:49 |
Juuba | chem|st: hmm | 12:49 |
chem|st | Juuba: yes be sure that the fusemounts are unmounted when you mount | 12:49 |
Juuba | so it would be wise to reformat FAT? | 12:49 |
Juuba | and this is required to be done after every boot? | 12:50 |
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chem|st | yes after every boot, and it has nothing to do with the sdcard, it is the way how alien is started now | 12:52 |
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Juuba | meh :( | 12:52 |
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chem|st | what I might do is split the actual starting of aliendalvik which has the fusemounting into a new service after aliendalvik.service so I can hook the .mount after aliendalvik.service and before aliendalvikstarter.service | 12:53 |
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anandrkris | Hi Aard | 13:09 |
anandrkris | Query on U11 - transferengine-plugins > Fix content height of Twitter image sharing. | 13:09 |
anandrkris | is same as https://together.jolla.com/question/59905/ui-bug-keyboard-covers-text-field-when-composing-a-new-tweet-in-the-gallery/ | 13:10 |
anandrkris | ? | 13:10 |
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faenil | anandrkris: yeah I think it's fixed | 13:50 |
faenil | I don't have that bug on u11 | 13:51 |
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anandrkris | faenil: cool, posted an answer on U11 announcement with links of possible fixes based on details given | 13:52 |
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hackhane | hey everyone | 13:53 |
anandrkris | btw, can i update Jolla account now for early access and get the update? | 13:53 |
hackhane | does anyone know about sailfish os on i9300 ? | 13:53 |
xfade_ | anandrkris: yes | 13:53 |
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anandrkris | xfade_: coo..thanks | 13:53 |
anandrkris | *cool | 13:53 |
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coderus | kimmoli: oh really, QtSensors QML import allowed in harbour? :) | 13:56 |
kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/snowflake/blob/master/qml/pages/Snowflake.qml#L3 | 13:57 |
kimmoli | and this is in store | 13:57 |
kimmoli | feedback isn't | 13:57 |
coderus | awesome then! :D | 13:58 |
hackhane | yo thx | 13:58 |
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kimmoli | coderus: it has been approved alreadu Dec 2013 | 14:01 |
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coderus | oh, early access update released while i slept :D | 14:21 |
flux | coderus, lessons learned? sleep more. | 14:21 |
SfietKonstantinW | flux: or don't sleep at all | 14:25 |
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anandrkris | Hi Folks - Am taking the liberty to share a story of my friend who fought with cancer and recovered... | 14:33 |
anandrkris | After all we have had lot of OT discussions earlier ;) | 14:33 |
anandrkris | http://vaidehivc.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/my-fight-against-dreadful-disease-cancer.html | 14:33 |
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anandrkris | Now i know why M$ called Linux a cancer - it is $h1t scary for them :P | 14:35 |
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kimmoli | giucam: that lipstick build also broke url links (from other apps) - not opening browser anymore. Restored stock lipstick, now camera and urllinks works again. | 14:56 |
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louisdk | If I choose to opt in and install update 11 should I first uninstall sailfish browser nightly installed from https://openrepos.net/content/sailfishbrowsernightly/sailfish-browser-nightly? | 16:41 |
coderus | louisdk: no, it will be upgraded automatically | 16:42 |
coderus | louisdk: initially you should not do any additional actions unless it's written somewhere to do so | 16:42 |
louisdk | coderus, ok cool. Just wanted to make sure as u11 is not released for everybody yet and the night browser is 3rd part sw. | 16:45 |
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coderus | louisdk: u11 browser and engine have higher versions than mine :) | 17:02 |
coderus | so no problems here | 17:02 |
louisdk | coderus, cool :) | 17:02 |
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coderus | chem|st: ping | 17:16 |
coderus | chem|st: sdcard mount works for me in 1.1.2.15: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310853 | 17:17 |
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chem|st | coderus: now check against $home/android_sdcard | 17:18 |
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chem|st | ehrm android_storage | 17:18 |
chem|st | the mount works but the fuse does not | 17:18 |
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chem|st | optification happens after the mount and it needs to happen before the mount | 17:20 |
coderus | android_storage shohuld care? | 17:20 |
coderus | it doesn't matter if it points to real /data/media | 17:20 |
chem|st | yes that is the folder used by android | 17:21 |
coderus | since everything in /data/media point to sdcard | 17:21 |
chem|st | but it uses /opt/alien/data/media and not /data/media | 17:21 |
coderus | ah sure, opened android terminal and /data/media points to different location | 17:22 |
chem|st | /opt/alien/data/media is pointing to the internal /data/media/ | 17:22 |
chem|st | not to your mounted sdcard | 17:23 |
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chem|st | as optification does not take mounted volumes with it | 17:23 |
coderus | chem|st: you know what in u11 /opr/alien is runnin inside chroot, right? | 17:23 |
coderus | /opt/alient* | 17:23 |
coderus | /opt/alien** | 17:23 |
chem|st | but if you mount after optification you mount to opt too | 17:23 |
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chem|st | you need to alter the alien.sh to have it work automatically again | 17:24 |
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chem|st | and that is something I do not trust $user to touch | 17:25 |
chem|st | it is only the last line that is starting aliendalvik after optification that should go somewhere (.service) later so we can mount to the chroot in between | 17:26 |
chem|st | or do you have another idea? one could be to have it autostart, stop aliendalvik, mount sdcard, start aliendalvik | 17:27 |
coderus | what about this? https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/?answer=46430#post-id-46430 | 17:29 |
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chem|st | that is just another way of using systemd to mount the volume, I will update to that as soon as I found a proper way to do it | 17:39 |
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chem|st | coderus: the script starting aliendalvik has both, the trigger for optification and the trigger for fusemounting in it... and we need to mount in between those - that is the problem | 17:41 |
chem|st | I don't want to stop aliendalvik mount and start it again, but that seems the only way atm | 17:42 |
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Linnak | hi, does someone know if hungarian language available already on jolla? | 18:01 |
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coderus | SfietKonstantinW: ping | 18:56 |
coderus | you really need to add option to force unapplying patch ignoring all errors | 18:56 |
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anYc | there is no new SDK for u11, is this correct? | 19:31 |
j-doge | nothing out yet | 19:32 |
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chem|st | anYc: Id guess a week after release | 19:34 |
chem|st | and not RC release | 19:35 |
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coderus | anYc: i don't think there some changed in SDK | 19:56 |
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CardenalJimenez | hi | 20:02 |
CardenalJimenez | hey r0kk3rz | 20:02 |
CardenalJimenez | r0kk3rz : what's your LOGONSERVER var value? | 20:03 |
r0kk3rz | CardenalJimenez: my pc name | 20:04 |
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CardenalJimenez | an you're using Win 81. right? | 20:05 |
r0kk3rz | yeah | 20:05 |
CardenalJimenez | *8.1 | 20:05 |
CardenalJimenez | good | 20:05 |
CardenalJimenez | I now know why it does not work on mine | 20:05 |
CardenalJimenez | what's your user account type? | 20:05 |
r0kk3rz | offline | 20:05 |
CardenalJimenez | that's it | 20:06 |
r0kk3rz | didnt want no shitty live account bollocks | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | mine is Microsoft account | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | so logon server is not local computer | 20:06 |
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r0kk3rz | and that matters? | 20:06 |
anYc | chem|st: coderus thanks! | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | yep | 20:06 |
r0kk3rz | wooow | 20:06 |
r0kk3rz | good job microsoft | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | I tried with a test local account | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | worked | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | Microsoft account | 20:06 |
CardenalJimenez | Qt IDE goes berserk | 20:07 |
CardenalJimenez | cannot find local folders | 20:07 |
r0kk3rz | well there you go | 20:07 |
CardenalJimenez | event when properly configured | 20:07 |
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CardenalJimenez | I was going insane | 20:07 |
r0kk3rz | yet another reason to not have a windows online account | 20:07 |
CardenalJimenez | well more than I'm already :) | 20:07 |
CardenalJimenez | yeah | 20:07 |
CardenalJimenez | I did not know that when I logged on for the first time | 20:07 |
* CardenalJimenez Fuck you Microsoft! | 20:08 | |
r0kk3rz | yeah it doesnt give you an option using OOB setup | 20:08 |
r0kk3rz | you have to make a new account, then nuke your old one | 20:08 |
CardenalJimenez | I'm going to take a break - I'm exhausted | 20:08 |
r0kk3rz | hah | 20:08 |
CardenalJimenez | at least I know what was the issue | 20:08 |
r0kk3rz | but you've only just got started! | 20:08 |
r0kk3rz | now you can make apps | 20:09 |
CardenalJimenez | I'll let know the guys at Jolla | 20:09 |
CardenalJimenez | YES! | 20:09 |
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CardenalJimenez | But I don't want to nuke my current account | 20:09 |
CardenalJimenez | Soooo | 20:09 |
r0kk3rz | worth a TJC post i think | 20:09 |
CardenalJimenez | Yep | 20:09 |
CardenalJimenez | sure | 20:09 |
r0kk3rz | sdk works, but only with local account and home var set | 20:09 |
CardenalJimenez | doesn't need home var | 20:10 |
CardenalJimenez | :)) another great finding | 20:10 |
r0kk3rz | sure? | 20:10 |
CardenalJimenez | yes | 20:10 |
CardenalJimenez | I'm going to make a VirtualBox VM | 20:10 |
CardenalJimenez | with Windows in it | 20:10 |
CardenalJimenez | AND a fucking LOCAL MS account | 20:10 |
r0kk3rz | windows all the way down? | 20:11 |
CardenalJimenez | could use Linux | 20:11 |
CardenalJimenez | But | 20:11 |
CardenalJimenez | I want to give a try to Win10 Technical PREVIEW - TADA! | 20:11 |
kimmoli | :) .. but where you install mersdk vm? vm in vm is not going to work | 20:11 |
r0kk3rz | vm in a vm in a vm in a vm | 20:11 |
CardenalJimenez | See if I can find a case I can make SDK install fail again :))) | 20:12 |
CardenalJimenez | kimmoli: damn it ! | 20:12 |
r0kk3rz | if you use a linux vm you can run the mersdk in a chroot | 20:12 |
r0kk3rz | instead of vm | 20:12 |
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CardenalJimenez | you're sure mersdk vm in a Win10 vm is not going to work? | 20:13 |
CardenalJimenez | that was so meta-entangled - classy and inceptive. I feld like Leo DiCaprio for a minute. | 20:14 |
Acce | vm in a vm works if I remember correctly. but... the performance is horrible | 20:14 |
CardenalJimenez | yeah, agreed - that was just for the fun anyway - don't think Win10 Preview was worth it anyway | 20:14 |
CardenalJimenez | so linux vm + chroot it is | 20:15 |
CardenalJimenez | damn | 20:15 |
CardenalJimenez | this sdk on Win8 really melt my brain | 20:15 |
Acce | how about you make a USB bootable linux with the SDK in it :) if you want / need to keep windows | 20:15 |
r0kk3rz | been meaning to set up the sdk in my fedora vm like that | 20:15 |
Acce | then you could boot into your dev environment, fewer distractions too | 20:15 |
r0kk3rz | running vbox full screen works too | 20:16 |
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r0kk3rz | although i think i need to switch DE on fedora | 20:16 |
r0kk3rz | gnome3 is a little bit sparse... | 20:17 |
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CardenalJimenez | Acce: Linux vm - coz I want SDK on my personal laptop, which is Windows and that laptop is very light. | 20:20 |
CardenalJimenez | that was fun | 20:20 |
CardenalJimenez | sort of... | 20:20 |
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Nokius | great work Jolla! | 20:50 |
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louisdk | This is strange. I've installed sudo from NielDK, added nemo to the wheel group and uncommented %wheel in visudo, but when I run sudo something as nano, it asks for passwd and then says Iøm not in the sudoers file. | 20:54 |
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Acce | sudo from mer-tools repo works for me | 20:57 |
chem|st | I did not get the need for sudo at all... maybe very limited sudo where sudoers are allowed to do none mission critical things... but on a device with one user... | 20:59 |
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Acce | it's nice to read logs without always writing the password with the clumsy vkbd | 21:01 |
louisdk | Well. A reboot helped. | 21:02 |
Acce | don't use it for anything else, though | 21:02 |
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louisdk | chem|st, so do you use sudo with NOPASSWD or? | 21:02 |
louisdk | I've just used it to change hostname and reinstall sailfish-browser | 21:03 |
louisdk | I like to use sudo. I'm more aware of when I do something as root because I need to type sudo in front of every command. | 21:06 |
Nokius | is there a label for tjc if we find bugs in SFOS preview | 21:06 |
Acce | bug | 21:06 |
Acce | oh | 21:06 |
chem|st | louisdk: the point is, on a single user machine with noone else than me sudo is if I do not want to be logged in as root and run something... or if I have a script run as user but one line needs root so I sudo that, with password | 21:07 |
Acce | maybe just the name of the latest lake? | 21:07 |
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chem|st | on any ubuntu I see I open a terminal "sudo su" and upload my ssh key... | 21:09 |
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Acce | lol | 21:09 |
chem|st | Nokius: "bug" | 21:10 |
Nokius | okay :) | 21:10 |
chem|st | :) | 21:10 |
Nokius | if I open a new question its already there ;) | 21:10 |
Nokius | btw. closed a BUG on tjc :D | 21:11 |
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raa700 | wut | 21:14 |
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Nokius | ah not a BUG its a feature :-/ | 21:22 |
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coderus | Powermenu 2 - fancy menu and configuration for power key actions for #SailfishOS. | 21:32 |
coderus | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/powermenu-2 | 21:32 |
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Nokius | o/ | 21:41 |
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faenil | Nokius: o/ | 21:42 |
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Nokius | faenil: hope your job search is in good stage | 21:47 |
faenil | Nokius: it is, thanks ;) | 21:48 |
Nokius | :) | 21:48 |
faenil | I can't complain, quite good offers so far :) | 21:48 |
tigeli | i feel old :d | 21:49 |
Nokius | faenil: that sounds good | 21:49 |
faenil | yeah :) | 21:50 |
Nokius | not sure if I like the weather application idea is superb but the forecast bar is over lapping to often the main view | 21:51 |
faenil | mm? | 21:52 |
Nokius | or the Jolla screen is to small :D | 21:53 |
Acce | overlapping how? | 21:54 |
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Nokius | one monent video is uloading soon | 21:56 |
Nokius | uploading | 21:56 |
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chem|st | Nokius: you mean the bottom line... that is because teh design forces the logo there... | 22:05 |
Nokius | https://nokius.net/stuff/IMG_0077.MOV | 22:05 |
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chem|st | oh longer entries too... | 22:06 |
Nokius | yeap may if the bar show only the date and if you swipe it up it shows the forecast? | 22:06 |
Nokius | yeah looks really .... | 22:06 |
Nokius | open on tjc? | 22:06 |
chem|st | the margins are too wide, you may loose 3-4mm by reducing those alone | 22:07 |
chem|st | Nokius: if there is none do | 22:07 |
Acce | hmm I see | 22:08 |
Acce | still, I prefer to see the forecast | 22:09 |
Nokius | me too :D but the flick is :( | 22:09 |
Acce | side panel from right wouldn't be bad | 22:09 |
Acce | for the forecast | 22:09 |
Nokius | to swipe up the forecast is also nice | 22:10 |
Acce | but I guess side panels are not really in the scope of Jolla's UI principles | 22:10 |
chem|st | maybe add that the date is pretty unneccessary and the station too, could be both somewhere else or the useless "this is a forecast" "this is today" below the city name be repaced | 22:11 |
chem|st | replaced | 22:11 |
Acce | yeah, personally the small view in events should use the space better | 22:11 |
Acce | now the location text takes over half of it | 22:11 |
Acce | although it probably stays same almost always, so not very relevant to see "hmm ok I'm still in this place" | 22:12 |
chem|st | it is the primary location you set so as long as there is no GPS based weather... | 22:14 |
Acce | yeah | 22:15 |
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Acce | shouldn't be too hard to remember which one you set it to | 22:16 |
Acce | I'd rather see the probability for rain or something there, and wind.. | 22:16 |
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Nokius | https://together.jolla.com/question/82280/bug-weather-appliaction-flickable-details/ | 22:17 |
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cvp_ | Nokius, +1 vote | 22:19 |
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Nokius | cvp_: https://together.jolla.com/question/82261/bug-weather-ui-events-view-confusing/ ;) take look heare to | 22:21 |
M4rtinK | I think that we need a Doge Weather app :) | 22:21 |
M4rtinK | http://dogeweather.com/ | 22:21 |
ejjoman | :D | 22:21 |
Nokius | :D | 22:22 |
cvp_ | Nokius, aaaand +1 :D | 22:22 |
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Nokius | coderus: where to vote!!! | 22:36 |
coderus | Nokius: in tmo of course | 22:36 |
Nokius | for the meecast integration? | 22:36 |
chem|st | coderus: hijacking, really? | 22:38 |
Nokius | .-/ | 22:39 |
coderus | chem|st: haha, you everywhere :D | 22:39 |
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coderus | chem|st: feel free to remove it, we will create foreca replacement anyway! you can't stop us! | 22:40 |
chem|st | coderus: I am more about that you hijack someones post not that you want to make alternatives! | 22:41 |
Nokius | I had the same idea to replace the FORECA data | 22:42 |
Nokius | nn | 22:46 |
M4rtinK | Doge Weather! :) | 22:47 |
Nokius | :D | 22:47 |
coderus | chem|st: just use your admin privileges and remove my answer :) | 22:48 |
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Nokius | oh an other bug | 22:53 |
Nokius | why to the hack are the pictures zoomed in the gallery cover HOW like to see pixel | 22:54 |
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Nokius | but nice to the how the cover handles svg and transparent png files :D | 22:55 |
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chem|st | coderus: do you start an own thread? | 23:04 |
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coderus | chem|st: no | 23:19 |
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