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akaWolf | r0kk3rz: https://blog.jolla.com/new-strategic-investor-joins-sailfish-family/ | 09:58 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah there you go | 10:03 |
Lectem_ | Hi guys, so I was trying to find why my phone is eating so much battery, and it turns out that even when you change to another app, android apps will not go to sleep | 11:04 |
Lectem_ | For example: I start firefox (android app), go to the terminal, start top, firefox is still eating a lot of CPU while it should be sleeping | 11:05 |
Lectem_ | I also saw that the App list (with the thumbnails), will always display in realtime all the android apps.... | 11:05 |
Lectem_ | instead of putting them to sleep and then waking them up when you click them | 11:06 |
Lectem_ | (this can be seen easily if you play a video for example, the thumbnail will keep playing the video) | 11:06 |
r0kk3rz | yep | 11:07 |
r0kk3rz | thats what full multitasking means | 11:07 |
Lectem_ | meh | 11:09 |
Lectem_ | that sucks for the battery | 11:09 |
tadzik | I just close my apps when I don't need them :) | 11:11 |
tadzik | but yeah, there's probably a useful middle ground when something is still ready to go but not milling the cpu | 11:11 |
r0kk3rz | yeah android apps in particular are meant to be backgrounded | 11:14 |
r0kk3rz | but, sfos is proper multitasking, and im sure theres lots of people that like that their programs arent stopped when not in focus like on other systems | 11:14 |
leinir | indeed, this sort of thing is what's generally called a "feature" ;) | 11:16 |
Lectem_ | for sfos apps perhaps | 11:16 |
Lectem_ | but for android apps ran in sf... | 11:16 |
Lectem_ | kind of seem like an antifeature in case of android apps | 11:19 |
leinir | It does seem like one of those things you might want to have an option for... i'd personally like to be able to keep the background run ability, but i can see why you might not want that | 11:21 |
tadzik | maybe they could have a cover button to pause/unpause them :) | 11:22 |
Lectem_ | android apps have services designed exactly for this kind of things | 11:22 |
Lectem_ | I mean, just think about the media apps | 11:22 |
Lectem_ | it works just fine but don't render for nothing | 11:22 |
tadzik | ehh, my experience with android apps is that they only seem to do that sometimes, though my last experience was about 5 years ago :) | 11:26 |
tadzik | I remember google maps gave up trying to find a gps fix because disabling the screen obviously means that I don't care | 11:27 |
tadzik | and it took a while to get a fix on that phone, that's why I figured I'd start the app earlier | 11:28 |
Lectem_ | those kind of issues have mostly been fixed, and new android versions do support multitasking, but I think the issue here has more to do with alien-dalvik than SFOS perhaps | 11:30 |
Lectem_ | it's kind of dumb to do the rendering of an app if it's not displayed, we're not even doing that on PCs... | 11:30 |
r0kk3rz | it is displayed though, the cover is a wayland window | 11:31 |
Lectem_ | in the case when I use the terminal app ? | 11:40 |
Lectem_ | it shouldn't | 11:40 |
Lectem_ | perhaps for the thumbnails, but not when another app is in use | 11:40 |
Lectem_ | is there some autoclose app known to be working ? | 11:56 |
r0kk3rz | auto close app? | 11:56 |
Lectem_ | yeah, something that closes apps if not used for X time or something | 12:03 |
Lectem_ | to at least mitigate my battery issues... | 12:04 |
akaWolf | r0kk3rz: I read about major block of shared, which controls Rostelecom... | 12:19 |
ghosalmartin | anyone had the small black bar at the top appear saying the wrong values have been inputed? | 12:28 |
bernte | Which SailfishOS app is good for car navigation? Are the integrated maps ok, or would somebody recommend an Android app? | 21:01 |
bernte | It looks like the answer at 'together' is a bit old. | 21:01 |
tadzik | I go with Here Wego | 21:02 |
tadzik | I tried the sailfish native ones, got routed through a city instead of highway, scored a ~120€ speeding ticket, wouldn't recommend :P | 21:03 |
raa700 | \o/ | 21:03 |
tadzik | I use whogo/puremaps for the on-foot stuff sometimes | 21:03 |
bernte | Is Here Wego available outside of Google Play? | 21:03 |
tadzik | yes | 21:04 |
tadzik | it's even in Jolla Store | 21:04 |
bernte | tadzik, thanks for the info | 21:04 |
tadzik | you're welcome, drive safe :) | 21:05 |
bernte | One more: Anybody using "Duo Mobile" on Sailfish OS? That is used by work for 2FA ... | 21:11 |
tadzik | never heard of it | 21:12 |
bernte | Neither did I until a couple of months ago, when they moved away from RSA tokens. | 21:15 |
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