Wednesday, 2020-05-27

KabouikThat gives me hope r0kk3rz, and at the same time it frightens me. I'm not a coder at all, just went into a procrastination frenzy in the last few days which made me want to learn how to package rpms00:00
KabouikBut that's about the extent of my knowledge00:00
Nico[m]Well, I doubt, that they would support that :D00:00
r0kk3rzthey arent going to support a way out of date wayland protocol00:00
KabouikMaybe they could give me some guidelines on what to look for in the sources00:00
Nico[m]Just grep for wm_base and remove everything, that references that :D00:01
r0kk3rzask them to package a flatpak instead00:01
r0kk3rzNico[m]: yeah dont do that :P00:01
Nico[m]r0kk3rz: why not? :D00:02
Nico[m]Does a plain wl_surface not work?00:02
KabouikActually that's an idea r0kk3rz. Any flatpak terminal confirmed to work yet?00:03
r0kk3rzthey should00:03
r0kk3rzyou can try it out00:03
r0kk3rznot sure if flatpak would sandbox the terminal though00:03
KabouikI have Flatpak installed but it's an older version, I'm not sure how to update it. I'll look into that00:03
r0kk3rzshould just be a case of updating the packages00:04
KabouikThe .rpm you mean? I'll go check the github out00:06
r0kk3rzthey should all be on obs00:07
r0kk3rzjust add the repo00:07
r0kk3rzim not seeing any terminals on flathub though, which doesnt bode well00:08
KabouikSorry r0kk3rz, this is a bit stupid but how should I add the repo?00:20
KabouikI suspect it's not a repo to add in zypper, right? Actually wait I'll just refresh my brain and read the doc00:21
r0kk3rzits exactly that00:22
r0kk3rzssu ar flatpak
r0kk3rzthen you can do zypper refresh flatpak, and zypper install flatpak flatpak-runner00:23
KabouikRight, doing it right now00:24
KabouikI'm just not use with picking a SFOS app outside the harbour store or openrepos00:27
KabouikAnd the main flatpak manager is a SFOS app00:27
r0kk3rzgetting things from obs is useful, beats compiling things on device00:30
KabouikYep, but you got to know what you're looking for, while I usually candidly browse openrepos or Storeman to try new apps00:31
KabouikI see no Flatpak terminal-emulator either00:39
KabouikI had no idea OBS could do all this, I should ask for registration00:52
KabouikEven though I'm not a developer, I am starting to like building things on SFOS00:52
r0kk3rzif you know how to package things, then obs is quite useful00:53
KabouikI know since 3 days00:53
KabouikWell, not the best way. I write my own spec files by hand, but I know there should be a way to auotmate things from yaml or something00:53
r0kk3rzdont do that00:54
r0kk3rzjust write a spec00:54
r0kk3rzits not difficult00:54
KabouikThat's what I did00:54
r0kk3rzfor more complicated packages you can grab one from fedora or opensuse00:54
KabouikAnyway I just built CLI tools so far, which saved me from the kind of hassle I'm getting now with havoc and xdg_something00:54
KabouikNot related: Falkon Browser flatpak works00:58
KabouikIt gives more of a desktop experience than Angelfish, which is perfect for the Pro┬╣00:58
KabouikI still prefer desktop Firefox in a LXC Debian container, but here a desktop browser outside a container is nice too00:59
KabouikI may have spoken too fast. It works but I'm having touch issues after some time (I suspect it's due to a suggestion popup when I type something), and can't confirm my searches or URL with Enter.01:01
KabouikKonsole works, but jeez, about 600 MB01:29
KabouikBut anyway it works!01:29
KabouikThe only issue is everything is sandboxed due to Flatpak, so I have no access to my SFOS / and /home01:36
OksanaIs there any RDP client for Sailfish OS? I know of "Presence VNC", but that's VNC, different protocol.01:38
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KabouikWoot. Konsole now works with full bash access to the sfos system, including binaries! Got some help on the Fxtec Discord. Will post all that in TMO01:57
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rinigusKabouik: fyi, you may run into the same unsupported wm compositor protocol on flatpak as well. We use the same old qtwayland as sfos05:20
r0kk3rzrinigus: didnt you do some nested compositor fu to fix that?05:52
r0kk3rzwell 'fix'05:52
rinigusr0kk3rz: no, not really. we do fix somethings with nested compositor (minimizing and restoring), but, for simplicity, I kept the same qtwayland06:01
rinigusas it's on SFOS side06:01
r0kk3rzyeah theres nothing we can really do about that until its upgraded06:02
rinigushence the requirement of qt apps - those still support ancient wayland protocols06:02
r0kk3rzwhenever that qt upgrade comes06:02
rinigusr0kk3rz: we can, in theory (try to draw compositor on opengl surface or something similar), but I don't want to get into it06:02
rinigusso, qt update is, indeed, what I wait for06:03
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