Saturday, 2015-08-15

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urjamanFunkeh`: according to google i logged in with a Samsung Galaxy S II (they emailed me) - but a system info app can say that it is an "Unknown Jolla"00:31
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Aciidyea S2 it was00:56
Aciidnot S400:56
Funkeh`I'm going to assume/hope google is wrong00:58
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Funkeh`it's mainly in regards to https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/393800:59
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Aciidoh lawl :< cant you install apk manually?01:34
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mannticlerfor transferring files via usb on linux (using nemo) should I "connect to server", with my device ip, username "nemo" ?05:29
mannticlerusing that method, I'm able to browse the files, but so far can't transfer files05:30
mannticlerI just want to add an mp3, guessing to "media"05:30
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mannticlererror while copying "Invalid reply received"05:30
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mannticlerguessing I need permission. but I don't know how to give myself permission via that "connect to server" dialog05:31
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mannticlerNevermind! I connected via filevilla instead and now it's all good.05:56
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mannticlerfilezilla, I mean05:56
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coderusFunkeh`: unknown-Jolla06:19
coderusmannticler: on linux you don't need apps06:20
coderusjust in address bar enter sftp://nemo@192.168.2.15/home/nemo/06:21
coderusor mount device with sshfs06:21
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mannticlerthanks06:29
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byte76Does anybody know if it's possible to recompile the Linux kernel of the jolla phone ?07:24
lukedirtwalkerdoes anyone know if an SD-Card is mounted per default?07:27
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byte76@lukedirtwalker : If you mean 'is there an SD card in the jolla phone when you buy it', then I think that the answer is 'no'. My jolla does not have an SD card mounted, and I don't remember having removed it07:31
lukedirtwalkerbyte76: No I meant when I insert one under which path will it be mounted (if at all)07:32
byte76@lukedirtwalker : ok, then I don't know, but it should be easy to try : insert one, go in the console and type 'dmesg' to see which name it got, and type 'mount' to see if it's mounted07:34
lukedirtwalkerbyte76: true that, tanks07:34
byte76@lukedirtwalker : just did the test for you : it's /dev/mmcblk1(p1) automatically mounted on /opt/alien/media/sdcard:<cardname>07:36
lukedirtwalkerbyte76: do you have the direct /media/sdcard/<cardname> as well?07:37
byte76yes, it also appears in /media/sdcard/07:38
lukedirtwalkergood stuff thanks07:39
byte76I would have expected one of them to be a symlink to the other, but it seems to be mounted twice07:40
byte76you're welcome07:40
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Morpoglukedirtwalker, my sdcard path is: /media/sdcard/3132-616107:45
lukedirtwalkerMorpog: thanks that's consistent with what I saw, the number is just your card name07:45
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saberplease help lol08:25
saberlsusb found my Jolla08:25
saberbut telnet 10.42.66.66 not work lol08:25
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Nicd-saber: but isn't it 192.168.2.15?08:59
Nicd-at least for SSH it is08:59
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saber192.168.2.15 not work too...09:00
Nicd-is it in recovery mode?09:00
saberUnable to connect to remote host: No route to host09:01
Nicd-then it's the IP you mentioned09:01
saberYes09:01
Nicd-but I have never used recovery mode so I can't help :/09:01
saberpushed volume down and power it on09:01
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saberand stuck in the Jolla icon page09:02
urjamanifconfig usb0 10.42.66.67 up # or something like that09:02
stephgif it's recovery09:02
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stephgurjaman is nearly there09:02
saberI typed lsusb09:02
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saberBus 002 Device 003: ID 0461:4dc6 Primax Electronics, Ltd09:02
saberBus 002 Device 054: ID 2931:0a06 Jolla Oy09:03
saberBus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub09:03
saberBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub09:03
saberBus 001 Device 004: ID 04ca:3006 Lite-On Technology Corp.09:03
saberBus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub09:03
saberBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub09:03
stephgcan you telnet to 10.42.66.6609:03
stephgand do you have a usb0 in ifconfig output09:03
saberno09:03
saberneither 10.46.66.66 nor 192.168.2.15 work...09:03
stephgtry as urjaman suggests09:03
stephgthen try 10.42.66.6609:03
stephgalso unplug, replug the jolla and check the output of dmesg09:04
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urjamanthe ifconfig ip should be different from jolla ip (it'll be the ip for your PC on that link)09:04
stephgyou should see your box doing the usb networking thing09:04
urjamanbut in the same network space as the jolla ip09:04
stephgyes09:04
saberI show you my ifconfig09:06
saberifconfig ip09:06
saberip: error fetching interface information: Device not found09:06
saber[saber@saber ~]$ ^C09:06
saber[saber@saber ~]$ ifconfig09:06
saberenp4s0f0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST>  mtu 150009:06
saber        inet 192.168.2.14  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.2.25509:06
saber        ether b8:88:e3:42:57:00  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)09:06
saber        RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)09:06
saber        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 009:06
saber        TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)09:06
saber        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 009:06
saber        device interrupt 1809:06
saberlo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>  mtu 6553609:06
Coolgeekpastebin please...09:06
saber        inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.009:06
saber        inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10<host>09:06
saber        loop  txqueuelen 0  (Local Loopback)09:06
saber        RX packets 30144  bytes 2697680 (2.5 MiB)09:06
saber        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 009:06
saber        TX packets 30144  bytes 2697680 (2.5 MiB)09:06
Nicd-saber: don't paste into the channel09:06
saber        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 009:06
Nicd-use gist.github.com09:06
saberwlp3s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 150009:06
saber        inet 192.168.0.100  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.0.25509:06
saber        inet6 fe80::ecb7:fdc0:4307:d73c  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>09:06
saber        ether 44:6d:57:1f:e7:fc  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)09:06
stephgok so you have no usb network09:06
saber        RX packets 121195  bytes 67916856 (64.7 MiB)09:06
saber        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 009:06
saber        TX packets 62500  bytes 9836930 (9.3 MiB)09:06
stephgalso what OS is this?09:06
saber        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 009:06
saberyup.... sorry for that09:06
urjamanifconfig -a would show them all (even the ones that are down)09:06
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saberifconfig - http://pastebin.com/Je0FMHnH09:07
saberArch Linux09:07
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stephgand if you unplug/replug the jolla what does dmesg show?09:07
saberOne more for ifconfig -a09:08
saberifconfig -a http://pastebin.com/t16whqeb09:08
Coolgeekip l |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us09:08
saberdmesg doesn't get any apparent change...09:09
saberjust the same09:09
urjamanyep try taking the09:09
urjamanifconfig enp0s29u1u2 10.42.66.67 up09:09
urjamangoogle says thats whats a predictably named usb0 -.-09:10
urjamani have the predictable names turned off because i cant remember those and my PC has simple enough ethernet...09:10
saberOh Cool09:10
saberWorks !!!!09:10
stephgcool09:10
saberThz All Geeks !09:10
saberifconfig enp0s29u1u2 10.42.66.6709:11
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saberwhat this command did lol09:11
saberifconfig enp0s29u1u2 10.42.66.67 up09:11
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byte76setting the IP address using ifconfig might be overriden by the network manager (it's the case on Ubuntu ; I don't know for Arch)09:13
saberand I still need help09:14
saberI want to use the shell function in recovery mode to edit the wrong buggy /etc/fstab09:14
urjamanwell if there was a network manager the interface would've gone up by itself iirc (there's a dhcpd there _i think_)09:14
saberbut nano is not available09:14
coderussaber: vi :)09:14
coderusremember to mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 first09:15
saberthz !!!09:15
urjamanon arch you can have it or not have it, it's pretty flexible09:15
coderusin recovery shell is not sailfishos root09:15
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urjamansaber: also mount the correct subvolume :P09:15
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urjamani think the root would be default htough09:16
saberops...09:16
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saberI cd to /etc/fstab09:16
coderusmount /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt09:16
coderuscd /mnt/etc/09:16
coderusvi fstab09:16
coderusgoogle man vi if you never used it before09:17
saberThz so much...09:17
saberI only know gedit and nano lol09:17
coderusits not like notepad, you can stuck how to edit and save file :D09:17
coderusso, google how to use it09:17
saberyup09:17
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saberIs it a bad idea to modify this file in order to do mount bind folder ?09:18
saberToday I tried to modify this file and maybe some syntax error and my phone just dead lol09:19
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stephgsaber: when you have mounted your root pastebin your fstab and we can check it for you09:19
saberfstab - http://pastebin.com/gVVNPzD809:23
saberI want to mount bind the icon folder so as to make icon pack changer?09:23
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saberNow I use this command but after reboot, the effect just gone09:24
sabershell.startDetached("mount", QStringList() << "--bind" << "/usr/share/icons/" + name + "/" << "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/");09:24
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urjamanthat sounds horrible thats for sure09:28
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saberyup...09:34
saberbecause I found not way to change some config for that09:34
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stephgthat seems like a very odd way to me to override the icon directory...09:35
saberyup09:35
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saberI made some icon patch before, but the idea is different09:35
saberthat icon patches modify the *.desktop file of apps to change their icon09:36
saberbut I think that use a patch to do that is not convenient to manage icons...09:36
saberlol09:36
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stephgdoing it with mount isn't really convenient either and is a load more dangerous ;)09:37
saberYup09:37
saberI cannot think another better way for that, neither modify the *.desktop nor using mount lol09:37
saberbecause SK_WORK helped me locate the config value of jolla theme09:38
saberbut not the icon...09:38
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saberI tried grep to look for those config file and the result is garbage09:39
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stephgwhich icon are you looking for in particular09:44
stephggive me an example and I should be able to find it for you09:44
sabernearly all09:44
saberI want to make an icon pack...09:44
stephgok but which icons, you mean launcher icons or notification items or...09:45
saberhttps://openrepos.net/content/saberaltria/numix-icon-jolla09:45
saberlauncher icon09:45
saber:P09:45
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saberthe notification and some toolbar icon locate in /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/icons09:45
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saberlauncher icons in /usr/share/icons/applications/...09:46
saberbut the config file is unknown09:46
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stephgis it actually a config file you're looking for or is it qml I wonder instead09:49
saberI don't know...09:50
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saberthe theme config is in dconf09:51
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sabermeegotouch/theme/name09:53
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saberI looked up gsettings and dconf09:54
stephgok so using the clock as an example09:54
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sabernothing found about the icon09:54
saberYes09:54
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stephgthe desktop file jolla-clock.desktop has Icon=icon-launcher-clock09:54
saberWoW SK_WORK appears09:54
saberYes09:54
saberYes09:54
stephgso looking for that exists as a png in /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient...09:55
stephgand is owned by package ambient-icons-closed09:55
sabersetphg:09:55
saberthe mechanism is like this I found09:56
stephgso all you're wanting to do then is for each of your new icons, move the old one out of the way?09:56
stephgand replace it with your new one09:56
stephg?09:56
saberyes09:56
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saberif an icon exist in /usr/share/icons/applications/86x86, it will use it and not for /usr/share/themes/....09:56
stephgit's just a case of grepping all of the desktop files, finding the icon name and then replacing them when you have one?09:57
saberYes09:57
stephgright so that behaviour is defined in the qml I think09:57
stephgit looks in various places for icons09:57
saberThis is the way I use in the icon patch09:57
stephg(including the android ones etc.)09:57
saberbut I just thought that this method is not so reliable09:57
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stephgwhy isn't it?09:59
saberlike general linux in pc, indeed you can just change a key in gsettings and the default icon folder would be changed09:59
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saberthe .desktop might get updated10:00
saberand the contents will change, maybe the icon name10:00
saberthat means every app got updated and I have to download it, loop up it, see any difference, if so, I have to repack the icon pack...10:01
stephgyes10:01
sabera bit clumsy lol10:01
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stephgI suspect what you[re looking for is in one of the lipstick packages but that's going to require a bit of hunting around10:02
sabermy old method is that, using patch, replace the icon name from jolla-clock to jolla-clock-numix with a suffix10:02
saberYup10:02
stephgalmost certainly lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 ?10:04
saberIf it is possible to change the default theme location from /usr/share/icons/hicolor to another, everything would be easier10:04
sabersome dbus thing and I don't know them lol10:04
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Funkeh`<coderus> Funkeh`: unknown-Jolla10:27
Funkeh`did you check that using an Android app or something?10:27
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Funkeh`according to the cpu-z app model is "Jolla (alien_jolla_bionic)" and manufacturer is "unknown"10:37
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lukedirtwalkerhas anyone ever made an app that uses the sd-card to store data?13:44
Atomimthere are some13:46
lukedirtwalkerany example?13:46
Atomimcant check, I have my jolla in repair13:48
Atomimat least cargo dock has sdcard access afair13:49
Atomimit is a bit problematic that sdcard path is not constant13:50
lukedirtwalkerAtomim: uh nice it exactly contains the info I need13:51
lukedirtwalkerAtomim: it is for a specifc card13:52
lukedirtwalkeras far as I can tell13:52
Atomimshould be, but my path has changed once or twice :p13:52
lukedirtwalkerafter formatting? or something? or just like that?13:53
Atomimmaybe update, dunno13:54
lukedirtwalkerah update could be13:54
Atomimmy manual backups are now duplicated because of that13:54
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BBLobstercoderus: hi, looks like jolla sending their tablets for developers, have you received one?15:21
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coderusBBLobster: sorry, i know nothing about it :(15:41
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stephgBBLobster: if folks have got theirs they're being very quiet about it :/16:04
stephgI'd expect more chatter actually...16:04
Morpogstephg, Jolla stated they have given out NDA's16:07
stephgah16:07
stephgwell that figures16:07
* urjaman *chuckles*16:08
Morpog<Morpog> soooo, kimmoli got a a Jolla dev tablet it seems :D16:08
Morpog<Nicd-> yes, dev tablets have arrived16:08
Morpog<Morpog> https://github.com/kimmoli/heebo/commit/c5954598fe9b6ff3d353bd0e2411d9f16dd5c5d416:08
Morpog<Nicd-> or at least started arriving16:08
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kimmolithat is hasty conclusion from single commit msg..16:16
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urjamantoo much logic for me (starting with "but thats what you would say if nda...") :P16:19
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mannticlerI'm not seeing many browser settings. is there a way to add an ad-blocker?16:26
Nicd-kimmoli: it's not a conclusion that tablets have started arriving, it's a fact :P16:27
kimmoliNicd-: that is a fact16:28
mannticlerand we can't add duckduckgo as a search engine =/16:29
urjamanthere's more search engines somewhere (maybe warehouse/openrepos ...)16:29
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kimmoliis this still valid? https://together.jolla.com/question/627/browser-support-for-custom-search-engines/?answer=61560#post-id-6156016:30
kimmolihttps://openrepos.net/content/coderus/search-engines-sailfish-browser16:31
mannticlerkimmoli & urjaman: Thanks! warehouse is the best16:34
mannticlerI guess I'll try web pirate if I want an ad-blocker. I mostly care about controlling third party js16:40
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mannticlerCan you specify the number of "recent items" that show up on the home screen? Mine shows four, but in the tutorial there's six23:00
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