#mer-meeting: SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 26-Nov @ 14:30 UTC

Meeting started by cybette at 14:30:09 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Welcome to another week of SailfishOS OSS and collaboration meeting (cybette, 14:30:21)
    2. Meeting info and agenda: http://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-November/006760.html (cybette, 14:30:27)

  1. Brief introductions (5 min), prefix your information with #info (cybette, 14:30:43)
    1. Carsten Munk, Jolla CTO, R&D, for a few days still (Stskeeps, 14:30:45)
    2. Christophe Chapuis, community member (Tofe, 14:30:50)
    3. Siteshwar, community (situ, 14:30:55)
    4. Aleksi Suomalainen, community (locusf, 14:30:58)
    5. Kimmo Lindholm, community (kimmoli, 14:31:02)
    6. Carol Chen, community member, hatless meeting chair today (cybette, 14:31:03)
    7. Martin Ghosal, community (ghosalmartin, 14:31:10)
    8. Steph Gosling, community (stephg, 14:31:11)
    9. Mike Gabriel, Debian developer and software developer, new Jolla owner..., community (sunweave1, 14:31:13)
    10. vgrade, community (vgrade, 14:31:16)
    11. Matt Austin, community (mattaustin, 14:31:20)
    12. Graham Cobb, community (gcobb, 14:32:40)
    13. Richard Rondu, community & app developer (lainwir3d, 14:32:40)
    14. Amilcar Santos, app developer (a1kar, 14:32:56)
    15. Pami Ketolainen, backend developer @ Jolla (pketo, 14:33:02)
    16. Luciano Montanaro, community, hobby developer (mikelima, 14:33:04)
    17. Dylan Van Assche, community, hobby developer (DylanVanAssche, 14:33:16)

  2. Explore options to decentralize Jolla, SailfishOS and Mer essential infrastructure - bobsummerwill (15 min) (cybette, 14:35:37)
    1. - repositories, web-sites, automated build infrastructure, together.jolla.com, etc. Having any single individual or company solely responsible for such foundational infrastructure is a risk in any situation, let alone in the current situation. (cybette, 14:35:43)
    2. Backups are always good. Simplest case we would look to "copy". Better would be an ongoing multi-site "mirror". Best would be something truly decentralized based on IPFS as a long-term aim. (cybette, 14:35:49)
    3. since last meeting, Jolla has published a press release and blog post (cybette, 14:38:55)
    4. https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-manager/Jolla_press_release_20112015_FINAL_62.pdf (cybette, 14:39:03)
    5. https://blog.jolla.com/open-letter-jolla-community/ (cybette, 14:39:08)
    6. http://merproject.org/donations.html (stephg, 14:41:13)
    7. https://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01485.html (vgrade, 14:41:39)
    8. Jolla has reorganized its software organization with functioning SDK/UI/HW/testing/release teams, taking a look at infra usage, documenting software assets, etc. (cybette, 14:42:03)
    9. Lights are still on in Jolla Oy even with a reduced crew, with help from community cbeta members in testing, community members lending a hand in the Helsinki move etc. (cybette, 14:45:38)
    10. About what services Jolla can handover to community, it is a bit unclear right now. Perhaps online checkers, release mirroring etc. (cybette, 14:51:33)
    11. Topic might be better for next week's meeting with more visibility (cybette, 14:51:55)

  3. Status report from Jolla the company - SfietKonstantinW (30 min - 10 min for state, 20 for QA) (cybette, 14:52:21)
    1. Since Jolla is having some troubles recently, and that the light has not yet been casted on all the details, I would like to have a report from sailors about the state of the company. (cybette, 14:52:27)
    2. Maybe not the full picture, but at least to inform us how is the real state of the company (good ? bad ? waiting for something to happen ? etc) (cybette, 14:52:35)
    3. Status update has been shared by Stskeeps in previous topic, please see meeting minutes/logs (cybette, 14:52:59)
    4. http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/cat-jolla.html (Stskeeps, 14:54:01)
    5. Jolla phones are still on sale, in and out of stock occasionally. Jolla tablets cannot be pre-ordered, as they haven't delivered earlier pre-orders. (cybette, 14:57:00)
    6. Stskeeps recommends FOSDEM event for all, where he can offer reflashing of Jolla devices (cybette, 14:58:59)
    7. There is no donation link for Jolla as it is problematic for a Finnish company to receive donations (cybette, 14:59:37)
    8. M4rtinK mentions DevConf event, occurring a week after FOSDEM (cybette, 15:01:14)
    9. https://fosdem.org/2016/ (cybette, 15:01:18)
    10. http://www.devconf.cz/ (cybette, 15:01:23)
    11. New address for Jolla Helsinki office is Fredrikinkatu 42, 00100 Helsinki (cybette, 15:05:04)
    12. http://www.expat-finland.com/pdf/legal_framework_for_doing_business_in_finland.pdf is an interesting if you want to know the challenges of doing busienss in finland (Stskeeps, 15:07:35)
    13. hello i missed meeting too :D (coderus, 15:12:59)
    14. Community is more than willing to help, and it would be great to keep these meetings on a weekly basis so we can get updated on what we can do (cybette, 15:17:09)

  4. General discussions - everyone (10 min) (cybette, 15:20:29)
    1. There may be enough space on maemo.org for a potential release mirror for Sailfish OS, however the HW adaptation bits will be problematic (cybette, 15:23:46)

  5. Wrap up and next meeting (10 min) (cybette, 15:30:08)
    1. Next meeting Thurs Dec-3 @ 14:30 UTC, Chairperson Stskeeps (cybette, 15:37:02)


Meeting ended at 15:40:09 UTC (full logs).

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  6. M-bobsummerwill (14)
  7. Tofe (13)
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  15. mikelima (4)
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  17. situ (2)
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