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| Tazy | is there a way to debug on boot, similar to android's adb logcat ? | 02:17 |
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| Tazy | since if i boot with sdcard inserted, i a stuck at the sony logo. | 02:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | Tazy: that will pop way early, so aside from pstore log or uart, theres not much you can do | 07:47 |
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| * rydare waits patiently for his Xperia X to arrive | 16:04 | |
| tadzik | (soon) one of us, one of us... | 16:07 |
| rydare | anything i should know going into it? | 16:35 |
| rydare | I am going to call my bank and see what version of Android is required for their app | 16:35 |
| rydare | i think that's the main app i need | 16:35 |
| tadzik | see if it requires google play services | 16:36 |
| rydare | it's available on one of the recommended app store | 16:36 |
| rydare | aptoide? or something like that | 16:36 |
| tadzik | so is Uber, but it doesn't work anyway | 16:36 |
| tadzik | (because of gps) | 16:36 |
| fledermaus | I tried to run uber on my J1 and it failed to get past its first screen thingy for some reason. | 16:39 |
| tadzik | I use it through firefox, works alright | 16:40 |
| tadzik | (they have a functioning mobile website, believe it or not) | 16:40 |
| fledermaus | orly. | 16:42 |
| fledermaus | how unusual in this day and age. | 16:42 |
| tadzik | not fully-featured, but does its job | 16:42 |
| tadzik | (you can't rate drivers, for instance) | 16:42 |
| rydare | facebook intentionally gimps their mobile website to force you to install the app | 16:42 |
| tadzik | you can on the desktop website, interestingly enough :) | 16:42 |
| rydare | i do use messenger sometimes | 16:42 |
| fledermaus | twitter is getting pgressively less usable for me on mobile browser - clicks go to random tweets, I can't actually type a new tweet, every word I type gets eaten by the JS as soon as I start a new word so I can tweet a max of one word | 16:43 |
| rydare | The | 16:44 |
| fledermaus | *snort* | 16:44 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah sfos browser is getting a bit old | 16:48 |
| rydare | best browser? | 16:48 |
| tadzik | I use firefox | 16:49 |
| tadzik | webcat seems like a maintained native alternative, but it renders some website wrongly that even the sailfish browser does right | 16:49 |
| tadzik | I haven't reported it as a bug though, so I probably shouldn't complain :) | 16:50 |
| rydare | lol | 16:50 |
| fledermaus | tadzik: sadly webcat release 1 was great but [for me] release to has been an unmitigated car crash | 16:58 |
| fledermaus | release 2* | 16:59 |
| fledermaus | much worse at page rendering/resizing/scrolling than r1 (and sfos browser) and unable to use the file picker to upload files. | 16:59 |
| fledermaus | I had great hopes for webcat. maybe r3 will be better. | 17:00 |
| fledermaus | tadzik: is there ff for sfos (J1)? | 17:00 |
| xenu | firefox? no, but android version works fine on my xperia | 17:01 |
| xenu | sadly sailfish has no good native browsers | 17:01 |
| xenu | sailfish browser is based on firefox 38 engine which means it's *extremely* outdated | 17:02 |
| xenu | webcat is no better because webkit in our qt version is old too | 17:02 |
| tadzik | fledermaus: I use the android version | 17:03 |
| fledermaus | I may have to try that, | 17:04 |
| fledermaus | current situation is approaching the untenable. | 17:04 |
| fledermaus | I wonder how hard it would be to run up an ff package for sfos. | 17:05 |
| xenu | it's sad, imo browser is the most important thing in a smartphone | 17:05 |
| fledermaus | it's pretty important, yeah. | 17:05 |
| tadzik | fledermaus: I remember a discussion from fosdem, I think the blocker for new firefox is the old gcc SFOS is using | 17:06 |
| xenu | well today firefox uses rust, which probably complicates things even more | 17:06 |
| elros | you can always run chromium in chroot (debian, ubuntu...) | 17:07 |
| r0kk3rz | you can work around gcc issues | 17:18 |
| r0kk3rz | i started collecting deps for a firefox-wayland build | 17:18 |
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| rydare | just got off the phone with my bank, the app should work, and he thanked me for telling him about Sailfish as he'd never heard of it before | 17:46 |
| rydare | is there a way to look at the jolla sailfish native apps in a browser? | 17:47 |
| tadzik | no :( | 17:48 |
| tadzik | except for openrepos | 17:48 |
| tadzik | https://openrepos.net/ | 17:48 |
| tadzik | this is where most of the good stuff is anyway :P | 17:48 |
| rydare | tadzik, thanks for the response. any downside to using openrepo? I read something about it in the update notes to a newish sailfish version, something about having to uninstall the applications to update Sailfish? | 17:52 |
| tadzik | rydare: occasionaly they'd even uninstall themselves :P Jolla updated packagekit a while ago, which made the old openrepos client (warehouse) not work, so it got autoremoved on system update | 17:54 |
| tadzik | normally you don't need to manually uninstall anything | 17:54 |
| tadzik | as for downsides, with how limited jolla store is, using openrepos is pretty much unavoidable | 17:54 |
| tadzik | one of my apps uses a map. With QML, adding a Map to your app is importing a thing and putting a Map {} component in. Jolla however disallows the usage of that API in their jolla store | 17:55 |
| tadzik | so I have my app on openrepos, and a gimped version for the jolla store that tells people to use openrepos if they wanna use a map | 17:55 |
| rydare | interesting | 17:56 |
| rydare | so you use a client app to install openrepo stuff like an app store? is it more like a repository you interact with using the package manager? | 17:56 |
| tadzik | it's a nice easy app :) | 17:56 |
| tadzik | https://openrepos.net/content/osetr/storeman | 17:57 |
| tadzik | screenshots at the bottom | 17:57 |
| rydare | oooh that blur | 17:58 |
| rydare | i'm excited for sailfish | 17:58 |
| rydare | i should have paid an extra quarter of the price for rush shipping | 17:58 |
| rydare | but then i'd probably have to pay more for import duties | 17:58 |
| rydare | on my xperia x | 17:58 |
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