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| chep_ | hi, should it be possible to restore a backup made in 2.0.1.11 to Jolla C? | 09:54 |
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| chep_ | I managed to "update" the backup and then after I removed the old Backup.tar it is possible to restore from the updated backup, but nothing gets restored | 09:55 |
| chep_ | log says "No running unit scripts for Accounts(and everything else), no relevant contents found to restore" | 09:56 |
| r0kk3rz | chep_: i think current wisdom is just to copy /home/nemo | 09:56 |
| chep_ | r0kk3rz: ok, but will that copy messages, notes etc? | 09:57 |
| r0kk3rz | i have yet to try it myself, but thats what people were saying | 09:59 |
| r0kk3rz | i pick up my jolla c from the depot tonight | 09:59 |
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| chep_ | maybe I could try to update the old Jolla to 2.0.2.45 and then make the backup | 10:01 |
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| leszek | chep_: notes should be saved in ~/.local/share/jolla-notes | 10:08 |
| leszek | messages as in sms/mms I don't know | 10:09 |
| kimmoli | sql_database="/home/nemo/.local/share/commhistory/commhistory.db" | 10:11 |
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| kimmoli | some script-things for sms here https://together.jolla.com/question/54249/how-to-saving-sms-text-conversations/ | 10:11 |
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| gan | hey everyone | 12:47 |
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| frinring | hi. is there some tutorial how to create plugins for an app for the settings (app)? | 13:30 |
| frinring | I only found https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/nemo-qml-plugin-configuration/ so far, but that does not tell me how to create something which would register a settings plugin for my app with the settings application | 13:32 |
| kimmoli | no tutorials afaik, but e.g. https://github.com/kimmoli/onyx-camera-settings-plugin | 13:33 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/onyx-gesture-settings-plugin | 13:33 |
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| frinring | kimmoli: thanks, having a look. by any chance also an example which uses cmake? :) | 13:34 |
| kimmoli | nope | 13:35 |
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| ajalkane | I have a problem with google account calendar syncing. I have two google accounts, one personal and one for work. If I create a new event from Sailfish Calendar on my personal account, it will not persist but is removed apparently the next time calendar is synced. Work calendar works fine. Is there any way I can assist sailors in fixing this problem? | 17:02 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | ajalkane: ping chriadam | 17:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and / or log something on TJC | 17:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | be sure to provide everything (files logs) that would help | 17:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chriadam should be able to tell you what files you need | 17:24 |
| ajalkane | Thanks | 17:25 |
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| nh1402 | how would one create a desktop file for the Sailfish launcher using dbus in C++? | 17:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: no need for dbus (imo) | 17:45 |
| ajalkane | I can't see how it could be done with dbus | 17:45 |
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| nh1402 | well what I want to do is create an entry for android apps | 17:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: drop the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications | 17:46 |
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| nh1402 | 2 ways of communicating to Sailfish from Android (sfdroid), d-bus or domain socket to the renderer, where the renderer does appropriate things | 17:48 |
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| nh1402 | SfietKonstantinW: sounds like I have to use the domain socket, give the renderer the information and then create the desktop file and drop it in the relevant location? | 17:49 |
| coderus | create a dbus listener waiting for youor commands | 17:49 |
| NeKit | I think it should be separated from renderer to be able to run as service | 17:50 |
| nh1402 | the domain socket approach is usually only used if dbus cannot be. | 17:50 |
| ajalkane | What they said. Separate service / dbus listener to create the destktop files | 17:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | you might be able to use apkenv for that | 17:55 |
| r0kk3rz | or pull the code from it that does the 'installing' | 17:56 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: i need to modify installd in Android, so that when someone installs it *in* Android it then creates an icon entry | 17:57 |
| nh1402 | if I use apkenv then it will only work if someone tries to install an Android app in Sailfish. | 17:58 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: domain socket ? | 17:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | why ? | 17:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah sorry sfdroid | 17:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yeah, dbus service | 17:59 |
| nh1402 | SfietKonstantinW: I don't know what that means | 17:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: so, basically you want sfdroid (that runs somewhere, as a specific user) to create desktop services ? | 18:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | right ? | 18:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what is your need | 18:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can have a service that is just used to create desktop services running as user nemo, started by systemd (for example) | 18:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and call that DBus interface from sfdroid | 18:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ? | 18:02 |
| nh1402 | when Android (sfdroid) installs an Android app I want to modify the packagemanager so it extracts the icon from the apk, and then creates an app entry in Sailfish | 18:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I wonder if you can let apkd to do that | 18:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but iirc apkd have a dep on alien | 18:03 |
| locusf | well if you have sfdroid you could just have apkd/apkenv as replacement scripts | 18:03 |
| nh1402 | with the constraint that Android can only talk to Sailfish via d-bus or a domain socket | 18:04 |
| nh1402 | I believe apkd is closed source | 18:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is | 18:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but youc an do something similar | 18:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 18:04 |
| locusf | I mean just have something instead | 18:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what you need is a daemon | 18:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | another one, that runs either as root or as nemo | 18:05 |
| nh1402 | and call it with dbus, pass it the information, and then the service creates the app entry | 18:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 18:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: can sfdroid drop the icon file somewhere ? | 18:05 |
| nh1402 | not really, it would be somewhere in the Android system files, most likely in the installed apps' folder | 18:06 |
| nh1402 | but installd should have the location, so if I pass the path to the service I suppose it can move it | 18:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: can nemo access those files ? | 18:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well | 18:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the best would be to pass name, path of icon | 18:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if nemo can access to this icon there is no need to move the icon file | 18:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | also, the best would be to have the daemon run as nemo | 18:08 |
| r0kk3rz | add it to lipstick? | 18:09 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: ?? | 18:09 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what do you mean ? | 18:09 |
| nh1402 | that brings me to another point, if I create the file manually wouldn't I have to restart lipstick in order to see the new entry | 18:10 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: no | 18:10 |
| SfietKonstantinW | when you add browser shortcut to the grid, there is no reboot needed :) | 18:11 |
| r0kk3rz | SfietKonstantinW: lipstick has various dbus interfaces already, another one wouldnt hurt | 18:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: ha | 18:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | upstream that ? | 18:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum | 18:11 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah they wont want it upstream, but who cares | 18:12 |
| nh1402 | I don't really see that happening, unless they modify apkd to use this method of creating the app entry. | 18:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: why won't they want that upstream ? :) | 18:12 |
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| nh1402 | and it would be best not to modify lipstick otherwise that would definitely ruin chances of OTA support | 18:13 |
| nh1402 | providing the change doesn't go upstream | 18:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you have that upstream, it is less maintenance pain | 18:13 |
| nh1402 | if it upstreams | 18:14 |
| r0kk3rz | on second thought, i dont see why not. really what you want is just a trigger to create a desktop file with certain info right? | 18:15 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nh1402: why not | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | thats not even android specific, thats fairly generic | 18:15 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | and could be useful for other things | 18:16 |
| SfietKonstantinW | even the browser could use it | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | another interface on this: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/blob/master/src/components/launcherdbus.cpp | 18:16 |
| SfietKonstantinW | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/blob/master/src/components/launcherdbus.cpp | 18:17 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: you are faster than me | 18:17 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | maybe it makes sense to add it here | 18:17 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 18:18 |
| r0kk3rz | we cant both be wrong | 18:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 18:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I could create the pull request tonight | 18:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if I didn't need to sleep | 18:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | unfortunately, I need | 18:19 |
| nh1402 | come to think of it, it would be generic | 18:19 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm, how would you get the icon out? | 18:20 |
| nh1402 | app name, app icon, app exec command | 18:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | otherwise https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/blob/master/src/bookmarks/desktopbookmarkwriter.cpp | 18:20 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | for inspiration | 18:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | r0kk3rz: icon as a path on the fs | 18:21 |
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| nh1402 | in either case, I don't know how to make such a dbus interface | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402: that launcherdbus.cpp has everything you need | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | the qt adapter does magic behind the scenes | 18:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 18:26 |
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| nh1402 | I'll look into it, thank you, I'll be back soon | 18:29 |
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| tortoisedoc | duh! | 19:23 |
| tortoisedoc | anyone else getting "gdbserver not found" while debugging on jollac? | 19:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | tortoisedoc: install gdbserver on jc ? | 19:27 |
| tortoisedoc | SfietKonstantinW : pkcon install gdbserver right? | 19:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep ? | 19:27 |
| tortoisedoc | Command failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find gdbserver | 19:27 |
| tortoisedoc | that aside; | 19:28 |
| tortoisedoc | why would I need to separtely install gdb & gdbserver, if i already enabled developer mode | 19:28 |
| SfietKonstantinW | gdb-gdbserver | 19:28 |
| tortoisedoc | duh | 19:28 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 19:29 |
| tortoisedoc | btw | 19:29 |
| tortoisedoc | it is a coincidence that the device name of JollaC on qtcreator is "Intex Aqua Fish", right? ;) | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | just a non-polished-thing in device configs | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | so coincidence | 19:39 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli #legit | 19:41 |
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| MoritzJT | hi there! | 19:57 |
| xkr47 | bah with disk full problem | 20:02 |
| xkr47 | nm | 20:02 |
| xkr47 | now it won't accept my security code anymore | 20:02 |
| xkr47 | oh, now it does | 20:02 |
| xkr47 | strangest thing | 20:02 |
| MoritzJT | sounds awful! | 20:07 |
| MoritzJT | BTRFS be gone xD | 20:08 |
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| xkr47 | yup | 20:08 |
| xkr47 | tried to inactivate the security code but now it's "wrong" again | 20:09 |
| xkr47 | welp, can log in with ssh at least | 20:09 |
| xkr47 | the bloody thing keeps starting a balance automatically at startup | 20:09 |
| xkr47 | and cancel doesn't work | 20:09 |
| xkr47 | and tried letting it run for 12 hours but didn't help | 20:09 |
| xkr47 | I think I'll have to try rescue mode (or whatever) and manually try running it | 20:10 |
| xkr47 | don't have a sd card, otherwise I could expand the storage to that perhaps | 20:10 |
| MoritzJT | get one, theyre cheap! | 20:18 |
| xkr47 | yeah | 20:22 |
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| MoritzJT | anyone using f2fs filesystem for sdcard on Jolla C? | 20:30 |
| xkr47 | MoritzJT, tell me, does the jolla c feel different from the original jolla phone? | 20:35 |
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| MoritzJT | xkr47: in certain aspects ;) What troubles you most? | 20:39 |
| xkr47 | nothing really | 20:40 |
| xkr47 | if the scope is the original phone ;) | 20:41 |
| xkr47 | interesting, mounted the device with skip_balance option; | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | / # mount -t btrfs -o skip_balance /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/ | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | / # btrfs balance status /mnt | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | Balance on '/mnt' is paused | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | 0 out of about 0 chunks balanced (0 considered), nan% left | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | / # btrfs balance cancel /mnt | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | / # btrfs balance status /mnt | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | No balance found on '/mnt' | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | / # | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | but while it was running it totally failed to cancel | 20:42 |
| xkr47 | let's try umount-mount and see if it's just bullshitting me :-) | 20:42 |
| MoritzJT | hopefully it is! good luck! | 20:49 |
| xkr47 | it wasn't | 20:49 |
| xkr47 | modest progress | 20:49 |
| xkr47 | / # btrfs balance start -musage=10 /mnt | 20:49 |
| xkr47 | Done, had to relocate 2 out of 21 chunks | 20:49 |
| MoritzJT | Jolla C has no Magnetometer... yay | 20:49 |
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| MoritzJT | hey! | 20:49 |
| MoritzJT | cool | 20:50 |
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| xkr47 | yay, musage=40 and now it wants to stay up all night again | 21:06 |
| xkr47 | party phone lol | 21:07 |
| MoritzJT | oh shit, is it a spare? | 21:10 |
| MoritzJT | I'd have reset by now :D | 21:10 |
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| xkr47 | a spare? | 21:16 |
| MoritzJT | a spare phone... don't you need your Jolla working? | 21:17 |
| xkr47 | I have a spare jolla hehe | 21:18 |
| MoritzJT | 🤓 | 21:22 |
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| Jackneill | hey | 21:30 |
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| Jackneill | is it possible to install sailfishos on my LG P880? | 21:31 |
| * Jackneill doesnt like android, its sooo slow | 21:31 | |
| xkr47 | Jackneill, there is a #sailfish-porters channel for this kind of stuff | 21:32 |
| Jackneill | thanks | 21:32 |
| Jackneill | xkr47, its empty | 21:32 |
| NeKit | #sailfishos-porters | 21:33 |
| Jackneill | yeah found, thanks | 21:33 |
| xkr47 | oops yeah | 21:33 |
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