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| hnj | does anyone know of an effort to have a simplex-chat (https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat) client on sailfish? | 14:42 |
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| attah | Meanwhile in Sweden: Xperia 10 III for 299 EUR, free nc headphones if you register | 17:07 |
| attah | https://www.elgiganten.se/product/mobiler-tablets-smartklockor/mobiltelefon/sony-xperia-10-iii-5g-smartphone-6128gb-svart/369443 | 17:07 |
| x2s | I'm a bit jealous. | 17:14 |
| Thaodan | Svenden only. | 18:13 |
| Thaodan | *Sweden | 18:14 |
| Thaodan | Swedish looks so easy, I should just learn it instead of Finnish XD | 18:14 |
| attah | So it would seem... presumably as prior offers on gigantti.fi? | 18:15 |
| Thaodan | Idk | 18:15 |
| attah | Probably, it has had several reforms keeping it up to date | 18:15 |
| attah | And we are not super strict on making up "native" words like the Icelandic and French | 18:16 |
| attah | But i must admit Finnish is pretty cool... just very very strange | 18:16 |
| direc85[m] | verkkokauppa.com also has (had?) such combo deals listed | 18:22 |
| kamro | Kabouic: I have updated mouse patch if you want to try but I didn't test it | 18:57 |
| kamro | Kabouik* | 18:57 |
| useretail | hi, how to patch sfos image to disable encryption? | 19:24 |
| Thaodan | useretail: Why would you? | 19:26 |
| useretail | doesn't make much sense to me | 19:26 |
| Thaodan | That doesn't tell why would you. | 19:27 |
| Thaodan | In any case, if can't just "patch" the image, you would have to disable it in the system. It doesn't work like in Android. | 19:27 |
| Thaodan | There's full disk encryptii | 19:27 |
| Thaodan | encryption and no metadata is leaked. | 19:28 |
| useretail | well, that's the reason - there is no way to disable it in settings | 19:29 |
| Thaodan | useretail: Because that is not how it works, it is not just a flag in the settings. | 19:30 |
| Thaodan | Which doesn't make it a reason to disable it. | 19:30 |
| useretail | so how to modify the firmware to disable it? | 19:31 |
| attah | But what is the point? Don't tell me you bought in to the ridiculous things people blame encryption for on the forum... | 19:32 |
| Thaodan | attah: sounds like it. | 19:32 |
| useretail | guys, i just don't want to use pin | 19:35 |
| useretail | is my reason good enough? | 19:36 |
| attah | But it is just for first boot, which is like what every other week at worst? | 19:36 |
| useretail | besides, pin-only auth makes encryption pointless unless an abnormally long pin is used | 19:37 |
| attah | yes, still not a reason | 19:39 |
| hnj | depends on your attack scenario … but other than that IMHO "I don’t want to" should be a good enough reason among hackers! :D | 19:40 |
| Thaodan | "hackers" | 19:40 |
| Thaodan | Anyway then go and find out like a hacker | 19:40 |
| attah | It is actually quite find-outable | 19:40 |
| hnj | Thaodan: I won’t, because I do want the pin for my use case (; | 19:41 |
| useretail | here: https://together.jolla.com/question/220695/sailfish-3-numeric-pin-as-luks-passphrases-make-device-encryption-useless/ | 19:42 |
| useretail | ...cracking a 6-digit PIN was done in under a minute... | 19:43 |
| hnj | but in the future I might well see a usecase coming where I don’t want one … e.g. using some phone as a remote control in my home or so. no need for a pin or anything if it’s just for controlling the media player or some "smart home" stuff or so. | 19:43 |
| hnj | hmm, I’m confused: when I boot the device, I am asked for the decryption key, which is different from the "security code" to unlock my device. in this post they seem to talk about them being the same. what am I missing? | 19:49 |
| attah | Set-up makes them the same, then you can only change the latter | 19:50 |
| useretail | so what's the solution? | 19:52 |
| kamro | try "disable encryption" in forum search, possible solution should be in first result | 20:03 |
| useretail | the only one i'm finding on the forum is: https://together.jolla.com/question/218283/how-to-disable-encryption/ | 20:28 |
| useretail | but there's no solution even where the answer link redirects | 20:29 |
| useretail | btw just noticed that recovery mode for xperia 10 ii and iii doesn't work! | 20:41 |
| useretail | device boots up to sony logo and then reboots | 20:41 |
| useretail | used hybris-recovery.img from latest Sailfish_OS-Jolla-4.4.0.68-xqau52-0.0.2.119 | 20:44 |
| useretail | where do we file bug reports? | 20:44 |
| kamro | usertail: in sailfish forum: https://forum.sailfishos.org/ | 21:11 |
| useretail | jolla doesn't care: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/xperia-10-ii-unable-to-reach-recovery-mode/11822 | 21:31 |
| x2s | dude. | 21:34 |
| x2s | The first reporter had its problem resolved by reflashing | 21:35 |
| x2s | so not much to do anymore. No problem means this is hard to debug | 21:35 |
| x2s | and the other report is from yesterday | 21:35 |
| x2s | at 21:00 | 21:35 |
| x2s | It's not great that your device in stuck in a boot loop. I know that feeling. | 21:36 |
| x2s | But debuging and solution finding takes time | 21:36 |
| x2s | And instead of nagging you could've added all the details necessary to see if your problem is really related. | 21:37 |
| x2s | Things like: What did happen in the first place, what did you do (as precise as possible), what did you try to fix it already. | 21:37 |
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