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| cvp | Good Morning... my Proximity Sensor is broken. If some one call me, the display turns off and i cant accept the call, i have to wait until the caller stop calling me. Is it possible to deactivate this function over terminal? | 06:08 |
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| lainwir3d | \o | 08:48 |
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| enedil | hello | 11:20 |
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| enedil | Is it the right room for porters? | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | #sailfishos-porters | 11:25 |
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| enedil | Stskeeps: thanks | 11:28 |
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| IgorSK | Hello everyone. Can anybody point me at the app (hope it's a single app issue) of this messup? https://together.jolla.com/question/94224/encoding-mess-up-in-contacts-imported-via-mms/ ? | 12:05 |
| IgorSK | Every new MMS is just pushing me to have a look at the sources. | 12:06 |
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| hil | hey everyone. I'm looking to learn how to develop apps for sailfish. Can anyone point me in a good direction? Thanks | 12:20 |
| leszek | hil oldie bug goldie. An old screencast I did way back when SailfishOS SDK came out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hMGNwObx8 Basically not much changed. SailfishOS SDK is a good starting point. If you are new to developing also the projects on openrepos almost all have some upstream git so you can take a look at the code and learn | 12:23 |
| leszek | *but | 12:23 |
| hil | Thanks a lot. I was looking through the examples in the sdk...I didn't even realise other projects would have gits.Thanks for the vid too | 12:25 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | hil: the sample in the sdk are pretty good | 12:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you want help, feel free to ask here too | 12:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | there are a lot of nice devs here :) | 12:32 |
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| hil | SfietKonstantinW, Thanks for the tip. I'm pretty new to all this so you can be sure I'll be bugging u guys a lot | 12:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hil: what's your profile btw ? | 12:35 |
| SfietKonstantinW | more web developer ? more Java C# ? More C++ / C | 12:35 |
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| hil | SfietKonstantinW, profile sounds daunting lol. I started with python 2 months ago and now into C++ | 12:38 |
| hil | i guess python/C++ and a tiny bit C | 12:38 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | ha | 12:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can also develop with python in SFOS | 12:39 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | however, C++ is the recommended way + it is a tricky version of C++ (ie Qt) | 12:39 |
| hil | really? | 12:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yes | 12:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | https://sailfishos.org/develop/tutorials/creating-application-in-python/ | 12:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but, imo | 12:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the best is first to learn qml | 12:40 |
| hil | wow. I guess i missed that. I checked some time ago and i saw only c++ | 12:40 |
| hil | ohh ok. qml then | 12:40 |
| lainwir3d | yeah, qml is mandatory, whether you use python3 or c++ | 12:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | for example, do a note application with qml | 12:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep :) | 12:40 |
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| daitheflu | hil: I would recommend to stick with C++ | 12:41 |
| lainwir3d | qml is mandatory AND awesome | 12:41 |
| veskuh | lainwir3d, +1 | 12:41 |
| Nicd- | SfietKonstantinW: what's tricky about Qt? coding with Qt is easier in many ways than plain C++ | 12:41 |
| lainwir3d | as for python or c++, well I like both and I have both in harbour apps. Depends on my mood ;) | 12:41 |
| hil | lainwir3d, ok...there's no way I'm getting around mandatory | 12:41 |
| lainwir3d | hil: and awesome ! | 12:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Nicd-: it is slightly worse than modern c++ | 12:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | for example, with QObject, it is ahrder to use smart pointers | 12:42 |
| hil | daitheflu, yh that's where i'm leaning anyway | 12:42 |
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| inte | hello | 12:42 |
| inte | how do i contact jolla account support | 12:42 |
| Nicd- | SfietKonstantinW: I've found Qt's containers lessen the amount of pointers a lot | 12:43 |
| inte | i cannot login anymore | 12:43 |
| inte | nowhere | 12:43 |
| inte | somehow my email address seems to be assigned to two different accounts or sth | 12:43 |
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| inte | therefore i cannot login to tjc | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | inte: contacting care | 12:43 |
| inte | do they have an email? | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | jolla.zendesk.co | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | m | 12:44 |
| inte | cannot login to there either | 12:44 |
| hil | just one more thing, how do i see the list of apps in already created for sailfish...in the harbor(I believe that's what it's called) | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | inte: doesn't use jolla accounts afaik | 12:45 |
| Nicd- | hil: you can only browse the store using the phone. there is no web client | 12:45 |
| inte | yeah just realized i still can use zendesk | 12:45 |
| hil | nicd, right...got it | 12:46 |
| inte | Nicd-: yes i know, but i always get an error, "problem with the store" or sth | 12:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Nicd-: when you expose Qt objects to QML you still need pointers. | 12:46 |
| inte | i drop them a request through zendesk and see what they can do | 12:46 |
| inte | hopefully this will not affect my currently pending order for the tablet :) | 12:46 |
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| Nicd- | inte: I didn't say it to you :P | 12:50 |
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| inte | :) | 12:52 |
| inte | well... | 12:53 |
| inte | :) | 12:53 |
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| maikoool | is there a script that can package pyton pypi packages to rpms? | 12:56 |
| maikoool | so i can add these as dependencies of my app? | 12:56 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | maikoool: nope | 13:03 |
| maikoool | :( | 13:05 |
| maikoool | or should i just not make rpms for them but instead bundle them in my app? | 13:05 |
| maikoool | what's the best practice regarding that | 13:05 |
| maikoool | (i'm just getting started) | 13:05 |
| inte | What about dependencies? | 13:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maikoool: if you target harbour, yes, bundle | 13:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | otherwise, be a good packager :) | 13:07 |
| inte | For whom it may concern, I once made a checkinstall rpm which is usefull for packing/installing save-compiled linux apps: https://openrepos.net/content/inte/checkinstall | 13:08 |
| inte | I used it for the stuff I put up on openrepos, like mutt or taskwarrior and it does quite well for this purpose | 13:08 |
| Lipevakala | sv x | 13:09 |
| inte | dont know if it meets harbor requirements, though | 13:09 |
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| inte | Lipevakala: what does sv x stand for? | 13:10 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | inte i remember rpm got the tool inside is called repackage | 13:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM_Guide/ch06s03.html | 13:19 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: I think I need sailfish.img. My Jollas filesystem is too full and cant do anything about it. | 13:20 |
| Lipevakala | inte: I hope not broken broximity sensor! Scteen changed today. Hope not same as pp. | 13:23 |
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| mal- | thp: should the scummvm port at https://github.com/nemomobile-apps/scummvm work on current sailfish? | 13:27 |
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| inte | Lipevakala: so you use "sv x" as an abbreviation for that, interesting :) | 13:28 |
| inte | But good luck anyways! | 13:28 |
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| inte | dr_gogeta86: repackage is not to comfortable though. I never used it but according to the manpage you will still have to repack the rpm in order to use it | 13:29 |
| inte | dr_gogeta86: checkinstall is quite nice, you simply call it instead of calling "make install", and it will ask for the package spec file and build the rpm for you | 13:30 |
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| sgflt | i'm looking for some background info on the experimental sailfishos images for galaxy nexus phones. can anyone tell me why they require a cyanogen-mod installation beforehand? | 13:40 |
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| Armadillo | try #sailfishos-porters | 13:42 |
| sgflt | thanks | 13:43 |
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| Nicd- | sgflt: I think it's because of drivers and to have a baseline to build on | 13:58 |
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| Mikkosssss | coderus | 14:17 |
| inte | cool | 14:24 |
| inte | support is pretty fast through zendesk | 14:24 |
| inte | i just learned i even had three nicks accociated with my email :) | 14:24 |
| inte | no clue how that happend :) | 14:25 |
| Mikkosssss | I get one answer per day from support | 14:25 |
| Mikkosssss | so not fast for me | 14:25 |
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| inte | nice reply though | 14:26 |
| inte | "According to our records you have three (3) user names." | 14:26 |
| inte | :) | 14:26 |
| inte | mind the 3 in brackets hehe | 14:26 |
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| sgflt | Nicd-, drivers mostly, according to #sailfishos-porters | 14:29 |
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| Mikkosssss | Anyone got sailfish image? | 14:37 |
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| inte | are those available in the wild at all? | 14:48 |
| inte | i was told there is no way to flash the jolla anyways | 14:49 |
| inte | what do you need an image for? | 14:49 |
| inte | just guessing - cant you utilize the image from the sdk? | 14:49 |
| urjaman | no the sdk doesnt have the phone stuff (only an i486 emulator) | 14:50 |
| inte | ah | 14:50 |
| inte | thought it came with an arm image as well | 14:50 |
| inte | but probably missing the drivers | 14:50 |
| inte | Mikkosssss: cant you boot to recovery mode and wipe the filesystem? | 14:51 |
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| inte | Mikkosssss: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- | 14:51 |
| urjaman | but i guess if you want to fix your FS, you could boot it in the rescue mode, copy the whole image over to your pc (netcat or via SD) as a backup, then read the files out of the btrfs (note all the subvolumes), and make a new btrfs with the same properties on the 28th partition and put the files back and then copy that partition back to the phone ... | 14:51 |
| Mikkosssss | You can flash jolla http://www.jollausers.com/2014/10/files-and-instructions-to-recover-jolla/ | 14:51 |
| inte | so what about the recovery mode | 14:52 |
| Mikkosssss | My filesysrtem is too stuck I cant do anything about it | 14:52 |
| inte | doesnt that work for you? | 14:52 |
| inte | you can even mount the fs after booting into recovery | 14:52 |
| inte | and wipe some big files from there | 14:52 |
| inte | i think i had to do that once | 14:52 |
| urjaman | if you can read the filesystem, you should be able to read the files out from the filesystem and make a new one | 14:52 |
| inte | like, 1.5y ago | 14:52 |
| Mikkosssss | I tried to even mount it in no CoW mode to remove anything | 14:53 |
| urjaman | inte: deleting doesnt work for me | 14:53 |
| urjaman | *him | 14:53 |
| Mikkosssss | but still get no space left error | 14:53 |
| urjaman | mind-typo | 14:53 |
| inte | what about sth like cat "" > SOMEBIGFILENAME.MOV | 14:53 |
| urjaman | but you should be able to make a new btrfs, just need to copy all the files out from the old one (and preferably have a binary backup of the fs) and put them back on the new fs | 14:53 |
| Mikkosssss | Isnt it just easier for me to wait if someone has that file than make my own as I am not linux pro | 14:54 |
| urjaman | it's illegal to share the image | 14:54 |
| inte | Mikkosssss: try overwriting big file with emty file | 14:54 |
| inte | s | 14:54 |
| inte | empty files | 14:54 |
| urjaman | the hardware bits are nonredistributable afaik | 14:54 |
| urjaman | but i'll go now, bbl | 14:55 |
| Mikkosssss | inte: I spend 2 days trying everything. I tried that after first 30mins | 14:55 |
| inte | I think that solved the issue for me the last time | 14:55 |
| Mikkosssss | I tried echo > /file/file and few other things | 14:56 |
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| inte | I just googled that for you: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2014/10/download-jolla-factory-image-file-for.html | 14:58 |
| Mikkosssss | "UPDATE, October 23 08:40 UTC: Files were removed from the site originally linked above" | 14:59 |
| inte | ups | 14:59 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus was one who made that site for image and he left message there to contact him on irc for files | 14:59 |
| Mikkosssss | just waiting him to answer | 15:00 |
| inte | well if that is not totally legal from jollas side i guess its not to wise to ask in the official jolla channel but well :) | 15:00 |
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| inte | as I said, i *think* I kept trying overwriting files until I got the Jolla up and running again | 15:02 |
| inte | But, long time, no such issues since | 15:02 |
| Mikkosssss | I tried overwrite files more than 100 times so idk when its gonna work | 15:03 |
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| inte | mh | 15:03 |
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| inte | just asking. you mounted the fs rw? | 15:04 |
| inte | is there no such issue on tjc? | 15:04 |
| Mikkosssss | I mounted it with nodatacow and I have also have Jolla running so I can justopen terminal and try overwrite files | 15:05 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: you hav filesystem full and unusable? | 15:06 |
| Mikkosssss | yes | 15:06 |
| Mikkosssss | totally unusable | 15:07 |
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| inte | mh | 15:11 |
| inte | the error message from store (freely translate): fatal error in app registration | 15:11 |
| inte | what does this mean | 15:11 |
| inte | is it really relate to my jolla account, or do i have to rebuild rpmdb or sth? | 15:12 |
| Mikkosssss | If you have Jolla Utilities ibnstalled you can try fix it from there | 15:12 |
| inte | i have | 15:12 |
| inte | thx | 15:12 |
| inte | cool | 15:13 |
| inte | hope that will help | 15:13 |
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| inte | hu, that takes some time | 15:16 |
| Mikkosssss | For me it takes like 3 sec | 15:16 |
| inte | mh | 15:16 |
| inte | for me like 3min now | 15:17 |
| inte | ha | 15:17 |
| inte | there it is | 15:17 |
| inte | didnt fix the problem though | 15:18 |
| inte | damned | 15:18 |
| inte | ill wait for my account fix | 15:18 |
| inte | maybe its related | 15:18 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: Do you think dd new filesystem would help? I tried eveything else | 15:20 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: yes sure but wait | 15:27 |
| coderus | i'm searching my script for that... | 15:27 |
| Mikkosssss | okay | 15:27 |
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| coderus | before: do you know what files/folders you can remove safely to free up about 500MB? | 15:28 |
| Mikkosssss | I have 2 gb free but I think I need to delete much small files | 15:29 |
| Mikkosssss | but for your question:yes | 15:29 |
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| daitheflu | anyone knows why a Q_PROPERTY(QAbstractItemModel* model READ sourceModel WRITE setModel NOTIFY modelChanged) would not work ? | 15:44 |
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| Mikkosssss | I can delete /home/nemo/Downloads for big files and /home/nemo/WhatsApp for many files | 15:45 |
| daitheflu | I'm getting a "Unable to assign QQmlListModel to [unknown property type] when I try to use it on the QML side :( | 15:45 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: okay, the trick is: | 15:46 |
| coderus | until [ "$?" -eq "0" ]; do rm filename; done | 15:46 |
| coderus | daitheflu: worksforme | 15:46 |
| coderus | if you want to assign qml list model use qml list model type then | 15:47 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: it will delete any file in 10-15 seconds. | 15:47 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: So I just run that command? | 15:47 |
| coderus | it worked for me last time when i stuck in same situation | 15:47 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: yes, just add same command | 15:47 |
| daitheflu | coderus: I'm trying to build a "SortFilter" component that would be able to deal with any QAbstractItemModel subclass | 15:48 |
| Mikkosssss | okay let me try. Btrfs balance might start running and crashing myphone after I run that | 15:48 |
| Lipevakala | inte: Hehe, phone did it. But seems all ok! | 15:50 |
| Lipevakala | Its nr: 30 stil going strong with tohkbd1/2 | 15:52 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: Tried on folder and Its been trying for 1min with "no space left on device" errors | 15:54 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: It worked | 15:57 |
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| daitheflu | Mikkosssss: I hope you've modified the command to "rm -Rf" if you run it on a folder, "rm" is not going to remove a non-empty directory | 15:57 |
| daitheflu | sounds like you did :) | 15:58 |
| Mikkosssss | daitheflu: yes I did | 15:58 |
| daitheflu | Mikkosssss: sounds like you're finally on the way to fixing your phone :D | 15:58 |
| Mikkosssss | Still could not delete files with just rm so I try on bigger files | 15:59 |
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| _inte_ | hello again | 16:14 |
| _inte_ | pkcon returns a "Could not configure normal mode." error | 16:14 |
| _inte_ | what can I do to fix that? | 16:14 |
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| _inte_ | i guess this started from the last update | 16:15 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: After I removed Downloads folder with your with your command I still cant rm /file/ normally | 16:15 |
| _inte_ | ha! | 16:17 |
| _inte_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95840 | 16:17 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: From top my btrfs-balance has been running 61:11:05 | 16:19 |
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| daitheflu | coderus: I finally got it working, I had to qmlRegisterType<QAbstractItemModel>(); | 16:22 |
| daitheflu | isn't that weird ? :s | 16:22 |
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| coderus | Mikkosssss: you need to remove more | 16:34 |
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| _inte_ | damned my jolla is broken and there seems to be no solution in sight | 16:36 |
| coderus | _inte_: post ssu s | 16:36 |
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| _inte_ | ha | 16:40 |
| _inte_ | Device registration status: not registered | 16:40 |
| _inte_ | D | 16:40 |
| _inte_ | maybe somewhat related to my account? | 16:40 |
| coderus | it should not be registered for non-sailors | 16:40 |
| _inte_ | i had some issues | 16:40 |
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| _inte_ | Release: 1.1.7.27 | 16:40 |
| _inte_ | Domain: sales | 16:40 |
| _inte_ | then it should be fine... | 16:41 |
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| Mikkosssss | coderus: I dont know how I have so much data on my phone... I have deleted eveything big from /home/ | 16:41 |
| Mikkosssss | Do you know where my 2gb android game could be located? | 16:42 |
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| inte | re | 16:56 |
| inte | anybody any solution for my pkcon problem yet? | 16:56 |
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| r0kk3rz | nope, talk to care | 17:18 |
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| Yaniel | Mikkosssss: tjc should have multiple posts about that | 17:29 |
| coderus | Mikkosssss: /data/data | 17:29 |
| Mikkosssss | Theres only 10mb apk in /data/data/ but gta sa was 1,5gb download | 17:30 |
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| coderus | Mikkosssss: /data/sdcard | 17:32 |
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| coderus | about pkcon error, need to check why it triggering: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/PackageKit/blob/master/PackageKit/backends/zypp/pk-backend-zypp.cpp#L438 | 17:32 |
| Mikkosssss | coderus: empty | 17:32 |
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| coderus | Mikkosssss: do you have patch for android on real sdcard? | 18:03 |
| Mikkosssss | I found my right folder with du but I cant see it in filemanager | 18:04 |
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| coderus | ? | 18:06 |
| Mikkosssss | used du -h to find big files and found 2,4gb android game | 18:07 |
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| Mikkosssss | coderus: How do I know if btrfs balance is doing anything? btrfs status shows 79% left and thats been there for 20 hours | 18:19 |
| satmd | iotop | 18:21 |
| satmd | if that's available | 18:21 |
| satmd | or dstat | 18:21 |
| Mikkosssss | top? top has been showing many btrfs processes for whole time | 18:22 |
| Mikkosssss | using 20-10% of CPU | 18:22 |
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| satmd | I meant iotop which can sort processes by i/o usage | 18:29 |
| satmd | but cpu usage on btrfs processes also indicate that it's working | 18:29 |
| Trizt | Mikkosssss: lucky you, I have had btrfs balance running for 3.5 weeks and it's literally eating cpu and battery | 18:31 |
| Mikkosssss | it has been running for 75h now | 18:32 |
| Mikkosssss | did it ever finish for you? | 18:33 |
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| Trizt | Mikkosssss: no, it's still keeping on | 18:33 |
| Trizt | https://together.jolla.com/question/103866/11724-never-ending-balance/ | 18:33 |
| Trizt | soonn 600h | 18:34 |
| Mikkosssss | but its not jammed to same %? | 18:35 |
| Trizt | sure it is, it has just one chunk it tries to move | 18:36 |
| Mikkosssss | Any way to kill it? | 18:37 |
| Trizt | Mikkosssss: as I know, no. I even tried with cancel option for 48 hours, but nothing happen more than the phone just got hotter | 18:39 |
| Mikkosssss | Jolla care cant help? | 18:39 |
| Trizt | do not see how to get in touch with them, everything links just to a faq | 18:40 |
| Mikkosssss | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new | 18:40 |
| tigeli | Mikkosssss: Trizt: btrfs balance cancel / should eventually stop it | 18:41 |
| Mikkosssss | "I even tried with cancel option for 48 hours, but nothing happen more than the phone just got hotter" | 18:41 |
| tigeli | :D | 18:42 |
| tigeli | great | 18:42 |
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| Trizt | No, I think the cancel is actually waiting for the balance to finish | 18:43 |
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| satmd | it waits for that chunk | 18:43 |
| Mikkosssss | or one chunk to finish | 18:44 |
| tigeli | Trizt: well, it can cancel it before but there's only certain points where it can cancel it | 18:44 |
| tigeli | so it is pretty much waiting | 18:44 |
| tigeli | Mikkosssss: have you ever balanced the brtfs before? | 18:44 |
| Mikkosssss | Yes, went fine | 18:45 |
| Trizt | the cancel ain't reboot safe, the cancel bit is lost, which has made me think it's not working at all | 18:45 |
| Trizt | Mikkosssss: what does "journalctl -a | tail" say? | 18:47 |
| Mikkosssss | Stuff about btrfs | 18:49 |
| Mikkosssss | what I am looking for? | 18:50 |
| Trizt | Aug 03 17:41:36 Jolla kernel: btrfs: found 1 extents | 18:50 |
| Trizt | I have loads of rows like that | 18:50 |
| Mikkosssss | none of those, mostly Jolla kerner: (btrfs_relocate....) | 18:51 |
| Trizt | then yours are actually doing things | 18:52 |
| Mikkosssss | wee | 18:53 |
| Mikkosssss | but device is un usable because still cant store data to filesystem | 18:53 |
| Trizt | but with the time you spent on your balance, it could actually have been a 4T drive | 18:53 |
| Trizt | you need to delete something big you can restore later on | 18:54 |
| Mikkosssss | I pretty much deleted my /home/ after I copied it to my pc | 18:54 |
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| Trizt | If you stop it (a couple reboot usually can stop it), then run a scrub on it | 18:55 |
| Trizt | at least that is what btrfs howto recommends, to do it weekly | 18:56 |
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| Trizt | Have to go and charge the phone, battery ain't lasting for many hours. | 19:01 |
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| Mikkosssss | coderus: Jolla working good again. Had to reboot few times to get btrfs balance running | 20:28 |
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| Mikkosssss | Thanks for help again. I will send donation again when I put money to paypal. | 20:29 |
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