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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: it has finally come to this. im implementing q-grams too for fast filtering... | 00:22 |
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| saidinesh5 | also we now directly read from android dictionary files | 00:22 |
| saidinesh5 | after this q-grams stuff only the boring stuff left for the alpha milestone | 00:23 |
| saidinesh5 | lol i quite hoped to avoid q-grams.. | 00:23 |
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| sakustar | are there any discount codes available now for the web store since it seems local retailers dont stock jolla anymore? :l | 00:45 |
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| sakustar | they only had one on display and didnt know if they could sell it or not. :D | 00:46 |
| aoeu | hello | 00:46 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: ok, that sounds pretty neat actually :D | 01:12 |
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| lordkennedy99 | Hello? | 01:35 |
| lordkennedy99 | Nope | 01:36 |
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| louisdk | Hi | 02:19 |
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| coderus | patch for resetting image scale by doubletap: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-gallery-doubletap-scale-reset | 03:47 |
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| Olpe | thats a nice one coderus! I'm having problems getting eventsview control center back because it fails unapplying the old patch. Have tried uninstalling and reinstalling etc. Is there a way to force removing the old patch? | 06:00 |
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| Olpe | got it working... had to disable patch "Volume slider fix for control centers" first | 06:31 |
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| stephg | gning! | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | morning stephg | 08:16 |
| Yaniel | moarning | 08:16 |
| corne | time to reset my device xD | 08:19 |
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| corne | hehe back at Sailfish OS 1.0.0.5, it has changed a lot since then :) | 08:33 |
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| Nicd- | corne: don't install anything before upgrading | 08:36 |
| Nicd- | better yet don't do anything except add your jolla account | 08:36 |
| Yaniel | one sorry luser tried once | 08:37 |
| corne | hehe ok | 08:37 |
| Yaniel | it was like roman circus after that | 08:37 |
| corne | i've also enabled dev mode | 08:37 |
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| corne | Checking for updates... Up to date | 08:40 |
| Nicd- | yeah, you shouldn't have enabled dev mode :( | 08:40 |
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| corne | well, reset doesnt take that long xD | 08:40 |
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| urjaman | and you should add the account (without that it doesnt give updates)... | 08:41 |
| corne | yeah did that | 08:41 |
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| corne | so, add account, nothing else | 08:47 |
| corne | then it should find the update? | 08:47 |
| Yaniel | might take a couple of tries | 08:48 |
| corne | ah :P | 08:48 |
| corne | do i need to be on wifi? | 08:48 |
| corne | oh he found it :P | 08:49 |
| Yaniel | I couldn't get wifi to connect back then :D | 08:49 |
| corne | I still have unlimited data xD | 08:50 |
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| Armadillo | nazanin I'm sorry to bother you yet another time, but you approved PhotoTools yesterday and it hasn't been published yet, although this always happened minutes after approving normally. Maybe there's something going wrong? | 09:05 |
| coderus | Olpe: you need to remove "Volume slider fix for control centers" and forget about this old stupid patch | 09:06 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: good that you pined me, lemme check | 09:06 |
| cos- | is the issue with contactsd reported? | 09:13 |
| cos- | a friend just reported it uses 100% cpu and battery lasts for 5 minutes | 09:13 |
| cos- | after the upgrade | 09:16 |
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| urjaman | truly 5 minutes would be something ... | 09:25 |
| Acce | wow | 09:27 |
| Acce | the phone must be heating a lot | 09:27 |
| Juuba | it wasnt' the battery that ran out of juice | 09:36 |
| Juuba | it just crashed | 09:36 |
| Juuba | (not mine, but same friend as above) | 09:36 |
| Juuba | now he reemoved SDcard, lipstick consumin 30% of cpu | 09:37 |
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| Juuba | SDcard was FAT | 09:37 |
| Juuba | not betterfs | 09:37 |
| Olpe | coderus: how to remove old patches? I have a long list of patches that don't even work anymore... | 09:41 |
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| corne | Olpe: there should be a backup | 09:43 |
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| Olpe | corne ? | 09:44 |
| corne | in /opt/patchmanager/backups/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml/ | 09:44 |
| corne | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92935 | 09:44 |
| corne | but i'm not sure if that is going to work :P didn't work for me | 09:44 |
| urjaman | i think he meant just the patches, not their application ... | 09:44 |
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| urjaman | ugh, words fail. | 09:45 |
| corne | ah :P | 09:45 |
| Olpe | yes. everything works fine on my phone now. The only "problem" is that inside patchmanager i see some old patches that are not valid anymore | 09:45 |
| Olpe | and cannot be enabled | 09:46 |
| corne | oh those | 09:46 |
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| corne | is the close app gesture removed in the last update :S? | 09:47 |
| Nicd- | no | 09:47 |
| Nicd- | it's just not on by default | 09:47 |
| Nicd- | it's in settings -> system -> shortcuts I think | 09:48 |
| corne | ah there, thanks | 09:48 |
| corne | wasn't looking for that in the shortcuts item :P | 09:48 |
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| pketolai | Armadillo, nazanin: phototools has been kicked forward :) thanks for reporting | 10:09 |
| Armadillo | pketolai nazanin thank you ;) | 10:10 |
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| corne | there was a ambience switcher that could be opened by swiping left/right from the homescreen right? | 10:25 |
| Yaniel | yes | 10:25 |
| Yaniel | you need to favourite one or more ambiences for it to appear though | 10:25 |
| corne | oh wait | 10:25 |
| corne | i see | 10:25 |
| corne | thanks :P | 10:25 |
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| Tofe | Did someone have the time to took at the "sdcard as adnroid storage" issue with the update preview ? | 10:47 |
| Tofe | I looked at it a bit, but couldn't understand how the fuse mounts work (my knowledge of fusectl is near-zero) | 10:48 |
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| chem|st | Tofe: how about me? | 11:01 |
| chem|st | Tofe: the problem is now that optification->chroot->fusemount are one step for systemd, aliendalvik.service calls a script doing the optification and the last step is to call the alien startup script which then fusemounts | 11:03 |
| chem|st | what you can do is write a script and make a desktop icon to stop aliendalvik and mount uSD subvolume - but you need to make sure after boot that dalvik is already running when doing it | 11:05 |
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| corne | lol, the weather app is a day off xD | 11:11 |
| Nicd- | mine seems to be on the correct day | 11:11 |
| corne | it says it is 21 feb | 11:12 |
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| Nicd- | corne: screenshot? | 11:12 |
| corne | noticed there was no saturday between Today and Sunday xD | 11:12 |
| corne | sure 2 sec | 11:12 |
| Nicd- | is your phone clock correct? | 11:13 |
| corne | jep :P checked that | 11:13 |
| corne | The app: http://a.pomf.se/xfhmrj.png, The date settings: http://a.pomf.se/cbzwhf.png | 11:16 |
| corne | hmm | 11:17 |
| corne | that happens when i open the app using the notification screen | 11:17 |
| corne | not when I open the app using the launcher | 11:17 |
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| Armadillo | pketolai the problem from yesterday where the store still tries to install TaskList 1.2.1 instead of 1.1.5 on SailfishOS 1.0.8.19 seems to be remaining | 11:25 |
| pketolai | Armadillo: ok, I'll do some more investigation | 11:27 |
| Armadillo | thanks :) | 11:27 |
| corne | Nicd-: seems to have fixed itself xD | 11:31 |
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| Tofe | chem|st: ah ok, I understand | 11:35 |
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| chem|st | Tofe: if you have a better idea let me know, word is that this will stay like that for a while now | 12:19 |
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| Tofe | chem|st: well, I still have to investigate more how the fusemount are triggered, maybe there's a way to insert our mount in between | 12:34 |
| chem|st | Tofe: I do not want to alter the jolla files... at least that was the idea | 12:34 |
| Tofe | chem|st: I agree, neither do I :) | 12:34 |
| chem|st | Tofe: if you are fine with that just add your mount in the alien.sh after the optification | 12:35 |
| chem|st | Tofe: and yes, I have no idea where the fuse is blown^^ | 12:35 |
| Tofe | :) | 12:35 |
| chem|st | from the looks it is done from inside dalvik runtimes as everything else just prepares to be ready to fuse | 12:36 |
| chem|st | coderus: that cries for a patch ;) | 12:36 |
| Tofe | chem|st: there is a fuse_sdcard_update.sh call that might be usefull, actually | 12:38 |
| Tofe | but I don't have that file on my system, and I don't know if it would conflict with another alien package | 12:39 |
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| Tofe | looks like the type of file that the system would create on the fly to trigger an update related to alien | 12:43 |
| chem|st | Tofe: some day there will be made use of the sdcard, I guess this is in there from the developers testing possibilities | 12:43 |
| Tofe | yup. looks like a pretty bad idea to use it. | 12:44 |
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| chem|st | has anyone got bash_completion working... nieldks stuff blows up in my face and I am pretty pissed at having to type every single step of the way... | 14:05 |
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| coderus | chem|st: i have bash-completions working well | 14:46 |
| coderus | rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio sdfsd ... cpio not installed, thinking... do you want to install cpio? yes. installing cpio!! ... and cpio executed after installing :) | 14:47 |
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| coderus | i like how it works much better than on my kubuntu laptop :D | 14:48 |
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| chem|st | coderus: mind to guide me, all attempts to source it like on a desktop machine did work out very well so far, not | 14:52 |
| chem|st | do you have stock bash? | 14:53 |
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| coderus | chem|st: completions supported only in bash 4 | 15:13 |
| coderus | bash 3 not supporting completions | 15:13 |
| leszek | is that normal on a jolla ? | 15:16 |
| leszek | devid 1 size 13.75GiB used 13.75GiB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 15:16 |
| Nicd- | leszek: read https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 15:17 |
| leszek | Nicd-: I've read that already | 15:18 |
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| Nicd- | then you should know it's a problem :) | 15:18 |
| Nicd- | argh, my used has grown back to 11.60 GiB | 15:19 |
| coderus | leszek: i'm living okay with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10325722 | 15:19 |
| leszek | I have no problem thats the problem :P | 15:19 |
| leszek | btrfs balance start -dusage=10 / runs without changing anything | 15:19 |
| coderus | peoples just understand this values wrong | 15:19 |
| leszek | Total devices 1 FS bytes used 10.82GiB | 15:19 |
| leszek | so I guess I have 3 GiB free appr. | 15:19 |
| Nicd- | leszek: well, it becomes a problem when it becomes a problem... | 15:19 |
| leszek | the strange thing is I have linux run here on a btrfs system aswell and it becomes unusable when it shows 13.75GiB used 13.75GiB | 15:21 |
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| Nicd- | my phone became unusable when it hit 13.75 | 15:21 |
| leszek | so I cannot even write anything on it. Even though the used space is lower. But on jolla it keeps on writing stuff and I experience no problem | 15:21 |
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| leszek | thats the strange problem I have making me wonder wtf is going on here | 15:22 |
| Nicd- | maybe your writes don't trigger a reallocation yet | 15:22 |
| leszek | the strange thing is btrfs balance seems to not rebalance anything | 15:22 |
| Nicd- | have you tried increasing -dusage? | 15:23 |
| leszek | yeah up to 50 | 15:25 |
| leszek | doesn't matter | 15:25 |
| Nicd- | I just did with 20 and it returned instantly but with 50 it release 1 GiB | 15:26 |
| Nicd- | released* | 15:26 |
| leszek | I will start removing some old music folder and see after that | 15:28 |
| leszek | its about 800 MB of old crap that can be removed :) | 15:28 |
| stephg | I just run it on it's own; fwiw, in 14months I'd generated 500MB of imap that once removing the account, rebalancing freed an additional 1GB for metadata | 15:29 |
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| leszek | stephg: thats a good tip. I never removed mail attachements. I think they are also stored in /home/nemo/ somewhere | 15:30 |
| louisdk | Why do I need to reboot to change language? Wouldn't it be enought to just restart libstick or log out and in again? | 15:30 |
| Nicd- | to a user that's effectively the same as rebooting :) | 15:31 |
| stephg | leszek there's a mail_attachments dir iirc somewhere, maybe under Documents or Downloads | 15:31 |
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| louisdk | Nicd-, so it's to make it easier (to understand) for the user? | 15:32 |
| leszek | stephg: yep found it under Downloads | 15:32 |
| Nicd- | louisdk: I don't know but it's possible | 15:32 |
| louisdk | I also don't see why shortcuts like swipe to close or lockscreen shortcuts should be disabled by default? | 15:33 |
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| daitheflu | is it possible to change the locale of the emulator ? I'd like to test my translations | 15:46 |
| coderus | LANG=your_locale yourapp | 15:47 |
| daitheflu | coderus: sounds rather cryptic to me but I think it's enough to figure out the rest by myself, thanks :) | 15:50 |
| Yaniel | ssh is the keyword | 15:51 |
| coderus | daitheflu: what are you talking about? | 15:52 |
| daitheflu | coderus: I was talking about your previous answer | 15:52 |
| coderus | ah :D | 15:53 |
| coderus | daitheflu: in projects - run - run environment | 15:55 |
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| Yaniel | oh there is a gui way too | 15:55 |
| daitheflu | coderus: oh great :) thanks a lot | 15:56 |
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| daitheflu | yay, I think I'm ready to face harbour validation :D | 16:05 |
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| chem|st | coderus: well then there is no working bash_completion! | 17:30 |
| chem|st | 3.2... well even my netbook is more upstream and that runs an LTS distribution | 17:31 |
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| coderus | why not install bash 4? | 17:34 |
| r0kk3rz | why not zoidberg? | 17:37 |
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| chem|st | why not make jolla install bash 4 and bash_completion | 17:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | jolla wont do it because of gpl3 | 17:39 |
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| chem|st | ? | 17:40 |
| louisdk | https://together.jolla.com/question/56897/embrace-gplv3/ | 17:41 |
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| chem|st | hmm thanks... I actually don't know what is keeping them from it still | 18:01 |
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| Stskeeps | i think going in direction of toolbox/busybox is more likely for those parts, as a general thought | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | but not excising all gpl like android does | 18:03 |
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| Nokius_ | mh gimp is broken :( | 20:49 |
| attah | my sailfish sdk is broken, stop whining ;) | 20:50 |
| Nokius_ | no I need RAM! | 20:50 |
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| Nokius_ | attah: soory to hear that | 21:04 |
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| attah | thanks for the sympathy. although i really should move on from a dated OS.. this just settles it | 21:05 |
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| attah | but since i can't decide on a new laptop i'm stuck in limbo | 21:06 |
| Nokius_ | :D I had the same problem :D | 21:12 |
| Nokius_ | so added my idea to solve the problem https://together.jolla.com/question/82280/bug-weather-appliaction-flickable-details/ | 21:12 |
| attah | Nokius_: ? | 21:14 |
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| Nokius_ | had old outdated OS and than I got the new and SDK works :D | 21:14 |
| Nokius_ | laptop | 21:15 |
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| attah | which one did you choose? | 21:15 |
| Nokius_ | X240 :-/ but may is 8 GB RAM :,( but two batterys the T440p has a known Dock Bug so I bourd the X240 | 21:16 |
| Nokius_ | but I have also same issue with the dock and the screen ... but It looks to my screen has some issue not the X240 and the dock ..... but never tried other screen or other X240 | 21:17 |
| attah | okay :/ | 21:18 |
| Nokius_ | my Eizo screen was on a fire sale and may be I know now why :) | 21:19 |
| attah | hehe :P | 21:19 |
| M4rtinK | x240 has that retarded "clicky" touchpad, right ? :) | 21:19 |
| Nokius_ | yes it has the touchpad and no keys if you use the red dot :( | 21:20 |
| Nokius_ | don't tell me all the bad stuff :D:D | 21:20 |
| attah | who does that anyway? :O | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | well there are some tricks that apparently make it less awful | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | but nothing can really fix those mechanical issues :) | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | isn't it also limited to 8 GB RAM max : | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | ? | 21:21 |
| Nokius_ | and yes the screen is like a MacBook :( but you are able to have 180° | 21:21 |
| attah | is it that crap, or you just don't agree with the design? | 21:22 |
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| Nokius_ | yes only 2 slods BUT TWO Batterys !!!! | 21:22 |
| Nokius_ | attah: both if you LOVE the Dot | 21:22 |
| Nokius_ | track pad is okay | 21:23 |
| attah | so fine for me then | 21:23 |
| Nokius_ | ;) | 21:23 |
| attah | anything that gives me 3 buttons in a decent way... | 21:24 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC the 2015 year models are less stupid | 21:24 |
| M4rtinK | they have at least the upper buttons back | 21:24 |
| Nokius_ | ah and it has one backcover no easy HDD change or RAM change you have to open all | 21:24 |
| Nokius_ | there is new one :,( got my around Dec | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | well, I'll be staying with my T520 for the foreseeable future :) | 21:25 |
| attah | I'm thinking X1 LaVie or MBA.. but X1 is the only one that's out yet and it's a bit too expensive to feel right | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | nothing really compelling in the never models so far :) | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | attah: *carefully check the X1 keyboard* | 21:26 |
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| Nokius_ | the Carbon X1 looks good but it's a ultrabook so .. may less usefull :D | 21:26 |
| M4rtinK | http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/thinkpad-x1-carbon-keyboard.jpg | 21:27 |
| Nokius_ | ah the X240 aswell | 21:27 |
| attah | DAFUQ?! | 21:27 |
| M4rtinK | thats the 2014 model | 21:28 |
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| Nokius_ | oh but yeah the x240 is also .... | 21:28 |
| M4rtinK | the 2015 model is again less awful: https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/5FKbVjzSSyI2_xKwmIOhmn7kvzQ=/1020x0/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2901964/ces-2015-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-laptops-0041.0.jpg | 21:28 |
| attah | seems fixed on the 2015.. | 21:28 |
| M4rtinK | still limited to 8 GB RAM IIRC | 21:28 |
| M4rtinK | and some other smaller drawbacks | 21:29 |
| attah | my MBA has 2, so i'll survive ;) | 21:29 |
| Nokius_ | oh it has a insert key x240 not | 21:30 |
| M4rtinK | no insert -> no vim -> no sale :P | 21:30 |
| M4rtinK | (simplified version) | 21:31 |
| attah | bah.. insret is the caps lock of the right hand | 21:31 |
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| attah | *insert | 21:31 |
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| Nokius_ | :D you have fn + | 21:31 |
| Nokius_ | end | 21:31 |
| Nokius_ | so now you know why I have a dock :D | 21:32 |
| sakustar | why not dell? | 21:32 |
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| sakustar | dell will help if you need a laptopper | 21:32 |
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| stephg | I have a colleague that swears by his thinkpad carbon, I swear by my 2013 xps, and will be buying the new shiny when the tax year comes round :) | 21:32 |
| M4rtinK | anyway, this is how a proper notebook keyboard should look like: http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_IMG_6480_Kopie_02_9bb570c392.jpg | 21:32 |
| Nokius_ | I don't like it but this is personal | 21:32 |
| attah | M4rtinK: nope! T/R60 is better | 21:33 |
| Nokius_ | true | 21:33 |
| sakustar | M4rtinK: want one? | 21:33 |
| sakustar | from an x200 | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | sakustar: no, thanks :) | 21:34 |
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| attah | sakustar: i was looking at the developer edition.. but it seems to have vanished? | 21:34 |
| sakustar | what about 2 bags of n900s ? (all in pieces, should work if you put them back) | 21:34 |
| sakustar | :D | 21:35 |
| coderus | chem|st: wanna create patch for mounting? | 21:35 |
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| ottulonen | ah, I was wondering if those actual mouse keys on ThinkPads were a thing of the past, looks like I just got the worse verion | 21:35 |
| ottulonen | *version | 21:36 |
| ottulonen | but at least I have full num pad | 21:36 |
| Nokius_ | attah: so you run Leopard or Lion ? | 21:36 |
| attah | snow leopard | 21:36 |
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| Nokius_ | :D | 21:36 |
| attah | the last sane one | 21:36 |
| attah | it's the windows 7 of osx | 21:36 |
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| Nokius_ | attah: SDK is not working on it since two releases | 21:37 |
| attah | yup | 21:37 |
| Nokius_ | used at the end OBS :D | 21:37 |
| sakustar | ottulonen: pointing sticks just cost more | 21:37 |
| sakustar | for the consumer anyway :( | 21:38 |
| Nokius_ | didn't feel same at the end so I got me a new toy and my first Thinkpad | 21:39 |
| ottulonen | sakustar: sorry, I didn't quite catch what you mean | 21:39 |
| sakustar | or did you mean the 3 mouse buttons? | 21:40 |
| ottulonen | yup | 21:40 |
| ottulonen | I'm missing those, just got the clickable trackpad | 21:40 |
| sakustar | aw | 21:41 |
| ottulonen | like so: http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_Lenovo_ThinkPad_Edge_E540_10_von_34_adb9d2671e.jpg | 21:41 |
| sakustar | does the x series still have 3 buttons? | 21:41 |
| sakustar | you could bind touchpad as mouse3 ... :( | 21:42 |
| sakustar | did that on my elitebook | 21:42 |
| attah | numpads are evil, both on laptops and normal keyboards | 21:42 |
| ottulonen | well, I generally use a separate mouse on the laptop as well, since it's on my desk at home 99% of the time | 21:42 |
| tigeli | ottulonen: lenovo added those physical mouse buttons back on this years models.. as they got so much feedback about when they removed them on last years models | 21:43 |
| ottulonen | tigeli: yeah, saw the links above | 21:44 |
| Nokius_ | but the numpad Thinkpad has 2K screen :o | 21:44 |
| Nokius_ | W something | 21:44 |
| sakustar | tigeli: all is not lost it seems | 21:44 |
| sakustar | :D | 21:44 |
| tigeli | :) | 21:45 |
| tigeli | the plain touchpad was just horrible | 21:45 |
| tigeli | clicking and making funny noises.. and much more worse than apple's | 21:45 |
| Nokius_ | guess it was the most retwitted post before the fish thing :D | 21:45 |
| tigeli | :D | 21:45 |
| sakustar | fish thing? o.o | 21:46 |
| Nokius_ | the ssl cert betafish SW | 21:46 |
| sakustar | ah | 21:46 |
| Nokius_ | ah superfish | 21:47 |
| Nokius_ | ADWARE ! | 21:47 |
| tigeli | luckily they did not call it sailfish ;) | 21:47 |
| Nokius_ | no only super :O | 21:48 |
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| Nokius_ | nn | 21:50 |
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| stephg | niight | 21:51 |
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