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| taixzo | Is there a Python API to get the user's contacts? | 00:36 |
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| taixzo | To answer my own question for anyone else's benefit, the contacts database is in .local/share/system/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db | 04:09 |
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| Yaniel | you could check if there is something QLocalStorage-related in PyOtherSide | 04:35 |
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| BlueMagma | Hi, I'm here to report a problem with Sailfish IDE on windows | 07:52 |
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| BlueMagma | It seems that the latest version of the IDE are really slow on windows | 07:52 |
| BlueMagma | but I don't mean slow like it take a few seconds | 07:52 |
| BlueMagma | I mean slow like it can freeze for minuts while doing a random click in the view | 07:53 |
| BlueMagma | I tested the update on two different computer | 07:54 |
| BlueMagma | and met the same issue on both | 07:54 |
| BlueMagma | these two computer were using a previous release which was working perfectly fine | 07:54 |
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| Armadillo | BlueMagma: try to update Virtualbox to the latest version, this solved it for me some months ago | 08:02 |
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| BlueMagma_ | Armadillo: Ok, thank you a lot, I'll try that and come back if it doesn't work | 08:04 |
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| Armadillo | sure, if that doesn't help, there are some other things you can try to track the problem down | 08:07 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:20 |
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| Armadillo | any idea how to trigger RemorePopups on application close, for the RemorseItem there is a trigger() method which should do this, but I'm mostly using RemorsePopups which don't have a trigger method | 10:29 |
| Armadillo | the goal is to finish all running remorse jobs on application shutdown or when the application is sent to background | 10:29 |
| coderus | Armadillo: i always thought remorse actions are executed immediately when destroying. Did you checked it before? | 10:31 |
| Armadillo | they don't | 10:31 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/better-sailfishos-qmltypes/blob/Sdk1502/Sailfish/Silica/RemorsePopup.qml#L189 | 10:32 |
| Armadillo | hm | 10:32 |
| Armadillo | I just checked with the real device | 10:33 |
| coderus | it should work | 10:33 |
| Armadillo | it seems there's a different behaviour between the device and the emulator | 10:33 |
| coderus | can be, yes | 10:33 |
| Armadillo | although I can not check the emulator currently because of problems with virtualbox | 10:33 |
| Armadillo | I'll double check that this evening, thanks for the hint ;) | 10:34 |
| coderus | create test application and we can test it | 10:34 |
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| mgrover | So I've implemented the QAbstractListModel, I have a class that needs to populate the data, but I can't pass the model in due to restrictions on the copy constructor. After trying to pass a pointer in for hours, am about to give up, how do I do it :( | 10:42 |
| coderus | mgrover: what? explain it properly and show your code. | 10:43 |
| mgrover | give me a sec, its time to stick it in a repo | 10:44 |
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| mgrover | so I have a class that gets my data called networkrequest, which is here https://github.com/m4r0v3r/qtNationalRail/blob/master/src/NetworkRequest.cpp | 10:52 |
| mgrover | this is to populate a model called servicemodel created here https://github.com/m4r0v3r/qtNationalRail/blob/master/src/ServiceModel.cpp | 10:52 |
| mgrover | how do I make the two interact since the model is created at the same level as the request, here https://github.com/m4r0v3r/qtNationalRail/blob/master/src/NationalRail.cpp | 10:53 |
| coderus | first i see your request constructor is wrong | 10:55 |
| mgrover | i am also not familiar with c++ | 10:56 |
| coderus | next i'll suggest you to use signal-slot for populating model | 10:56 |
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| mgrover | the way I understand it, when data is returned from the webservice, I send out a signal to the model? | 10:57 |
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| coderus | you emittin signal | 10:57 |
| coderus | and connect this signal to populate slot of your model | 10:58 |
| coderus | do it inside your rail | 10:58 |
| mgrover | do you mena my NationalRail.cpp? | 10:59 |
| coderus | yes | 10:59 |
| coderus | the place where you creating objects | 10:59 |
| mgrover | okay so a signal inside networkrequest, a slot inside model, and the connect inside nationalrail | 11:01 |
| coderus | yes. should work better | 11:02 |
| coderus | and you missed return in main | 11:04 |
| mgrover | that would take me onto my next issue, the population of a qml listview of somesort. I assume as long as I use dataChanged() in the model the xml view should reload the model itself | 11:04 |
| mgrover | yeah the main still isn't done, none of it is really | 11:04 |
| coderus | btw, why you not using xmlpatterns for parsing xml nodes easily? | 11:07 |
| mgrover | because I didnt know it existed? | 11:07 |
| mgrover | is it faster than QDomDocument? | 11:08 |
| mgrover | I assume itd be more precise as well | 11:08 |
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| coderus | its most faster way afaik | 11:08 |
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| mgrover | thanks for the help, not just here but your mitakuuluu code was very useful when attempting to create an app | 11:10 |
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| Armadillo | coderus: I just double checked it, on sending to background the remorse actions are finished after the timer finished, but on application close they are killed | 11:19 |
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| mgrover | HOYL SHIT IT WORKSSS | 11:37 |
| mgrover | excuse my language | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | what works | 11:38 |
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| mgrover | nothing crazy, just signals and slots | 11:49 |
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| mgrover | maybe am just surprised at how easy it was | 11:50 |
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| coderus | Armadillo: means on application exit remorse action not executed? | 11:53 |
| Armadillo | yes | 11:54 |
| Armadillo | I'm currently trying to bypass that by sending trigger() on exit, but no results till now | 11:55 |
| coderus | do not allow to close window when remorse is active then :) | 11:57 |
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| Armadillo | haha, a very pragmatic solution :D | 12:00 |
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| mgrover | am using a qml list model to display 2500 strings, exactly how the searchpage in the component gallery does. if I move to a c++ model will performance improve? since when I load the page it takes a few moments to load | 18:00 |
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| coderus | mgrover: performance for what operation? for loading no, not much. | 18:03 |
| mgrover | yes loading | 18:03 |
| coderus | if you doing search you must do it with c++ abstract + filtermodel | 18:04 |
| mgrover | well the search works well, only a tiny amount of "lag" but its the issue when I load the page in the first place, it takes 3 seconds to load the page which feels like too long | 18:06 |
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| coderus | what is the source of data? | 18:14 |
| mal- | coderus: is there some reason not to use the qml search system? | 18:15 |
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| coderus | mal-: qml have no "search system" | 18:18 |
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| mgrover | javascript property | 18:20 |
| mgrover | javascript array even | 18:21 |
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| coderus | using for loop for 2500 items to filter it? cool idea, isn't it? :D | 18:21 |
| mal- | coderus: the way it's used in the search example in the components examples program | 18:22 |
| mgrover | the filtering doesnt lag | 18:22 |
| mgrover | its the loading | 18:22 |
| coderus | mal-: it's example for peoples not using C++ or don't know how to use it properly, and it qml example at all | 18:22 |
| coderus | mgrover: where you get array from? | 18:23 |
| mgrover | hardcoded | 18:23 |
| coderus | can you show code? | 18:23 |
| mgrover | its exactly the same as the component example | 18:23 |
| sjtoik | i when the code gets rough, who you gonna call? call return | 18:23 |
| coderus | mgrover: you might love WorkerScript helper for javascript models | 18:24 |
| mgrover | i see, but a c++ model would be the most effecient way to do it? and best practice? | 18:24 |
| coderus | mgrover: you need to test it yourself | 18:26 |
| mgrover | right, time to create it then | 18:26 |
| coderus | actually for js static model you can use qml only, but i don't know how you parsing/assiging it | 18:26 |
| mgrover | property variant | 18:27 |
| coderus | mgrover: can't show code? | 18:27 |
| coderus | mgrover: and do not use property variant | 18:27 |
| coderus | variant is QVariant, use property var, it's js var | 18:28 |
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| mgrover | ill commit soon | 18:29 |
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| mgrover | code: https://github.com/m4r0v3r/qtNationalRail/blob/master/qml/pages/LocationSearch.qml | 18:41 |
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| mgrover | hmmm this string wont dispaly | 19:03 |
| mgrover | property variant | 19:03 |
| mgrover | not that | 19:03 |
| mgrover | "Abergele & Pensarn - AGL", | 19:03 |
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| mgrover | properly | 19:04 |
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| coderus | mgrover: 2-3 seconds takes loading QML | 19:15 |
| coderus | it can't be faster | 19:16 |
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| mgrover | is there no way to make it faster? | 19:20 |
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| mgrover | c++ time i guess | 19:21 |
| mgrover | qml is usually instant though? or do i need to put it in a dialog | 19:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | 'instant' | 19:40 |
| r0kk3rz | its mostly a v8 javascript engine, its not magic | 19:41 |
| mgrover | ill make a video soon | 19:41 |
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| mgrover | its not fluid | 19:41 |
| r0kk3rz | if its not fluid that usually means you're blocking the event loop somewhere | 19:41 |
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| mgrover | would loading a model with 2500 strings do that? | 19:42 |
| Yaniel | may I laugh | 19:42 |
| mgrover | yes? | 19:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | 2500 strings from where? | 19:44 |
| mgrover | i could probably not display the list, and only display the search results | 19:44 |
| r0kk3rz | the code? remote server? | 19:44 |
| mgrover | hardcoded | 19:44 |
| mgrover | property vart | 19:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | mgrover: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtqml-models-listmodel.html | 19:45 |
| r0kk3rz | look at the threaded list model with worker script example | 19:46 |
| mgrover | in the virtual machine it works fluidly, on the Jolla I select on the pulley menu, 2-3 seconds later it loads, and on the Nexus 5 its a 1-2sec and then load | 19:46 |
| r0kk3rz | means you can load your list off the main thread | 19:46 |
| mgrover | ah perfect | 19:47 |
| coderus | mgrover: https://github.com/CODeRUS/model-test | 19:49 |
| r0kk3rz | thats if you're adverse to cpp that is | 19:49 |
| r0kk3rz | which you shouldnt be | 19:49 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: stop answering our conversation :) | 19:50 |
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| mgrover | am not happily code in whatever, just curious whats the best way to do it | 19:50 |
| coderus | mgrover: cpp way works with no delay and proper filtering, etc. | 19:50 |
| mgrover | ill give it a shot cheers | 19:51 |
| mgrover | so c++ is faster than qml in this regard | 19:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | coderus: if you want to have a private conversation, its best to have it privately | 19:52 |
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| coderus | r0kk3rz: i mean mgrover is awaiting an answer :) | 19:54 |
| coderus | and your solution is just to show ui before load model, still same 2-3 seconds are needed to populate model | 19:55 |
| coderus | mgrover: c++ is always faster for backend | 19:55 |
| coderus | while you not trying to move qml components from cpp side :) | 19:55 |
| mgrover | well i think technically both still work if you load every 100 entries | 19:56 |
| coderus | mgrover: what you mean | 19:56 |
| coderus | ? | 19:56 |
| mgrover | for the qml only code, if you load the UI and say 100 entries | 19:57 |
| mgrover | and then keep loading every set of interval | 19:57 |
| mgrover | more than 100 though since that would take 25secs for all of it | 19:57 |
| coderus | :D | 19:57 |
| coderus | just use cpp man | 19:57 |
| mgrover | dont worry I plan to lol | 19:58 |
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| lukedirtwalker | mgrover: why don't you use sqlite database | 20:00 |
| lukedirtwalker | I do that in QTimetable application | 20:01 |
| mgrover | laziness? | 20:01 |
| mgrover | i was planning to use one to store users favourite stations | 20:02 |
| lukedirtwalker | You can put in the same, just use a flag | 20:02 |
| mgrover | hmmm hadn't thought of that | 20:03 |
| lukedirtwalker | then order results by flag | 20:03 |
| mgrover | well the favourites page would only show favourites and search would be neutral | 20:03 |
| mgrover | the sqlite is a very good idea :D | 20:05 |
| lukedirtwalker | mgrover: checkout QTimetable you can search very fast for station, and it has 25000 entries ;) | 20:06 |
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| mgrover | hmmm am very tempted to simply "borrow" your UI :P | 20:07 |
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| lukedirtwalker | feel free, for the sqlite you could even split at "-" then you can search for both | 20:09 |
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| mgrover | well i required the seocn dhalf | 20:11 |
| Dodo | but why is sqlite so much more efficient than reaching a in simple array ? | 20:11 |
| mgrover | i was going to still use cpp and supply data from sqlite | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | Dodo: because database engine | 20:11 |
| Dodo | r0kk3rz: ya ok, it's made for this, but I was just wondering is there's a major trick used to be so much faster. Another stuff to read about :) | 20:15 |
| r0kk3rz | Dodo: a basic trick is a sorted hashtable of the results | 20:15 |
| r0kk3rz | takes a bit of pre-processing, but makes lookup super quick | 20:15 |
| Dodo | hmmm ok, thanks :) | 20:18 |
| mgrover | lukedirtwalker: is QTimetable on github? | 20:19 |
| lukedirtwalker | mgrover: no I will have to open source it some time. currently it's a private bitbucket repo | 20:20 |
| mgrover | ah fair enough, still nice ui design :) | 20:20 |
| lukedirtwalker | mgrover: I can give you the ui for sure, the other part I have to check | 20:21 |
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| mgrover | fair enough :) | 20:27 |
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| mgrover | in the end, on a Jolla the c++ model took the same amount, but now am able to load the data easily from a db | 21:29 |
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| taixzo | How do I make an overlay in the ambiance style? | 21:52 |
| taixzo | I want to basically dim my app and show a loading spinner until the loading has finished | 21:52 |
| r0kk3rz | taixzo: you can use a loader element | 21:55 |
| taixzo | How do I make the Loader wait for the python element to finish it's function? | 21:56 |
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| coderus | mgrover: did you checked my code? it loaded data instantly when pressing icon | 22:05 |
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| coderus | taixzo: we do not know how your code is actually works | 22:05 |
| taixzo | coderus: I get that, and after a bit more research it seems that I don't actually want a Loader but rather a BusyIndicator | 22:06 |
| taixzo | I think I figured it out | 22:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | busyindicator is just a ui element | 22:08 |
| r0kk3rz | loader does the actual loading | 22:08 |
| taixzo | r0kk3rz: but I'm not using it to load anything, I'm using it to wait while the Python backend does some processing | 22:09 |
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| taixzo | so it seems like busyindicator is better because I don't have to override default behavior | 22:10 |
| coderus | taixzo:cool :) | 22:10 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: relax | 22:10 |
| coderus | python is already asynchronous stuff | 22:11 |
| coderus | i mean pyotherside | 22:11 |
| coderus | so you just show something dummy at the beginning, and change it to results after processing | 22:12 |
| coderus | carepack: ping | 22:13 |
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| taixzo | Excellent, I now have a loading screen instead of having to guess at when the app could recieve user input. :) | 22:17 |
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| taixzo | Can I access the GPS location from Python? | 22:54 |
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