Sunday, 2015-03-08

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locusfbluszcz: hi07:42
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cvp_\o09:12
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cvp_can some one explain whats wrong? or help me to fix it? https://www.zerobin.net/?672a6919a9b2f3d7#MOEGV636kQ5yVmMeFNLA2cT0vXe4ARQONnP9Jt/WlA0= / http://www11.pic-upload.de/08.03.15/jfzxziya9cnb.png09:57
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Nicd-cvp_: your stuff is not inside the column09:59
r0kk3rzyour text fields arent in your flickable?09:59
Nicd-only your headers are09:59
Nicd-r0kk3rz: they are all in the flickable09:59
Nicd-the indentation is all screwed up so it's hard to see09:59
r0kk3rzit looks like there is an extra bracket after the column10:00
Nicd-ah, that too10:00
r0kk3rzbut either way, looks like the object heirachy is wrong10:00
aquelloafter the sectio header10:00
Nicd-true, they are not in the flickable10:01
Nicd-indentation screwed with me10:01
Nicd-cvp_: you should put all of those inside the column10:01
Nicd-in the order you want them displayed10:01
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cvp_ok i will try10:02
aquellohow can i make a textfield put a default value if contains no value ?10:03
zoldyckis it planned to move the Android files/directories in future updates from / to some subfolder? I mean it's all now chrooted anyway10:04
zoldyckand not mixing Sailfish and Android files will look cleaner10:04
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cvp_r0kk3rz, Nicd- thanks now works ^^10:11
cvp_but is the rest all okay? will it save as a file? because if i put some informations and go back to main page and visit settings again, there is no informations inside https://www.zerobin.net/?e22302da831bfaac#xsWdtchLW4nWDX4FSWI94zLV8C6DS0NIG2Coc7IV+vY=10:14
cvp_on sdk10:14
r0kk3rzdoesnt look like it will save it anywhere10:20
r0kk3rzyou'd want to write a quick qsettings wrapper for qml10:20
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r0kk3rzhttps://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/src/settings.cpp << like this10:21
aquelloarg i made with storage.js ><10:22
r0kk3rzaquello: you can use whatever you like really10:22
r0kk3rzbut qsettings is pretty easy10:23
aquelloyes and with defaults values and all10:23
r0kk3rzsome use dconf instead10:23
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cvp_r0kk3rz, can i put the code from setting.cpp in to my hyperion.cpp ? sorry, i am beginner ^^10:29
r0kk3rzwell you could use my settings.cpp/settings.h as is really10:29
r0kk3rzthrow it into QML land using >> https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/src/SirenSong-Media-Player.cpp#L4310:30
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r0kk3rzand use like so >> https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml10:31
r0kk3rzalso, in your main.cpp file you need to set you app organisation >> https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/src/SirenSong-Media-Player.cpp#L3210:31
coderuslol, wanted to listen systemd dbus to create aliendalvik control button, but it crashes wayland, what wrong? :D https://gist.github.com/CODeRUS/f8316ac11deb32d8dc0d10:33
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cvp_puh....10:35
coderusthis is minimal test you can try yourself: https://gist.github.com/CODeRUS/f3d86df5b11e1ef2344a10:37
coderuswhen page active just do some systemctl stop/start aliendalvik10:37
coderusand at some iteration wayland will die :)10:37
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r0kk3rzcvp_: its a good little introduction to using cpp in qml10:43
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cvp_r0kk3rz, you mark L32, is it importend for me? https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/src/SirenSong-Media-Player.cpp#L3210:56
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r0kk3rzcvp_: yeah, you need those two lines for using QSettings11:00
r0kk3rzbecause thats how it stores the settings, using org name and app name11:00
r0kk3rzso you can have org level settings that multiple apps look at11:01
r0kk3rzand app specific settings11:01
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cvp_okay.... let me see if i can handle with it ^^11:06
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aquellowhats the name of a gui element that allows only true/false in qml ?11:12
aquellocheckbox :P11:14
aquellosorry11:14
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coderusaquello: Switch11:15
coderusor TextSwich11:15
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cvp_r0kk3rz, what is the "wayfarer" in SirenSong-Media-Player.cpp ?11:17
r0kk3rzcvp_: thats registering some other things into qml11:22
cvp_... is it right that i dont really need the line 33-39 ?11:22
r0kk3rzbut the context property is what you need11:22
r0kk3rzyou'll want 3311:22
r0kk3rzand 4111:23
cvp_is com.xxxx.xxxx the path to save the connection setting ?11:26
aquellosailfish silica reference is hosted somewhere?11:26
aquelloi cant found it online11:26
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bluszczaquello: until there will be back online check this: http://web.archive.org/web/20140809005500/https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-application-pitfalls.html11:36
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cvp_how i can install my own com.xxx.xxx module on the sdk ?11:51
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cvp_module "com.settings.sailperion" is not installed - how can i solve this?12:16
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coderuscvp_: emm http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-modules-cppplugins.html12:19
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cvp_thanks12:49
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Nokiuscvp_: looks like you are now hooked too :D16:02
Vegeshite_Mitehooked on phonics16:06
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cvp_Nokius, lol, jap maybe ^^16:08
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Vegeshite_Miteis jap finnish for yes?16:11
Nokiusno german like yes (slang)16:13
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cvp_i forget it every time ^^16:19
cvp_nobody know what is "jap"16:19
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Vegeshite_Miteapparently its german for finnish?16:49
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Mikaelayap is something that foxes say, I think17:37
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Nokiuscvp_: jap is not in the Duden so on word :D17:48
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Stskeepsi'd like to remind everybody of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuE80zW4w4 (firefox os commercical)17:49
Stskeeps:P17:49
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Nokius^.^17:52
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Accewot18:10
Acceam I seeing18:10
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ejjomanwhy18:20
ejjoman:D18:20
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entilcoderus: you might find this interesting, re: the igg update email - http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/06/whatsapp-says-its-not-permanently-banning-users-from-its-service-just-blocking-third-party-clients/18:31
entilhttp://ibnlive.in.com/news/whatsapp-bans-users-of-thirdparty-clients-until-they-uninstall-offending-apps/532626-11.html18:32
entil:( :(18:32
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kimmoli" WhatsApp doesn't control their source code. " and we have to trues their code? sure18:36
kimmoli*trust18:37
entilsure, blind faith in their code and risk getting blocked every time you use a 3rd party client18:37
ppwasn't it username = imei, passwd = md5(imei) originally or whatnot :-)18:37
entilbeats me, but that might be interesting to someone developing a 3rd party client18:37
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kimmoliso only way is to completely fake 3rd party app being whatsapp...18:41
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kimmoliunless they make some authentication checkups periodically?18:41
entilafaik that's how a bunch of mitakuuluu users got blocked, there was an update and mitakuuluu wasn't yet updated, so whatsapp got on to us18:42
coderusentil: i don't care, really :)18:43
entilfair enough18:43
entilI just didn't know it's still a news topic.. whatsapp should get a clue ffs18:44
entilthen again, I don't care if they shoot themselves in the foot with this18:44
coderuswhatsapp don't control our sources, but we're tracking whatsapp sources every time :D18:45
entilpower to the people who want to risk it18:46
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LipevakalaMaybe this will be interesthing in future. Disa beta, Whatsapp plugin, SMS, MMS, Faceb., maybe Telegram, Skype and Twitter all in one app.... http://beste-apps.chip.de/android/app/disa-android-app,com.disa/20:16
cvp_Lipevakala, and than come whatsapp and ban all ;)20:18
Accewish there was one protocol and multiple compatible providers.. but no, everyone just has to have their own20:19
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TaaeemI think WhatsApp only bans modified official like WA+20:20
cvp_r0kk3rz, are you here ? :)20:21
r0kk3rzcvp_: whats up?20:21
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r0kk3rzTaaeem: whatsapp bans third-party clients from a network integrity point of view20:22
r0kk3rzthey cant guarantee that thirdpart WA clients act in good faith to WA users20:22
M4rtinKAKA FUD ;-)20:23
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Taaeemr0kk3rz yes that's their statement but are clients for operating systems blocked which they don't support?20:23
M4rtinKbut you are right in a sense: what if they acted in good faith unlike their client ? :)20:23
cvp_r0kk3rz, can i have a bit time from you? I take some codes from your player, but cpp is hard to understand for me beginner :( can you check whats wrong in my code? https://github.com/sailfishmods/sailperion20:24
r0kk3rzcvp_: you're registering the settings twice, you dont need to do that20:25
kaippariTaaeem, all 3rd party clients are blocked no matter what os they are on20:25
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r0kk3rzcvp_: you dont need this line: https://github.com/sailfishmods/sailperion/blob/master/src/Sailperion.cpp#L1820:26
cvp_you mean the Kopie ?20:26
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LipevakalaBytoway Disa WA works but you can not use it sametime with Anroid WA. Did not test notifications...20:26
cvp_aha, than i can delete the line20:26
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r0kk3rzthen in the qml files you dont need to have the imports for com.settings.sailperion20:28
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r0kk3rzthen use lines like this for setting values >> https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml#L920:29
cvp_ah ok, i thinking its need it to have a folder to save the connection informations...20:29
r0kk3rzthe 'folder' is the appname and orgname20:30
r0kk3rzyou dont need to worry about anything other than that20:30
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r0kk3rznot where and how its actually stored in the operating system, Qt takes care of that for you20:30
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cvp_but what i need to edit the " settings.setValue("playMode", playMode.currentIndex)" line for my plan ?20:31
r0kk3rzwell that will save a value with the name of "playmode" with the value playmode.currentIndex20:32
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r0kk3rzso you can retrieve it later with something like this >> https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml#L1520:32
r0kk3rzhttps://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml#L37 << thats maybe an easier line to understand20:33
r0kk3rzso in your case you can change your save function to store your values20:34
r0kk3rzand you probably want to make some js variables to read your saved values into on page load20:35
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cvp_hm20:39
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r0kk3rzso "config.accountServer = server.text" << this line, will look something more like this "settings.setValue("accountServer", server.text)20:44
cvp_than i can replace the config line with the setting.setValue ? and the other two lines too but of course with the right informations e.g. port,prio20:47
r0kk3rzyeah20:48
r0kk3rzjust set the values with setValue and read them back out with value, and thats it really20:49
cvp_like so ? https://www.zerobin.net/?8dbf8b6851638650#jgiBQVellcstBuceocBo9mvRXsCFErBOs1O7PXnqxNY=20:49
r0kk3rznot quite20:51
cvp_or is it possible to do that in one line, like so: settings.setValue("accountServer", server.text, port.text, priority.text)20:51
r0kk3rzthe "accountServer" is like a variable name20:51
r0kk3rzneeds to be different for each one20:51
r0kk3rzyou could try and do it in one line, but i wouldnt recommend doing so20:51
cvp_ok20:52
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cvp_I can instead account server "invent" something else or somewhere getting fixed?20:55
cvp_e.g. portServer , prioServer20:55
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r0kk3rzyeah20:57
cvp_and for config.accountEnabled = true ?21:00
r0kk3rzsame thing21:00
cvp_do i need really this line ?21:00
cvp_is this enough  ? settings.setValue("accountEnabled", true)21:01
r0kk3rzyeah21:02
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cvp_but the rest of settings.qmlis fine ?21:10
r0kk3rzwell you'll need some lines to read from the settings into your textfields21:11
cvp_js ?21:11
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cvp_r0kk3rz, is this line correcty settings.value("accountServer").toInt(); ?21:24
cvp_*correcty = right21:24
r0kk3rzcvp_: im not sure you want to cast that to an int21:25
r0kk3rzyou're storing an IP address right?21:26
cvp_yes , the ip from raspberry pi with hyperion21:26
r0kk3rzyeah leave that as a string21:27
cvp_with toInt ?21:27
r0kk3rzremove the .toint21:27
cvp_than only settings.value("accountServer"); without ()21:28
r0kk3rzyep21:28
cvp_and can i put this line under the setValue line ?21:28
cvp_sorry for the many questions ^^21:29
r0kk3rzthats ok, you seem to have a bit to learn though21:30
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r0kk3rzinstead of programming by copypasta21:31
cvp_:)21:31
cvp_https://www.zerobin.net/?94e72f06214da2e4#z5Li7i0YaSYKNQNjcJidX8r10xp6pqlVguRdENXx/OE=21:32
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r0kk3rzyou're going to want to change those value lines21:34
r0kk3rzbecause a) they're not being read into anything, and b) they're in your save function21:35
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Accewe should remove the copy and paste function from beginning programmers system.. Reach level 80 to unlock (or program your own copy-paste if you can)21:47
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cvp_i am back... can i open a function readAccount() to put the settings.value lines in to ?21:56
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cvp_... i think its enough today for me and my head ^^21:57
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r0kk3rzcvp_: you are the programmer, you are god in your program22:01
r0kk3rzif you say 'let there be a function called readAccount' then it will be so22:01
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cvp_:)22:08
cvp_good night and thanks for help :))22:09
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aquelloi have an app with a timer that it's stopped when the device is locked, is possible to make the timer don't stop when the device is locked?22:52
M4rtinKaquello: sure, example: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-keepalive/blob/master/examples/qml/keepalive.qml22:53
M4rtinKaquello: and note that the needed API is of course not Harbor compatible :-)22:54
aquellois any possibility to make it harbor compatible?22:56
M4rtinKI don't think so22:57
M4rtinKeven if you bundled the needed modules22:57
M4rtinKI'm not sure if they allow apps that inhibit device suspend to the store22:57
M4rtinKno problem with doing that on OpenRepos of course22:58
M4rtinKbut maybe try to ask Jolla about that22:58
M4rtinKit is IMHO a rather big limitation and they should do something about it22:58
ShadowJKYou'd hope that eventually it would be allowed, but the user would get a big warning about batterylife22:59
aquelloits about some kind of alarm23:02
aquellobut without that will not work :(23:02
M4rtinKShadowJK: well, whatever23:02
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M4rtinKShadowJK: maybe they would need to actually QA apps then, not just run them through a regexp :)23:02
ShadowJKor maybe a permission system that wouldn't be accept all / deny all23:03
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M4rtinKyeah, I really hope it won't be like this once they have one23:03
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M4rtinKthat's really stupid23:03
M4rtinKBB10 is rather well done23:04
M4rtinKusers can grant/deny individual capabilities - at installation time and at any time afterwards23:04
M4rtinKand the specs for developers say that the app needs to be able to survive individual or even all capabilities not being granted23:05
ShadowJKWould be cool if you could see how often a certain priviledged operation is used, too23:05
M4rtinKthat's IMHO how it should be done23:05
M4rtinKwell, not sure how applicable would that be23:06
M4rtinKsome are atomic, some are "acquire and use"23:06
M4rtinKetc.23:06
M4rtinKbut yeah, why not23:06
M4rtinKstill I like the current state too23:06
ShadowJKI mean if it's a "send sms" capability, you'd want to see how many times app had done it23:07
M4rtinKrather not have a permission system rather than having a bad one23:07
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M4rtinKoh, right - that could be meassured23:07
M4rtinK*measured23:07
sakustarandroid has the best system23:08
sakustar"root phone to see permissions" :D23:08
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sakustaratleast the new play store way of grouping permissions (unless it was changed back)23:10
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n-iCehello, can I use the OS?23:41
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