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| tortoisedoc | grumblegrumble | 12:11 |
| tortoisedoc | priviledged unlocking via dbus (of the lockscreen) works only when display is turned on | 12:12 |
| locusf | isn't it supposed to be like that? | 12:12 |
| tortoisedoc | that is, when sending dbus request with screen on, lock code dialog is displayed only the next time the display is turned on | 12:12 |
| tortoisedoc | im not completely sure if it is a bug which activates a phantmo usb unlocking request | 12:12 |
| tortoisedoc | s/phantmo/phantom | 12:13 |
| tortoisedoc | to my understading (priviledged) apps which send unlock requests should be able to do it any time? | 12:13 |
| tortoisedoc | (ie with display on as well, not only when it's turned on) | 12:13 |
| tortoisedoc | weird | 12:14 |
| tortoisedoc | try this : | 12:15 |
| tortoisedoc | a) with phone on lockscreen (Screen on) have a priviledged app send a dbus unlocking request | 12:15 |
| locusf | you really can't see a gaping security hole in dbus requests unlocking the screen= | 12:15 |
| tortoisedoc | b) screen should flash | 12:15 |
| locusf | ? | 12:15 |
| tortoisedoc | c) turn screen off | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc | d) wait a few seconds to avoid double-press | 12:16 |
| urjaman | locusf: i think he's meaning to lock, not unlock... | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc | e) turn it on -> device lock pin query is requested | 12:16 |
| urjaman | or did i ... oh i misread. | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc | locusf : no, thats not the point | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc | a0) -> set a device lock code on | 12:17 |
| tortoisedoc | i want to unlock when the screen is on of course | 12:17 |
| tortoisedoc | not when it's off | 12:17 |
| tortoisedoc | but currently, it appears to work the other way around | 12:17 |
| tortoisedoc | so security is not an issue here | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc | (at least not as serious as automagically unlocking a device with display off :) ) | 12:18 |
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| tortoisedoc | problem is that this code is in jolla-lipstick | 12:19 |
| tortoisedoc | i guess only way to fix it is to send a patch to jolla? | 12:19 |
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| locusf | jolla-lipstick? | 12:20 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: wait a little for full jolla sailfishos opensourcing :) | 12:22 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus: that might never happen :D | 12:23 |
| urjaman | "a little" | 12:23 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: ;) | 12:23 |
| tortoisedoc | SOON | 12:23 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 12:23 |
| tortoisedoc | i guess patchmanager is my friend in this case | 12:24 |
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| tortoisedoc | locusf : lipstick-jolla-home :) | 12:25 |
| locusf | tortoisedoc: ok I wondered if it was in the upstream lipstick | 12:25 |
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| tortoisedoc | afraid it's not; I think the c++ side is tho | 12:26 |
| locusf | good luck binary patching :p | 12:26 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : did you rely on patchmanager for the powermenu or did you patch on your own? I do not remember | 12:27 |
| tortoisedoc | locusf : god guard me from that :P | 12:27 |
| tortoisedoc | I plan to just patch the qml | 12:27 |
| locusf | you know you can get arm assembler out of gcc ? | 12:28 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: powermenu2 is standalone components | 12:29 |
| coderus | patch for ambience is patch :) | 12:29 |
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| tortoisedoc | locusf : as in? | 12:30 |
| locusf | tortoisedoc: for the patching | 12:32 |
| locusf | given the lipstick-jolla-home c++ code isn't obfuscated/encrypted | 12:32 |
| locusf | err nevermind | 12:32 |
| tortoisedoc | locusf : gcc can provide patch assembler code ? | 12:32 |
| tortoisedoc | that would be kewl | 12:32 |
| locusf | tortoisedoc: no | 12:32 |
| tortoisedoc | but i guess you would need source first :P | 12:32 |
| locusf | if you don't have the source, its useless | 12:32 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:32 |
| tortoisedoc | anyways | 12:33 |
| tortoisedoc | this particular problem is most likely on the qml side | 12:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | as the logic for unlocking seems to have changed | 12:33 |
| tortoisedoc | after 2.0 | 12:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | i'd suspect this to be the culprit :) | 12:33 |
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| locusf | all unlocking + device locking is done in lipstick c++ | 12:34 |
| locusf | ie. upstream | 12:34 |
| ghosalmartin | if i wanted to make a counterpart to an arm package on openrepos, would it just have to be an entirely new package? | 12:34 |
| locusf | if you manually extract the rpm and repackage it then yes | 12:35 |
| locusf | otherwise its mb2 build | 12:35 |
| tortoisedoc | locusf : so you suggest to look in the lipstick c++ | 12:35 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:36 |
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| locusf | I won't link it to you though :p | 12:36 |
| locusf | its self-explanatory | 12:36 |
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| tortoisedoc | locusf : no need to but thanks anyways :) | 12:37 |
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| ghosalmartin | anyone have a tablet that wants to test a kodimote on it? | 12:40 |
| tortoisedoc | ghosalmartin I wish I had :/ | 12:44 |
| ghosalmartin | am building a quick i484 package so wondering if the owner of it will mind | 12:44 |
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| urjaman | *86, anyways if you dont have a tablet, why are you compiling it? .... | 12:45 |
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| ghosalmartin | someone with a tablet said they wanted it | 12:46 |
| urjaman | well i suppose then you already have a tester :) | 12:47 |
| ln- | what's kodimote? | 12:47 |
| ghosalmartin | remote for kodi | 12:47 |
| ln- | ... what's kodi? | 12:47 |
| ghosalmartin | media center | 12:47 |
| ln- | i see. | 12:47 |
| ghosalmartin | with lots of streaming plugins | 12:47 |
| Lieke | formerly known as xbmc | 12:48 |
| ln- | ah, that name i recognize | 12:48 |
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| ghosalmartin | it used to be the dream, you get splinter cell, you get a center gameshark thing, copy it over and boom you've softmodded your xbox, next step install xbmc and drool | 12:49 |
| ghosalmartin | things were much simpler then | 12:49 |
| locusf | kodi is really good | 12:50 |
| urjaman | "simpler" :P | 12:50 |
| locusf | I'll take a look if I have time this weekend to test it with my tablet | 12:50 |
| Lieke | i think it's way simpler to just use the kodi on my odroid :P | 12:50 |
| ghosalmartin | after that the next stpe was to take apart the xbox | 12:50 |
| ghosalmartin | and put in 137gb hard drive | 12:50 |
| ghosalmartin | why 137gb, because some partition issue | 12:50 |
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| ghosalmartin | and the kodimote build crashed | 12:51 |
| ghosalmartin | lunch time | 12:51 |
| ghosalmartin | actually | 12:53 |
| ghosalmartin | what header do we use for setuid and setguid | 12:53 |
| ghosalmartin | boom worked | 12:55 |
| r0kk3rz | kodi is a lie, it will always been xbmc | 12:58 |
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| ghosalmartin | well its built time for lunch | 13:00 |
| ghosalmartin | also the guy who i was going to ask to test just bricked his tablet :P | 13:00 |
| locusf | hahahahha | 13:00 |
| locusf | ghosalmartin: I'll see about it in sunday | 13:00 |
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| ghosalmartin | cheers | 13:00 |
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| Mister_Magister | hello. I have this https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus/blob/master/doc/src/examples.qdoc and this "dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.ofono / org.nemomobile.ofono.ModemManager.SetEnabledModems array:objpath:/ril_0" and now i want to connect them. what path: i should set? | 14:46 |
| alterego | "/" | 14:47 |
| alterego | --dest is service / is path and everything up until .SetEnabled is interface | 14:48 |
| alterego | method is that last part without leading period. | 14:48 |
| Mister_Magister | thanks | 14:49 |
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| Mister_Magister | and i should use method call or setProperty? | 14:52 |
| alterego | Hrm, depends on the spec, you know there is an ofono QML plugin | 14:54 |
| Mister_Magister | hmm i'm trying this | 14:54 |
| Mister_Magister | profiled.setProperty('SetEnabledModems', [['objpath','/ril_'+column.simSlot]]); | 14:54 |
| alterego | No, that's not right | 14:54 |
| Mister_Magister | that's why it's not working xD | 14:55 |
| Mister_Magister | but why it's not right? | 14:55 |
| alterego | I'm just checking the API, hangon | 14:55 |
| Mister_Magister | ok thanks | 14:55 |
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| alterego | Mister_Magister: so you don't want to use SetProperty | 14:59 |
| alterego | And what's "profiled" doing there? :P | 14:59 |
| Mister_Magister | why | 14:59 |
| Mister_Magister | why i don't want? | 15:00 |
| alterego | Because it's a method call, not a property | 15:00 |
| alterego | You want to call ofonoIface.SetEnabledModems(["/ril_X"]) | 15:01 |
| alterego | Where ofonoIface, is the id of your DBusInterface instance defined in your QML | 15:01 |
| Mister_Magister | so ofonoIface.call('SetEnabledModems', [['objpath','/ril_'+column.simSlot]]) ? | 15:02 |
| alterego | Probably something like that. | 15:03 |
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| Mister_Magister | alterego: but that not working | 15:05 |
| alterego | Mister_Magister: well, I still think it'd be easier to use the ofono plugin :P | 15:05 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: There is one simple question. How | 15:06 |
| alterego | Hang on, I'll find the source | 15:06 |
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| alterego | Mister_Magister: so, remove all the DBus stuff, and: import MeeGo.QOfono 0.2 | 15:08 |
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| alterego | Actually, my mistake, the ofono plugin is incomplete with the modem manager API | 15:10 |
| alterego | So you're going to have to get the DBus API working | 15:10 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: :P | 15:10 |
| Mister_Magister | i don't know how can i do it | 15:11 |
| Mister_Magister | xD | 15:11 |
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| alterego | Unfortunately my DBus QML knowledge is a bit rusty, but you need to use .call | 15:15 |
| alterego | You also need to make sure you're using the "system" bus and not the "session" bus | 15:15 |
| alterego | And you might want to check with "dbus-monitor --system" in a terminal to make sure you're sending correctly. | 15:16 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: how can i if i don't know wahat is system bus and session bus | 15:16 |
| alterego | There should be a away of setting which bus when you create DBusInterface instance | 15:17 |
| alterego | You need to set the "bus" property | 15:17 |
| Mister_Magister | nah there is no info about sending in dbus-monitor --system | 15:17 |
| alterego | You need to do: "bus: DBus.SystemBus" in your DBusInterface | 15:18 |
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| alterego | Looks like you also need to use "typedCall" | 15:18 |
| Mister_Magister | oh :( | 15:18 |
| Mister_Magister | why it's so hard | 15:18 |
| Mister_Magister | can't i just run command? xD | 15:18 |
| alterego | Something like: ofonoIface.typedCall('SetEnabledModems', [{type: 'o', value: '/ril_1}]) | 15:19 |
| alterego | That should do it I think. | 15:19 |
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| alterego | Anyway, I've got to go, good luck ;) | 15:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | Mister_Magister: its dbus, is always a PITA | 15:20 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: pita? | 15:21 |
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| Mister_Magister | alterego: nah it;s not working too | 15:24 |
| alterego | Mister_Magister: stick your code up on pastie.org | 15:24 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: just say give me jour code xD | 15:25 |
| alterego | Well, whatever works for you .. | 15:25 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: http://pastebin.com/fVFCPPTD | 15:25 |
| alterego | Shame I don't have a multisim device to check with, lol | 15:27 |
| alterego | You don't need that surrounding Item covering DBusInterface, btw | 15:27 |
| Mister_Magister | But it's sending nothing | 15:28 |
| Mister_Magister | so there is nothing to check or on single sim you still can change and have message | 15:28 |
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| nh1402 | how does the clipboard system work in Sailfish? | 15:33 |
| nh1402 | I know it works in certain apps, but not the browser. | 15:34 |
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| alterego | nh1402: then what's your question? | 15:34 |
| nh1402 | I said I know it works, I don't know how it works | 15:35 |
| nh1402 | I was going to modify sfdroid so it copys things into the same clipboard. | 15:36 |
| alterego | Mister_Magister: it might be a permissions error | 15:37 |
| Mister_Magister | but why | 15:37 |
| Mister_Magister | command is working without devel-su | 15:37 |
| alterego | Err, because, permissions? | 15:37 |
| Mister_Magister | :P | 15:37 |
| alterego | Doesn't matter. | 15:37 |
| alterego | IT's not a unix user thing | 15:38 |
| Mister_Magister | so i don'y know :C | 15:38 |
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| coderus | nh1402: works in browser well | 15:41 |
| coderus | just browser not have handles to copy/paste text | 15:41 |
| coderus | but thats browser problems :D | 15:41 |
| alterego | coderus: so it doesn't work .. | 15:42 |
| Mister_Magister | So if somebody have idea please tell me | 15:42 |
| coderus | nh1402: and clipboard just works using QCoreApplication::clipboard class | 15:42 |
| alterego | Mister_Magister: how are you running the application? | 15:44 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: on my phone | 15:44 |
| alterego | From the launcher? | 15:44 |
| Mister_Magister | no | 15:44 |
| Mister_Magister | from sdk | 15:44 |
| Mister_Magister | command don't give log in dbus-monitor | 15:45 |
| alterego | I know, the call is failing for some reason | 15:46 |
| Mister_Magister | alterego: i mean command in terminal | 15:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | Mister_Magister: make sure you tell dbus-monitor to use the system bus | 15:59 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: on any there is nothing. i tried system and session | 16:00 |
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| JeffHoogland | Anyone know if there is a way to make poor maps use miles and feet instead of KM | 16:49 |
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| JeffHoogland | Does Qt4 / PySide run on sailfish? | 16:59 |
| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: I think someone built PyQt 5 (Python 3 & Qt 5) | 17:05 |
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| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: AFAIK there is no Qt 4 on Sailfish as Qt 4 does not really support Wayland | 17:05 |
| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: and Sailfish OS is (so far) Wayland only | 17:06 |
| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: also there is of course PyOtherSide: https://sailfishos.org/develop/tutorials/creating-application-in-python/ | 17:06 |
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| JeffHoogland | Alrighty | 17:08 |
| JeffHoogland | Have a few pyside apps from my n900 days I might look into porting to Qt5 then | 17:08 |
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| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: cool! :) | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | I've been doing Python apps for the N900 & Sailfish OS for a while | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | so let me know if you have questions about the differences, etc. :) | 17:10 |
| M4rtinK | PyQt 5 is probably the closest one to how stuff was done on the N900 | 17:11 |
| M4rtinK | PyOtherSide is rather different - it does not wrap all the Qt classes like PySide or PyQt | 17:11 |
| M4rtinK | but instead basically provides an interface/brige between Python and QML/QtQuick | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | and that's very powerful | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | makes basically instantaneous application startup possible | 17:12 |
| M4rtinK | as well as running Python code totally asynchronously from the QML GUI | 17:13 |
| JeffHoogland | Yea, I remember doing a few QML tutorials at one point | 17:13 |
| M4rtinK | both were not really possible or at least quite hard with the normal bindings | 17:13 |
| JeffHoogland | but didn't have a sailfish phone to use at that point | 17:13 |
| JeffHoogland | now that i do, might take another crack at it | 17:14 |
| M4rtinK | also PyOtherSide apps can be distributed via the official Jolla app store | 17:14 |
| M4rtinK | cool! :) | 17:14 |
| M4rtinK | there should be many developers on the channel who can help you with QML related questions :) | 17:14 |
| alterego | What's the performance like? Startup times specifically compared to a Qml/C++ app? | 17:14 |
| M4rtinK | & I can help with the PyOtherSide ones :) | 17:14 |
| JeffHoogland | Got a nexus 5 cheap and it works really well | 17:14 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: same as pure QML app :) | 17:15 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: that's the trick :) | 17:15 |
| alterego | Nice | 17:15 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: you basically start a pure QML app and then import & use Python stuff from it | 17:15 |
| alterego | Oh right, interesting. | 17:16 |
| M4rtinK | python module imports and calls have both synchronous and asynchronous variants | 17:16 |
| M4rtinK | also Python can send signals to QML | 17:16 |
| M4rtinK | which is also handy | 17:16 |
| JeffHoogland | M4rtinK: got a recommended starting point for pyotherside? | 17:16 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: and there is even an image provider: http://pyotherside.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#image-provider | 17:17 |
| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: I would certainly recommend starting with the examples: https://github.com/thp/pyotherside/tree/master/examples | 17:18 |
| alterego | Neat, I doubt I'd have much benefit, as I'm a pretty proficient Qt/C++/Qml developer, but good to know anyway. | 17:18 |
| M4rtinK | just clone the repo to your Jolla, run them with qmlscene & see how it works | 17:18 |
| alterego | I'm glad it got official support in Harbour, I remember the requests ongoing for a year and a half. | 17:18 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: yeah, same thing with GPS API | 17:19 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: but we finally have both | 17:19 |
| M4rtinK | JeffHoogland: also the docs: http://pyotherside.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 17:20 |
| M4rtinK | that should get you started :) | 17:20 |
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| M4rtinK | you can also check existing users of PyOtherSide such as modRana, gPodder or Poor Maps for advanced usage | 17:20 |
| JeffHoogland | M4rtinK: I assume they will work on Ubuntu as well? | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC Ubuntu has PyOtherSide in the repo | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | so yes | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | for the record Fedora has it to (an I'm the maintainer ;-) ) | 17:21 |
| JeffHoogland | Rpms are scary :p | 17:23 |
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| M4rtinK | alterego: BTW, PyOtherSide makes it also really easy to combine C++ & Python if you want to | 17:35 |
| M4rtinK | you can easily for example use some Python modules for the stuff you might want in a mostly QML/C++ app | 17:36 |
| M4rtinK | or the other way around | 17:36 |
| M4rtinK | for example modRana has a C++ launcher on Android | 17:36 |
| M4rtinK | just FYI :) | 17:36 |
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| alterego | Nice | 17:36 |
| M4rtinK | there have been even some ideas about using it with PyPy :) | 17:38 |
| alterego | wtf is that? | 17:38 |
| locusf | isn't it Python written in Python? | 17:38 |
| alterego | tbh, I'm not a massive fan of Python, I've used it extensively, but it's not really my first choice ;) | 17:38 |
| alterego | I don't mind it, but I have other preferences. | 17:39 |
| r0kk3rz | it would be better with braces | 17:39 |
| alterego | I suppose it has advantages on mobile devices, because you can edit the source and you don't need to strictly recompile, but meh. | 17:39 |
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| M4rtinK | gah | 17:40 |
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| M4rtinK | next say you want redundant semicolons everywhere :) | 17:41 |
| M4rtinK | locusf: http://pypy.org/ | 17:41 |
| JeffHoogland | is there a video calling app on sailfish? | 17:41 |
| M4rtinK | basically a JiTed Python implementation | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | M4rtinK: no semicolons is fine, but braces are good | 17:41 |
| M4rtinK | sure, then we could argue how to place them ;-) | 17:42 |
| r0kk3rz | exactly | 17:42 |
| M4rtinK | on a more serious note | 17:43 |
| M4rtinK | I don't really think the missing braces are a problem for Python | 17:43 |
| M4rtinK | don't really remember any case of "if we had braces this bug would not happen", etc. | 17:43 |
| r0kk3rz | python seems to be going just fine without them for sure | 17:44 |
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