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| afotos | hi, I'd like to know if there is any connectio between SailfisOS and Android. I mean is SailfishOS uses any part from Android? Why does is matter when I flash SailfishOS to a smartphone which Android version installed on it? | 10:21 |
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| Nico[m] | It uses the drivers from the Android kernel, so those need to be compatible. Android updates can sometimes change those binary blobs on the device and such, iirc | 10:22 |
| afotos | Android kernel? Isn't linux the kernel? | 10:24 |
| afotos | Basically Android is a java virtual machine on it as I know. | 10:24 |
| Nico[m] | Well, Android patches their kernel, so it is not 1:1 compatible. Or at least the device vendors do | 10:25 |
| afotos | These are the native application for Sailfishos? https://openrepos.net/category/applications | 10:27 |
| afotos | I'm asking these questions because I'd like to switch from Android and I want to be shure about my decision. | 10:27 |
| Nico[m] | Yes, those are native apps | 10:28 |
| Nico[m] | There are also some in the store, which you can't browse publically | 10:28 |
| afotos | And about how many percent os apk packages work on Sailfish OS? | 10:29 |
| Nico[m] | That depends on your device | 10:29 |
| Nico[m] | I feel like half of them or 70%? | 10:29 |
| afotos | I'm planning to bux a Sony Xpreria 10 or 10 Plus | 10:30 |
| afotos | bux = bux | 10:30 |
| afotos | buy | 10:30 |
| Nico[m] | On that one quite a few work afaik | 10:30 |
| afotos | Do you have a better device recommendation? | 10:31 |
| Nico[m] | No, that one is probably the best currently | 10:33 |
| afotos | Can I try the system somehow on linux? In a vm or emulator? | 10:42 |
| Nico[m] | You can install the SDK and use the emulator, but that is very barebones and has no android support | 10:44 |
| afotos | I don't mind Android support for now | 10:45 |
| afotos | Can it use Xperia 10 Plus both cameras or better to stick with the simple 10 version? | 10:47 |
| afotos | Because on a lot of p | 10:47 |
| afotos | place I read just 10 and not mentioning 10 Plus | 10:48 |
| Nico[m] | Multiple cameras is still WIP | 10:48 |
| afotos | Thanks | 10:48 |
| afotos | Sometimes I see deb packages: https://openrepos.net/content/msameer/cameraplus and mostly I see rpm packages. Does SailfishOS uses both? | 10:51 |
| afotos | https://openrepos.net/content/planetosstore/imageworks | 10:51 |
| Nico[m] | No, sailfish uses RPM. The deps are for Meego and such | 10:53 |
| afotos | I see. I have three last questions. One is about my native language keyboard. Can I have hungarian keyboard? I mean for a letter like these:áőúüóöűí I don't have to long press and choose but I can see all of them on a keyboard. | 10:57 |
| afotos | How can I use NAvigation with house numbers included? | 10:58 |
| afotos | I'm thinking on why the system is slower than Androin on Youtube videos, while it doesn't have to handle a virtual java machine with the same hardware? | 10:59 |
| Nico[m] | <afotos "I see. I have three last questio"> I believe there is one on openrepos | 11:03 |
| Nico[m] | <afotos "How can I use NAvigation with ho"> Uhh, I think so? I just use pure maps though | 11:03 |
| Nico[m] | <afotos "I'm thinking on why the system i"> In the vm? Probably no hardware acceleration there. It's fine on the phone imo | 11:04 |
| afotos | What device do you use? Because The Maps app is not included in and available for Sailfish X products and Jolla C | 11:07 |
| Nico[m] | Xperia X compact | 11:09 |
| afotos | I understand. Pure Maps from Openrepos | 11:13 |
| Nico[m] | I think it is in the store too, but I use the OR version | 11:14 |
| afotos | Is Pure Maps an online navigation becaus there is a note that : Offline mapping is possible by installing OSM Scout Server . Or it can be both? | 11:19 |
| emoo[m] | how do i uninstall old protonvpn | 11:21 |
| emoo[m] | nvm fixed | 11:25 |
| afotos | If Russia developes apps for Aurora OS and Chinese developes for Harmony OS, does it means that Sailfish application base is growing? | 11:29 |
| rubdos[ma] | afotos: pure maps can do both. You'll need to configure it a bit though, and read the settings carefully. | 11:29 |
| afotos | rubdos[ma]: Excellent. Thanks | 11:30 |
| rubdos[ma] | (can't answer the Aurora/Harmony question) | 11:31 |
| rinigus | afotos: after you install osm scout server and set it up (download maps mainly), switch between online and offline in pure maps is trivial. in the main menu, choose between online and offline profile. | 11:34 |
| rinigus | setting up osm scout server is explained at https://rinigus.github.io/osmscout-server/en/ | 11:35 |
| afotos | Thank you | 11:40 |
| afotos | As I see if I don't want Android support these 3 devices are still fine for Sailfish Os: https://rinigus.github.io/osmscout-server/en/ | 11:40 |
| afotos | Sorry bad link: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9738&idPhone2=9720&idPhone3=9109 | 11:41 |
| rinigus | afotos: can't tell about the status of the ports for these devices. you should check that first | 11:45 |
| afotos | Thank you for your help | 11:48 |
| emoo[m] | is there other browser besided stock one | 11:48 |
| Nico[m] | <emoo[m] "is there other browser besided s"> yes | 11:48 |
| emoo[m] | name? | 11:49 |
| emoo[m] | and i need ppt viewer | 11:49 |
| Nico[m] | There is a full list of them | 11:49 |
| Nico[m] | <emoo[m] "and i need ppt viewer"> The documents app can do that | 11:49 |
| emoo[m] | <Nico[m] "The documents app can do that"> i dont have it | 11:49 |
| Nico[m] | It's installed by default on a device | 11:50 |
| Nico[m] | Or you can get it from the store | 11:50 |
| emoo[m] | <Nico[m] "It's installed by default on a d"> well i dont wana make an acc | 11:51 |
| emoo[m] | <Nico[m] "It's installed by default on a d"> unoffical port | 11:51 |
| Nico[m] | I see, then no idea | 11:53 |
| emoo[m] | aigh | 11:54 |
| emoo[m] | * aight | 11:54 |
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| Mister_Magister | hmm i seem to run out of space on obs | 17:08 |
| Mister_Magister | thats new one | 17:08 |
| mal | what are you building? | 17:11 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: node | 17:14 |
| Mister_Magister | nodejs | 17:14 |
| attah | Who has been looking in to what is missing for plumbing in VoLTE? I'd like to pitch in if anything happens to be in my wheelhouse. Also "all bugs are shallow given enough eyeballs" and all that... | 18:56 |
| attah | Soooo, if some dependencies are supposed to exist but sfdk/mb2 says they don't... can i force a refresh somehow? | 20:09 |
| Nico[m] | <attah "Who has been looking in to what "> Isn't basically everything missing? :D | 21:10 |
| attah | Sounded like some rough limits to "everything" was known... | 21:11 |
| attah | and just getting some insight on what it takes (plumbing-wise) to do normal calls, plus any known diffs to that would be helpful | 21:13 |
| Nico[m] | Hm, there were some notes on the last meeting, I think, otherwise no idea | 21:17 |
| attah | that's basically the reason i'm asking | 21:17 |
| Nico[m] | Yeah, i figured, sorry, no other ideas here :D | 21:17 |
| Nico[m] | I'd just bother whoever supplied that answer from jolla either on IRC or via email :3 | 21:18 |
| attah | i won't pretend to be able to do any low-level witchcraft, but telecom is my day job.... so who knows, maybe i happen to have some skills that complement others | 21:20 |
| Nico[m] | I think there was a comment, that anyone working on this would be very appreciated :D | 21:21 |
| rubdos[ma] | The vibe I got from the VoLTE discussion was "it's a ton of work and nobody ever did VoLTE in the open" | 21:22 |
| Nico[m] | Oh, yeah, the docs issues... | 21:22 |
| Nico[m] | I could add 200€ to the bug bounty :p | 21:23 |
| attah | well, the actual volte specs are open... the qualcomm interface, not so much | 21:23 |
| Nico[m] | Hm | 21:23 |
| attah | but it's not reasonable that the OS would have to do actual protocol stuff.. so i'm thinking plumbing... but knowing is better than speculating | 21:24 |
| attah | i guess i will ping some people tomorrow or so... | 21:26 |
| Nico[m] | :D | 21:36 |
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