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| Agemixer | I use webchat,i only guess the connection dies easily... i lost a lot of typing into cyberspace it seems, i'd try again (this takes tune using a phone browser) | 12:24 |
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| Agemixer | @Guest6720 thanks for the hint (weblog 2026-04-26) - the phone doesn't seem like too expensive either.. but about the lisencing.. | 12:25 |
| Agemixer | Do i read it right there, i need to buy the lisence continuously to use Sailfish on that phone? Or how does that lisencing thing works - or is it just for using the Android apps And so it is device-dependent, no? | 12:28 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | I don't know which phone you are referring to, but all the licenses are paid just once. C2 and the new Jolla Phone come with a license. The license gives you access to Android App Support, MS Exchange stuff, GUI for OTA updates and customer support. It's one license per one device policy. The license be bought just for officially supported phones (Sony Xperia series). | 12:34 |
| Agemixer | Okay, makes sense! Thanks for the short brief. - What are the OTA updates? Could it also be that the reason they haven't answered me at Jolla? i found no phone number ror them either | 12:41 |
| mal | just the usual operating system updates | 12:42 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Over-the-air updates. Whenever a new update is published, you can just use the GUI to download and install it. | 12:42 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Thanks mal, you can take it from here :D | 12:43 |
| Agemixer | And yes, the one suggestion (irclog 2026-04-27, 2026-04-28) Sony Xperia 10 in question. I'm open to other options except acquiring another android phone and registration with google i would just.. avoid. That would be my last desperate choice, honestly (with past year's experience on android) | 12:47 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Do you already have that phone? For a smoother user experience, I'd suggest 10 III, since it's much more performant. It's mostly the browser and Android App Support layer that require the extra horsepowers. | 12:51 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | For other basic phone stuff Xperia 10 might be adequate. | 12:52 |
| Agemixer | i have an old Huawei honor 7 lite phone, cannot just replace anything onto it (some phone tech knowledged guys have done that research for me already, no chances at all so lets not spend time on that phone) - so i'd rather go for new one. That's the backgrounds to it with many kind on Android based issues i finally want to get rid of | 12:55 |
| Agemixer | What do you think should i just go straight on purchasing the 2026-9 phone from jolla (and wait until) rather than some alternative phone now and with paid lisence :) The Jolla Support and Shop .. haven't answered me for... 2 months now. and time flies fast, i'm not in a hurry :P | 12:58 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Okay, in that case I'd choose Sony Xperia 10 III vs older phones in that series. Looking at my local marketplace, those are sold around 100 euros nowadays (used). The new Jolla Phone is somewhat more powerful and has loads of RAM, so if you can afford it and don't mind the wait, it'd be a better option. About the new Jolla Phone, this 'review' might interest you: | 13:02 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/first-impressions-of-the-new-jolla-phone/28729 | 13:02 |
| Agemixer | So i basically require one lisence to get a reply from them? // Thanks mal & tuplasuhveli :) Looks like i'm still learning things. heh! | 13:06 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Two months sounds a lot more than they usually take to respond, although they are getting loads of messages because of the new phone and everything related to it. Is your question something general that non-Jolla related people could answer or is it something specific only Jolla staff can answer? | 13:06 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Agemixer: You don't, but I guess they try to prioritise paying customers, since payment related questions about the new Jolla Phone are urgent right now. | 13:07 |
| mal | customer service is very busy | 13:08 |
| mal | probably good to search forum for answers first, not sure what kind of question you haven't gotten answer to | 13:09 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | I'm happy if I could be of help. Sailfish forum is a good place to search answers for specific questions related to apps and hardware and whatnot. | 13:09 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | https://forum.sailfishos.org/ | 13:09 |
| Agemixer | Yes it is both - About the jolla phones versus their older C2 (sold out or are there used ones left / returned??) but that Sony Xperia as an idea sounds much better than "obsoleted"(?) C2? I don't know! And the licensing system, And rooting / flashing alt phone and stuff like that you can imagine what kind of mess of a mind that sounds alike for non experienced "non phone" tech guy :D | 13:11 |
| mal | well I assume licensing should be clear from the earlier answer? | 13:13 |
| Agemixer | Yes i think i can get into Sailfish, thanks Tuplasuhveli, i'm struggling with that basic Android phone isdue nonrootable nonflashable (pretty much) also being my primary phone for years. | 13:14 |
| Agemixer | mal & tuplasuhveli, yes i was assuming the same they were ultra busy for lanseerata the new phone. :D I just been in doubts since i heard Jolla has also been bankrupt, i heard: "several times" so of course i have doubts. Those phones aren't available in something like Elisa shop either... no phone number to call.. raised some doubts, otherwise i would just bought the phone right away | 13:19 |
| FireFly | wrt the licenses actually.. I'm on 10ii currently as my daily driver and had the XA2 before (both with SFOS).. if I end up picking up another xperia, would it be possible to transfer one of the older licenses over? given I don't really use the XA2 at all anymore (actually.. I believe it doesn't even have SFOS on it anymore) | 13:21 |
| FireFly | the 10ii is getting a bit long in the tooth | 13:21 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Agemixer: I sent you a dm. | 13:24 |
| Agemixer | Ok my plan now.. i'll seek for Sony Xperia in the first place, then also buy the new Jolla phone - just if i get the answer from them about that phone! Not an either-or choice for me. What might get wrong? :D | 13:30 |
| Agemixer | Thanks #sailfishos and the community you make up my mind more now :) I just want to get rid of Android as much as possible. Ok i stop the "spam" in here. Thank you guys! There's a chance i'll take part in a future but i'm no more young! | 13:37 |
| mal | x10 ii or iii are better options than iv and v | 13:38 |
| Agemixer | mal Ok good to know, why is that? | 14:22 |
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