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| taixzo__ | Is there a way to prevent Sailfish OS from closing an app when there's a lot of them open? | 04:49 |
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| Stskeeps | taixzo__: well, it's a bit hairy since you're trying to make a daemon process in practice? | 04:52 |
| taixzo__ | right. | 04:52 |
| Stskeeps | taixzo__: out of curiousity, what kind of latency do you get from julius/pocketsphinx in recognising? | 04:52 |
| Stskeeps | taixzo__: i think you should mail the development mailing list and get a good discussion about background process like things | 04:53 |
| taixzo__ | It depends on the ambient noise level. In a indoor room recognition is <1 sec. Standing by a busy road it took over 30 sec to recognize (and recognition quality was poor due to the background noise) | 04:54 |
| taixzo__ | Stskeeps: where do I find the mailing list? | 04:55 |
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| Stskeeps | https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel | 04:55 |
| Stskeeps | taixzo__: and it doesn't have a setting like 'give me your best shot at what was said after XXX milliseconds'? | 04:56 |
| taixzo__ | It does, but I haven't implemented it yet | 04:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 04:57 |
| Stskeeps | looking for something that'll give best shot at what words were said after sufficiently little amount of time :P | 04:57 |
| Stskeeps | i always thought julius was an interface on top of pocketsphinx, glad to see i was wrong.. | 04:58 |
| taixzo__ | right now it waits to be sure you're finished speeking, I'll add the ability to terminate via button press | 04:59 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 04:59 |
| taixzo__ | no, Julius is a separate system. Unfortunately, originally Japanese, so while there is a continuous speech model for Japanese there is not one for English yet | 05:00 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 05:00 |
| taixzo__ | that's not necessarily a bad thing given thay Pocketsphinx's continuous mode was virtually unuseable | 05:01 |
| taixzo__ | but if the VoxForge project ever does complete I hope to make a speech input option for the Jolla keyboard | 05:02 |
| taixzo__ | which, again, would work better if Sailfish didn't randomly kill the Julius server | 05:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah probably | 05:03 |
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| Stskeeps | julius quality good enough in the continous speech model ? | 05:06 |
| * Stskeeps wonders idly what these commercial speech corpora mentioned are | 05:08 | |
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| taixzo__ | It's reportedly good in the free Japanese model | 05:22 |
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| * taixzo__ cannot speak nor read Japanese so cannot comment on accuracy | 05:22 | |
| Stskeeps | nod | 05:22 |
| Stskeeps | from a commercial pov i'm probably more likely to use nuance's web services or their vocon hybrid offering | 05:23 |
| taixzo__ | right | 05:23 |
| Stskeeps | (sadly) | 05:24 |
| taixzo__ | from what I understand, nuance google etc are using the same algorithms as Julius and Pocketsphinx, just with much better training data | 05:25 |
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| Stskeeps | might be, at least i thought dragon was somewhat independently developed back in long ago days | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit like HERE positioning data.. algorithms to do wifi positioning are well known but the dataset is what counts | 05:38 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 05:38 |
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| kimmoli | wtf github rpm says Unfortunately, we don't support that file type. Try zipping it. | 08:06 |
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| Acce | Julius is great for speech recognition, I used to use it for voice commands in Japanese for changing volume and starting / stopping music player when I still had wireless headset | 08:32 |
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| mtfk | how to add custome library into the build vm? | 08:42 |
| mtfk | I just compile the libgato but I am not able to use it from my application | 08:43 |
| mtfk | I am getting ld cannot find -lgato | 08:43 |
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| mtfk | it seems that the libgato was installed in the system but not in the sb2 | 08:49 |
| kimmoli | sb2 -t mer-target-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R zypper in yourpackage.rpm ? | 08:50 |
| kimmoli | good summary of these installs http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.fi/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html | 08:52 |
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| mtfk | do you know maybe where I will find the rpm package when I will build it from qtcreator? | 08:56 |
| mtfk | because if you will choose to deploy it via rpm then it is installed directly on the emulator vm | 08:56 |
| mtfk | so I need to fetch it from there and then try to install on the build vm | 08:57 |
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| jaacoppi | mtfk: I think by default it's in ~/build-$packagename-MerSDK_SailfishOS_$target | 09:08 |
| jaacoppi | if you do deploy by building an rpm package | 09:08 |
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| mtfk | on the build vm or the emulator vm ? | 09:13 |
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| mtfk | because I checked nemo, merskd and root user and I could not find anything like rpm package | 09:15 |
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| mtfk | there is rpmbuild directory but it is always empty | 09:19 |
| jaacoppi | on your local hard drive where qtcreator is installed | 09:21 |
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| mtfk | right, thanks! | 09:25 |
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| Acce | the vm mounts your hard drive and builds there, not on a virtual drive | 09:41 |
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| coderus | One man reminded me of an old odea about creating twitch and youtibe channels for sailfish development and other sailfish stuff which can be useful as video guides. So, tell me if you want to subscribe to this channel or not and tell me why please. | 11:40 |
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| coderus | so, how is to record jolla screnn or just see what happening in phone display remotely? | 13:08 |
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| locusf | coderus: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-recorder | 13:15 |
| locusf | coderus: https://github.com/mer-qa/mervncserver | 13:15 |
| locusf | you probably gotta do some work on them to get them to twitch | 13:16 |
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| mtfk | is there a way to run applicaiton from root? I ma having problems with getting access to bt lescan | 13:34 |
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| coderus | locusf: no, i just them to my desktop | 13:38 |
| coderus | mtfk: devel-su? | 13:38 |
| mtfk | hmm good idea to test it like that but anyway I need some solution which will allow me to get access to the bt lescan from the app after user will install it | 13:39 |
| coderus | mtfk: suid? | 13:40 |
| mtfk | and how this works? | 13:41 |
| coderus | in your spec file you need to set 4755 chmod for binary, and in main cpp file call seuid/setgid stuff | 13:42 |
| locusf | coderus: hopefully that vnc server works, look at the lipstick-recorder branch if you get stuck, I haven't tried them myself | 13:42 |
| coderus | locusf: yeah, i will try it soon | 13:42 |
| mtfk | coderus: ok, I will try with it | 13:46 |
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| mtfk | coderus: btw. do you know a way to run the application from the console (like ssh to jolla and run app from root) - I have problem with setting proper display to make it work | 13:48 |
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| coderus | locusf: running but can't connect | 13:55 |
| coderus | locusf: who can help me to debug that? | 13:55 |
| coderus | mtfk: what you mean? | 13:56 |
| locusf | coderus: I dunno if doberman is still working for Jolla | 13:56 |
| mtfk | coderus: I installed my application on jolla device, now I ssh to it and want to run it like: /usr/bin/myapp but I am getting the error Failed to create display | 13:57 |
| coderus | mtfk: you doing something wrong then | 13:57 |
| locusf | coderus: giucam made the original modifications to lipstick to allow recording | 13:58 |
| coderus | giucam: ^? :) | 13:58 |
| mtfk | coderus: I just wanted to test my app as a root by call devel-su and then start app | 13:58 |
| giucam | coderus: uh? | 13:59 |
| coderus | most of apps can't be started as root | 13:59 |
| coderus | try with devel-su -p first | 13:59 |
| giucam | it should work but i don't know how to use the vnc server | 13:59 |
| mtfk | coderus: hmm starting it from regular user works, so the problem is only on root | 14:00 |
| mtfk | coderus: do you know maybe what needs to be done to start app as a root in this way? | 14:01 |
| mtfk | maybe adding user to group root ;) | 14:01 |
| coderus | giucam: okay :( i need help with vnc server | 14:02 |
| giucam | coderus: kontio should know | 14:02 |
| coderus | mtfk: using suid | 14:02 |
| coderus | kontio: ^? :) | 14:02 |
| coderus | mtfk: test with privileged first | 14:02 |
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| coderus | log of vnc server not showing anything suspicious :( https://gist.github.com/aaa5d7f5793c4897c041 | 14:05 |
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| Acce | hmm, the vncserver worked for me | 14:12 |
| Acce | I just followed the build instructions and used tightvnc as viewer | 14:13 |
| coderus | i'm using ssvnc | 14:14 |
| locusf | and its usb network only? | 14:14 |
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| coderus | locusf: what yyou mean? | 14:18 |
| Acce | only works through usb cable after choosing "developer mode" when plugging the cable | 14:19 |
| locusf | coderus: it only works via usb network, as there is no password | 14:19 |
| coderus | i tried both wifi and usb, same result | 14:21 |
| mtfk | coderus: it worked with setting suid thanks a lot | 14:21 |
| coderus | mtfk: :) | 14:22 |
| coderus | mtfk: try with privileged group, not root | 14:22 |
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| coderus | locusf: Acce: vnc log: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4dacff4cf94d1dbc5d7b | 14:27 |
| mtfk | coderus: I am not sure what do you mean by that, but to use bt lescan I have to be root (there is a call in lescan which require root permission) | 14:27 |
| coderus | mtfk: okay then | 14:30 |
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| kimmoli | mtfk: you have a gui in lescan? | 14:30 |
| coderus | then you need to separate it to daemon working with lescan and gui | 14:30 |
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| mtfk | coderus: do you know what is the syntax for chmod 4755 in spec? | 14:31 |
| mtfk | just wanted to set it inside the project | 14:31 |
| Acce | coderus: I'm not sure, but since it says security type is invalid, I would try other vnc viewer to see if it's problem with ssvnc | 14:31 |
| coderus | mtfk: %attr(4755, root, root) %{_bindir}/* | 14:31 |
| mtfk | thx! | 14:31 |
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| coderus | Acce: connected to it with no-ssh option :D | 14:34 |
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| Acce | coderus: great :) | 15:03 |
| coderus | yeah. this finger thumb is awkward :D:D | 15:04 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: mer vnc server on the phone? didn it require rebuilding lipstick? | 15:08 |
| coderus | kimmoli: it already contains fixies | 15:09 |
| kimmoli | ah | 15:09 |
| coderus | and it works :D | 15:09 |
| coderus | http://i.imgur.com/NRVBYGS.png | 15:09 |
| kimmoli | do you intend to stream jolla on twitch or wut? | 15:09 |
| coderus | stream desktop and just have window with phone :) | 15:09 |
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| coderus | i'm not using emulator, so i wanna show my phone instead | 15:10 |
| kimmoli | ok, will need to give a shot to that too | 15:10 |
| kimmoli | i dont have emulator installed | 15:10 |
| kimmoli | btw, can i detect if pulseaudio is playing, so i could delay my own playing to be started after that is finished? | 15:14 |
| kimmoli | as system notifications will force my "player" to volume zero | 15:14 |
| coderus | kimmoli: use resource system | 15:16 |
| kimmoli | ah öh | 15:16 |
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| kimmoli | learning curve again | 15:17 |
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| coderus | go go, http://piratepad.net/OSIjkZUa8d add your ideas for world first live #SailfishOS coding stream! | 15:35 |
| kimmoli | :) | 15:38 |
| toerb | I have a problem with this code https://gist.github.com/toerb/94d3bd56f8a2451166c1 | 15:40 |
| toerb | portrait: https://things.toerb.de/20150503173519.png | 15:40 |
| toerb | landscape: https://things.toerb.de/20150503173531.png | 15:40 |
| toerb | in the landscape not the whole width is used | 15:41 |
| toerb | how can i achieve this? | 15:41 |
| kimmoli | width = parent.width somewehere? | 15:41 |
| kimmoli | or hmm , the wrapping is not following? | 15:42 |
| coderus | toerb: try with Text.StyledText, not Rich on | 15:42 |
| coderus | one* | 15:42 |
| coderus | toerb: and flickable do anchors.fill: page | 15:43 |
| coderus | as it can do unwanted clipping itself | 15:43 |
| toerb | coderus: page and parent should be the same in this context? | 15:44 |
| kimmoli | does Text need a width, or does left/right anchors work properly? in a column they might | 15:44 |
| toerb | coderus: nice StyledText did the trick and solved the problem with the link color also | 15:46 |
| toerb | thank you | 15:47 |
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| coderus | wow wtf. this vnc server eaten all the battery, and phone was on charging! :D | 15:48 |
| kimmoli | clean and lubricate contacts... | 15:50 |
| kimmoli | it is reboot season | 15:50 |
| coderus | :D | 15:50 |
| coderus | what are you talknig about :D | 15:50 |
| toerb | sounds like a song | 15:51 |
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| coderus | toerb: btw, page and parent is not the same | 15:53 |
| coderus | children if page is goes to special clipping component which does rotation and other nice stuff | 15:54 |
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| toerb | coderus: okay, so are there negative points for using page instead of parent? | 16:02 |
| coderus | toerb: just to get geometry no, for anchoring yes :) | 16:04 |
| coderus | in your case solution was styledtext, so nevermind :) | 16:04 |
| toerb | okay^^ | 16:05 |
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| coderus | http://piratepad.net/OSIjkZUa8d agenda is full. i can start streaming asap, decide time when most of you can watch it :) | 16:32 |
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| kimmoli | well, i think i'll watch a movie | 17:57 |
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| Acce | I'm watching a movie also | 17:58 |
| Acce | there's this coder who does something called "Sailfish OS application development" | 17:59 |
| Acce | no idea how it's going to end | 17:59 |
| Acce | or start | 17:59 |
| kimmoli | yeah plot was on piratepad | 18:00 |
| Acce | spoiler alert! | 18:00 |
| kimmoli | if he will handle those 8 chapters more that scratch on surface, it will be morning before it ends | 18:02 |
| locusf | :) | 18:04 |
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| kimmoli | ffs, my display driver crashes with twitch. | 18:05 |
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| Acce | well, it has been about 50 mins and in second topic now :) | 18:52 |
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| toerb | how can i check if my build app is stripped or not? | 20:56 |
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| Acce | stripped? from debug symbols? | 21:02 |
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| Stskeeps | 'file' | 21:06 |
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