Friday, 2015-04-03

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PaulfraOSAAHi00:13
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PaulfraOSAAIs it possible to develop for the sailfish without  doing the entire SDK download, when I already have the QT5.2 toolkit installed?00:16
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PaulfraOSAADoes anybody have a spare devices.xml? It somehow failed to install, and now I can't deploy to the emulator02:37
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SaberAltriaHello03:07
SaberAltriaquestions about patchmanager03:08
SaberAltriaif I make and patch, for example, modify an app icon03:08
SaberAltriabut I found that if the users don't have that app03:09
SaberAltriathe patchmanager just simply "failed to patch"03:09
SaberAltriarather just ignore that and error and patch other available app icons03:09
SaberAltriaHow to solve this problem?03:09
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walokraInteresting. after updating sdk I now get "main.qml: File not found" why deploying RPM. It worked before. (same problem in mailing list which had no apparent solution)07:53
walokraIf it works, don't update it :)07:53
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Nicd-maybe someone should update the topic because it's 1502 now08:27
Nicd-not 141208:27
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jaacoppiit's 201508:44
jaacoppiseriously though, I've had problems with the arm kit disappearing in the SDK today. It's happened 5 times already08:45
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walokrahmm, looks I had wrong defattr in yaml which resulted to not "finding" main.qml. It worked before and doesn't work without setting attrs.09:31
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sledgesStskeeps: op pls10:27
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stoxxi'm having a hard time locating estimates on sailfish 2.0 on the internet10:49
coderusstoxx: ETA ASAP10:53
r0kk3rzstoxx: 'when its done'10:53
stoxxsoon(tm) yes10:53
r0kk3rzbut not a duke nukem forever 'when its done'10:53
r0kk3rzbut more realistically, 'when the tablet ships' is a good estimate10:53
stoxxwhat if i'm not looking into a tablet but a phone with landscape+qwerty10:54
stoxx"go read some mod forum nerd"10:55
r0kk3rzthats what i mean10:55
Yanielit is the same OS for the tablet and phone10:55
r0kk3rzthe tablet needs sfos2.0 to run properly10:55
r0kk3rzso the phone will likely get it around the same time10:56
r0kk3rzgive or take a month10:56
stoxxyes i gather enough that it will most obviously be available10:56
stoxxand hopefully keyboards will ship as well10:56
r0kk3rzwell thats up to dirk10:56
stoxxi've only waited a year or so, what's a few months :)10:56
stoxxyes10:56
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stoxxits just, you know, hard, i'm here in the "shut up and take my money" -mode10:58
stoxx*+already10:58
Nicd-stoxx: did you order the keyboard already?10:58
stoxxnot yet10:59
stoxxneither did i order the/a phone yet10:59
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stoxxactually started googling an hour ago11:00
Nicd-well, there's only 54 kbs left11:00
Nicd-tohkbds that is11:00
r0kk3rzyeah, i wouldnt count on them being generally available after the kickstarter round11:01
stoxxso it's like a collectors item11:01
stoxxlimited edition11:01
r0kk3rzyou'd have to talk with dirk on that11:02
Nicd-yeah, because they only have materials for so many11:02
Nicd-and it's all a community effort by 3 guys11:02
r0kk3rzyeah jump in #jollatohkbd if you arent already and chat with dirkvl11:03
Nicd-but he just left :P11:04
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r0kk3rzlol so he did11:09
r0kk3rzbut he'll be back11:09
stoxx* must resist temptation to complain about colors11:10
stoxx:)11:10
r0kk3rzeither say stoxx i would get in fast if you really really want a keyboard, or talk to dirk about any general availabillity after the KS round has been delivered11:10
Nicd-well you're late to the party :P11:10
Nicd-some of the colors are not available anymore11:10
Nicd-for example black TOH cover11:10
r0kk3rzbut im pretty sure on the TMO thread he said that was unlikely11:10
stoxxyes i should have been there before any color vote took place11:10
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Nicd-I'm waiting for a black-black-kelo :)11:11
stoxxhm, looks i need to get some black paint11:11
stoxx*like11:11
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r0kk3rzhonestly, it would be a good idea to get a layer of 2 pack on the 3d printed parts anyway11:12
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r0kk3rzbut you can always order some new bits from shapeways in whatever colour you want11:13
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stoxxnot the worst idea i guess11:17
r0kk3rzpretty sure thats where the bits are coming from in the first place11:18
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jaacoppidamn, libjson-c is not allowed in Harbour. I assumed it was since the sdk provides it. Need to learn how to ship the lib with my rpm12:17
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Nicd-what do you need it for?12:24
jaacoppifor parsing json12:24
jaacoppiin c12:24
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r0kk3rzjaacoppi: its pretty easy, find the .so file and add it in using qtcreator12:28
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jaacoppihow to add it in qtcreator?12:32
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jaacoppiright click -> add library?12:33
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r0kk3rzyup12:37
r0kk3rzyou can google what to write into your .pro file, or you can let QTC do it for you12:37
jaacoppiand QTC will copy the proper .so to the proper place in the rpm?12:38
coderusif you writte proper qmake commands to o so12:39
coderusto do*12:39
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coderusSfietKonstantinW: ping12:57
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SfietKonstantinWcoderus: pong13:02
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jaacoppijust realized there's a json parser in QtCore. Might as well use that13:08
SfietKonstantinWjaacoppi: new in Qt513:09
SfietKonstantinW<313:09
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jaacoppiI'm new to Qt so everything is new for me13:14
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: good idea to check the Qt docs for everything first13:15
r0kk3rzas more often than not, theres something you can use to do what you want13:16
jaacoppigood to know13:17
jaacoppiI'm learning Qt/QML/Sailfish slowly. Just wish people would comment the actual app more. ~100 downloads and 3 comments is a bit frustrating, but I guess that's how it is for all the other developers as well13:21
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r0kk3rzjaacoppi: what app?13:24
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jaacoppihttps://openrepos.net/content/jaacoppi/comic-sailor13:25
r0kk3rzbut yes, ive received few comments on sirensong, from ~600 or so downloads on the latest release13:25
r0kk3rzif nobody complains, thats a good sign13:25
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: also a good idea to build your releases on MerOBS13:26
r0kk3rzhttp://sailfishwayfarer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/building-apps-with-merobs-and-github.html << is a guide i wrote on how to set up webhooks from github for merobs builds13:27
jaacoppiI saw that a few weeks ago but at that point I was strugling to understand QML & QtCreator, didn't want to start learning yet another thing13:28
* nib starred sirensong on github :313:28
r0kk3rzthanks nib :)13:28
jaacoppiI'd try it but I really don't care about playing music on a phone. I've got my home stereo equipment for that13:29
nibr0kk3rz: instead thank you for sources:)13:29
jaacoppiI do use streaming radios, tunein radio is awesome, for example13:29
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: understood, its all a bit of a learning curve, but its really not that complicated and a good idea for releases13:29
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: i play music on my phone all the time, hence why i wrote the app13:30
jaacoppiyeah, people have different needs & wants13:30
coderusi'm listening  music on phone only in car when i'm connecting phone to aux in :)13:31
r0kk3rzcoderus: thats my main use case as well13:31
nibr0kk3rz: >> SirenSong-Media-Player.pro.user gitignore it;)13:31
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r0kk3rzyeah theres probably a bunch of stuff in there that doesnt need to be, i was learning git and qt and qtc all at once13:33
nibr0kk3rz: its a your local qt creator config for your win host as far as I can see, if you wanna share settings use pro.shared feature13:34
nib:)13:34
* nib wanna some free time to implement audio app for grooveshark and vk.com:(13:37
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r0kk3rznib: potential to add new library interfaces to sirensong for things like that13:44
r0kk3rzprovided that qtmediaplayer can deal with the stream urls13:44
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nibr0kk3rz: I want to have offline audio cache, so streams not a problem. I even have a half implemented c++ implementation for vk.com client + abstract item models + sort filter proxy models, just mumbles to create some nasty qml Ui:(13:51
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r0kk3rzyaay nginx builds14:34
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* nib wanna mail app with "threads" view:( otherwise its quit hard to read mailing lists from phone:)14:43
jaacoppiwhat's the best way to tell Jolla about broken/Old documentation? https://harbour.jolla.com/faq has a line saying "The D-Bus API will be made unavailable to 3rd party applications (probably in update 5)" that might need to be updated14:46
coderusjaacoppi: it means qml dbus api14:47
coderuswhich is still unavailable14:47
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r0kk3rzwoo nginx works!14:48
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r0kk3rzand seems to use a negligable amount of ram14:49
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jaacoppicoderus: if it's unavailabe the FAQ should read "is unavailable since" instead of "will be unavailable", right?14:50
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: post it up on tjc14:55
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coderusjaacoppi: ah :D15:12
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coderuswell, i don't tknow what they mean exactly :D15:12
SfietKonstantinW:D15:13
SfietKonstantinWnice catch coderus15:13
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coderusSfietKonstantinW: what?15:18
SfietKonstantinWwill be unaviailable15:18
coderusSfietKonstantinW: jaacoppi15:23
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r0kk3rzhmmm transdrone doesnt really integrate well with sailfish19:25
r0kk3rznot that its very surprising19:26
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r0kk3rzneed to write a silica app that can handle torrent file mimetype19:29
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r0kk3rzand talks xmlrpc to rtorrent19:34
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narchielove the new not responding patch23:20
narchiesdk23:20
narchiewhen can we use pprefix spaces in SMS23:20
narchie201523:20
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