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| Ingvix | Why can't I find jolla's maps from the store with aquafish? | 06:45 |
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| Ingvix | can maps be installed to it in any way? | 06:46 |
| Ingvix | okay found the answer from tj | 06:48 |
| Ingvix | but I wonder why is an android app an official resolution for sailfish | 06:50 |
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| abranson | Ingvix: i guess because a native mapping app requires too much work to get up to the same level. you can't say they didn't try :) | 07:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | abranson: i figured it was more to do with licensing | 08:33 |
| r0kk3rz | since HERE got sold | 08:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | ol: does your sailfishos cjdns build work well? | 09:18 |
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| aimless | I wanna ask you again, has nobody a clue what the cause may be that the index of the dragged item doesn't change? Otherwise, I'll put the Question to tj... | 11:01 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | aimless: well | 11:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what's your usecase | 11:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (my favourite question) | 11:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I think that you need to handle the index mainaully | 11:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | plus send some code | 11:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I'm not 100% anymore | 11:20 |
| kimmoli | just 99%? | 11:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: no, 98 :( | 11:21 |
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| aimless | SfietKonstantinW: k, my usecase: I wanna move an Item in a listView by using the function listview.indexAt(mouseX, mouseY). When I'm aware of the position (index) where the mouse with the dragged object is over (and it has changed), I move the current list item (per index) either with the previous or the next one. | 11:29 |
| aimless | https://goo.gl/NRad4Z | 11:29 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | aimless: you need to check Drag and DropArea documentation :) | 11:35 |
| aimless | I assume that each list element is (decreasing from top to down) on an own "level" or "layer". So, upwards it works fine, but downwards, the index always remains on the dragged item. | 11:36 |
| aimless | SfietKonstantinW: ok. I thought it wouldn't be necessary to have a drop area, as I actually don't wanna drop, because it should be moved as soon as its position has been changed. | 11:39 |
| Ingvix | It seems that with aquafish spotify can be controlled from lockscreen controls though this wasn't possible with jolla | 11:47 |
| Ingvix | android's spotify that is | 11:48 |
| leszek | Ingvix: yep this is possible since the tablet version. Alien Dalvik was adapted for this. However it needs a newer implementation which isn't supported by the Jolla phone | 11:52 |
| Ingvix | ah, I see | 11:52 |
| ol | r0kk3rz: My Sailfish OS cjdns build works well, but consumes too much power: battery runs out in one day. | 12:00 |
| r0kk3rz | ol: i installed it, it works, but perhaps it needs iphb patches so it sleeps properly | 12:00 |
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| ol | r0kk3rz: Could you please give me more info about these patches? | 12:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | ol: umm, not much, other than it will need libiphb and implementation similar to this https://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python/commit/64a5142a3222fb9f89dfc4c20a0da24f8a725e9d | 12:15 |
| tbr | :) | 12:16 |
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| ol | Reading README for libiphb: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/libiphb/blob/master/README | 12:23 |
| ol | Very infomative. | 12:23 |
| r0kk3rz | ol: actually, i guess the DHT is probably being chatty as well which wont do the battery any favours | 12:24 |
| ol | It doesn't need to be chatty too often, only when new session is established or somebody asks about somebody. | 12:25 |
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| tbr | ol: I remember finding some decent enough information to write that patch r0kk3rz pointed you to. Might have been that the code/headers had enough comments or such. :) | 12:29 |
| tbr | ol: in the end it's just a way to get woken up at a roughly predefined time, instead of a "busy loop" that would keep things from sleeping. Notice how I wait concurrently for the timer to wake me up or for traffic coming in (as the OS is awake enough to have incoming traffic). | 12:31 |
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| r0kk3rz | ol: realistically, unless your phone is a routing node, it doesnt need to be asked about routing at all | 12:33 |
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| ol | r0kk3rz: Yes. But I'm not sure how to make cjdns node to not participate in routing. | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i might have to hit up cjd about whether something like that is possible | 12:36 |
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| ol | tbr: But it there is no busy loop, just waiting for network events (incoming UDP packets from network and outgoing IP packets from tun interface), what libiphb does? | 12:36 |
| ol | ^it^if | 12:37 |
| tbr | ol: it keeps it from looping all the time | 12:40 |
| tbr | ol: you'll need to look at the actual loop to see where you have to work in iphb | 12:42 |
| ol | tbr: I don't get it. If there is event loop that performs select(), what else is needed? | 12:43 |
| tbr | ol: you need to make sure the select is also against iphb | 12:44 |
| tbr | (note that my problem was the opposite, the system was going to sleep all the time and causing TCP timeouts) | 12:44 |
| ol | tbr: Why? What kind of event I should react to that is not already listed in select() arguments? | 12:45 |
| tbr | https://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python/commit/64a5142a3222fb9f89dfc4c20a0da24f8a725e9d#diff-4a46a5c4a966dc0a99d64a4fe2843dc7R804 | 12:45 |
| tbr | note how I added hbsock | 12:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | aimless: let me think about it | 12:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I have some code that to it | 12:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | aimless: https://github.com/SfietKonstantin/harbour-twablet/blob/master/src/bin/qml/pages/SettingsPage.qml#L182 | 12:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I'm using dragEntered (in a dropArea) | 12:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | https://github.com/SfietKonstantin/harbour-twablet/blob/master/src/bin/qml/pages/LayoutItemDelegate.qml#L112 | 12:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so you cna use dropArea even if it is not for dropping, just for entering | 12:47 |
| ol | tbr: Yes, I see, but I still don't understand why it's needed. How waiting for *more* events can save power? | 12:48 |
| tbr | ol: because you also need to get rid of anything that tries to keep you awake unnecessarily | 12:48 |
| ol | tbr: Then I have to wait for less events, not more. | 12:49 |
| tbr | so that you are left with those things that *must* really wake you up and the iphb wakeup that makes sure you run every now and then to ensure there are no timeouts etc | 12:49 |
| ol | tbr: Can you please explain in simple words what kind of events cause iphb descriptor to be marked as ready to be read? | 12:54 |
| tbr | ol: timers, you set a timer and it will *roughly* wake you up within the desired time. It's not exact, but close. that can be seconds, minutes, hours. Depending on how often the select must break at *minimum*. | 12:56 |
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| ol | tbr: How is this different than timeout argument of select()? | 12:58 |
| tbr | ol: that timeout might *never* come as the system will sleep a *lot* | 12:58 |
| tbr | you could set the timeout to 10s, but it would only trigger after 2min or 5min | 12:59 |
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| tbr | ol: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/libiphb/blob/master/src/libiphb.h | 13:07 |
| ol | tbr: I'm already reading https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/libiphb/blob/master/src/libiphb.c | 13:08 |
| tbr | the comments in .h are good | 13:09 |
| ol | But this doesn't help as well. It just opens socket to some daemon. | 13:09 |
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| tbr | that's IIRc what I went through when setting things up | 13:09 |
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| spiiroin | ol, tbr: the benefit iphb brings is a) it can wakeup up from suspend b) it possible other processes are woken at the same time | 13:16 |
| * tbr has been saying that for the last 30min :) | 13:21 | |
| spiiroin | ol: if you really want to do it yourself, get fd with iphb_get_fd(handle) -> use the fd in select/poll whatnot; when becomes readable = wakeup; then you need to discard input from the socket | 13:29 |
| spiiroin | ol: but basically the idea was that you would not use libiphb directly, but via nemo-keepalive wrappers (for ex https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nemo-keepalive/blob/master/lib-glib/keepalive-timeout.h) | 13:31 |
| spiiroin | ... but since that is still not harbor ok: whatever works for you | 13:31 |
| aimless | SfietKonstantinW: thank you very much! I'll go through and try it out. But so far, I solved the issue in a different way. Finally, for my situation there was a very easy way by checking the direction first (see: https://paste.kde.org/pvasxzfr8#). | 13:35 |
| aimless | SfietKonstantinW: But, I also googled a bit more an found out, that it seems to be Qt issue. | 13:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah | 13:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 13:36 |
| aimless | SfietKonstantinW: hence, it is possible that it will be "solved" once :-) | 13:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 13:37 |
| aimless | see that mail message... http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2012-May/002199.html | 13:38 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | aimless: :/ | 13:41 |
| aimless | SfietKonstantinW: But still another thing, how can the list be moved when the dragged element reaches the frame border? (i.e. the list should be scrolled down when the item reachs the top and vice versa) | 13:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | aimless: I *think* that is is supported if you have your drag area configured correctly | 13:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum | 13:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | not working in my side | 13:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ... | 13:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | dunno | 13:43 |
| aimless | hehe... | 13:43 |
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| Ingvix | biggest thing so far to bother me about aquafish that it only has one led color | 19:33 |
| Ingvix | does jollac have multicolor? | 19:34 |
| Dotti | no | 19:34 |
| Ingvix | a shame | 19:34 |
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| fledermaus | gah my jolla rebooted again while I was out running. | 19:53 |
| fledermaus | anyone else seen the thing rebooting unexpectedly or is it just that Im managing to hit the power button? | 19:54 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: yeah if the led was fixed, and the screen colours were richer, then it would be perfect | 19:59 |
| kimmoli | and if it just wouldn't click... damnit | 20:07 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, that | 20:08 |
| Ingvix | certainly odd development | 20:21 |
| r0kk3rz | perhaps the design didnt have enough traces for an rgb led | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | it is the button backlight after all | 20:24 |
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