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| Wikiwide | Going by glibc, Sailfish OS 3.2.1.20 is somewhere between openSUSE 15.1 and 15.10. That sounds great. | 02:14 |
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| Wikiwide | /me should check back-scroll, but will do it later | 02:15 |
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| Oksana | Hmm, nothing missed. But then, humans mights be off-line during weekends... | 04:15 |
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| zenkuro | Wikiwide: sailfish is an opensuse? | 15:08 |
| Nico[m] | No | 15:15 |
| Oksana | They just have same package format, rpm. | 20:01 |
| zenkuro | but anyway, what distro sailfish is clode too? | 20:05 |
| Dakon | based on mer | 20:05 |
| Nico[m] | Well, it is its own independent distro, based on mer | 20:06 |
| Nico[m] | mer is a result of Meego/Harmattan | 20:06 |
| Nico[m] | Which was a merger of Moblin and Meego, I think? | 20:06 |
| Nico[m] | One of them was based on debian and the other on Fedora or so, but I may misremembering that | 20:07 |
| Nico[m] | It didn't even use RPM initially, Meego/Harmattan used debs, it only changed that later | 20:07 |
| Nico[m] | So comparing it to other RPM based distributions may be misleading | 20:08 |
| Oksana | Harmattan may also be known as Maemo 6, and Maemo is Debian-based. | 20:08 |
| Nico[m] | Ah, yeah, Maemo was it | 20:09 |
| Oksana | Or, since Maemo usually doesn't use systemd, Devuan-based, but that's semantics. | 20:11 |
| Nico[m] | Well, at the time Debian didn't use systemds | 20:11 |
| Nico[m] | *systemd | 20:11 |
| Nico[m] | I don't think systemd was even really a thing at the time | 20:12 |
| Oksana | SailfishOS does use systemd, for the record. | 20:12 |
| Oksana | Yes, the distinction is of importance mostly for Maemo 7 Leste. | 20:13 |
| Nico[m] | So anyway, I think you could say, Sailfish isn't close to any of the desktop distributions anymore | 20:15 |
| Nico[m] | Although it does support zypper as a package manager and OBS, like OpenSUSE, that is only a tool used on it and not a significant relation to OpenSUSE | 20:15 |
| Oksana | lbt: Could you please register me on the Community Bugzilla so that I would be able to log in to SailfishOS Open Build Service and submit a package to be built? Thank you! | 20:15 |
| * Oksana is Wikiwide, for the record | 20:17 | |
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| r0kk3rz | mer is no longer a seperate entity, so its easier to just say that sailfish is its own thing, built from source | 22:48 |
| r0kk3rz | any similarities to other linux distros is only by chance | 22:48 |
| r0kk3rz | although generally if you want to package something, fedora specs are a good start | 22:49 |
| mal | yep, as mentioned in blog mer is no more https://blog.jolla.com/message-in-a-bottle/ | 22:50 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: usually either fedora or opensuse are good starting points for packaging, I think I have used fedora specs more | 22:51 |
| r0kk3rz | i find suse specs needs more cleanup because they often have a lot of suse specific flags | 22:57 |
| mal | yes | 23:11 |
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