Friday, 2016-12-02

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justyhi, what is the difference between sfe and sfa?09:05
maljusty: if you mean in the server with ported images then nothing, those point to the same place09:07
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justyOo... Thanks! :)09:08
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malthere was a change in naming a long time ago and the the old was symlinked to the new09:09
justymal: ok. now I am calm :)09:11
justymal: tnx again and bye!09:12
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Ingvixkimmoli, I wasn't sure what you meant before but now I noticed my phone ticking. So it's a common thing? Do you know why it happens? Is it also with JollaC or just Aquafish?11:00
r0kk3rzIngvix: common to both, its the camera clicking, reboot makes it go away until you use the camera again11:02
r0kk3rzalso only really clicks if the main camera is covered by something11:02
Ingvixoh, interesting. Is it a hardware problem or can it possibly be fixed with an system update or something in the future?11:03
r0kk3rzno idea11:04
r0kk3rzits apparently related to data connections and suspending, sounds like a bastard to debug imo11:05
Ingvixokay then11:06
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kimmoliIngvix: what r0kk3rz says.11:27
kimmolisetting camera to infinity works sometimes, but not reliable11:27
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kimmolii can reproduce it by using camera, taking ssh to phone, allow phone to sleep, and typing slowly. it clicks when phone goes back to sleep after receiving char (or something like that)11:30
Krikke:D11:32
Krikkedo you mean that crackling sound from android apps?11:32
kimmolinothing to do with android imho. i have no android support installed.11:33
Krikkeokay, maybe it's a different bug11:33
Krikkeor then I have the wrong association to when it happens11:33
r0kk3rzthats a different bug yeah11:33
r0kk3rzit seems the keypress sound is enabled11:33
Krikkebut sometimes I get this weird sound11:33
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coderushttps://blog.jolla.com/watch/14:32
leszek:)14:41
ZeiPNice!14:41
leszekthough scratching my head. Because I don't see a big future for smartwatches anyway.14:41
r0kk3rzleszek: im sure this was just a 'because they could' type of thing14:44
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kimmoliso, question is what next?14:45
r0kk3rzsailfish smart-oar, for your smart dinghy14:45
tillis it possible to kill an android app/process via shell? and if so, how?14:46
leszekr0kk3rz: hopefully no desperate move to just get new licenses somehow as the current ones aren't paying off. (Intex won't create another SailfishOS phone, TRI seems to be financial dead)14:46
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larstiqit does say it's a demo14:46
kimmolitill: sustemctl stop aliendalvik something?14:46
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kimmolitill: it kill'em all though14:46
tillkimmoli: i only want to kill a specific proccess, not alien dalvik14:46
tillsomething like "killall COMMAND" on linux14:47
leszektill: ps aux | grep ANDROIDAPP and then kill with the ID ?14:47
tillyes, but that's so complicated :) and "pidof" does not seem to work14:48
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leszektill: if you know the exact name you can use pkill with the name14:49
r0kk3rzleszek: TRI have run out of money already? that didnt take long14:50
tilltop/htop lists them as "com.skype.raider" for example, but pkill/killall/pidof won't find a process with that name14:50
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leszekr0kk3rz: either that or someone hacked their facebook page [I don't have facebook I can't check further]: https://www.facebook.com/turingroboticindustries14:52
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r0kk3rzleszek: ah yes, so it seems14:53
r0kk3rzwell thats a shame14:54
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tillpgrep seems to work :)15:06
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spiirointill: there is pidof, but for one or another reason it is in /sbin -> not in path of nemo user by default16:06
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M4rtinKlbt: is there a guide/process description for package updates ?20:23
M4rtinKlbt: I've only found this: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Collaborative_Development#Contributing_The_Change20:23
M4rtinKlbt: and that seems to be aimed more on bug-fixing/adding features20:23
M4rtinKlbt: rather than rebasing packages to a newer version20:24
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M4rtinKlbt: I would like to update PyOtherSide from 1.4 to 1.5 due to improved support for SVG rendering20:27
M4rtinKlbt: and I've found this https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/pyotherside/tree/master20:27
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M4rtinKlbt: but I'm not sure what one is supposed to do with that repo to rebase the package to a newer version20:28
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r0kk3rzM4rtinK: they're doing a lot of package upgrades at the moment, so maybe it'll get done20:48
coderusM4rtinK: what you mean pyotherside 1.520:50
coderuswhere?20:50
M4rtinKcoderus: ?21:01
coderuswhere is pyotherside 1.5???21:01
M4rtinKcoderus: https://github.com/thp/pyotherside/releases/tag/1.5.021:02
M4rtinKreleased back in June21:02
M4rtinKit has quite some nice new features and fixes: https://pyotherside.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#io-thp-pyotherside-1-521:03
coderusomg august! why not yet in release??21:03
M4rtinKlike import improvements and OpenGL rendering21:03
M4rtinKbut I'm mainly after the SVG rendering improvements21:04
M4rtinKhttps://github.com/thp/pyotherside/commit/57a6699727f9ae1961ee6bc7f920d6120a2e600921:05
M4rtinKso I can use SVG icons21:05
M4rtinKon hi-DPI devices, such as Jolla C21:05
M4rtinKcoderus: any idea how a package update/rebase is done in Mer/Sailfish ?21:06
M4rtinKI'm maintaining PyOtherSide on Fedora and there we just add a new upstream tarball, bump the version in spec and add a changelog entry21:07
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M4rtinKbut I think Mer/Sailfish does it differently, right ?21:07
coderusM4rtinK: you create a #MER bug and then fix it with your merge request :)21:08
M4rtinKcoderus: yeah, but what should be in the pull request ?21:15
coderus[packaging] Update to Upstream 1.5.0 version #MER123421:16
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M4rtinKdo you have any examples of such an update/rebase ?21:16
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M4rtinKI'm still not sure what all to include in the PR (all commits from upstream till 1.5 ?) + spec file bump21:21
M4rtinK?21:21
M4rtinKand against which branch I should open the PR21:21
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M4rtinKon a related note - a repository fork should not take 30+ minutes, right ?(https://git.merproject.org/MartinK/pyotherside/import)21:23
r0kk3rzM4rtinK: i dont think its deduped, so for a big repo maybe21:24
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M4rtinKr0kk3rz: repo clone for the pyotherside repo has 956K21:26
M4rtinKr0kk3rz: so something is stuck somewhere probably21:27
r0kk3rzyeah maybe its broke21:29
M4rtinKyay :)21:29
r0kk3rzindeed, looks broke21:31
coderusM4rtinK: and for sure you need to ping thp for details21:32
M4rtinKcoderus: is he even still working on Sailfish OS/Mer ?21:32
M4rtinKcoderus: at least from his GitHub activity & Mer git activity it doesn't look like it21:33
coderusso then create PR and wait for approval/comments21:34
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NokiuisM4rtinK: I heard thp is working for someone else now21:43
M4rtinKcoderus: ok - once the fork finally finishes ;-)21:45
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