Sunday, 2021-10-31

poetasterhnj: I'm not the original author of the app, just the maintainer. A number of people are working on improving it. The imgur app was recently updated.07:32
poetasterHengYeDev: I found, when installing the 3.4 targets after the fact that 1. I had to install ALL of them, 2. I had to insure that the build vm was running (clicked in vbox to make sure it was all up)07:41
poetasterHengYeDev: attempts to just insall arm, for instance got me screwed up installs. To recover I edited components.xml in SailfishOS dir.07:43
poetasterHengYeDev: If components have failed to install, you can remove them from that file and re-rerun the sdk maintenance tool.07:43
poetasterattah: I was trying to use the original repo, where it isn't in the pro file. the repos for LouJo's apps are all cross platform, and it looks like I 'll have to restructure to build on obs.07:47
poetasterattah: I was hoping to avoid that. I'm building up a rather large collection of apps.07:47
attahHmm, yes, that would have been nice... probably possible by some magic, i just don'07:48
attaht know how either07:48
attahAnd you are doing great work... i just keep digging where i stand :P07:49
poetasterheh:) I just made the modifications and used my fork. Sadly, I don't think LouJo is coming back, so it's not tragic.08:31
poetasterjust pushed sailgo and sailconnect4 to chum. the tuner is coming right up. I seem to fall to easily into this role.08:32
attahThe hero we need :)08:33
poetasterand you, attah, gave me bragging rights last weekend. pure apple household, one apple user couldn't print without hurdles. i said, let me try... you're printing infra worked with 0 config.08:34
attahhehe :)08:34
poetaster+1 Sailfish -1 iOS ... also they couldn't transfer files via bluetooth. and they couldn't install a rindtone.08:34
poetasters/rindtone/ringtone/ ...08:35
attahbet it was over AirPrint format too (:08:35
poetasterYup. Isn't that just cups with branding?08:35
attahPretty much08:36
attahjust a different header08:37
attahBut nothing uses CUPS raster... at lest now there is the PWG version of it08:38
poetasterah! errggg. PWG?08:43
attahPrinter Working Group08:44
poetasterah! a standards body looking for a bar with craftbeer, no doubt ;)08:44
attahI wouldn't mind a few beers with those guys...08:46
poetastera novel called LaserWriter II (I had one!)
poetasterThe restaurant Shopsin's, in New York was great when I visited 20+ years ago. It's almost worth a trip :)08:48
attahHaha, interesting08:50
poetasterI have to admit, I'm not sure I want to read the novel, just think about it :-)08:51
poetasterI was a fan of the Apple Extended warranties in the late 80s early 90s. Got a new printer/scanner every two years ;)08:52
attahWould have been even better if it didn't break, but if it has to i guess...08:53
poetasteryeah, true. I did stop buying apple because of dvds/hds dying because of design idiocy. and the first relase of osX was a catastrophe08:54
attahclosed ecosystems tend to do that... let you down08:57
hnjpoetaster: well, thanks for maintaining it then (;11:48
poetasterhnj: my pleasure. Had to do some bug fixes last week so it's still a bunch o work.11:54
hnjI went back to my jolla1 because of several issues and tested those again: still the same problems, e.g. with sailimgur ( but also with the store: some apps just fail to install, e.g. webcat. it says "problem with store \n Could not install Webcat" in a little popup at the top. where can I find more info about the issue?12:42
attahhnj: beyond the obvious "time to give up on a 8 year old phone", just grab the rpm from openrepos and install in terminal... likely it is sufficiently verbose12:52
hnjattah: oh, sorry, I fscked up my description …12:53
hnjI went back to my jolla1 *for productive use* because of several issues, *reflashed my gigaset gs290* and tested those again *(on the gs290)*: still the same problems, e.g. with sailimgur ( but also with the store: some apps just fail to install, e.g. webcat. it says "problem with store \n Could not install Webcat" in a little popup at the top.12:53
hnjwhere can I find more info about the issue?12:53
attahin case installing apps in the jolla1 wasn't the issue, please define it12:54
hnjattah: yes, webcat installed fine on the jolla1, but I installed it years ago there.12:55
hnjactually, (almost) everything installed fine on the jolla1. can’t recall a single problem with the jolla store/harbour ever …12:56
attahso what issue are you talking about then?12:56
hnjinstalling webcat from the jolla store on the gs290 fails without useful error message in the gui.12:57
attahso same advice goes for that - do it from the terminal12:57
hnj(webcat is just one example. screenshot also fails, recorder fails, etc.)12:57
attahalso what on earth do you want webcat for now that the browser is decent?12:57
hnjattah: I was told installing apps from the jolla store was not possible via shell‽12:58
attahsame with screenshot; that's built in since years12:58
attahfairly certain i have done that; but if it isn't, most of them have secondary sources12:58
hnjok, I take your point. will try to find an app that makes sense to install and also fails.12:59
hnjattah: ok, great. I don’t want to just accept errors, though and always search for a secondary source (; I’d like to fix the problem and use jolla store as it’s intended to be usable …13:00
hnjlighthouse also fails13:00
attahwell, my suggestion for step one of troubleshooting is to find whether store is broken or rpm installation (of those apps) in general is13:01
attahthus; hunt down the rpm separately and see if that helps13:01
attahor start with tailing the journal log when you try to install something13:02
hnjattah: makes sense. any advice how to retrieve the rpm from the store? AFAIK the jolla store does not have a webinterface, does it?13:03
attah...secondary sources....13:03
hnjOct 31 14:05:08 VollaPhone [2265]: [D] unknown:0 - void Package::InstallTransactionPkgKit::giveUpOrRetry(const QString&) "could not find13:05
hnj package harbour-lighthouse"13:05
hnjthat seems like a problem …13:05
attahyeas... but is that remote or local that it isn't found?13:06
attahanyway "pkcon download . <package>" works just fine with store13:06
hnj that seems relevant …13:08
hnjlooks like I won’t have a choice but really go for alternative sources like openrepos …13:09
attahso it's a 64-bit port that is somehow misconfigured to show all packages?13:09
hnjattah: uuuh, possibly? I don’t know much about that … it’s a port and the platform is 64-bit AFAIU13:10
hnjpiggz[m]: I guess I should ping you about this?13:10
attahthe kernel always was... but the userspace wasn't13:11
attahso very port dependent13:11
HengYeDev[m]Did the sdk packages change? Using Manage Packages in IDE libcrypto and nemonotifications-qt5 have disappeared and its not building anymore13:11
HengYeDev[m]wait, it works now13:12
HengYeDev[m] i have no idea what happened13:12
Mister_Magisterrinigus: ping13:27
rinigusMister_Magister: pong13:32
Mister_Magisterrinigus: would you mind adding option to puremaps to ignore street names in voice navigation? its pretty uselesss in Pooland :D14:24
rinigusMister_Magister: I think hugehead has been working on it - it requires patching of Valhalla14:26
Mister_Magisterthought it would be simpler, kk14:26
Mister_Magisterrinigus: otherwise great work, if only it wasn't in python :)14:29
rinigusMister_Magister: there are bits in C++ now as well. router and positioning bits are there14:30
Mister_Magisterwas testing it today while driving, was fun, but woudln't trust it yet xd14:30
Mister_Magisterrinigus: also it would be great if it would notify you via voice when it looses gps signal14:31
Mister_Magisterotherwise you gonna drive without knowing that you are driving wrong if you don't look at it14:31
Mister_Magisterjust suggestions14:32
rinigusMister_Magister: open an issue, please14:32
Mister_Magisterrinigus: mmmm14:32
Mister_Magisterrinigus: done
rinigusMister_Magister: thanks!14:34
Mister_Magisterwould add it myself if not for python :D14:35
Mister_Magisteri'm slowly back to deving14:36
hnjdoes anyone happen to have a device that did not have sailimgur installed ever and could try whether that app works for them without logging in? see also
hnjif anyone has ideas what might be the problem and what to check, I’d appreciate that too, of course (:19:41
Mister_Magisterhnj: other than god awful ui it works fine to me19:45
hnjMister_Magister: i.e. you can see and browse images in anonymous mode?19:50
hnjdamn, that means there is some problem specific to that device or that image … or that arch /-:19:51
Mister_Magisterhnj: yep19:52
Mister_Magisterhnj: if its aarch64 then aarch64 is most likely the issue19:53
hnjMister_Magister: what arch are you using? I think I’m on aarch6419:53
Mister_Magisteri can hardly find my app that would be working fine on aarch6419:53
Mister_Magisteri say blame jolla19:53
hnjI fail to parse that last sentence …19:53
hnjabout "working fine on aarch64"19:54
Mister_Magisterhnj: all my apps are broken on aarch6419:55
Mister_Magisterin simple terms19:55
hnjoh, wtf19:55
Mister_Magisterand in not explainable ways19:56
hnjgaaaah … I wish I had know about this before I bought this device /-:19:56
Mister_Magisterone guy, app was working fine to him just half an hour ago but after reinstall it doesn't anymore19:56
Mister_Magisterexplain that.19:56
NicoI didn't have many issues on aarach64, apart from some packages not being ported, the 64bit bug in tracker and autocomplete, but the tracker bug should be fixed with tracker3, which was mentioned to be on track in one of the next releases in a community meeting19:58
hnjwould you test for me if sailimgur works for you on arch64?20:06
hnjhm, AFAICT sailimgur’s qml fails comparing NULL from an sqlite db with "" or something …20:57
NicoI can't find any 64bit package of sailimgur :D20:59
hnjNico: uuuh I wouldn’t know about 64bit in particular but sailimgur is available on harbour and openrepos21:00
NicoWell, not in a 64bit version though :D21:01
NicoLet me compile it21:02
NicoCompiling it, it works fine, but the api token is missing so you need to sign in21:04
NicoAh, there seems to be a build on obs21:07
NicoThat seems to also be missing the token :321:11
hnjNico: uuuh, I’m not sure what that means … since it works for Mister_Magister on armv7hl but not for us, that would mean that the armv7hl build has the API token and it’s missing in the openrepos, harbour, and your build?21:17
NicoI'd assume so21:17
NicoAt least my local build for sure doesn't have it and the error message is the same21:18
hnjany way to look at the exact build process for armv7hl to find the API token used there?21:19
hnjoh, author replied on github:
NicoSo my guess was right!21:26
NicoBuilding was just an `sfdk build` for me, so lets hope he figures out his issues soon :D21:27
Mister_Magisterim so out of the loop i idk even how chum works21:32
NicoIt is a bundle of obs repos21:32
Mister_Magisteri know that much21:33
hnjNico: yep, seems so, thanks (:21:33

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