#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – September 6th 2017

Meeting started by Jaymzz at 08:00:32 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-September/007989.html (Jaymzz, 08:00:43)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (Jaymzz, 08:01:08)
    1. James Noori - Sailor at Jolla (Jaymzz, 08:01:18)
    2. Steph Gosling, community and porter (stephg, 08:01:33)
    3. Fabio Isgrò - Community (dr_gogeta86, 08:01:34)
    4. Mister_Magister - Mad porter and community member (Mister_Magister, 08:01:37)
    5. Leszek Lesner, Community Member and Developer (leszek, 08:01:38)
    6. Kimmo Lindholm - Community (kimmoli, 08:01:39)
    7. Leif-Jöran Olsson, community member (ljo_, 08:01:40)
    8. Simonas Leleiva, sailor at Jolla (sledges, 08:01:44)
    9. Aleksi Suomalainen, community (locusf, 08:01:48)
    10. Adam Pigg - chief xiaomi-mido porter (piggz, 08:01:50)
    11. sugash community (Sugash, 08:01:51)
    12. nh1402, the reason for this meeting to be as long as it's going to be (nh1402, 08:02:21)
    13. Pami Ketolainen, sailor @ Jolla (pketo, 08:02:40)
    14. Thomas, mer community member (tbr, 08:02:45)
    15. Lewis Rockliffe, mother of dragons, breaker of chains, and true king in the north (r0kk3rz, 08:03:11)
    16. Martin Kolman, community & modRana (M4rtinK, 08:03:22)

  3. Newer version of GCC (Asked by nh1402 – 10 min) (Jaymzz, 08:07:10)
    1. eekkelund (eekkelund, 08:07:52)
    2. Damien Caliste, sorry being late (dcaliste, 08:09:52)
    3. Andrew Branson, me too (abranson_, 08:10:16)
    4. Jonatan Walck - shamefully late community member (jwalck, 08:12:46)
    5. https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:rinigus:toolbox/opt-gcc (Jaymzz, 08:13:10)
    6. Cedric Heintz, community member (late again...) (ced117, 08:15:03)
    7. those who would want to help with GCC can do so by working with rinigus repository. More to be discussed in #mer channel (Jaymzz, 08:19:39)
    8. (from rinigus) note that its not proper gcc packaging. for proper upgrade, we would need to work on gcc as packages currently with sfos (Jaymzz, 08:20:47)

  4. Picture in Picture (PiP) & Splitscreen Multitasking (asked by nh1402 – 15 min) (Jaymzz, 08:21:06)
    1. Splitscreen multitasking has been brought up before (by myself), Apparently the main thing to modify to support it would be Lipstick, PiP support would be nice, I'm not really sure which would require less work. I was wondering what specifically would need modifying (What in Lipstick), and how the community can help bring it if Jolla don't have enough resources to. (Jaymzz, 08:21:17)
    2. (from jpetrell) unfortunately our homescreen and Silica components are not open source yet so developing split screen is not really possible by community (Jaymzz, 08:35:07)
    3. (more from jpetrell) for apps to change between full-screen and split modes would require more dynamic layouting (currently geometries are decided on app startup) (Jaymzz, 08:36:14)
    4. Silica needs to be reworked and we need system UI managing split sceen and we need to migrate all the system dialogs to support different state combinations (Jaymzz, 08:37:29)
    5. Meetings will be organised to discuss implementation details. Work will then bein on Nemo homescreen. (Jaymzz, 08:42:26)

  5. : Custom Gestures & Fastening UI. (Asked by Sugash – 10 min) (Jaymzz, 08:44:00)
    1. Currently we have limited user customizable guestures.which causes a problem either between left and right hand users . User definable guestures can add more customizability and it can showcase Sailfish Os as the best Customizable Os. (Jaymzz, 08:44:15)

  6. Update libgcrypt to at least 1.6.0 (Asked by Mister_Magister – 5 min) (Jaymzz, 08:59:37)
    1. I need updated libgcrypt to at least 1.6.0 for telegram-purple (Jaymzz, 08:59:56)
    2. https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?component=libgcrypt&list_id=2255&product=Mer%20Core&resolution=--- (pketo, 09:03:34)
    3. https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?component=libgcrypt&list_id=2255&product=Mer%20Core&resolution=--- (Jaymzz, 09:03:51)

  7. QtWebkit Update to 5.212 version (Asked by Leszek – 20 min) (Jaymzz, 09:06:46)
    1. Make QtWebkit and Webcat great again by updating the out of date version of qtwebkit 5.6 with the newest 5.212 version. This one offers accelerated canvas, fixed css, new javascriptcore and webcore supporting more modern sites. I have already created test builds and integrated the Jolla/Mer patches so it can replace QtWebkit 5.6 directly: https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:leszek/qtwebkit5212-wHtml5Audio+Video Video (Jaymzz, 09:06:57)
    2. https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:leszek/qtwebkit5212-wHtml5Audio+Video (Jaymzz, 09:07:07)
    3. https://youtu.be/HfzcJNgi9wY (Jaymzz, 09:07:07)
    4. https://github.com/llelectronics/lls-qtwebkit (Jaymzz, 09:07:07)
    5. A merge request and a bug report will be created by leszek for qtwebkit 5.212 on git mer regarding this discussion (Jaymzz, 09:35:06)

  8. Possibility to use the Sailfish X license to install the proprietary bits of SFOS (exchange, dalvik, text prediction, etc.) on ported devices (Asked by c_la – 20 minutes) (Jaymzz, 09:35:32)
    1. it would be interesting to have the opportunity to purchase a license of Sailfish X to be able to install the proprietary bits of SFOS (exchange, dalvik, text prediction, etc.) on ported devices. This would increase the revenues for Jolla and would expand the number of smartphones where to get a full experience of SFOS thus expanding the potential user base. This topic has been inspired by the following TJC question: Can the (Jaymzz, 09:35:43)
    2. https://together.jolla.com/question/166400/can-the-sony-xperia-x-port-be-merged-with-the-fairphone-2-port/ (Jaymzz, 09:35:51)
    3. (from pketo) Once we have the Sailfish X program sorted out, we should have the enablers for providing the licensed bits to community ports too, so I would say that we will definetly consider this (Jaymzz, 09:41:32)

  9. General discussion (10 min) (Jaymzz, 09:47:16)
  10. Next meeting’s time and date (5 min) (Jaymzz, 09:58:15)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Wednesday, September 20th at 08:00 UTC (Jaymzz, 09:59:46)


Meeting ended at 10:00:51 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. Jaymzz (95)
  2. leszek (81)
  3. Mister_Magister (55)
  4. nh1402 (40)
  5. M4rtinK (39)
  6. Sugash (31)
  7. ApBBB (23)
  8. sledges (19)
  9. r0kk3rz (19)
  10. dcaliste (18)
  11. c_la (16)
  12. dr_gogeta86 (15)
  13. locusf (15)
  14. jenix (14)
  15. pketo (11)
  16. tbr (10)
  17. abranson_ (9)
  18. jpetrell (8)
  19. rinigus (8)
  20. Tofe (6)
  21. piggz_ (5)
  22. mal (4)
  23. rainemak (3)
  24. merbot (2)
  25. ced117 (2)
  26. taaem (2)
  27. stephg (2)
  28. jwalck (1)
  29. vk (1)
  30. kimmoli (1)
  31. objectifnul (1)
  32. ljo_ (1)
  33. eekkelund (1)
  34. nekron (1)
  35. piggz (1)


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