| Kabouik | That gives me hope r0kk3rz, and at the same time it frightens me. I'm not a coder at all, just went into a procrastination frenzy in the last few days which made me want to learn how to package rpms | 00:00 |
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| Kabouik | But that's about the extent of my knowledge | 00:00 |
| Nico[m] | Well, I doubt, that they would support that :D | 00:00 |
| r0kk3rz | they arent going to support a way out of date wayland protocol | 00:00 |
| Kabouik | Maybe they could give me some guidelines on what to look for in the sources | 00:00 |
| Nico[m] | Just grep for wm_base and remove everything, that references that :D | 00:01 |
| r0kk3rz | ask them to package a flatpak instead | 00:01 |
| r0kk3rz | Nico[m]: yeah dont do that :P | 00:01 |
| Nico[m] | r0kk3rz: why not? :D | 00:02 |
| Nico[m] | Does a plain wl_surface not work? | 00:02 |
| Kabouik | Actually that's an idea r0kk3rz. Any flatpak terminal confirmed to work yet? | 00:03 |
| r0kk3rz | they should | 00:03 |
| r0kk3rz | you can try it out | 00:03 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure if flatpak would sandbox the terminal though | 00:03 |
| Kabouik | I have Flatpak installed but it's an older version, I'm not sure how to update it. I'll look into that | 00:03 |
| r0kk3rz | should just be a case of updating the packages | 00:04 |
| Kabouik | The .rpm you mean? I'll go check the github out | 00:06 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 00:07 |
| r0kk3rz | they should all be on obs | 00:07 |
| r0kk3rz | just add the repo | 00:07 |
| r0kk3rz | https://build.sailfishos.org/project/show/home:rinigus:flatpak | 00:07 |
| r0kk3rz | im not seeing any terminals on flathub though, which doesnt bode well | 00:08 |
| Kabouik | Sorry r0kk3rz, this is a bit stupid but how should I add the repo? | 00:20 |
| Kabouik | I suspect it's not a repo to add in zypper, right? Actually wait I'll just refresh my brain and read the doc | 00:21 |
| r0kk3rz | its exactly that | 00:22 |
| r0kk3rz | ssu ar flatpak http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/rinigus:/flatpak/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/ | 00:22 |
| r0kk3rz | then you can do zypper refresh flatpak, and zypper install flatpak flatpak-runner | 00:23 |
| Kabouik | Right, doing it right now | 00:24 |
| Kabouik | I'm just not use with picking a SFOS app outside the harbour store or openrepos | 00:27 |
| Kabouik | And the main flatpak manager is a SFOS app | 00:27 |
| Kabouik | used* | 00:27 |
| r0kk3rz | getting things from obs is useful, beats compiling things on device | 00:30 |
| Kabouik | Yep, but you got to know what you're looking for, while I usually candidly browse openrepos or Storeman to try new apps | 00:31 |
| Kabouik | I see no Flatpak terminal-emulator either | 00:39 |
| Kabouik | Sad | 00:39 |
| Kabouik | I had no idea OBS could do all this, I should ask for registration | 00:52 |
| Kabouik | Even though I'm not a developer, I am starting to like building things on SFOS | 00:52 |
| r0kk3rz | if you know how to package things, then obs is quite useful | 00:53 |
| Kabouik | I know since 3 days | 00:53 |
| ol | https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main | 00:53 |
| Kabouik | Well, not the best way. I write my own spec files by hand, but I know there should be a way to auotmate things from yaml or something | 00:53 |
| r0kk3rz | dont do that | 00:54 |
| r0kk3rz | just write a spec | 00:54 |
| r0kk3rz | its not difficult | 00:54 |
| Kabouik | That's what I did | 00:54 |
| r0kk3rz | for more complicated packages you can grab one from fedora or opensuse | 00:54 |
| Kabouik | Anyway I just built CLI tools so far, which saved me from the kind of hassle I'm getting now with havoc and xdg_something | 00:54 |
| Kabouik | Not related: Falkon Browser flatpak works | 00:58 |
| Kabouik | It gives more of a desktop experience than Angelfish, which is perfect for the Pro¹ | 00:58 |
| Kabouik | I still prefer desktop Firefox in a LXC Debian container, but here a desktop browser outside a container is nice too | 00:59 |
| Kabouik | I may have spoken too fast. It works but I'm having touch issues after some time (I suspect it's due to a suggestion popup when I type something), and can't confirm my searches or URL with Enter. | 01:01 |
| Kabouik | Konsole works, but jeez, about 600 MB | 01:29 |
| Kabouik | But anyway it works! | 01:29 |
| Kabouik | The only issue is everything is sandboxed due to Flatpak, so I have no access to my SFOS / and /home | 01:36 |
| Oksana | Is there any RDP client for Sailfish OS? I know of "Presence VNC", but that's VNC, different protocol. | 01:38 |
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| Kabouik | Woot. Konsole now works with full bash access to the sfos system, including binaries! Got some help on the Fxtec Discord. Will post all that in TMO | 01:57 |
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| rinigus | Kabouik: fyi, you may run into the same unsupported wm compositor protocol on flatpak as well. We use the same old qtwayland as sfos | 05:20 |
| r0kk3rz | rinigus: didnt you do some nested compositor fu to fix that? | 05:52 |
| r0kk3rz | well 'fix' | 05:52 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: no, not really. we do fix somethings with nested compositor (minimizing and restoring), but, for simplicity, I kept the same qtwayland | 06:01 |
| rinigus | as it's on SFOS side | 06:01 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah theres nothing we can really do about that until its upgraded | 06:02 |
| rinigus | hence the requirement of qt apps - those still support ancient wayland protocols | 06:02 |
| r0kk3rz | whenever that qt upgrade comes | 06:02 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: we can, in theory (try to draw compositor on opengl surface or something similar), but I don't want to get into it | 06:02 |
| rinigus | so, qt update is, indeed, what I wait for | 06:03 |
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