Thursday, 2015-02-19

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coderusi think no :D00:03
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klopsi-u3hi CardenalJimenez00:49
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kimmolicoderus: qtsensors are allowed in harbour06:11
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Nicd-coderus: what?06:32
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Nicd-coderus: I said neither one of 2.0 and 2.1 works06:37
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Armadillonazanin ping06:54
Armadillohow to clear the store client/package cache under 1.0.8.19?06:58
ArmadilloI think the Sailfish utilities app is not available there right?06:59
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kimmoliif it is not, this is how it does it... https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-utilities/blob/master/tools/repair_rpm_db.sh07:13
Armadillohm good hint07:15
Armadillodebugging issues via the store comments is a real pain in the ass -.-07:15
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kimmoligiucam: i think that did broke camera shutter from volumr keys. ..07:50
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giucamkimmoli: oh, nice feature. i didn't know that was a thing :D07:52
giucami'll have a look at it07:52
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nazaninArmadillo: pong, probably kontio or xfade_ know. ask them :)08:23
Armadilloxfade_ ping, any guess how to clear package cache on 1.0.8.19? :)08:26
Armadillothe problem is, that a user discovered problems with the latest versions of my app. so nazanin and the store guys added a version limit to the latest versions of the app08:27
Armadillothe user now gets displayed version 1.1.5 on the store instead of 1.2.X which is correct. BUT if he reinstalls the app, it installs 1.2.108:28
Armadilloso for me it seems the package cache is the problem08:28
Armadillois this correct?08:28
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giucamkankerneuken: yeah, i can see why that doesn't work08:58
giucamoops, kimmoli ↑08:58
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nazaninArmadillo: let me discuss that with the crew.09:11
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kimmoligiucam: ok09:21
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giucamwell, not really, because i'm not sure how to go with it09:22
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kimmolijust ack'ing the oops then09:27
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nazaninArmadillo: the multi-versioning should work now :)10:07
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pketolaiArmadillo: there was a slight misconfiguration on the store backend side, that is now fixed. If it still does not work, then it's the cache10:11
Armadillopketolai nazanin thank you both for invetigating! =)10:12
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kimmoligiucam: (or was it faenil ) additionally, i tested the enable-compose of evdevkeyboard, and i got some new things - need to dig deeper though. but removing qtkey from lipstick seems to broke this too10:28
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Armadilloyay10:48
Armadilloupdate 1110:48
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Olpeare there any patches that should be disabled/uninstalled before installing update 11?10:56
SfietKonstantinWOlpe: don't think so10:57
SfietKonstantinWit should not be a problem10:57
Olpeok. Cool10:58
Olpewhat about the browser? if I have installed nightly-build from openrepos?10:58
SfietKonstantinWOlpe: better revert it to the origianl one10:59
OlpeOk. thanks SfietKonstantinW11:00
OlpeFatal error: pattern:jolla-configuration-sbj-0.8.20.1-10.35.5.jolla.noarch requires pattern:jolla-sailfish-applications, but this requirement cannot be provided11:05
Olpetried: pkcon remove xulrunner-qt511:05
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Juubaomg, btrfs sdcard is broken?11:17
Juubain 1.1.2+ ?11:17
Juubawhat does this mean :    broken in >1.1.2, I will update as soon as I find out how to mount again - for now you need to stop aliendalvik.service & .path and make sure that it is defused then start androidsdcard.service or .mount11:18
Olpeok. now I got it uninstalled...11:21
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Juubachem|st: ping? what to do when updating 1.1.2.15 with btrfs sdcard11:33
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wickwirehi guys, I've been reading the Sailfish Silica 1.0 documentation in the IDE but couldn't find the following: how may I close an app from a press of a button...?11:59
wickwirei.e. not going to cover mode, but rather close the app directly11:59
j-dogewickwire: In Settings/System/Shortcuts, enable 'Enable swipe closing', after that you  can swipe from the top to close apps or lock the screen (if no app on foreground)12:01
merlin1991exit(0) ?12:01
j-dogewickwire: if that was what you were asking :P12:01
j-doge(I didn't look what channel I was in)12:01
wickwirej-doge: thanks for the tip - but I'd like to handle that regardless of each user configuration12:02
wickwiremerlin1991: exit(0) a suggestion for my question?12:02
corneh1~12:03
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merlin1991wickwire: yeah, since you're on the dev channel, user diacussion is in #jollamobile12:05
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wickwiremerlin1991: right but this is a development issue, so hopefully I'm in the right place12:06
wickwirebasically I'm making a game on jolla12:06
wickwireand would like to have a "quit" button12:06
wickwireif that makes any sense12:06
wickwireI do have silica in there and hoped I could create a simple "shutdown" button > when pressed, the app would simply close12:07
wickwirerather that go to cover12:07
wickwireI'll try your suggestion12:07
tadzikI don't think I'll use a quit button in a jolla app, when I could just use the gesture as I always do12:09
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merlin1991Also theres's QApplication::quit()12:09
merlin1991That should shut down the qt eventloop better12:10
wickwirethanks for all the input, I'll try to make it work with the most jolla compatible solution12:10
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Olpedamn... mazelock and eventsview control center patches are not working on update11 :(12:22
Accewickwire: also Qt.quit() in qml should work12:24
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tadzikOlpe: it usually takes a few days for all the patches to catch up12:26
merlin1991Don't you have to wire the view quit signal then?12:26
Olpetadzik: yeah. ofc. Just makes the phone so much harder to use... Hope coderus can fix them soon...12:28
Accemerlin1991: it's wired by libsailfishapp afaik, if you don't use it then you need to do it by yourself. Not sure what else you'd need to do then also12:32
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chem|stJuuba: you need to let aliendalvik start, then stop it (defused mounts!!) and then mount sdcard subvolume to /data/media12:48
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cos-ok does the new upgrade work?12:49
Juubachem|st: ok, so.. defused mounts, means what?12:49
chem|stJuuba: no way of automation now as the new optification makes it impossible for now12:49
Juubabe sure that the mountings are gone?12:49
Juubachem|st: hmm12:49
chem|stJuuba: yes be sure that the fusemounts are unmounted when you mount12:49
Juubaso it would be wise to reformat FAT?12:49
Juubaand this is required to be done after every boot?12:50
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chem|styes after every boot, and it has nothing to do with the sdcard, it is the way how alien is started now12:52
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Juubameh :(12:52
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chem|stwhat I might do is split the actual starting of aliendalvik which has the fusemounting into a new service after aliendalvik.service so I can hook the .mount after aliendalvik.service and before aliendalvikstarter.service12:53
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anandrkrisHi Aard13:09
anandrkrisQuery on U11 - transferengine-plugins > Fix content height of Twitter image sharing.13:09
anandrkrisis same as https://together.jolla.com/question/59905/ui-bug-keyboard-covers-text-field-when-composing-a-new-tweet-in-the-gallery/13:10
anandrkris?13:10
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faenilanandrkris: yeah I think it's fixed13:50
faenilI don't have that bug on u1113:51
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anandrkrisfaenil: cool, posted an answer on U11 announcement with links of possible fixes based on details given13:52
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hackhanehey everyone13:53
anandrkrisbtw, can i update Jolla account now for early access and get the update?13:53
hackhanedoes anyone know about sailfish os on i9300 ?13:53
xfade_anandrkris: yes13:53
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anandrkrisxfade_: coo..thanks13:53
anandrkris*cool13:53
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coderuskimmoli: oh really, QtSensors QML import allowed in harbour? :)13:56
kimmolihttps://github.com/kimmoli/snowflake/blob/master/qml/pages/Snowflake.qml#L313:57
kimmoliand this is in store13:57
kimmolifeedback isn't13:57
coderusawesome then! :D13:58
hackhaneyo thx13:58
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kimmolicoderus: it has been approved alreadu Dec 201314:01
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coderusoh, early access update released while i slept :D14:21
fluxcoderus, lessons learned? sleep more.14:21
SfietKonstantinWflux: or don't sleep at all14:25
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anandrkrisHi Folks - Am taking the liberty to share a story of my friend who fought with cancer and recovered...14:33
anandrkrisAfter all we have had lot of OT discussions earlier ;)14:33
anandrkrishttp://vaidehivc.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/my-fight-against-dreadful-disease-cancer.html14:33
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anandrkrisNow i know why M$ called Linux a cancer - it is $h1t scary for them :P14:35
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kimmoligiucam: that lipstick build also broke url links (from other apps) - not opening browser anymore. Restored stock lipstick, now camera and urllinks works again.14:56
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louisdkIf I choose to opt in and install update 11 should I first uninstall sailfish browser nightly installed from https://openrepos.net/content/sailfishbrowsernightly/sailfish-browser-nightly?16:41
coderuslouisdk: no, it will be upgraded automatically16:42
coderuslouisdk: initially you should not do any additional actions unless it's written somewhere to do so16:42
louisdkcoderus, ok cool. Just wanted to make sure as u11 is not released for everybody yet and the night browser is 3rd part sw.16:45
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coderuslouisdk: u11 browser and engine have higher versions than mine :)17:02
coderusso no problems here17:02
louisdkcoderus, cool :)17:02
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coderuschem|st: ping17:16
coderuschem|st: sdcard mount works for me in 1.1.2.15: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1031085317:17
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chem|stcoderus: now check against $home/android_sdcard17:18
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chem|stehrm android_storage17:18
chem|stthe mount works but the fuse does not17:18
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chem|stoptification happens after the mount and it needs to happen before the mount17:20
coderusandroid_storage shohuld care?17:20
coderusit doesn't matter if it points to real /data/media17:20
chem|styes that is the folder used by android17:21
coderussince everything in /data/media point to sdcard17:21
chem|stbut it uses /opt/alien/data/media and not /data/media17:21
coderusah sure, opened android terminal and /data/media points to different location17:22
chem|st/opt/alien/data/media is pointing to the internal /data/media/17:22
chem|stnot to your mounted sdcard17:23
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chem|stas optification does not take mounted volumes with it17:23
coderuschem|st: you know what in u11 /opr/alien is runnin inside chroot, right?17:23
coderus/opt/alient*17:23
coderus/opt/alien**17:23
chem|stbut if you mount after optification you mount to opt too17:23
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chem|styou need to alter the alien.sh to have it work automatically again17:24
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chem|stand that is something I do not trust $user to touch17:25
chem|stit is only the last line that is starting aliendalvik after optification that should go somewhere (.service) later so we can mount to the chroot in between17:26
chem|stor do you have another idea? one could be to have it autostart, stop aliendalvik, mount sdcard, start aliendalvik17:27
coderuswhat about this? https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/?answer=46430#post-id-4643017:29
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chem|stthat is just another way of using systemd to mount the volume, I will update to that as soon as I found a proper way to do it17:39
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chem|stcoderus: the script starting aliendalvik has both, the trigger for optification and the trigger for fusemounting in it... and we need to mount in between those - that is the problem17:41
chem|stI don't want to stop aliendalvik mount and start it again, but that seems the only way atm17:42
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Linnakhi, does someone know if hungarian language available already on jolla?18:01
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coderusSfietKonstantinW: ping18:56
coderusyou really need to add option to force unapplying patch ignoring all errors18:56
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anYcthere is no new SDK for u11, is this correct?19:31
j-dogenothing out yet19:32
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chem|stanYc: Id guess a week after release19:34
chem|stand not RC release19:35
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coderusanYc: i don't think there some changed in SDK19:56
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CardenalJimenezhi20:02
CardenalJimenezhey r0kk3rz20:02
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz : what's your LOGONSERVER var value?20:03
r0kk3rzCardenalJimenez: my pc name20:04
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CardenalJimenezan you're using Win 81. right?20:05
r0kk3rzyeah20:05
CardenalJimenez*8.120:05
CardenalJimenezgood20:05
CardenalJimenezI now know why it does not work on mine20:05
CardenalJimenezwhat's your user account type?20:05
r0kk3rzoffline20:05
CardenalJimenezthat's it20:06
r0kk3rzdidnt want no shitty live account bollocks20:06
CardenalJimenezmine is Microsoft account20:06
CardenalJimenezso logon server is not local computer20:06
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r0kk3rzand that matters?20:06
anYcchem|st: coderus thanks!20:06
CardenalJimenezyep20:06
r0kk3rzwooow20:06
r0kk3rzgood job microsoft20:06
CardenalJimenezI tried with a test local account20:06
CardenalJimenezworked20:06
CardenalJimenezMicrosoft account20:06
CardenalJimenezQt IDE goes berserk20:07
CardenalJimenezcannot find local folders20:07
r0kk3rzwell there you go20:07
CardenalJimenezevent when properly configured20:07
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CardenalJimenezI was going insane20:07
r0kk3rzyet another reason to not have a windows online account20:07
CardenalJimenezwell more than I'm already :)20:07
CardenalJimenezyeah20:07
CardenalJimenezI did not know that when I logged on for the first time20:07
* CardenalJimenez Fuck you Microsoft!20:08
r0kk3rzyeah it doesnt give you an option using OOB setup20:08
r0kk3rzyou have to make a new account, then nuke your old one20:08
CardenalJimenezI'm going to take a break - I'm exhausted20:08
r0kk3rzhah20:08
CardenalJimenezat least I know what was the issue20:08
r0kk3rzbut you've only just got started!20:08
r0kk3rznow you can make apps20:09
CardenalJimenezI'll let know the guys at Jolla20:09
CardenalJimenezYES!20:09
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CardenalJimenezBut I don't want to nuke my current account20:09
CardenalJimenezSoooo20:09
r0kk3rzworth a TJC post i think20:09
CardenalJimenezYep20:09
CardenalJimenezsure20:09
r0kk3rzsdk works, but only with local account and home var set20:09
CardenalJimenezdoesn't need home var20:10
CardenalJimenez:)) another great finding20:10
r0kk3rzsure?20:10
CardenalJimenezyes20:10
CardenalJimenezI'm going to make a VirtualBox VM20:10
CardenalJimenezwith Windows in it20:10
CardenalJimenezAND a fucking LOCAL MS account20:10
r0kk3rzwindows all the way down?20:11
CardenalJimenezcould use Linux20:11
CardenalJimenezBut20:11
CardenalJimenezI want to give a try to Win10 Technical PREVIEW - TADA!20:11
kimmoli:) .. but where you install mersdk vm? vm in vm is not going to work20:11
r0kk3rzvm in a vm in a vm in a vm20:11
CardenalJimenezSee if I can find a case I can make SDK install fail again :)))20:12
CardenalJimenezkimmoli: damn it !20:12
r0kk3rzif you use a linux vm you can run the mersdk in a chroot20:12
r0kk3rzinstead of vm20:12
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CardenalJimenezyou're sure mersdk vm in a Win10 vm is not going to work?20:13
CardenalJimenezthat was so meta-entangled - classy and inceptive. I feld like Leo DiCaprio for a minute.20:14
Accevm in a vm works if I remember correctly. but... the performance is horrible20:14
CardenalJimenezyeah, agreed - that was just for the fun anyway - don't think Win10 Preview was worth it anyway20:14
CardenalJimenezso linux vm + chroot it is20:15
CardenalJimenezdamn20:15
CardenalJimenezthis sdk on Win8 really melt my brain20:15
Accehow about you make a USB bootable linux with the SDK in it :) if you want / need to keep windows20:15
r0kk3rzbeen meaning to set up the sdk in my fedora vm like that20:15
Accethen you could boot into your dev environment, fewer distractions too20:15
r0kk3rzrunning vbox full screen works too20:16
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r0kk3rzalthough i think i need to switch DE on fedora20:16
r0kk3rzgnome3 is a little bit sparse...20:17
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CardenalJimenezAcce: Linux vm - coz I want SDK on my personal laptop, which is Windows and that laptop is very light.20:20
CardenalJimenezthat was fun20:20
CardenalJimenezsort of...20:20
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Nokiusgreat work Jolla!20:50
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louisdkThis is strange. I've installed sudo from NielDK, added nemo to the wheel group and uncommented %wheel in visudo, but when I run sudo something as nano, it asks for passwd and then says Iøm not in the sudoers file.20:54
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Accesudo from mer-tools repo works for me20:57
chem|stI did not get the need for sudo at all... maybe very limited sudo where sudoers are allowed to do none mission critical things... but on a device with one user...20:59
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Acceit's nice to read logs without always writing the password with the clumsy vkbd21:01
louisdkWell. A reboot helped.21:02
Accedon't use it for anything else, though21:02
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louisdkchem|st, so do you use sudo with NOPASSWD or?21:02
louisdkI've just used it to change hostname and reinstall sailfish-browser21:03
louisdkI like to use sudo. I'm more aware of when I do something as root because I need to type sudo in front of every command.21:06
Nokiusis there a label for tjc if we find bugs in SFOS preview21:06
Accebug21:06
Acceoh21:06
chem|stlouisdk: the point is, on a single user machine with noone else than me sudo is if I do not want to be logged in as root and run something... or if I have a script run as user but one line needs root so I sudo that, with password21:07
Accemaybe just the name of the latest lake?21:07
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chem|ston any ubuntu I see I open a terminal "sudo su" and upload my ssh key...21:09
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Accelol21:09
chem|stNokius: "bug"21:10
Nokiusokay :)21:10
chem|st:)21:10
Nokiusif I open a new question its already there ;)21:10
Nokiusbtw. closed a BUG on tjc :D21:11
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raa700wut21:14
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Nokiusah not a BUG its a feature :-/21:22
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coderusPowermenu 2 - fancy menu and configuration for power key actions for #SailfishOS.21:32
coderushttps://openrepos.net/content/coderus/powermenu-221:32
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Nokiuso/21:41
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faenilNokius: o/21:42
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Nokiusfaenil: hope your job search is in good stage21:47
faenilNokius: it is, thanks ;)21:48
Nokius:)21:48
faenilI can't complain, quite good offers so far :)21:48
tigelii feel old :d21:49
Nokiusfaenil: that sounds good21:49
faenilyeah :)21:50
Nokiusnot sure if I like the weather application idea is superb but the forecast bar is over lapping to often the main view21:51
faenilmm?21:52
Nokiusor the Jolla screen is to small :D21:53
Acceoverlapping how?21:54
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Nokiusone monent video is uloading soon21:56
Nokiusuploading21:56
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chem|stNokius: you mean the bottom line... that is because teh design forces the logo there...22:05
Nokiushttps://nokius.net/stuff/IMG_0077.MOV22:05
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chem|stoh longer entries too...22:06
Nokiusyeap may if the bar show only the date and if you swipe it up it shows the forecast?22:06
Nokiusyeah looks really ....22:06
Nokiusopen on tjc?22:06
chem|stthe margins are too wide, you may loose 3-4mm by reducing those alone22:07
chem|stNokius: if there is none do22:07
Accehmm I see22:08
Accestill, I prefer to see the forecast22:09
Nokiusme too :D but the flick is :(22:09
Acceside panel from right wouldn't be bad22:09
Accefor the forecast22:09
Nokiusto swipe up the forecast is also nice22:10
Accebut I guess side panels are not really in the scope of Jolla's UI principles22:10
chem|stmaybe add that the date is pretty unneccessary and the station too, could be both somewhere else or the useless "this is a forecast" "this is today" below the city name be repaced22:11
chem|streplaced22:11
Acceyeah, personally the small view in events should use the space better22:11
Accenow the location text takes over half of it22:11
Accealthough it probably stays same almost always, so not very relevant to see "hmm ok I'm still in this place"22:12
chem|stit is the primary location you set so as long as there is no GPS based weather...22:14
Acceyeah22:15
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Acceshouldn't be too hard to remember which one you set it to22:16
AcceI'd rather see the probability for rain or something there, and wind..22:16
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Nokiushttps://together.jolla.com/question/82280/bug-weather-appliaction-flickable-details/22:17
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cvp_Nokius, +1 vote22:19
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Nokiuscvp_: https://together.jolla.com/question/82261/bug-weather-ui-events-view-confusing/ ;) take look heare to22:21
M4rtinKI think that we need a Doge Weather app :)22:21
M4rtinKhttp://dogeweather.com/22:21
ejjoman:D22:21
Nokius:D22:22
cvp_Nokius, aaaand +1 :D22:22
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Nokiuscoderus: where to vote!!!22:36
coderusNokius: in tmo of course22:36
Nokiusfor the meecast integration?22:36
chem|stcoderus: hijacking, really?22:38
Nokius.-/22:39
coderuschem|st: haha, you everywhere :D22:39
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coderuschem|st: feel free to remove it, we will create foreca replacement anyway! you can't stop us!22:40
chem|stcoderus: I am more about that you hijack someones post not that you want to make alternatives!22:41
NokiusI had the same idea to replace the FORECA data22:42
Nokiusnn22:46
M4rtinKDoge Weather! :)22:47
Nokius:D22:47
coderuschem|st: just use your admin privileges and remove my answer :)22:48
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Nokiusoh an other bug22:53
Nokiuswhy to the hack are the pictures zoomed in the gallery cover HOW like to see pixel22:54
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Nokiusbut nice to the how the cover handles svg and transparent png files :D22:55
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chem|stcoderus: do you start an own thread?23:04
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coderuschem|st: no23:19
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