| *** rainemak__ is now known as rainemak | 05:57 | |
| rubdos | Microphone seems a bit damaged, signal-to-noise is really low. The Pebble cuts off the transcription early because of low SNR. Ordered a fancy Pebble Time Steel on Ebay. | 10:27 |
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| rubdos | The rest of the pipeline seems to work though. | 10:27 |
| attah | C2 hype! | 15:47 |
| xenial-user | indeed | 15:59 |
| xenial-user | reference device going forward, aparently | 16:03 |
| xenial-user | for sfos 5.0 | 16:12 |
| attah | Preoder complete! | 16:32 |
| xenial-user | no risk besides the voucher value, as I read the shop info | 16:39 |
| xenial-user | good presentation | 16:46 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: sami just dropped on livestream that GPL is no longer limitation when it comes to Qt update so except the insane amount of work that needs to be done to port all the hacks, is update doable? | 16:51 |
| rubdos | There was this community effort for 5.12, I suppose that's the first one to get upstream | 17:20 |
| Mister_Magister | community efforts are kinda worthless cause they don't include silica | 17:24 |
| Mister_Magister | which is the biggest issue when it comes to qt update | 17:24 |
| Mister_Magister | silica and gstdroid | 17:24 |
| mal | I don't know what was mentioned in the livestream, I didn't watch it | 17:27 |
| Mister_Magister | xd | 19:01 |
| Mister_Magister | hence i'm tellin u xd | 19:01 |
| pherjung[m] | Related to the Qt upgrade, I don't get something | 19:02 |
| pherjung[m] | If I understand correctly, since Qt 5.6 either your code is GPLv3 or you buy a licence to use another licence then GPLv3 | 19:03 |
| attah | No | 19:04 |
| attah | *L*GPL3 | 19:04 |
| pherjung[m] | I'm not sur to get it | 19:04 |
| attah | There is no 2/3 difference | 19:04 |
| attah | in that regard | 19:04 |
| attah | *L*GPL means you can still link proprietary code to it, as long as the LGPL code itself can be updated/redone/whatever | 19:05 |
| pherjung[m] | wait? Qt uses LGPL? | 19:05 |
| attah | Version 3 adds writing about hindering the user in doing so, where locked bootloaders (without giving the) etc would qualify | 19:06 |
| attah | Most of it, yes | 19:06 |
| attah | Some high-dollar stuff is strict GPL(-or-commercial) | 19:06 |
| pherjung[m] | ok, but how did Jolla solved the issue with the licence? | 19:06 |
| pherjung[m] | s/the/Qt/, s/licence/upgrade/ | 19:07 |
| attah | I don't think anything about the upgrade itself is solved | 19:07 |
| attah | It was just a statement that GPL3 is not an issue anymore | 19:07 |
| pherjung[m] | I'm lost | 19:08 |
| attah | Presumably locking the user out of their phone is no longer something the feel like they want as a sales-point to licensees | 19:08 |
| attah | Your pre-seded question is the correct one - the seded version make all more fuzzy | 19:08 |
| attah | I'm not a lawyer and all that, but Sailfish X and GPL3 compliance has never been an issue - only the licensability implications has | 19:10 |
| attah | Presumably Reeder was not interested in locking users out of their phones, and the attractiveness was reevaluated | 19:12 |
| pherjung[m] | aaaah, so this licence story has nothing to do with Qt? | 19:14 |
| attah | Qt switched from LGPL2 to LGPL3 at the 5.6/5.7 step, so Qt is just one of a long line of packages with this problem | 19:19 |
| attah | And one of few remaining ones held back (as opposed to replaced) | 19:19 |
| rubdos | I bet there'll be 5.12 or even Qt6 in SFOS 5 ;-) | 19:49 |
| attah | That would indeed be cool | 19:52 |
| attah | If you had said that last week, i'd been doubting you... but with all the good news today, why not? | 19:53 |
| rubdos | I think I said it before on the Jolla event in Brussels in Februari | 20:00 |
| x2s | ugh. subscription model for 10 V? | 22:09 |
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