Thursday, 2018-08-23

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rogueomegahello folks00:44
rogueomegaanyone around?00:44
rogueomegaDoing research for open source / alternative sustainability important/significant was selling the os roms to sailfish project?00:45
rogueomegaanyone who can answer that question? who is somewhat close to the numbers?00:45
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sledgesPSA: sfos community collab @ #mer-meeting happening ATM (at-the-moment)08:06
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chriadamleszek: I can't talk in the meeting channel for some reason, so replying here: thank you for your honesty and openness.  it's an opinion we need to hear, and I know that your frustration with the lack of progress on the opensourcing front is being heard internally.08:24
r0kk3rzthanks chriadam :)08:25
leszekchriadam: good to hear. Its not my uniq impressions. Visiting akademy for example I met many dissappointed Jolla 1 and Jolla C owners with the same opinion08:26
chriadamspeaking personally: I share that frustration.  I personally see this NDA process as a possible stepping stone (e.g. show board/investors the value and scope of community contribution)08:26
chriadambut let us see what happens.08:27
r0kk3rzthe idea that nobody in jolla cares about open sourcing is false btw, plenty of people care but they also arent calling the shots08:27
sledgeschriadam: try to reconnect to your IRC (and then re-identify with NickServ), worked for me08:28
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chriadamI don't think I ever bothered to register my nick with nickserv08:30
r0kk3rzthat'd be way then08:32
sledgesthen you should try ;) Freenode enforced +R on nicks since yesterday08:33
leszekr0kk3rz: I know about people caring in Jolla. The problem is the impression on the outside.08:33
r0kk3rztbh i dont think it will ever happen, and im ok with that08:35
r0kk3rzif you arent, there are plenty of fully open source projects to work with08:35
sledgesor like chriadam said, we'll walk up to the board and show them how valuable and time saving such (NDA) contributions are, that we should open up08:36
r0kk3rzsledges: i dont expect too many people will want to work for free on closed code08:36
r0kk3rzyou want me to work on closed stuff, you can pay me :)08:36
sledgesthat's why we don't expect more than 1-2 developers per our proposed tasks :)08:36
sledgesno need to interview/compete between :D08:37
r0kk3rzso its like an unpaid internship ;)08:38
chriadamI personally do see this as a way to let people who want to contribute to closed side (in order to fix specific issues they care about), where previously no such way existed.  I personally hope that this will result in progress on the open-source front, but that remains to be seen.08:40
chriadamof course I expect the pool of people who are willing to do so to be quite small, that's definitely understandable.08:41
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