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| dcaliste | Hello chriadam, sorry to be so late today. | 07:27 |
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| chriadam | hi dcaliste, no problem at all | 07:27 |
| chriadam | I hope your week has gone well? | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | My week was fine, thank you. I've seen you've been very busy with the QtPim update. | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | Did you manage to make it Qt6 compliant by the way ? | 07:28 |
| chriadam | yes... and that will continue for a little while yet, unfortunately, as I broke some things | 07:28 |
| chriadam | no, just started on the Qt6 porting today - quite some journey ahead of me yet | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | With a big update like that, that's to be expected unfortunately... We'll have similar trouble when KCalCore will be done. | 07:29 |
| chriadam | indeed | 07:29 |
| dcaliste | About the Qt6 upgrade, to you have any toList() or toSet() to change in the code base ? | 07:30 |
| chriadam | https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtpim/+/292180 | 07:31 |
| dcaliste | Ah, good point, using values() is a smart replacement, instead of the range constructor. | 07:32 |
| chriadam | I am grateful that LarsS and EdW have been helping me with some of this already | 07:32 |
| dcaliste | Too bad there's nothing for the toSet(), using range constructors is adding a lot of boiler plate in my opinion. | 07:33 |
| dcaliste | Particularly, sometimes, the object it applies to is not a local variable, but the result of a call… | 07:33 |
| chriadam | yes :-( | 07:33 |
| dcaliste | Anyway, thanks for the tips, I'll update my commit to use this values() function. | 07:34 |
| chriadam | reminds me, I haven't yet had a chance to look at your mer QMF PR - perhaps pvuorela or flypig has had time? IIRC it was what we'd already discussed and agreed with anyway | 07:35 |
| dcaliste | Yes, it's just to be sure that it will go into next SailfishOS, because I'm feeling that the upstream upgrade to Qt6 will take quite a while… | 07:35 |
| dcaliste | I'm going to use this replacement also for QDateTime(QDate): https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtpim/+/310491/2 | 07:36 |
| chriadam | I still haven't fully digested Edward's explanation, but I assume he's right ;-) | 07:38 |
| flypig | Sorry, I didn't have time to look at the QMF PR (and I'm still pushing to get the Calendar UI error changes integrated). | 07:38 |
| dcaliste | Thanks flypig. | 07:38 |
| chriadam | I haven't yet reviewed the caldav PR either. is that one dependent on anything which hasn't been merged yet, or is it now standalone? | 07:39 |
| dcaliste | No, this caldav MR is now standalone. | 07:39 |
| chriadam | great | 07:39 |
| chriadam | I can't promise to review it this week | 07:40 |
| chriadam | but next week, definitely. | 07:40 |
| dcaliste | Great, thank you chriadam. | 07:40 |
| dcaliste | There is also the buteo-syncfw MR (https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/buteo-syncfw/merge_requests/51) about extending log possibility to list changed items. | 07:42 |
| dcaliste | Currently this one is a standalone also, because I didn't work on the caldav side to actually these new logging possibilities. | 07:43 |
| chriadam | the PR LGTM, but perhaps we will wait until some plugin actually uses the new API before merging, in case some issue is discovered | 07:44 |
| chriadam | do you have a preference? | 07:44 |
| dcaliste | I agree, that's safer like that. It will allow to actually test the design further, even if I did it with the caldav plugin in mind ;) | 07:45 |
| chriadam | cool | 07:45 |
| chriadam | I have been so focused on the contacts side this last month that I haven't really progressed your items further, unfortunately. hopefully back to more normalish soon. | 07:46 |
| chriadam | due to that, I don't really have anything else to discuss today. did you have other topics? | 07:47 |
| chriadam | or did I forget something else which needs discussion or follow up from our last meeting? | 07:47 |
| dcaliste | Thanks, no problem. No nothing much firther. I'm going to update some of the MR on Qt6 upgrade of QMF following how it was done for QtPim. | 07:48 |
| chriadam | excellent, thanks. I hope it won't take me too long to get QtPIM building, but let's see. | 07:48 |
| chriadam | in regards to next week's meeting: I expect I will be available, however I have been called back for jury duty starting tomorrow, so if I get empanelled and the trial goes for more than a few days, I may not be here next Tuesday | 07:49 |
| chriadam | but my assumption at this stage is that I will be available, but let's see. | 07:49 |
| chriadam | I will send you an email next Monday evening if my expectation changes. | 07:49 |
| chriadam | aside from that, thanks again for your efforts and your patience :-) | 07:50 |
| dcaliste | Sure, no problem. Since some days, I've got upsyncing events that shift of one or two hours. That's really strange. Maybe due to various OS update and not all stack is now on devel with various patches. I need to investigate. Strange because it has worked for two months without any issues. | 07:50 |
| chriadam | uh oh | 07:50 |
| dcaliste | Yeh :/ Need to investigate. I noticed it yesterday. | 07:50 |
| chriadam | is there a DST transition? | 07:50 |
| chriadam | or just random? | 07:50 |
| dcaliste | No, not before the end of next month. | 07:50 |
| chriadam | I will ask our testers if they have seen something similar | 07:50 |
| dcaliste | I think it's related to my setup. I'll keep you informed. | 07:51 |
| chriadam | thanks | 07:51 |
| chriadam | ok, if nothing else to discuss, let's end the meeting for tonight. I hope you have a great week! | 07:52 |
| dcaliste | As I said, exact same manipulations have worked for months. But kcalcore, mkcal, caldav need to be from devel, and when upgrading they are redownloaded to actual Jolla versions of the current OS. | 07:52 |
| chriadam | let's see what our internal testers say also | 07:52 |
| dcaliste | So maybe, some packages are not in devel anymore on my device. | 07:52 |
| chriadam | yes, maybe some change had an unintended effect | 07:52 |
| chriadam | I am interested to find out ;-) | 07:53 |
| dcaliste | Let see. If we meet again next Tuesday, I'll tell you what happen. | 07:53 |
| chriadam | thank you | 07:53 |
| * chriadam -> away, gnight :-) | 07:54 | |
| peperjohnny | hey guys. 3.4.0.22 was suggested to me and after updating I'm stuck with a black screen. I'm able to get in via SSH and I get the following error "Error: Medium not attached: plugin:/ssu?repo=adaptation0" | 11:59 |
| peperjohnny | I get this error with setting version and a "version --dup" | 12:00 |
| Nico[m] | Oh, 3.4 is out? Nice! | 12:01 |
| ahappyhuman | Nice! | 12:01 |
| Nico[m] | Browser update, rust support nice :3 | 12:02 |
| peperjohnny | be wary maybe the servers are overloaded and that's why I get the error :< | 12:02 |
| ViGe | peperjohnny: Do you have any packages installed from non-official sources, e.g. openrepos? | 12:04 |
| peperjohnny | yup, I do | 12:05 |
| peperjohnny | ViGe ^ | 12:06 |
| ViGe | My guess is that your issue is caused by one of them. Since you still have ssh connection, you could try uninstalling them one by one | 12:06 |
| ViGe | peperjohnny: And if you find out which package it was, please let us know! | 12:07 |
| * Nico[m] goes to break his phone with 3.4 | 12:07 | |
| peperjohnny | Well I'll check | 12:07 |
| Nico[m] | Hm, the release note link is dead, I guess it will come online at some point? | 12:09 |
| peperjohnny | I'm just wondering because of the adaption0 repo error | 12:09 |
| mkolman | cool, has been ~5 monts since previous update so it's nice to see more activity :) | 12:10 |
| Nico[m] | Now the browser just needs 2 more updates in the next 5 months to be somewhat up to date, I think :D | 12:10 |
| Nico[m] | Also, the automatic backups are nice! | 12:11 |
| mkolman | given the armageddon that was the last Firefox for Android "update" I think I'm fine with slightly outdated browser on Sailfish OS ;-) | 12:12 |
| Nico[m] | Well, sailfish browser is based on the desktop browser, so that would probably not apply :3 | 12:13 |
| mkolman | yeah, thankfully the update for the desktop Firefox was rather uneventful :) | 12:15 |
| mkolman | (and I know they had the issue with iudated Android variant based on F68 going out of support so they had to do something, still don't agree releasing that quarter-finished thing was a good thing to do) | 12:16 |
| Nico[m] | Well, it does now have video acceleration on the desktop, so I wouldn't call it uneventful :3 | 12:16 |
| mkolman | (ideally they should have kept the thing in sync from the get go, not get stuc on obsolete version only to bite you later) | 12:16 |
| peperjohnny | sadly I can't return to 3.3.0.16 and try it out on another device :D | 12:16 |
| mkolman | by uneventful I mean not-dropping-60%-of-features-you-use uneventful | 12:17 |
| Nico[m] | peperjohnny: You can always flash your device again and update step by step ;p | 12:17 |
| peperjohnny | Nico[m] ah yeah no thanks :D | 12:18 |
| Nico[m] | Pff | 12:18 |
| Nico[m] | Can't wait to read the patchnotes :3 | 12:18 |
| mkolman | BTW, can the supported xperia devices perhaps boot from SD card ? | 12:18 |
| peperjohnny | was dumb enough to update my daily driver first, now I'll have to suffer through | 12:18 |
| Nico[m] | mkolman: As far as I know, no, but it would be nice | 12:19 |
| mkolman | a friend of mine just got the latest PinePhone & it can do that, which is supper hand yfor distro hopping like this | 12:19 |
| mkolman | Nico[m]: thanks - indeed, would be super useful, even if perhaps slower than the built-in storage | 12:19 |
| Nico[m] | I think it is probably a limitation in the Xperia bootloader though | 12:20 |
| mkolman | hmm, I guess that something that can't be easily replaced... | 12:20 |
| Thaodan | Does any android device supporting booting from SD-Card? I think that thats not intended and would be insecure. | 12:26 |
| mkolman | security aspects could be handled the same way as bootloader unlocking - explicit user permission to do so | 12:27 |
| mkolman | (an even without this, I don't really see normal users swapping random microSD cards in their phones to get infected) | 12:28 |
| Thaodan | Its still an attack surface and a feature that you maintain for the 1% of the 1% | 12:29 |
| mkolman | personally it seems like another features Android phones dropped out of either lazyness or even another attempt to wrestle more control from the users (by making it harder to swap the default lcoked down & privacy not respecting Android OS) | 12:30 |
| mkolman | well, you could say that about boot configuration in BIOS/UEFI in PCs | 12:30 |
| Thaodan | Its not layz if you waist money for doing something that you don't need | 12:31 |
| mkolman | even the percentage would likely be similar | 12:31 |
| mkolman | yet removing that would basically wipe out Linux distros over night | 12:31 |
| mkolman | I guess it's just me not liking to encounter artificial limitations imposed on the user by a third party :) | 12:32 |
| Thaodan | Hm you need that because then you couldn't boot windows or starting any other UEFI App like BIOS or an update | 12:32 |
| mkolman | well, you cold do it like on Android/iOS/MacOs - preinstalled only, servicing only at authorized shop | 12:33 |
| mkolman | I'm sure there are some bsuiness minded people who would do that if they could | 12:34 |
| Thaodan | No because the bios itself and capsules are also uefi apps | 12:34 |
| Thaodan | the only thing is that those are signed | 12:34 |
| mkolman | a proper UEFI firmaware on smartphones would be nice - Jolla Tablet had that | 12:35 |
| mkolman | & if the result was SBSA compliant you could run many mainstream distros out of the box | 12:35 |
| Thaodan | even that you still have device trees | 12:36 |
| mkolman | sure, but the less hoops one has to jump through (custom image for each distro you want to try) makes it more likely someone would address these as well | 12:37 |
| peperjohnny | is there an easy way to list all non jolla packages? | 12:40 |
| ahappyhuman | Patches removed, WebKit restored, ready to update! | 12:44 |
| ViGe | peperjohnny: Do you have any non-jolla packages which are not from openrepos? | 12:56 |
| Nico[m] | Hm, the update wiped all my wifi settings? | 12:57 |
| Nico[m] | But the new connecting to wifi animation is nice | 12:57 |
| peperjohnny | ViGe I guess so. this is a full list https://pastebin.com/jnKukeg5 I have some obs repos it seems | 12:58 |
| Nico[m] | Also the weather widget changes look nice :3 | 12:58 |
| peperjohnny | I removed all harbour packages as a first | 12:58 |
| Nico[m] | Wow, the browser shows the forum properly now! | 12:59 |
| ViGe | peperjohnny: It's easy to list all openrepos packages: "zypper packages --installed-only|grep openrepos|grep ^i" | 13:01 |
| ViGe | peperjohnny: replace openrepos with the other repository names to list them | 13:02 |
| peperjohnny | ViGe thanks will try! | 13:02 |
| Nico[m] | Hm, switching to a different user does glitch out the graphics for a bit | 13:09 |
| peperjohnny | ViGe I think I removed all. when it boots it goes from sony display to black to white to black to white and then stops at black screen. This is f5121. Any form of repo refreshing gives me "Fatal error: Medium not attached: plugin:/ssu?repo=adaptation0" | 13:40 |
| peperjohnny | couldn't use your command too because of that and had to look up everything by hand | 13:41 |
| peperjohnny | ViGe from journalctl https://pastebin.com/F1S319AV | 13:53 |
| x2s | soooo, about 3.4, is there a changelog somewhere? ;) | 14:02 |
| Nico[m] | Changelog is still getting proof read | 14:03 |
| x2s | I'm good in proof reading. ;) | 14:10 |
| pucilpet | hi guys :) | 14:13 |
| pucilpet | what should I delete to make room for the update? it says I need ~500mb but only got 400. file system explorer is quite unhelpful with freeing up the space | 14:14 |
| Nico[m] | I uninstalled a few applications I don't use | 14:14 |
| pucilpet | apps only take a really small part of the space. most is taken up by "sailfishos and other" | 14:15 |
| Nico[m] | I think that is mostly the OS, which you probably don't want to delete | 14:15 |
| Nico[m] | I looked through it and I didn't find anything but apps to make space | 14:16 |
| pucilpet | apps take only 79mb so seems impossible | 14:16 |
| pucilpet | :D | 14:16 |
| Nico[m] | Oh | 14:16 |
| Nico[m] | In my case it was 300mb in apps :D | 14:17 |
| mal | pucilpet: have you checked is there is a lot of space taken by /var/log or some other things under /var ? | 14:44 |
| PeperJohnny | funnily enough I have almost the same apps on my jolla c and it took the update like a champ :D | 14:55 |
| PeperJohnny | but there's another guy in the forums with an xperia x that's borked, so maybe it's only that device | 14:55 |
| Nico[m] | Xperia devices have a smaller system partition, since it uses the default size sony chose | 14:57 |
| Nico[m] | I think | 14:58 |
| Nico[m] | Ah, wait, wrong guy starting with p :D | 14:58 |
| thigg[m] | What do you guys do to update? My update manager shows nothing... Or is it maybe language/region specific? | 14:59 |
| Nico[m] | thilo: Are you in the early access group? | 14:59 |
| PeperJohnny | thigg[m]: are you in early adopter group? | 14:59 |
| thigg[m] | Nico: no, thats the reason then ;) | 14:59 |
| pucilpet | @mal | 15:22 |
| pucilpet | not really, there isn't much in /var | 15:22 |
| Nico[m] | PeperJohnny, is your root partition full? | 15:25 |
| pucilpet | For me the space problem was due to having some image files in the /root folder | 15:40 |
| PeperJohnny | Nico[m]: according to df -h rootfs has 1.0G available | 16:29 |
| PeperJohnny | Has the update been pulled? https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/when-to-expect-sfos-3-4-0/2033/54 suggests this | 16:52 |
| pucilpet | I guess so. I have some problems with android support on xa2 etc so I guess I'll have to try to restore a backup | 17:00 |
| patoll | Any idea why I have "medium not attached: plugin:/ssu? repo=adaptation0"?? No need to say that I had an error when updating to 3.4 | 18:14 |
| patoll | I have access to phone via ssh but nothing on screen | 18:14 |
| patoll | I started update with gui, had a space issue, that I solved by getting rid of an app, then the phone rebooted but update failed with an option only to reboot. I can access the first unlock but then the screen flashes and nothing more. This is on X10 plus | 18:18 |
| Nico[m] | Can you trigger a manual update? | 18:19 |
| patoll | I tried ssu re and version - - dup but get the error mentioned above | 18:33 |
| patoll | Btw the official release repo was still 3.3 but the text attached to ssh says 3.4. So clearly the update failed and is partly installed | 18:37 |
| patoll | I tried version - - dup with both 3.3 and 3.4 but without success | 18:38 |
| patoll | Hoping I do not need to reflash... | 18:39 |
| mal | patoll: which device is that? | 19:13 |
| patoll | X10+ | 19:17 |
| patoll | @mal | 19:19 |
| mal | patoll: does /var/log/systemupdate.log show anything interesting? | 19:34 |
| patoll | mal: difficult for me to say. Maybe a cannot open fb0: no such file... | 19:39 |
| patoll | I can upload somewhere if that helps? | 19:39 |
| patoll | mal: https://pastebin.com/HrhJ5X1M | 19:44 |
| pucilpet | how are you guys doing with android support on xa2? still working after the 3.4.0 upgrade? | 20:05 |
| attah__ | pucilpet: at least basic usage seems to work... anything in particular that isn't working? | 20:19 |
| attah__ | Also, if you have aliendalvik-control, and not the latest version, that could be your issue | 20:20 |
| pucilpet | yeah well for me it doesn't start at all. I did have aliendalvik-control but the latest version. I did remove it but no luck:/ | 20:24 |
| mal | pucilpet: what do logs say? journalctl and maybe "lxc-attach -n aliendalvik -- /system/bin/logcat" | 20:56 |
| patoll | mal: so no obvious solution? It seems Louis on the forum had the same problem https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/the-screen-goes-black-and-thats-it/2282/15 | 21:00 |
| mal | I think the solution might be to manually install the ssu rpms from new release, I think the installation did not finish properly or something | 21:01 |
| patoll | If i understand, that means checking all packages and see if they were updated?! hum I can try but a bit of a hell 😅 | 21:05 |
| mal | patoll: no, I meant first trying to just grabbing the ssu rpms from somewhere and then installing those again manually | 21:16 |
| mal | patoll: maybe you can see if there is still rpm cache on the device | 21:17 |
| mal | patoll: does "pkcon download . ssu" do anything? | 21:22 |
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