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| flesk__ | jakibaki: Yes, that's probably true. | 09:03 |
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| Ingvix | is engineering english based on american or british english? I'm just wondering if I should use "behaviour" or "behavior" for the engineering english translation | 09:31 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: whichever you prefer | 09:33 |
| * tbr has no idea, but seeing how default locale is usually derived from en-US, probably US | 09:33 | |
| Ingvix | okay, I guess I go with US then | 09:33 |
| r0kk3rz | whichever you choose will appear wrong from the other perspective anyway | 09:33 |
| tbr | and engineering english is the rude and straight forward version of C, isn't it? ;) | 09:33 |
| tbr | C as in LANG=C, not the programming language | 09:34 |
| * tbr would be in favour of "over the top british english" and "stereotypical english" locales, just for kicks | 09:36 | |
| * tbr has been watching too much 'Allo 'Allo recently... | 09:36 | |
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| r0kk3rz | tbr: i really should do a bogan australian translation :) | 11:51 |
| tbr | most strings would end with ", mate!" | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | dead set | 11:53 |
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| louisdk | Anybody in here tried to upgrade a J1 from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2 and got the message that it failed? | 15:59 |
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| kimmoli | try again? if still fails, see /var/log/systemboot.log and check what package prevents update | 16:44 |
| kimmoli | err. systemupdate.log | 16:45 |
| kimmoli | louisdk: ^ | 16:45 |
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| Ingvix | how do I create a translation string for a value text where the value is changing? I can't really just use 'value + qsTrId(localized_unit) if in some languages it's more natual to have it before the value | 18:27 |
| r0kk3rz | example? | 18:31 |
| r0kk3rz | SfietKonstantinW: btw i fixed the weird cert issue on my device and now twablet works great | 18:31 |
| Ingvix | I don't know any language but I wouldn't want to leave it out of consideration | 18:32 |
| Domo_ | would not have noticed, but during dnf update | 18:32 |
| Domo_ | sorry | 18:32 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: ok so you're trying to cover a case that you cant think of a specific example of? | 18:33 |
| louisdk | kimmoli: thx. Will look at the logs. | 18:36 |
| Ingvix | r0kk3rz, well, probably not something you'd need in sfos but first example of such would be "[value] of his childen" which in finnish could preferably be "hänen [value] lastaan] | 18:36 |
| Ingvix | " | 18:36 |
| Ingvix | first that came to my mind | 18:37 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: i would guess that in each of your translations you have a placeholder, which you then pick out and swap for the value afterwards | 18:37 |
| kimmoli | tr("Foo %1").arg(myPlaceholder); | 18:38 |
| Ingvix | hmm | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | iirc it goes similarly with trid | 18:39 |
| Ingvix | so %1 is replaced with myPlaceholder in that string? | 18:40 |
| Ingvix | or its value | 18:40 |
| Ingvix | trying to get my head around this thing | 18:41 |
| kimmoli | yes | 18:41 |
| Ingvix | okay, thanks | 18:41 |
| r0kk3rz | qstr returns a string right? put something in that returned string that you can regex or .replace | 18:41 |
| kimmoli | %1 is your place holder, and argumented value from code | 18:41 |
| kimmoli | if you use qsTrId() (which i prefer) you use | 18:42 |
| kimmoli | qsTrId("my-string-id").arg(value); | 18:42 |
| nh1402 | how do i fix this error https://bpaste.net/show/c12edabd60cd | 18:43 |
| Ingvix | I figured it's the same | 18:43 |
| kimmoli | and my-string-id trnaslation is "foo %1 bar", "kissa %1 koira" | 18:44 |
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| kimmoli | %1 (or value) can be anything, string for a filename, number, ... | 18:45 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: or like, read the documentation http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-internationalization.html | 18:45 |
| Ingvix | yes, I understood everything already | 18:46 |
| Ingvix | at least I think I did | 18:46 |
| Ingvix | though what would be a proper short for that kind of string? I mean to use in the id | 18:46 |
| Ingvix | should I just go with label as la | 18:47 |
| kimmoli | https://translate.sailfishos.org/fi/declarative-transferengine-qt5/translate/sailfish_transferengine.ts#unit=79346 | 18:47 |
| kimmoli | you can look for inspiration here | 18:47 |
| Ingvix | in my case it's Slider's valueText which I'm currently wondering | 18:48 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/blob/master/settings-ui/i18n/engineering_en.ts#L275 | 18:49 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/tohkbd2/blob/608027e1d9299a1a02641ee753496ba669a6c3d7/settings-ui/qml/pages/GeneralSettings.qml#L96 | 18:50 |
| kimmoli | //: is comment, //% is the "engineering english" text which is showm when there is no translation available | 18:51 |
| Ingvix | yes, I know all of that. It's just that I've bee trying to keep the same form as in sfos's own translation strings which usually contain la, he or me in the middle of the id string | 18:53 |
| Ingvix | not that it matters in practise | 18:53 |
| Ingvix | just trying to keep the constancy | 18:53 |
| Ingvix | and those short forms are so far the only ones I've seen so I wondered if this kind of string had some own short | 18:55 |
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| Ingvix | couldn't find a matching case from the system so I guess I just make a decision on my own here | 18:57 |
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| kimmoli | have you found out what la he me stands for? | 19:01 |
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| Ingvix | yes, probably label, header and menu item or something | 19:02 |
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| kimmoli | lol, heh and meh | 20:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | lanthanum, helium, and .... me isnt an element :( | 20:05 |
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| kimmoli | Mendelevium (but it is Md) | 20:09 |
| r0kk3rz | and mercury | 20:12 |
| kimmoli | freddie | 20:15 |
| r0kk3rz | :( freddie | 20:16 |
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